Guess Brandon hasn't heard of Wraithmarked, Merrick books. Over 10 per month. Just afraid Merrick/Wraithmarked will over saturated the market and crash special editions
I just hope book stores don’t die. Going to a book store for one specific book but getting stopped every step to check out other books that catch your eye will always be better than looking up that one specific book online, ordering it, than putting your device away. Theres something about being in a bookstore that is just awesome and peaceful and I hope new generations will get to experience that.
I'm hopeful. I have three preteen and teenage nieces and a nephew that are obsessed with Barnes and Noble. Seriously they get just excited when someone says let's go to B&N as I did as a kid when someone said let's go to the amusement park.
@@wingracer1614 That’s awesome! I didn’t really get into reading as a hobby until I was about 20-21 and I don’t know anyone besides my sister in law that reads for fun and I was the one who got her into it. I feel like a lot of people don’t understand how peaceful and fun bookstores are and I would’ve never known either if I didn’t get inspired to read “It” by Stephen king but once I went to Barnes and nobles to pick up a copy I ended up getting 5 other books as well and loved them all so I was immediately hooked after that first trip to B&N.
Every time I got to B&N, theirs a bunch of kids sitting in the manga section reading. If I bring my daughter, there are always little kids sitting and reading the book available or parents helping their kids pick out a book. I go not as often ( have to control myself ) but when I go I always see children, teens and people around my age 25+ I wouldn't be too worried.
I love that Brandon’s response to Daniel’s AI concerns are essentially: “Sure, AI isn’t great, but we humans suck bad enough that we will make things worse without the computers.”
@@aurthurpendragon1015 imagine believing in holywood film conspiracies lmfao How little can a person know about AI to base their opinion on an action movie this is hilarious.
@@aurthurpendragon1015I'm not saying that 2001 is a book on a booktuber account... :D Our luck is that the director of Dune's next project will be the other book of Arthur C. Clarke. Randevouz with Rama. Considered better than 2001. In addition... we develop AI here. So? It's just a software. Do you know how long it takes? Yo saw what happened this week. The CEO was removed, 500 developer stood up at Open AI, the Chat GPD almost broke. That. The AI at the moment is just a software. We run the CI/CD behind all type of them. If you just left it alone it brokes.
@@aurthurpendragon1015 My concern is less on AI taking over and more on the current, already happening, shit that is going on with it. Fortunately there is a lot of people fighting to make sure the technology isn't abused (any more).
I love how he said we are gonna get more Indian fantasy stuff. And as someone from India I can tell you we have a massive fantasy readership here and I have so many friends who are big cosmere fans.
Do you have any recommendations for Indian authors, specifically? I'll admit this isn't something I've ever thought of before, but if there's authors doing it I would like to check them out
@@samsthemankright now I don’t think any Indian author can stand equally to Brandon Sanderson, grrm or Patrick rothfuss or Stephen king. But many of us, me included are trying, so hopefully in the future…
@@samsthemank You could try Amish Tripathi's books. His Shiva Trilogy was quite popular in India. Personally, I wasn't a fan but I feel I am in the minority... Also, I feel I didn't give the books a chance.
Despite the structural problems in publishing, I sincerely believe that fantasy and sci-fi are on the verge of a golden age - there are so many incredible new voices coming in, especially ones from outside the west. Agree with Daniel!
On the verge of a golden age? Are you on drugs? Have you read the type of stuff thats being put out by publishers, that are scared to publish straight white guys, who write great books, in favour of minority diversity authors, who write nothing but woke hot garabge, which just turns readers away. Yes diversity is good. But the problem is when you are putting out bad books by diverse authors, over good books written by anyone who is not diverse in anyway, just because equality and equity BS. The publishing industry was always a meritocracy, it worked. It had a couple of gatekeeping issues sure, and that should not have been a thing. But meritocracy works. Its always worked and theres no need to for what isn't broken. Have you not seen the absolute state of Hollywood right now. Diversity hires creating woke garbage and the audience are walking away from Hollywood projects, because they are not hiring the best and brightest, regardless of what demographic the person belongs to. They cast people based on skin colour, gender and sexuality, and they don't have the talent, know how, and passion to create good stories. And theres the pushing of politics. Politics does not belong in stories. The purpose of a story is to entertain you. Not lecture you. Or tell you how to think. And the publishing industry has fallen in to that trap with all genres. And its not just straight white guys that write good stuff that are being demonized and ignored. Theres many poc authors and LGBTQ authors out there, that write amazing stuff and they get sidelined and ignored because they focus on telling a good story, as opposed to writing garbage that push ESG approved political BS. Thats why the industry is a mess and why so many bad books are being marketed so much. Colleen Hoover for example. Her books are terrible but they are only successful due to marketing and early manufactured success to cultivate a buzz around her that attracted the portion of readers who just read the popular thing or the popular writer and then clap like seals over bad writing. This golden age you speak of, is in the rearview mirror and getting smaller. And the next one wont be seen in our life time. Uncut your pearls and get real.
I seriously can’t comprehend how Brandon has room in his brain to think about all this stuff so deeply and yet still be so prolific in his writing/publishing… we are seriously so lucky to have him.
Not going to lie, I've wanted to be a published author since I was maybe seven years old. Over the years I only heard of progressively worse and worse prospects, to the point I just stopped writing. Only recently, in the wake of AI and industry saturation, did I ironically start again. Because holding even a draft of my book is still a reminder of unreasonable pursuit made towards a purpose.
Story of my life. Whenever I try to pursue a passion of mine all of a sudden new things happen that crush that dream to bits. Being a novelist during the rise of AI is just another stop on the dissaointment train.
The problem with AI isn't that people no longer seek the human touch, but the fact that people will have no opportunity to learn their trade. People don't start out great, but mediocrity during the improvement process pays the bills. Creating some art for the local Chinese restaurant's website is what will die. And yes the upper echelon will continue to sell, but once those people are gone that top layer will get thin really quickly.
Yup, thats the issue. Poeple will still want human created stuff, but no one will go for an inferior, cheaper option when they can get it for free. Only the highest quality from the most famous will sell.
@@Mramazing103 it's almost like the internet was a mistake. Allowing everyone a voice eventually meant nobody had a voice. Everyone's screaming so loudly nobody can hear a word that's said.
This has sort of been a problem that’s been getting progressively worse across all creative professions even before the advent of generative AI. The devaluation of art has been a hallmark of the corporate machine since the beginning. The rise of tech companies kicked that process into overdrive. And now with AI the greediest among us are seeing a potential opportunity to excise artists from the process entirely. I don’t think it’s going to work but they will most certainly try.
If what stops someone from learning how to write is ChatGPT existing than I don’t know if they would’ve stuck with it anyway. 5 star chefs are still plentiful despite the proliferation of fast and frozen foods. Masters still create oil paintings despite digital painting methods existing. Things being made easier doesn’t usually reduce quality at the highest levels they just increase the amount of people who can produce low quality work.
nah, thats a pessimistic viewpoint. Think outside the box how cars made so many new jobs compared to when we only had horses. On all ranges not only on top. Mechanics, builders, drivers, people who benefits from those drivers, supply chains. Etc 99% of you way of live is thanks to cars.
Funnily enough Sapkowski as much as I love his books (was fan before video games were invented) is total opposite of the person and I still remember his drunken ravings on certain con in early 2000s.
38:50 Frodo is all of 50 years old when he leaves the shire. He celebrates his 33 birthday together with Bilbo's 111th, and then spends another 17 years living in the Shire before the quest to destroy the Ring begins.
This was a great and thought provoking watch! It’s hard to watch the ‘value’ of the artist decline in almost every field. Having said that, it’s comforting to know us dedicated fans will help support the authors we love no matter the changes in the publishing industry.
My favourite BookTuber who got me into reading as a hobby as a 32 year old, sitting down chatting with my favourite author (also because of the Goblin himself) for 41 minutes. Today has taken a lovely turn.
I notice the people who don't worry about AI are already established in the industries. They have done their graft, have a name in their respective industry and are simply financially secure. They have already worked their way up, so its just not such a threat to them. Its people starting the 'graft' that will be hit hardest by AI and it's frustrating to see how relaxed industry leaders are on the whole AI debate.
This is a good point. I think though that the world will evolve and everything will be okay. Brandons point is that the world is always changing and humans always adapt. Change can be good for some and bad for others but as a whole we always make it work.
It's so weird to see Brandon just...chilling. He is always double tapping the work by signing or doing something else. It's nice to see him just relax and have a chat.
I have a Masters degree and I honestly relate to this comment. Sometimes I think the same thing about myself, like I mentally pause and say, "Damn. Doesn't matter that I got educated, I still sound like the poor Texan that I am." Lmao
He is typing already in his inner voice connected to Amazon chip in his brain directly to his editor while telepathically creating a merch deal with Spainish toy company
This is a fantastic discussion. I was lucky enough to sit in on one like it when I volunteered to help with a private signing Brandon did here in Houston last year. He and the store owner/manager talked shop for 3 hours straight. Hearing his concerns for the industry, and especially the negative impact on the smaller voices, was really eye opening for me. Brandon has continually earned my respect more and more, which is impressive since I've been following him since 2007.
Super hate the take that it's a good thing for AI to replace editors but not writers or artists--editors are creative, highly skilled, passionate people who got into this because we love books, stories, and authors. Our work is challenging, valuable, skill-based, the vast majority of us are grossly underpaid by the same publishing companies that grossly underpay you guys, and it's not any more acceptable for AI to replace us than it is for it to replace writers or artists.
Well said. Art is a human thing. And only a human thing. We dont need tech or software for art. Accept stuff like word processing software and such of course.
If we replace editors for anything but the grammatical/paragraph level, I think there's no way the work will come out the same way. I think of the stories Lloyd Alexander told about his editor saying stuff like, "There's a whole book missing here!" Or "Why don't you start with a kid who wants to make a sword?" AI might get that kind of thing right at times, but I can hardly believe it would always have the same feedback as a human. I guess that could be good, but it also has the potential to be very very bad.
I use Audible because I’m a truck driver and it’s great to listen to a great story while I’m driving, but I’m going to start buying the physical copies as well.
As a pizza and now oxygen driver I got into the same habit. Hell, I still listen to a profound amount of audiobooks at work and throughout my day. However, I recently started making time again to actually read physical books, on occasion. You should try, if you can. It’s a totally different experience and I find that it helps me remember a lot of the smaller details.
@@TheDiabeticGameMaster physical is cool and I get it for things sometimes. Ebooks though on e ink does the same thing as physical for me though. But I definitely agree that there's a big difference from when I read something versus when I listen to it. As a writer myself it also helps me use words more accurately and grow a bigger vocabulary as compared to one I just listened to them. When I listen to them all I get is better scenario ideas and flow not really individual word usage
audible will remove books from your library from time to time, when licensing changes; a book may be rereleased with a new id number, or simply no longer be available, and therefore removed from the platform. Luckily, you can download the books in your library, and keep them in your own backups for listening to later, whether or not you have an audible subscription.
Thank you both for this thought provoking conversation. I also truly appreciate the advice to other writers as someone in technology that writes as well. Because of being in tech I do go to some great conventions where near future advances fuel the imagination. I recently heard a fantastic talk about the past and future of AI by Rahul Razan (from FL Poly Tech U). He discussed how ai has had 3 winters thus far, and the sheer expense of creating and maintaining these databases will be the real impediment to the next breakthroughs. He also said humans have been leery of tech advances stealing jobs since the wheel was invented - but the true uses of tools are revealed by the artists among us. I also heard a talk about flying cars truly becoming a reality with the merging of drone tech and co-piloting tech. Insane advances - get ready my friends.
Amazon demanding the rights for author works like that would likely bring the Justice Department down on them for antitrust. A major power move like that is a big risk for the company, they could probably do it if they took small bites over long time.
This is an intelligent conversation between a veteran and newcomer into the publishing industry. I wish more videos were this insightful and entertaining as this one. Also Mr. Sanderson is rocking that beard.
Speaking as someone who works for Amazon (AWS) in AI/ML: Brandon is 100% correct about Amazon’s divisions having very little coordination, the only connective tissue is basically HR. In terms of AI development, it absolutely is not going the way of NFTs. The better the models get, the better-trained and more fluent and flexible the next generation of models is. There are some blockers in place, but each time a new piece of the puzzle clicks into place, AI models (including language models) jump forward and serve as the basis for future jumps. The biggest thing slowing AI right now is the need for humans to validate their data, because they aren’t terribly accurate without a ton of human checking and training. The less they need human validation, the faster they will develop.
Yep, the real animals were the big deal in Do Androids Dream with Electric Sheep? It’s a book about empathy. Hard to compare with the movie. It’s cool that Brandon reads this many sci-fi novels. Three-Body Problem… it’s a sign to his fans. 👀Now Merphy is enlisted too.
The last point Daniel made is exactly why I want to see Stormlight animated. A live action Stormlight would be cool, but I feel like animation would be the best way to give the action the energy I see in my head.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Animation is great don't get me wrong. And ot does work well for the fantasy genre, but it doesn't work for every fantasy story, and it doesn't need to be every fantasy story adaptation or original. Plus animated stuff is being done too much now. It used to be that an animated fantasy was generally good when one came long. Unless it came from Japan. Japan have always been able to hit it out of the park. But as i said the market has been flooded. Animation is done too much and it needs to slow down, cause too much of a good thing is bad for you. Look at the superhero craze. Marvel and DC were the top of the movie buisness for a long time, but over saturation (among pushing political BS, and casting people who can't tell stories based on what diversity boxes they tick) the market is over saturated with animation right now. Game of thrones (pre seasons 7 and 8) and House of the Dragon reaffirmed what Peter Jackson did with the lord of the rings Trilogy. Fantasy works best in live action. Also the idea that animation can only bring the fight energy required to make a Stormlight adaptation good which is what you implied, is utter preposterous. Either admit that you don't actually know, or come up with a better arguement. Stop hiding behind the shield of "In My Opinion" either stand by what you say with facts, or dont say anything.
@@thedeadd.c.207 Well… given the “fact” that what I said WAS my opinion, I find the demand to prove it with fact to be dumb as shit. Especially since that demand was preceded by, gasp, a litany of opinions. Most are commonly held and accepted opinions, but those aren’t what facts look like. Dumb strike two. But idk, that’s just my opinion… ;-*
@@thedeadd.c.207 Though, I’ll give it a shot. Utter(ly) preposterous, you say? How do you think they’d do it in a live action? I’d assume the same way that GoT made dragons and LotR had massive battles. With CGI. Which is animation. Look at that! I used some facts. Are you proud of me? Facts are fun! I should use them more often. They are SUPER useful. Thank you. Sincerely.
One of the things Brandon said about Indian fantasy I think is very slowly starting to have aspects involved. The one I think of right off the top is The Saga of The Forgotten Warrior by Larry Correia, in which he has said there is a lot of Indian mythology inspiration involved. Not quite direct Indian fantasy authors, but i feel we are definitely going to start seeing more.
What concerns me with AI is the interim. I think Brandon is right that eventually people will value human work. But there will be a period leading up to that time of companies using AI until people get sick of it and start demanding real human made art/writing etc.. Who can say how long that takes and how many livelyhoods are ruined..
I feel like Ryan Cahill is on the path to being the Sanderson of the indie publishing scene. Instant success with almost every book he releases, selling out constantly of his TBB editions, major glowing reviews for his books, etc. If nothing drastic happens, I think his name will be up there with some of the greats within the next couple years.
Both of your number 2's hit home for me. I'm not an indie book writer but I am an independent artist, and this is a huge problem for me right now in growing my small art business. I can see how the oversaturation of that market in the last few years really prevents me and other small artists from getting noticed (and not because our art sucks, because it doesn't). It makes we regret not launching my art business before covid.
Fascinating conversation - two people very clicked on and very knowledgeable in their area of passion. On that end point of versions of characters in books - I did have a friend who refused to watch the LotR movie because she had her own personal version of the whole series and wasn't interested in mucking that up.
Great conversation and well shot too 👏 it’s so conflicting existing in a world where I would love to support artists, filmmakers and authors as well as possible but bigger companies make it a poor financial decision to do so. I try and live to my values and buy books from book shops new, or buy films if I really enjoy them but it’s music I struggle with as the streaming services are just so good.
Hey Daniel, I'd like to thank you for talking about AI not just as an author but also acknowledging the visual arts as well. I'm an artist myself and the past 18 months or so has been a very grim state of existential dread. I think something that's important to acknowledge, that I don't think you mentioned, is how the current data sets for this technology is built on stolen or laundered data - maybe it just goes without saying at this point. I agree that the possibilities for AI are very exciting, and I can imagine it being used in ways that could help industries that are struggling or overburdened (for example the medical industry). Unfortunately when it comes to creative industries, the current goal seems to be solely to replace workers by using their own work as training data. I understand you aren't a visual arts channel, so I don't expect you to talk at length about these topics, but I feel like all creatives are under the same threat currently and our best bet at a positive outcome is supporting one another. You summed it up perfectly at 15:47, we could go into lengthy discussions about fair use laws but I think all of us instinctively know that there's just something deeply wrong about big companies peddling AI generated work to the masses at the expense of an entire industry of creatives. That's something I hope we regulate across the board, in the visual arts, in publishing, in music, in every industry. There should be protections put in place on the commercial/for-profit uses of AI, at the very least the data sets should have to be gathered ethically. Unfortunately it seems like visual artists are at the bottom of the totem pole right now as I've seen both musicians and authors using image generators to create artwork for their books/albums. Image generators are the hot thing right now, but when someone can push a button and make an entire album, or a novel - I think the creatives who used those image generators are going to see their misjudgement all too late. This is why I think it's really important for creatives as a whole to stand together and support each other on this issue, not just their own industries if and when they come under threat.
I thought about using AI art but after I found out what it is doing is compiling pieces of other art to build the image I felt that was a bit off for me. There is a difference between being influenced by something so you take after that style and ripping it. I still have to find an artist that would not mind doing a picture for me for my book but unfortunately im also very broke. So I understand the temptation of *free art.
As a new author releasing my first book coming soon, this was really insightful. Thanks for setting this up, Daniel, and thanks to Brandon as always for being a force of clarity in the world of sci-fi/fantasy!
I agree that we don't know exactly what will be the end long term result of all this AI stuff. But as an artist, and even just as a guy who likes consuming other people's art, mainly little comics, tv shows, movies, and ocasionally books.... I'M SO GODDAMM SCARED OF HOW THIS COULD POTENTIALLY SCREW UP THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MEDIA THAT I LOVE!
I will NEVER give up reading physical books. I need to pack books I've read onto my shelves. As soon as I think about reading on a Kindle, I loose all interest.
I fuck with that energy, Brandon is such a sweetheart but he is also really fucking successful. Fuck yeah you’re one of just a handful that can’t be commercially ruined by them.
In Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep robot animals were always secret, because real animals were an expensive status symbol, so it was embarrassing to be found owning robot animals. If robot animals were cheap in Blade Runner (I've not seen it) it was one of the few things Scott didn't change.
I think Brandon's point about keeping premium rights is a great idea. I personally mostly read through digital means right now, but I will buy premium editions of books I love for my bookshelf. I value owning fewer nicer things (physically), so I will spend more money on a premium edition that will look beautiful on my shelf for years to come instead of cheaper paperback or hardback versions.
That "good word of mouth" will only remain a reality with people like you Daniel. Indie authors are going to need people like you more than ever, and I can see how much of a challenge that is going to be. Not saying you should do more. Because you're doing plenty. And it's amazing. I just hope there would be more people to talk about all these great books within the indie space.
I love Brandon so much, been with him since Memory of Light, have met him twice in Houston (Murder by the Book) and he is my favorite author, so I say this with love. His weight worries me. I hope he's taking care of himself. Main reason is of course is because he's a beautiful person and I want most people to be healthy but also he has so many more stories to tell. He's a global treasurer. I really hope he takes care of himself for himself and his family first, but for the world also. His work is incredibly important for the shaping of future writers and artists and content creators.
The Witcher books took an age to translate, started reading them 14 years ago and got my hands on first 2-3 no problem, then spent several years wait on ever moving release dates for the next one (my wife, then GF, at the time apologised to me several times she was not able to get it for birthday/xmas/anniversaries constantly)
39:45 I’m pushing 40. As my generation ages up and the youth of today hit the target market, I feel the general look at animated adaptations will shift positively across all age demos
Talking about different mediums being used to drag people to read your books is a great point. A near 30 minute video about the ecology of Roshar got me to read the Way of Kings and nearly all of Brandon Sandersons other books. A good medium for this could be videos like that or short, minute or 2, animated videos that act as trailers for the book/s
Brandon got the Blade Runner reference slightly wrong! In both the book and the movie, Real animals are the more expensive option! What happened was that in the movie, not even the Tyrells had a real owl, while in the book, after doing a job Deckard is able to afford a real goat. For the movie, when Deckard asks if the owl is real or not, the original script said "Of course it is", but it was later changed to the opposite.
What Amazon chooses to do about AI is what will happen with it. Right now AI books are not banned from Amazon and not even required to be labelled and it will create an infinite ocean.
I love hearing these philosophical videos. It’s really getting me thinking, and I’m glad because it gives me good wisdom for when I go to publish my books in the future
5:35 Firstly, I loved to hear this topic being addressed, congratulations on the video! About non-American (Or European) authors, as a Brazilian, I know several great fantasy writers here but none of them got translated, in part because it's too expensive, in part due to the fact that the "Brazilian cultural elite" still looks down on fantasy and also because it's hard to find support from the people as a whole. Any tips for those who want to publish abroad but don't have enough money or let's say "prospection"? Again, great video and by the way, Sanderson's Word of Radiance just arrived in Brazil and it's already a hit. Cheers!
I use the programs inAudible and OpenAudible to download and convert digital copies of my audible books into any audio format I want and keep them as digital backups on my computers external hard-drive.. I know thats legal in the EU..
The idea that Amazon is crushing indie authors is an interesting idea in that it's certainly true but also weird they were the ones who created the environment the indie boom to begin with. What was the window of time where the indie publishing industry was actually healthy? Like 2014-2019?
Daniel, in regards to your prediction of genres starting to dissolve - It would be great for you to dive into the genres of Science-Fantasy that I think marked one of the early high water marks in genre fiction in the late 70's and 80's. The Book of the New Sun by Wolfe and Jack Vance's Dying Earth series were some of the most dominant series of their time while being firmly in-between genres. I think a deep dive into genre history and the taxonomic choices that were made and the (surprising) wealth of variety that existed in decades past would be really interesting as a series
I think the animation older gen is already here. I'm 51 and watch a lot of animation, as do many GenXers I know. Animation should a great option if done right for adapting books. I would love to see the guys that did Arcane or Blue Eye Samurai do a BrandoSando book series.
Completely agree with the points made. Just launching my own first novel, a pirate fantasy adventure, with Shakespearian themes - On Seas of Reapers. Did not know where to begin with marketing, and initially forgot about traditional media (radio, news, newspapers) but was fantastic to speak to people in person about it, have had great feedback with the copies (20 or so) that I did signed for reviewers with tea and chocolate coins in the box I sent out as well.
@@jalahjava_ Thanks so much! Based in UK , book is out next week on Dec 1st. There's treasure. Magic. Blood, and adventure. Synopsis: In a sea far to the west, a pale moon straddles a darkening ocean. When a mysterious girl washes upon a storm-stricken island, searching for a way to help rescue her best friend, she will find that there is more than sand and seawater awaiting her. She thought this was going to be easy! A quick in and out - the only trouble is: the island is controlled by pirates; and they are desperate to locate an ancient treasure. With the help of new-found friends, the girl is thrust into a deadly race for a magical artefact, one that is only thought to exist in long, lost tales. Can they find the treasure before the dreaded pirate captain, Atlas Vain, does and stop his plan to destroy the entire island, leaving no trace he was ever there! All this must be done before her ill-fated friend meets the executioner's block, which is only mere days away...
DG is growing up before our eyes. Watching him go off the reservation once in a while and now he really gets it. He's all no fear now. The boy has become a man!
I make it a matter of principle, and I see it as a point of pride to always buy and own a physical copy of the book I am listening to or reading, even if it is an e-book. It's always felt like the right thing to do. And I do stand by the words of Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A room without books is like a body without a soul."
Be sure to check out danielbgreene.com/ before the merch is gone!
Guess Brandon hasn't heard of Wraithmarked, Merrick books. Over 10 per month. Just afraid Merrick/Wraithmarked will over saturated the market and crash special editions
Brandon looks great in a beard
He really does!
It's a very writer-like beard
For real! It’s a shame that BYU makes him shave it so often
Came here to say the same
Wholeheartedly agree. I love the beard.
I just hope book stores don’t die. Going to a book store for one specific book but getting stopped every step to check out other books that catch your eye will always be better than looking up that one specific book online, ordering it, than putting your device away. Theres something about being in a bookstore that is just awesome and peaceful and I hope new generations will get to experience that.
I'm hopeful. I have three preteen and teenage nieces and a nephew that are obsessed with Barnes and Noble. Seriously they get just excited when someone says let's go to B&N as I did as a kid when someone said let's go to the amusement park.
@@wingracer1614 That’s awesome! I didn’t really get into reading as a hobby until I was about 20-21 and I don’t know anyone besides my sister in law that reads for fun and I was the one who got her into it. I feel like a lot of people don’t understand how peaceful and fun bookstores are and I would’ve never known either if I didn’t get inspired to read “It” by Stephen king but once I went to Barnes and nobles to pick up a copy I ended up getting 5 other books as well and loved them all so I was immediately hooked after that first trip to B&N.
At least we still have libraries...... I hope
Every time I got to B&N, theirs a bunch of kids sitting in the manga section reading. If I bring my daughter, there are always little kids sitting and reading the book available or parents helping their kids pick out a book.
I go not as often ( have to control myself ) but when I go I always see children, teens and people around my age 25+
I wouldn't be too worried.
@@cora5864 Manga has absolutely saved B&N. Hopefully they grow up to be novel readers
Of all the things you guys could've talked about Im SO glad you decided to talk publishing - you both had some great insights
Of all the things you could do, I'm so glad you started carrying things, we need more men like you.
He never misses!
Some people are born to carry things, and some people are born to be a man, but this man decided to be both. Truly remarkable and inspirational
@@costelinha1867 Not things, thing. He carries one thing, and the ultimate question is WHAT IS THIS MAN CARRYING?!?!
Brandon's beard makes him look like a writer. It's a real writer-beard.
Grimdark Brandon
I love that Brandon’s response to Daniel’s AI concerns are essentially: “Sure, AI isn’t great, but we humans suck bad enough that we will make things worse without the computers.”
The reason I'm scared of AI is because I've seen Terminator and 2001 A Space Odyssey. Those movies were cautionary tales, and we're ignoring them.
@@aurthurpendragon1015Spielberg, Kubrick, and Cameron, 3 of the greatest directors in American film history, gave us masterful cautionary tales on AI
@@aurthurpendragon1015 imagine believing in holywood film conspiracies lmfao
How little can a person know about AI to base their opinion on an action movie this is hilarious.
@@aurthurpendragon1015I'm not saying that 2001 is a book on a booktuber account... :D Our luck is that the director of Dune's next project will be the other book of Arthur C. Clarke. Randevouz with Rama. Considered better than 2001. In addition... we develop AI here. So? It's just a software. Do you know how long it takes? Yo saw what happened this week. The CEO was removed, 500 developer stood up at Open AI, the Chat GPD almost broke. That. The AI at the moment is just a software. We run the CI/CD behind all type of them. If you just left it alone it brokes.
@@aurthurpendragon1015 My concern is less on AI taking over and more on the current, already happening, shit that is going on with it. Fortunately there is a lot of people fighting to make sure the technology isn't abused (any more).
This video is just Brandon brainstorming for his next dystopian cosmere world!
According to other videos he likely wrote it while sitting there. That back hand is off screen too much
He already wrote the whole series and now it’s seeding foreshadowing (I am joking obviously).
@@Desvelar If it was any other writer I wouldnt even think of it being true but it is Brandon Sanders we are talking about so it is a high possibility
I love how he said we are gonna get more Indian fantasy stuff. And as someone from India I can tell you we have a massive fantasy readership here and I have so many friends who are big cosmere fans.
Do you have any recommendations for Indian authors, specifically? I'll admit this isn't something I've ever thought of before, but if there's authors doing it I would like to check them out
I agree I love to see more ideas coming out from other voices.
@@samsthemankright now I don’t think any Indian author can stand equally to Brandon Sanderson, grrm or Patrick rothfuss or Stephen king. But many of us, me included are trying, so hopefully in the future…
@@samsthemank You could try Amish Tripathi's books. His Shiva Trilogy was quite popular in India. Personally, I wasn't a fan but I feel I am in the minority... Also, I feel I didn't give the books a chance.
I would caution against Amish. Personally I think he's an embarrassment to Indian literary scene.
Despite the structural problems in publishing, I sincerely believe that fantasy and sci-fi are on the verge of a golden age - there are so many incredible new voices coming in, especially ones from outside the west. Agree with Daniel!
On the verge of a golden age? Are you on drugs? Have you read the type of stuff thats being put out by publishers, that are scared to publish straight white guys, who write great books, in favour of minority diversity authors, who write nothing but woke hot garabge, which just turns readers away. Yes diversity is good. But the problem is when you are putting out bad books by diverse authors, over good books written by anyone who is not diverse in anyway, just because equality and equity BS. The publishing industry was always a meritocracy, it worked. It had a couple of gatekeeping issues sure, and that should not have been a thing. But meritocracy works. Its always worked and theres no need to for what isn't broken. Have you not seen the absolute state of Hollywood right now. Diversity hires creating woke garbage and the audience are walking away from Hollywood projects, because they are not hiring the best and brightest, regardless of what demographic the person belongs to. They cast people based on skin colour, gender and sexuality, and they don't have the talent, know how, and passion to create good stories. And theres the pushing of politics. Politics does not belong in stories. The purpose of a story is to entertain you. Not lecture you. Or tell you how to think. And the publishing industry has fallen in to that trap with all genres. And its not just straight white guys that write good stuff that are being demonized and ignored. Theres many poc authors and LGBTQ authors out there, that write amazing stuff and they get sidelined and ignored because they focus on telling a good story, as opposed to writing garbage that push ESG approved political BS.
Thats why the industry is a mess and why so many bad books are being marketed so much. Colleen Hoover for example. Her books are terrible but they are only successful due to marketing and early manufactured success to cultivate a buzz around her that attracted the portion of readers who just read the popular thing or the popular writer and then clap like seals over bad writing.
This golden age you speak of, is in the rearview mirror and getting smaller. And the next one wont be seen in our life time.
Uncut your pearls and get real.
I seriously can’t comprehend how Brandon has room in his brain to think about all this stuff so deeply and yet still be so prolific in his writing/publishing… we are seriously so lucky to have him.
I would happily listen to a six hour version of this conversation
Not going to lie, I've wanted to be a published author since I was maybe seven years old. Over the years I only heard of progressively worse and worse prospects, to the point I just stopped writing.
Only recently, in the wake of AI and industry saturation, did I ironically start again. Because holding even a draft of my book is still a reminder of unreasonable pursuit made towards a purpose.
Best of luck!
This is the way.
I too have the same dream. Hope you keep at it, and fulfill your dream man. I doubt myself every step of the way.
Dude, you only completely fail if you stop writing. So keep writing. You can only win the lottery if you actually buy a ticket.
Story of my life. Whenever I try to pursue a passion of mine all of a sudden new things happen that crush that dream to bits. Being a novelist during the rise of AI is just another stop on the dissaointment train.
The problem with AI isn't that people no longer seek the human touch, but the fact that people will have no opportunity to learn their trade. People don't start out great, but mediocrity during the improvement process pays the bills. Creating some art for the local Chinese restaurant's website is what will die. And yes the upper echelon will continue to sell, but once those people are gone that top layer will get thin really quickly.
Yup, thats the issue. Poeple will still want human created stuff, but no one will go for an inferior, cheaper option when they can get it for free. Only the highest quality from the most famous will sell.
@@Mramazing103 it's almost like the internet was a mistake. Allowing everyone a voice eventually meant nobody had a voice. Everyone's screaming so loudly nobody can hear a word that's said.
This has sort of been a problem that’s been getting progressively worse across all creative professions even before the advent of generative AI. The devaluation of art has been a hallmark of the corporate machine since the beginning. The rise of tech companies kicked that process into overdrive. And now with AI the greediest among us are seeing a potential opportunity to excise artists from the process entirely. I don’t think it’s going to work but they will most certainly try.
If what stops someone from learning how to write is ChatGPT existing than I don’t know if they would’ve stuck with it anyway.
5 star chefs are still plentiful despite the proliferation of fast and frozen foods. Masters still create oil paintings despite digital painting methods existing. Things being made easier doesn’t usually reduce quality at the highest levels they just increase the amount of people who can produce low quality work.
nah, thats a pessimistic viewpoint. Think outside the box how cars made so many new jobs compared to when we only had horses. On all ranges not only on top. Mechanics, builders, drivers, people who benefits from those drivers, supply chains. Etc 99% of you way of live is thanks to cars.
Sanderson said Sapkowski’s name correctly!! As a Polish person I respect him even more now
Name dropping 3 body problem as well. Much respect.
Funnily enough Sapkowski as much as I love his books (was fan before video games were invented) is total opposite of the person and I still remember his drunken ravings on certain con in early 2000s.
oh yeah, he is a human garbage @@Morfeusm
Got a timestamp?
38:50 Frodo is all of 50 years old when he leaves the shire. He celebrates his 33 birthday together with Bilbo's 111th, and then spends another 17 years living in the Shire before the quest to destroy the Ring begins.
Two well dressed gentlemen talking books. I’m in
I prefer gentlegoblin but thank you ❤
Sorry gentlegoblin❤😅
Cannot get enough of those calves...
This was a great and thought provoking watch!
It’s hard to watch the ‘value’ of the artist decline in almost every field. Having said that, it’s comforting to know us dedicated fans will help support the authors we love no matter the changes in the publishing industry.
This was a a massively enjoyable conversation. Thank you Brandon and Daniel. ❤
My favourite BookTuber who got me into reading as a hobby as a 32 year old, sitting down chatting with my favourite author (also because of the Goblin himself) for 41 minutes. Today has taken a lovely turn.
I notice the people who don't worry about AI are already established in the industries. They have done their graft, have a name in their respective industry and are simply financially secure. They have already worked their way up, so its just not such a threat to them. Its people starting the 'graft' that will be hit hardest by AI and it's frustrating to see how relaxed industry leaders are on the whole AI debate.
They will when they realise that they will have to learn how to use the AI to stay in the industry.
In fact, any industry you can think of.
This is a good point. I think though that the world will evolve and everything will be okay. Brandons point is that the world is always changing and humans always adapt. Change can be good for some and bad for others but as a whole we always make it work.
It's so weird to see Brandon just...chilling. He is always double tapping the work by signing or doing something else. It's nice to see him just relax and have a chat.
It's always humorous to me how much Brandon, one of the most successful authors of our time, says "stuff and things."
I have a Masters degree and I honestly relate to this comment. Sometimes I think the same thing about myself, like I mentally pause and say, "Damn. Doesn't matter that I got educated, I still sound like the poor Texan that I am." Lmao
Kinda love how involved Brandon gets with his fans. I swear this is like the tenth book tuber I have seen him with
I hope you receive the dedication for the book Brandon mentally composed during your conversation; I’m assuming he created at least two.
He is typing already in his inner voice connected to Amazon chip in his brain directly to his editor while telepathically creating a merch deal with Spainish toy company
This is a fantastic discussion. I was lucky enough to sit in on one like it when I volunteered to help with a private signing Brandon did here in Houston last year. He and the store owner/manager talked shop for 3 hours straight. Hearing his concerns for the industry, and especially the negative impact on the smaller voices, was really eye opening for me. Brandon has continually earned my respect more and more, which is impressive since I've been following him since 2007.
Super hate the take that it's a good thing for AI to replace editors but not writers or artists--editors are creative, highly skilled, passionate people who got into this because we love books, stories, and authors. Our work is challenging, valuable, skill-based, the vast majority of us are grossly underpaid by the same publishing companies that grossly underpay you guys, and it's not any more acceptable for AI to replace us than it is for it to replace writers or artists.
Well said. Art is a human thing. And only a human thing. We dont need tech or software for art. Accept stuff like word processing software and such of course.
If we replace editors for anything but the grammatical/paragraph level, I think there's no way the work will come out the same way. I think of the stories Lloyd Alexander told about his editor saying stuff like, "There's a whole book missing here!" Or "Why don't you start with a kid who wants to make a sword?" AI might get that kind of thing right at times, but I can hardly believe it would always have the same feedback as a human. I guess that could be good, but it also has the potential to be very very bad.
I use Audible because I’m a truck driver and it’s great to listen to a great story while I’m driving, but I’m going to start buying the physical copies as well.
Prepare to buy book shelves 😂 I have many
As a pizza and now oxygen driver I got into the same habit. Hell, I still listen to a profound amount of audiobooks at work and throughout my day. However, I recently started making time again to actually read physical books, on occasion. You should try, if you can. It’s a totally different experience and I find that it helps me remember a lot of the smaller details.
@@TheDiabeticGameMaster physical is cool and I get it for things sometimes. Ebooks though on e ink does the same thing as physical for me though. But I definitely agree that there's a big difference from when I read something versus when I listen to it. As a writer myself it also helps me use words more accurately and grow a bigger vocabulary as compared to one I just listened to them. When I listen to them all I get is better scenario ideas and flow not really individual word usage
I've started reading a lot more with audiobooks, but I'm always happy to buy an audiobook trophy for the shelf!
audible will remove books from your library from time to time, when licensing changes; a book may be rereleased with a new id number, or simply no longer be available, and therefore removed from the platform. Luckily, you can download the books in your library, and keep them in your own backups for listening to later, whether or not you have an audible subscription.
A truly wonderful conversation between 2 dudes that know a hell of a lot and have a damn good time talking about it. LOVED this.
Thank you both for this thought provoking conversation. I also truly appreciate the advice to other writers as someone in technology that writes as well.
Because of being in tech I do go to some great conventions where near future advances fuel the imagination.
I recently heard a fantastic talk about the past and future of AI by Rahul Razan (from FL Poly Tech U). He discussed how ai has had 3 winters thus far, and the sheer expense of creating and maintaining these databases will be the real impediment to the next breakthroughs. He also said humans have been leery of tech advances stealing jobs since the wheel was invented - but the true uses of tools are revealed by the artists among us.
I also heard a talk about flying cars truly becoming a reality with the merging of drone tech and co-piloting tech. Insane advances - get ready my friends.
Dude, I'm just generally hyped that you get to hang out with people like Brandon Sanderson. Great video as always, of course.
It's Sanderson, but with socks and shoes this time
Can't wait until my books are finished and I need to worry about this stuff.
Thanks for the great discussion!
This was a fantastic chat. Very organically flowing from both of you. I hope we get more.❤
Loved this conversation as much as it made me nervous. The more you know, the better you can prepare. Thanks Daniel and Brandon!
Here’s some time stamps for those who are short on time and/or want to skip to a certain part:
0:05 - 1:37 Intro
1:40 - 4:29 Brandon’s No.5 D&G prediction (Subscription Services)
4:30 - 7:19 Daniel’s No.5 prediction (Getting More Voices)
7:20 - 12:39 Brandon’s No.4 D&G prediction (IP Grabs)
12:40 - 19:13 Daniel’s No.4 prediction (AI Turbulence)
19:14 - 22:13 Brandon’s No.3 D&G prediction (Decreased Royalties)
22:15 - 27:00 Daniel’s No.3 prediction (Genres Melting Away)
27:01 - 29:51 Brandon’s No.2 D&G prediction (Difficulty Launching As New Voice)
29:52 - 32:45 Daniel’s No.2 prediction (Unsustainable Marketing)
32:49 - 37:23 Brandon’s No.1 D&G prediction (Industry Will Not Change Unless Forced To)
37:25 - 40:21 Daniel’s No.1 prediction (Rise In Adaptations)
40:22 - 41:02 Outro
Replying to bump this up higher in the feed.
This is part of the problem. Just watch the content, people. It’s impossible to glean the whole message when you create your own sound bite.
Amazon demanding the rights for author works like that would likely bring the Justice Department down on them for antitrust. A major power move like that is a big risk for the company, they could probably do it if they took small bites over long time.
Hopefully that is what would happen... hopefully
With what we have seen in recent years nothing would surprise me
This is an intelligent conversation between a veteran and newcomer into the publishing industry. I wish more videos were this insightful and entertaining as this one. Also Mr. Sanderson is rocking that beard.
Speaking as someone who works for Amazon (AWS) in AI/ML: Brandon is 100% correct about Amazon’s divisions having very little coordination, the only connective tissue is basically HR. In terms of AI development, it absolutely is not going the way of NFTs. The better the models get, the better-trained and more fluent and flexible the next generation of models is. There are some blockers in place, but each time a new piece of the puzzle clicks into place, AI models (including language models) jump forward and serve as the basis for future jumps. The biggest thing slowing AI right now is the need for humans to validate their data, because they aren’t terribly accurate without a ton of human checking and training. The less they need human validation, the faster they will develop.
Yep, the real animals were the big deal in Do Androids Dream with Electric Sheep? It’s a book about empathy. Hard to compare with the movie. It’s cool that Brandon reads this many sci-fi novels. Three-Body Problem… it’s a sign to his fans. 👀Now Merphy is enlisted too.
It's really fun to listen to Brandon explain why monopolies are bad
The last point Daniel made is exactly why I want to see Stormlight animated. A live action Stormlight would be cool, but I feel like animation would be the best way to give the action the energy I see in my head.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Animation is great don't get me wrong. And ot does work well for the fantasy genre, but it doesn't work for every fantasy story, and it doesn't need to be every fantasy story adaptation or original. Plus animated stuff is being done too much now. It used to be that an animated fantasy was generally good when one came long. Unless it came from Japan. Japan have always been able to hit it out of the park. But as i said the market has been flooded. Animation is done too much and it needs to slow down, cause too much of a good thing is bad for you. Look at the superhero craze. Marvel and DC were the top of the movie buisness for a long time, but over saturation (among pushing political BS, and casting people who can't tell stories based on what diversity boxes they tick) the market is over saturated with animation right now. Game of thrones (pre seasons 7 and 8) and House of the Dragon reaffirmed what Peter Jackson did with the lord of the rings Trilogy. Fantasy works best in live action.
Also the idea that animation can only bring the fight energy required to make a Stormlight adaptation good which is what you implied, is utter preposterous. Either admit that you don't actually know, or come up with a better arguement. Stop hiding behind the shield of "In My Opinion" either stand by what you say with facts, or dont say anything.
@@thedeadd.c.207 Well… given the “fact” that what I said WAS my opinion, I find the demand to prove it with fact to be dumb as shit. Especially since that demand was preceded by, gasp, a litany of opinions. Most are commonly held and accepted opinions, but those aren’t what facts look like. Dumb strike two.
But idk, that’s just my opinion… ;-*
@@thedeadd.c.207 Though, I’ll give it a shot.
Utter(ly) preposterous, you say? How do you think they’d do it in a live action? I’d assume the same way that GoT made dragons and LotR had massive battles. With CGI. Which is animation. Look at that! I used some facts. Are you proud of me? Facts are fun! I should use them more often. They are SUPER useful. Thank you. Sincerely.
Brings a tear to my eye to see how far your channel has gone since I started reading the wheel of time and watching your videos 5/6 years ago
One of the things Brandon said about Indian fantasy I think is very slowly starting to have aspects involved. The one I think of right off the top is The Saga of The Forgotten Warrior by Larry Correia, in which he has said there is a lot of Indian mythology inspiration involved. Not quite direct Indian fantasy authors, but i feel we are definitely going to start seeing more.
What concerns me with AI is the interim. I think Brandon is right that eventually people will value human work. But there will be a period leading up to that time of companies using AI until people get sick of it and start demanding real human made art/writing etc..
Who can say how long that takes and how many livelyhoods are ruined..
I feel like Ryan Cahill is on the path to being the Sanderson of the indie publishing scene. Instant success with almost every book he releases, selling out constantly of his TBB editions, major glowing reviews for his books, etc. If nothing drastic happens, I think his name will be up there with some of the greats within the next couple years.
Cahill is a marketing master. What he’s done in the last 3 years is incredible.
Which is good. The more authors that can pump out books that are full of quality work is what we need.
He's got a progress bar like Sanderson... I'll have to check out his books.
Really nice of Brandon to let Daniel on his youtube channel like this, hope we get to see more of him in the future!
Both of your number 2's hit home for me. I'm not an indie book writer but I am an independent artist, and this is a huge problem for me right now in growing my small art business. I can see how the oversaturation of that market in the last few years really prevents me and other small artists from getting noticed (and not because our art sucks, because it doesn't). It makes we regret not launching my art business before covid.
Fascinating conversation - two people very clicked on and very knowledgeable in their area of passion. On that end point of versions of characters in books - I did have a friend who refused to watch the LotR movie because she had her own personal version of the whole series and wasn't interested in mucking that up.
The moment subscriptions were brought up, RUclips immediately ran an ad to sell me a sport subscription channel.
It’s always a pleasure hearing Brandon Sanderson, with his wealth of knowledge, talk about books, literature and literary industry. Daniel too.😉
Great conversation and well shot too 👏 it’s so conflicting existing in a world where I would love to support artists, filmmakers and authors as well as possible but bigger companies make it a poor financial decision to do so.
I try and live to my values and buy books from book shops new, or buy films if I really enjoy them but it’s music I struggle with as the streaming services are just so good.
cannot tell you how amazing and insightful this discussion was. I hope there are more of these.
Hey Daniel, I'd like to thank you for talking about AI not just as an author but also acknowledging the visual arts as well. I'm an artist myself and the past 18 months or so has been a very grim state of existential dread. I think something that's important to acknowledge, that I don't think you mentioned, is how the current data sets for this technology is built on stolen or laundered data - maybe it just goes without saying at this point.
I agree that the possibilities for AI are very exciting, and I can imagine it being used in ways that could help industries that are struggling or overburdened (for example the medical industry). Unfortunately when it comes to creative industries, the current goal seems to be solely to replace workers by using their own work as training data.
I understand you aren't a visual arts channel, so I don't expect you to talk at length about these topics, but I feel like all creatives are under the same threat currently and our best bet at a positive outcome is supporting one another. You summed it up perfectly at 15:47, we could go into lengthy discussions about fair use laws but I think all of us instinctively know that there's just something deeply wrong about big companies peddling AI generated work to the masses at the expense of an entire industry of creatives.
That's something I hope we regulate across the board, in the visual arts, in publishing, in music, in every industry. There should be protections put in place on the commercial/for-profit uses of AI, at the very least the data sets should have to be gathered ethically. Unfortunately it seems like visual artists are at the bottom of the totem pole right now as I've seen both musicians and authors using image generators to create artwork for their books/albums. Image generators are the hot thing right now, but when someone can push a button and make an entire album, or a novel - I think the creatives who used those image generators are going to see their misjudgement all too late.
This is why I think it's really important for creatives as a whole to stand together and support each other on this issue, not just their own industries if and when they come under threat.
I thought about using AI art but after I found out what it is doing is compiling pieces of other art to build the image I felt that was a bit off for me. There is a difference between being influenced by something so you take after that style and ripping it. I still have to find an artist that would not mind doing a picture for me for my book but unfortunately im also very broke. So I understand the temptation of *free art.
As a new author releasing my first book coming soon, this was really insightful. Thanks for setting this up, Daniel, and thanks to Brandon as always for being a force of clarity in the world of sci-fi/fantasy!
This conversation was delightful to listen to 😊 (despite the 🌌doom and gloom🌌)
I agree that we don't know exactly what will be the end long term result of all this AI stuff.
But as an artist, and even just as a guy who likes consuming other people's art, mainly little comics, tv shows, movies, and ocasionally books.... I'M SO GODDAMM SCARED OF HOW THIS COULD POTENTIALLY SCREW UP THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MEDIA THAT I LOVE!
I will NEVER give up reading physical books. I need to pack books I've read onto my shelves. As soon as I think about reading on a Kindle, I loose all interest.
I fuck with that energy, Brandon is such a sweetheart but he is also really fucking successful. Fuck yeah you’re one of just a handful that can’t be commercially ruined by them.
Love the respect these two have for each other.
All of these doom & gloom scenarios have their root in capitalism.
And cults.
In Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep robot animals were always secret, because real animals were an expensive status symbol, so it was embarrassing to be found owning robot animals. If robot animals were cheap in Blade Runner (I've not seen it) it was one of the few things Scott didn't change.
Brandon has achieved a higher, bearded form.
Some of the Amazon concerns could (and should) be addressed through antitrust legislation.
Amazon, and Disney, and Google…
I think Brandon's point about keeping premium rights is a great idea. I personally mostly read through digital means right now, but I will buy premium editions of books I love for my bookshelf. I value owning fewer nicer things (physically), so I will spend more money on a premium edition that will look beautiful on my shelf for years to come instead of cheaper paperback or hardback versions.
Happy to have Brandon being really candid here
That "good word of mouth" will only remain a reality with people like you Daniel. Indie authors are going to need people like you more than ever, and I can see how much of a challenge that is going to be. Not saying you should do more. Because you're doing plenty. And it's amazing. I just hope there would be more people to talk about all these great books within the indie space.
So Dope! Brandon Sanderson is one of my favorite authors!
I love Brandon so much, been with him since Memory of Light, have met him twice in Houston (Murder by the Book) and he is my favorite author, so I say this with love. His weight worries me. I hope he's taking care of himself. Main reason is of course is because he's a beautiful person and I want most people to be healthy but also he has so many more stories to tell. He's a global treasurer. I really hope he takes care of himself for himself and his family first, but for the world also. His work is incredibly important for the shaping of future writers and artists and content creators.
The Witcher books took an age to translate, started reading them 14 years ago and got my hands on first 2-3 no problem, then spent several years wait on ever moving release dates for the next one (my wife, then GF, at the time apologised to me several times she was not able to get it for birthday/xmas/anniversaries constantly)
39:45 I’m pushing 40. As my generation ages up and the youth of today hit the target market, I feel the general look at animated adaptations will shift positively across all age demos
Talking about different mediums being used to drag people to read your books is a great point. A near 30 minute video about the ecology of Roshar got me to read the Way of Kings and nearly all of Brandon Sandersons other books. A good medium for this could be videos like that or short, minute or 2, animated videos that act as trailers for the book/s
Spanish guy here, i love your content. Thats all.
Brandon got the Blade Runner reference slightly wrong!
In both the book and the movie, Real animals are the more expensive option!
What happened was that in the movie, not even the Tyrells had a real owl, while in the book, after doing a job Deckard is able to afford a real goat.
For the movie, when Deckard asks if the owl is real or not, the original script said "Of course it is", but it was later changed to the opposite.
So great you got to do this Daniel. So cool to see. Remember you doing vids way back. Keep the good content rolling.
Congrats on getting to meet the GOAT in person. You've officially made it.
Bill Waterson needs to be in that couch with them for this conversation.
What Amazon chooses to do about AI is what will happen with it. Right now AI books are not banned from Amazon and not even required to be labelled and it will create an infinite ocean.
Great conversation, but we need to see the shoes! How dare you not show off the Brandon-approved shoes lmao
They are on my insta if you scroll a bit haha
@@DanielGreeneReviews After scrolling, I have to agree with Brandon, those are great shoes!
We are so lucky to see conversations such as these!
I like this video. I really enjoy and value intelligent and first-hand industry conversation.
Great video. Thanks
Wow! what a great convo, thank you
I absolutely love the energy of each of these authors talking in their own videos- hearing them talk together? 🤩
I love hearing these philosophical videos. It’s really getting me thinking, and I’m glad because it gives me good wisdom for when I go to publish my books in the future
GREAT interview! I loved it.
Super insightful and knowledgeable for me as a writer, thanks for video
5:35 Firstly, I loved to hear this topic being addressed, congratulations on the video! About non-American (Or European) authors, as a Brazilian, I know several great fantasy writers here but none of them got translated, in part because it's too expensive, in part due to the fact that the "Brazilian cultural elite" still looks down on fantasy and also because it's hard to find support from the people as a whole. Any tips for those who want to publish abroad but don't have enough money or let's say "prospection"? Again, great video and by the way, Sanderson's Word of Radiance just arrived in Brazil and it's already a hit. Cheers!
Wooohooo im all there for the indian fantasy scene on the rise!
Loved this video. Fantastic conversation!
I use the programs inAudible and OpenAudible to download and convert digital copies of my audible books into any audio format I want and keep them as digital backups on my computers external hard-drive.. I know thats legal in the EU..
Great discussion. Really has me rethinking how I look and purchase books.
This is a fantastic conversation.
The idea that Amazon is crushing indie authors is an interesting idea in that it's certainly true but also weird they were the ones who created the environment the indie boom to begin with. What was the window of time where the indie publishing industry was actually healthy? Like 2014-2019?
Daniel, in regards to your prediction of genres starting to dissolve - It would be great for you to dive into the genres of Science-Fantasy that I think marked one of the early high water marks in genre fiction in the late 70's and 80's. The Book of the New Sun by Wolfe and Jack Vance's Dying Earth series were some of the most dominant series of their time while being firmly in-between genres.
I think a deep dive into genre history and the taxonomic choices that were made and the (surprising) wealth of variety that existed in decades past would be really interesting as a series
I think the animation older gen is already here. I'm 51 and watch a lot of animation, as do many GenXers I know. Animation should a great option if done right for adapting books. I would love to see the guys that did Arcane or Blue Eye Samurai do a BrandoSando book series.
Completely agree with the points made. Just launching my own first novel, a pirate fantasy adventure, with Shakespearian themes - On Seas of Reapers. Did not know where to begin with marketing, and initially forgot about traditional media (radio, news, newspapers) but was fantastic to speak to people in person about it, have had great feedback with the copies (20 or so) that I did signed for reviewers with tea and chocolate coins in the box I sent out as well.
Count it 21. Ive been looking for a Pirate Fantasy novel >.>
Fellow authors gotta help other authors out!
@@jalahjava_ Thanks so much! Based in UK , book is out next week on Dec 1st. There's treasure. Magic. Blood, and adventure. Synopsis:
In a sea far to the west, a pale moon straddles a darkening ocean.
When a mysterious girl washes upon a storm-stricken island, searching for a way to help rescue her best friend, she will find that there is more than sand and seawater awaiting her. She thought this was going to be easy! A quick in and out - the only trouble is: the island is controlled by pirates; and they are desperate to locate an ancient treasure.
With the help of new-found friends, the girl is thrust into a deadly race for a magical artefact, one that is only thought to exist in long, lost tales. Can they find the treasure before the dreaded pirate captain, Atlas Vain, does and stop his plan to destroy the entire island, leaving no trace he was ever there! All this must be done before her ill-fated friend meets the executioner's block, which is only mere days away...
This was such a good video. Sanderson is really well spoken and smart.
I canceled my Audible subscription and still have access to all my audiobooks I purchased.😊
DG is growing up before our eyes. Watching him go off the reservation once in a while and now he really gets it. He's all no fear now. The boy has become a man!
I hope you’ll upload more videos like this with Brandon Sanderson.
I make it a matter of principle, and I see it as a point of pride to always buy and own a physical copy of the book I am listening to or reading, even if it is an e-book. It's always felt like the right thing to do.
And I do stand by the words of Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A room without books is like a body without a soul."