Cobra Crash Willow Springs Raceway 130 MPH
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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On the front straight doing 130mph, something breaks in the frontend. The cobra veers hard right and off track. The car leaves a 6O foot gash in the asphalt as it veered before leaving the track and continued for an additional 500 feet off track to its resting point. I received only minor injuries to my left knee and bruised ribs.
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Glad you're still around. Forever ago my family had a cobra, was built from parts of 3 other cars that had all killed their owners. These things are no joke.
Cars don't kill their owners
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@@richardjenness838 yes they can
@@richardjenness838 What kill their owners is his head and his hands for the proper and ability to drive a Cobra or any racing car! Absolutly agree with you!
@@paoaiipi5580 you must also think guns kill people, and spoons make people fat.
i need to know what broke to initiate this horrible crash. I have mad respect for you taking your cobra out there and running the shit out of it!
Congrats on surviving this and thank you for sharing.
Two things come to mind;
#1, impressive camera mounts
#2, with a couple retraining cables you could utilize the trunk lid in much the same way NASCAR has the anti lift-off flaps that keep the vehicle from going airborne when traveling backwards at a high rate of speed.
Again, glad you're OK
As far as the car, its a race car, it lived and ended its life as many do.
Looks like that driver's side hoop did its job!
Are you kidding? His head was no where near the rollbar!! His seatbelts looked to be very loose. I watched this video 1/2 dozen times from his few laps prior to his crash and you could actually see his seatbelts weren't tight enough. I raced Nascar sanctioned circle track and my belts were so tight, I could barely move, and that's the way you want them. Freeze it at 6:21, his head was about 3 foot forward of the rollbar. The man is very lucky to be alive.
I didn't say "looks like the seatbelt did it's job," I talked about the head hoop which did not break or bend. The seat belts, that's another story...
When track days become this competitive, it's time to go racing for real, with roll cages, HANS devices, arm restraints, and fire suppression. The only difference between this miracle and horrible tragedy is luck.
From the video, it looks like he as much safety equipment as any Cobra would have had when original Cobras raced in the '60s and '70s. Plus he even had a full face helmet which even Shelby factory drivers lacked,
And what are all those sedans doing clutering up the track? It looked like another day on the beltway.
No, more like GOD!
@@martinmoffitt4702lol “god”
“If you’re gonna drive fast might as well add the risk of car-to-car accidents to” 🙄
Thank God you’re ok, I’m so sorry this happened but thank you for sharing this. Helped me with finding the proper line through turn 4 🙏🏽
I hope you recovered well and are back doing what you love!
God bless!
Bloody frightening mate, I used to build Cobra's had a lot to do with them in the late 80s , had a crash in 98 caught up in the marbles on a corner hit a retaining wall shattered the front cowling into pieces all over the place luckily the engine started the radiator had sprung a leak I drove it back to the pits. Heard of a bloke who went through a fence got garrotted, fence wire came up and over windscreen cut his head off. There's been more people killed in Cobra's than any other make of car ever produced, a wheel barrow with a v8, the back wants to pass the front. Just how good were those race drivers back in Shelby's days, RIP Ken Miles. Got that bloody Porsche felt like I was in the drivers seat for a second. Great video very glad driver survived. Note : to the rest of you would be's, if you're not a skilled race car driver don't do it stop the ego stuff you'll live longer.
More people killed in cobras than any other car produced ?
Thats simply a stupid statement .
First and foremost, I am glad to see that you walked away unscathed. I have seen many crashes with Cobra replica's, most of them seem to be Superformance cars. They have the best fit and finish of any replica manufacturer I have ever seen, but their handling is like that of a school bus. I won't give my name, but I have been under many of them, and have set a couple up for the track. The company is very good about addressing weak places when they are pointed out, so kudos for that. One car that I worked on had a true 427 side oiler in it, and no front anti sway bar, but a huge one in the rear. Who does that, I have never seen such an ill handling car in my life. So I outfitted the car with a front anti sway bar, then went about reducing the size of the rear, and it performed a lot better. I also lowered the rear and raised the front each by 3/8 inch, and that balanced it better. I have an Everett Morrison, running a C4 Corvette suspension, so I have no problem keeping pace with the newer cars, like the C6 or C7 with the Z51 package, and Vipers, but not the last ACR they made, that car actually makes downforce, which is something my car does not do. For the most part I think that the Superformance is a pretty safe car, a friend spun on the street and clipped a tree at about 80 mph, and only received a collapsed lung. I would like to compete, but I do not know what class I would need to enter. I did meet a guy at the Detroit Autorama some years back, and he raced his, but I don't know what hoops he had to jump through, to have his car accepted in to the antique class that he claimed he was in. Sorry, I didn't spell check or proof read. Now I am ready to hear everyone who owns a Superformance, call me a jackass, and this and that, even though I didn't really knock the car, just the handling. I can make it handle much better than they do when they are first delivered to you, but I don't want to open myself up to any liability, so I will keep the F/R weight bias, and the front and rear wheel alignments to myself.
Handling seems to be the last on anyone's list on these cars (in general not talking about this video). Idk why. Race cars are designed around the tyres and traction. I know shiny engines and ridiculous hp levels are cool. But power without control is weakness imho. This was a mechanical failure which I'm sure can happen to anyone. I'd love to talk to you about your setup. Tuning suspension and handling takes more time and knowledge than bolting in huge engines. So mad respect to race teams that do all that work. The one I built was forced to have too many compromises by my co-builder. For racing anyway. His standard was "does it start?". Does it stop is my first question. And how does it stop.
Great racing. So glad you survived. I got run off the road once at about 80 mph, did a lot of skidding and spinning, and not once did I feel like my Cobra was going to flip. It really stayed upright. A strong chain link fence stopped my Cobra when it snagged on the rollbar(car was going backwards), saving me from a probable head injury. The fence surrounded a drainage ditch that was about 15-20 feet deep! Sorry about the lose of your Cobra....
The reason it flipped is willow springs..
The bumpy sandpits make even modern cars with super low center of gravity flip because the car digs in and gets thrown around.
The track is wildly unsafe but so much fun!
Glad you're okay. I must ask... What kind of camera mount do you use?
At 140 MPH the Cobra with the aerodynamics of a brick and the up lift, the car weights 16 lbs. At VIR I was drafting a 996 Porche , popped out from behind him the car just turned sideways. The old saying is" The cobras going to bite its just where and when."
The big block 427 Cobra is probably one of the single most dangerous cars to drive.
I remember reading a book about Cobras and famous Cobra driver Ken Miles was perhaps the best of all Cobra drivers.
He had developed a most unique driving technique. When the tail started losing traction in a corner (i.e., oversteer) and the normal response would be to take your foot off the accelerator, Miles would instead slam his foot on the accelerator, and the car would simply realign itself bringing the rear end back in line.
Very few drivers could drive the Cobras to 9/10 of their capabilities.
Miles could and always did.
With the help of Shelby.
Lifting at the onset of more than just a little oversteer in a light, overpowered car quickly brings it all the way around.
Lucky to still have your right arm too!
Could have been an extremely painful accident.
Did you ever find out what caused the steering loss?
Every drivers nightmare...a suspension or steering part failure at speed. Glad you survived it! Really scary incident...
Glad you're okay. I'm surprised that they let you on the track with your harness improperly mounted. I work in the off road spectrum of racing and that would NEVER pass tech inspection. Hope you get it going again....and mount the harness correctly!
you caught that too
I have a backdraft roadster and every time I think about gassing it this exact scenario plays in my head.. I imagine flipping and getting my head chopped off lol
Glad to see you came out alive brother!
Every time I see this I have to comment. You are one lucky man to walk away from this accident. I hope I never have the same experience with my Cobra clone while I'm racing. I've road raced it a couple of times and have had some minor spin outs, but NOTHING compared to what you went through. I drag race mine, and have had a couple of people wreck on the track - always at top speed near the end of the race. It's scary, and there's really nothing I can do about it except try to stay clear of the debris and fluids. So far I've been lucky. Thank God you're OK.
Glad you survived! This is scary to watch. I've worried about the strength of roll hoops but this video seems like proof they do offer protection with 3 points - they didn't collapse or bend much. From materials science, fibreglass is stronger than the same weight of steel. Imagine what this would have looked like in a steel body. Your chassis was pretty strong. I'm watching to make my own journey safer - so thanks for sharing this vital footage. Can't have been easy to go through. But this video helps others including me. I'm adding ABS to my Cobra, because I've seen too many lock wheels. I want to change my chassis to the XCS 427 with patented constant camber and anti roll suspension. Double roll hoops. Probably going to upgrade the doors too. Thank God you're OK. That harness and helmet sure did their jobs that day. Tysm 🙏💪💛
Did you find out what exactly broke in the front suspension or steering on the Cobra?
Wow! I cant believe how lucky you are! What an incredible crash and thanks so much for sharing the video. As a fellow cobra owner and sometime track day driver, that's very sobering. I'll definitely be checking things over very well next time I go out!
Aw man, thats the one car that you dont wanna crash :(....thank god your ok brother.
Great to see that you're okay. So sorry about that gorgeous car. I hope you've gotten, or will get another to enjoy.
I have driven two sports cars 130 mph or more on the Interstate when there was zero traffic. One was a Porsche 911S racing a Hemi Barracuda (smeared him with ease) and the other was a 1966 Jaguar Series 1 XKE that was much quicker than my Porsche 911. Got stopped both times, tickets both times and paid for my crime both times. But those experiences qualify me to say that this was a good driver, far advanced from the average bear. His handling of traffic was responsible, he was patient and he knew how to nail it to catch up when the coast was clear. I found his run thrilling and entertaining. The crash did not appear to be his fault at all, appeared to be a structural failure of some kind. That is a problem weekend racers have; no pit crew to check their car from stem to stern for preventative maintenance. Some of the components in these cars are not race car quality. Shock absorber ends, ball joints, etc may not be up to the loads imposed by these cars. I want to buy a Superformance Cobra before I die but even back in 1964 I suspected the AC Shelby Cobras likely were loose snakes on the tracks. They sit too high in the rear, are too light in the rear and lack the suspension compared to the two cars I was driving. If I buy a Cobra I will not often drive it over 80mph, especially since I am now in my mid 60s!
My first impression was “why is he wearing a firesuit at a DE?” My second was “ Oh that’s why. This is a fire breathing monster and he likes to go really fast.” My third was “I don’t like how that shoulder harness is attached to the roll hoop with the much thinner metal bar one bit”. My fourth was “Fortunately, it was strong enough”.
You have better luck than me my friend for two reasons.
1.You owned a badass track car.
2. You survived crashing it.
Crash @ 6:18
left rear suspension/ corner failure, LR squats and pushes car to the right. when there is a failure on the front end, the car will be pulled to the side of the failure.
So thankful to see that you walked away from this. I will be going to big willow for my second time tomorrow and this video is a good reminder that even the best drivers can experience mechanical failure. Best of luck to you!
WOW.... I agree.. THANK GOD you came out of that in one piece... Really sorry about the car, man. That was a SWEET looking Cobra
Right before the car spins I see a steering correction to the left but absolutely no change in car's trajectory. Was the brakes on and wheels locked at that time or the steering was lost ?
I know this car, but not the owner. It was a my brother BMW shop in Gardena. It's a Backdraft Cobra with BMW e36 suspension.
Scary crash, glad he is ok.
I drive and ride vintage Do you know what broke?
I watched the video all the way through once, broke my heart but I'm glad you okay, I watched up untill the 6 minute mark about 20 times. What a machine !
Cars can be replaced. Glad you walked away. Very surprised track didn’t require arm restraints
Breaks my heart to see a beaut Cobra banged up! I built one of these here in South Africa and drove it daily 1992 -2002 with a Windsor 302 motor. Not so powerful but still great fun and sometimes a handful! Sorry I sold it though. Glad you survived all that.
Wow, glad you are okay, and nice job on the video. Did you ever figure out exactly what piece failed, a tie rod perhaps?
A. Friend of mine died in a similar kit car in NC a few years back. He bragged about having the single roll bar added and putting seat belts in it. I am glad you came out of that with your life. Good luck with your next car!
#1 and most important glad you are alive and I hope you are safe. Couldn’t keep watching after the crash. #2 and also important, sad to see that beautiful car go.
That cobra was putting the hurt on some flashy cars out there. Nice driving glad to see you were ok.
Any time something doesn’t feel quite right is the time that you slow down take it to the pits and check over it thoroughly 🤘🏼🚘🤘🏼
I had an E36 and the rear driver side suspension (bushings) gave out as I was making a turn and totalled the whole passenger side but at least I came out with only a few bruises and scratches.
Glad to see you came out ok!!!
Lucky you.
Cars can be replaced, that was a spectacular rummage sale! Now, WTF broke? Did your left rear tire blow? Nice to know the roll bars work in the Cobras.
AC Cobra, the widow maker....my dream car, but this is why I would never track it..i don't have the balls. Even with modern technology on this car, there is just that element of craziness that is a blessing and a curse. Thank god everything came out alright for you. Out of curiosity, who made this one?
So sorry about your accident. At around 6:19, when you counter-steered a little, it looked like
you also hit the brakes (watch the right knee).
That would have brought the rear end around to your left side. Do you remember doing this?
Good luck in your future driving. (from an old race driving instructor).
thank GOD, you are safe !!! A french fan...
Hallmanm
WOW, being alive is one thing, but keeping the arm?! like winning the lottery twice
wow that was intense. I hope to see that you were ok even after the shock wore off. I have had a crash or 2 myself. And it is unreal how adrenaline can power your mind and body to get up or out depending if its a bike or car and you walk away as soon as you come to a stop. Then only a few steps later you find out when the rush goes away you have some bad damage. So first and foremost I hope you are still ok and havent thrown in the towel so to speak. God speed to you and you road racing.
My condolences to your Cobra. What exactly broke that caused the crash?
Only liked because you put it out there. Heart breaking stuff to a car Lover. As a Cobra lover of that caliber i'm devestated for you. :(
Glad that you are OK. No scratches on the helmet. Why is there no explanation of the cause to date? What Kit Was it?
im surprised they let you out without arm restraints of some sort
God blessed you again with an extended life and I say again God bless you for that I'm so sorry for your losing your car that was a great example of what an AC Cobra should be, but I'm much more thankful for your well being. God bless you man.
At approximately 5:52 was the single piece of debris glancing angularly front to back noticeable to you? It's apparent inertia makes it seem more than cardboard or paper.
Nasty stuff......still gotta love the cobra. Glad you walked away
Sorry about your crash grateful to God you are alive
God obviously wanted him to crash, or he wouldn't have. Not sure I'd be grateful about that.
What an epic drive, been round there in my cobra 3 times a scary track indeed, nice to watch it done in stile ! Respect
Murphy was your co-pilot but you came out ok, glad you're alright ;}
Did you determine the cause? Very curious
Most of that will polish out.........
Glad to see you walked away, sounds glourious and looks like you were having fun before the crash.
He ran over something on the track that was small but big enough to create tyre damage. Listen at 6:07 or near,and watch the car bump up a little,as if it had ran over something. Track debris. That man can drive! Glad he's alive!
he's also lucky, more luck than anything...
At a buck thirty, you'd better be praying if the steering goes out! You did the right thing.
sorry you lost your beautiful car. glad you survived. i have a cobra roadster myself and push it kinda hard on a straight line on occasion but i can tell it's not really meant for road racing.
Even with the modern upgrades, the car is just dangerous, glad you respect the dangers of this car, to not get crazy
Did you ever figure out what happen?
HOLY SHIT...You are sooooo lucky...Glad you made it to play another day...
God, I'm glad you survived.....
It’s awful that feeling when you go from driver in control to passenger in the hands of the gods…. Glad you were ok, lucky escape.
I think it takes a helluva lot of stones to post this the way you did. Most of us would be licking our wounds. Good for you.
I am sure you have seen that there is loads of crash video from Willow. This is a very fast track. Many cars running 130 mph. If a car dumps on the track you may be the one to find out.
Holy $h!t that was so much more violent than I was expecting! Glad you're ok!
Believe it or not the frame & suspension geometry of most the high dollar replicas are better engineered . ride quality & handling greatly improved from the originals but don't garner anywhere near selling prices of original Cobras ..that was an IRS rear ? it appeared as if something let go in the rearend ?
Glad your OK, sorry for your loss
I was there racing when it happened and yes pete extremely lucky to be alive.
Klaus
The problem I see with these homemade race cars is that the amount of money they put into the car isn't distributed equally between the running gear and engine. Most people put huge amounts of money into the engine which then over powers the drive train or suspension. I'd rather have a beefed up drivetrain and suspension than a huge monster engine with tons of hp. With high hp you can go fast but can't turn...with suspension you can easily drive full speed in turns and catch up. Balance is key!
I totally agree with you. I'd put more into the chassis and suspension and drive drivetrain before the engine.
Wish the camera was pointed forward
Looked like your seat belt was loose as you are flying around a bit. Lucky your arms didn't get torn off. What broke?
that so terrifying seeing that thing roll like that.. you can see his arms touching the ground as the entire vehicle is upside down above him.
With all of the comments below on what parts might have failed, racing vs house parts, what type of suspension... I have to ask the most pertinent equipment question of all... What high quality brand of underwear were you running that day, because I didn't see the brown stain on the back of your nomex suit at ALL...
did you have a sore neck after that?
Dan Brown ,god has plans for you. You had a angel riding shotgun. That was a really nice cobra
LOVE the Seat Belt attachment theme here...who let this thing on the track???
Glad you were okay.
Hey, boy I enjoyed the ride, I`m just glad that it was your cobra instead of mine...
It sucks you lost the car, but it's great you're alive. Cars can be replaced, you cannot be.
Curveball nope
What ever company built that kit is great!!..Thing kept you alive~!
K. W. Churchill Backdraft
Wow man, saw this posted on Talk Cobra. Glad you are ok! The rest can be rebuilt.
Snake bite! There a handful at the best of times . Was it a backdraft cobra?
I thought that your arm would of been torn off when you stuck it out. Youz lucky.
I have to ask catoobusy, is the car a kit car, if so which one? I ask because if it is you should send a note to the mfg so they can see how well the car held up. You were lucky. Glad you weren't seriously hurt.
Brake line collapsed causing the sudden hard turn???
Looks like the typical crash, that is for the cobra and a lot of these cars are kit cars. Braking and steering is scary in some of the kit cars.
Dam dude your lucky that was unreal.. thankfully you are ok
Well, knowing a crash was coming, I looked hard at the driver only roll bar and thought, man, shouldn't that be an inch or two higher? But, I guess it did fine. Wow, what a place for that, going into turn 9. Yeesh. Glad you did ok. Bummer about the car. Funny, your frame was tweaking before you rolled. I noticed the trunk pop, presumably from twisting forces, before you rolled.
Going into T1. No wall outside T9.
Whoa that thing started to come apart before it left the wheels!! Tie rod break? What is that black spot in front of the 🌞I can fix it my dad's a tv repairman and has some awesome tools😂😂😂glad your ok sir💯
Curtis Hill Damn dude that’s wrong. Lol
Thank god he is ok!!! brave dude!!
Glad you are okay sir!
Wow. Glad you are alive and well. Surprised. Not much protection
j s Obviously you're unaware of the statistics of people who have died, who thought that speed was what it was all about, i'm not talking about professional race car drivers but the people who build replica cars and think that they have the skills to manage them, its a known fact that more people have been killed in replica Cobra sports cars than any other type sports cars. I've been around this industry since the late 50's, I saw Shelby, Salvadori and Harry Schell at a Grand Prix meet in 1959 spent some time with John Olsen, Kiwi spanner man for Shelby and who later worked with Pete Brock on the Daytona Coupe.
Many people, myself included, know that people are 27 times as likely to die per mile driven on a motorcycle than when in a car, yet they keep riding while knowing that risk. This fellow may have had a full knowledge of the risks of driving a full-blown road/track car with that powerful of an engine. He also knows that a suspension or steering part doesn't care about statistics when it breaks... it just breaks.
I'm more scared of a cobra killing me than I am of the dodge viper
@6:46 looked like a tie-rod end bouncing behind you?
That is exactly what failed. On any car that is tracked one must go through the suspension components as tracking puts a lot of stress on everything.
Race on sunday,,,,,, sell on Monday ',,,',,,,,that's what a mechanic told me at Riverside speedway back in 1968,,,,,,, seems like yesterday with the original Cobras,.....
very sad my condolences on the cobra
Amazing you walked away thank God you're okay!
You should have secured the passenger seat belt. Bad safety on your part.