Amazing video and info, thank you very much for sharing such awesome info with us beginners, you really help me make my journey to long flight times much easier !
My pleasure, Ralph Makes me happy that I can help with what I’m doing. And flying is all about having fun. I you need more information then just let me know
@@JustFPV-net Thank you very much, that is very appreciated ! I really enjoy watching your videos because you do it awesome with fun, very informative, and wonderful scenery too. Well done and keep up the good work ! We beginners are glad to have you help us so much !
@@JustFPV-net You are absolutely welcome !!! The crashes, losses with the fixing and so much of testing I've done as a beginner so far, its cruel lol ! So with helpful people like you for example, you can imagine how much of help you provide. I might be one person or the only person that is thanking you for your hard work and advice, but I like to show the appreciation so you keep going and doing the awesome work you do ! Thank you very very much !!!
Good day to you JustFPV I have a quick question regarding the use of the 21700 5000mah 10A max discharge li ion cells, specifically in a 3s setup. Have you tried a 21700 battery pack in this ar mini wing by any chance ?
Hi there :) No, I didn't as they would be to heavy for the cause! 4x18650 (45g) was on the edge of what was good! going beyond those 200g would be hard to balance out (for me) and further the 21700 would be to bulky! That was the reason why I skipped 21700 cells on the Ar Mini ... (but I did on the Ripper!)
@@JustFPV-net Thank you for your reply. I was thinking about it and even though I do not have those 21700 cells with me right now, I am sure that three should fit in the ar mini electronics bay, and weigh approximately 210g to 230g , would that be ok to try on the ar mini ?
For me it was to much and the wing starts to tell you that with some slight pitch-bobbing ... I assume the center to become to heavy so it bounces slightly up and down as the wings bend according to the motion. I would not try it. 4x18650 was the max in weight and space for my Ar Mini and the performance was great - adding more weight would not gain more I think. But it's your call ... If you try, you'll find out :)
I missed that ... my bad! It is a emax mt2204 II with 2300kv ... any modern 2204 will give same results ... just don’t take a Motor with much lower kv !
Brilliant, just what I was looking for. Always fancied one of these, as I own the original Ar wing and the pro. I've heard these are great little flyers?
@@JustFPV-net Yes I totally agree. I shall be putting a emax red bottom, 2205 2300kv on mine with a folding prop and full inav with Express Lrs. Should be interesting 😉
@@JustFPV-net Yes, the intentions are good. And thinking about it now, i,ll scrap the folding prop and just keep that for the bigger stuff like Mini Talon and Skyhunter 1800mm
usually not .... to be honest I find that discussion on horizon drift to be a bit overrated! It happens ... but it's gone soon after. Perhaps it's the way I fly that it wont happen that often. But I don't feel it to deserve so much attention as other people describe it. But it would be nice if we see that fixed in a future version of iNav ... let's say v4 or v5 :D Perhaps we should first enjoy, what V3.1 has in store ... Are you "afraid" of the drift effect?
@@JustFPV-net yeah im afraid, since im just wanna to get started with wing (drone fpv before) and im dilematic if i need go with inav or ardupilot, since i will seriously long range 20km+. My complain about ardupilot just very few fc and not found 20x20 fc for small wing like this. I dont think inav cant fix that if pawel not use Kalmam filtering method. What he suggested is ignoring fast turn on FW with limit gyro on cli and its bad even worst if you fly in strong wing. Bad or not bad if there still a horozon drift it will affect RTL especially if trigger that on long range, and cant help exceptswitch to acro mode/manual mode
I disagree on the last part! RTH will "only" turn from your current heading to the next HOME point. after that it will stay linear and fly home. No turns in between :) So the risk is not that high. And yes ... I've tried hitting RTH from that distance (with this wing) ... worked as expected- no worries
Greetings again Matebox in Motion. I'm beginning to build my Ar mini wing, I've soldered the pin connectors to the Matek F411 WSE. I have a question regarding the positioning of the flight controller and esc, can the both be mounted next to each other without any interference ?
It can but I would try to stuff the esc right in front of the motor mount inside the fuselage as the space is optimal for that. I’ve got mine there too. Put a cap on the esc and on the esc-pins (+ and -) of the WSE to prevent the noise from coming from the esc! Then you are good to go
@@JustFPV-net Thank you so much for your reply. I'm not clued up on caps and the rating to use on the esc. Do I have to use a cap or can I get away without using one ?
You can of course get away with it without a cap! But be prepared (depending on your ESCs noise level) to loose the OSD at higher throttle! That happened in my last flight (on air next Wednesday). After having installed the Cap, the problem was solved. I used 470my-Farad caps ... inexpensive but still the bringer of joy ( ... and clear OSDs ) :D
@@JustFPV-net Does the osd return when you decrease throttle to cruise ?... I'll only use full/high throttle only for launching, thereafter I'll cruise out for distance.
@@ZuNunchaku just FPV has played around with this a lot more than I have. But from my testing and burning up a couple of motors (New amp meter on the way) I have found on 3S the APC 6x6 pitch is the limit, do not run on 4s! And on a 4S battery I am using a 5x4.6 Bull nose prop. If you run the APC 6 inch prop do not do full throttle runs for long periods of time.
The best simple detachable wing method！
Thanks Josh - normal Velcro will do too ;)
Very nice achievement buddy.
Thanks mate- let’s hope for summer and another light house trip together and the #raphax wings
Amazing video and info, thank you very much for sharing such awesome info with us beginners, you really help me make my journey to long flight times much easier !
My pleasure, Ralph
Makes me happy that I can help with what I’m doing. And flying is all about having fun. I you need more information then just let me know
@@JustFPV-net Thank you very much, that is very appreciated !
I really enjoy watching your videos because you do it awesome with fun, very informative, and wonderful scenery too.
Well done and keep up the good work ! We beginners are glad to have you help us so much !
Thats made my day - thank you soooo much!
@@JustFPV-net You are absolutely welcome !!!
The crashes, losses with the fixing and so much of testing I've done as a beginner so far, its cruel lol !
So with helpful people like you for example, you can imagine how much of help you provide. I might be one person or the only person that is thanking you for your hard work and advice, but I like to show the appreciation so you keep going and doing the awesome work you do !
Thank you very very much !!!
Good day to you JustFPV
I have a quick question regarding the use of the 21700 5000mah 10A max discharge li ion cells, specifically in a 3s setup.
Have you tried a 21700 battery pack in this ar mini wing by any chance ?
Hi there :)
No, I didn't as they would be to heavy for the cause! 4x18650 (45g) was on the edge of what was good! going beyond those 200g would be hard to balance out (for me) and further the 21700 would be to bulky! That was the reason why I skipped 21700 cells on the Ar Mini ... (but I did on the Ripper!)
@@JustFPV-net Thank you for your reply.
I was thinking about it and even though I do not have those 21700 cells with me right now, I am sure that three should fit in the ar mini electronics bay, and weigh approximately 210g to 230g , would that be ok to try on the ar mini ?
For me it was to much and the wing starts to tell you that with some slight pitch-bobbing ... I assume the center to become to heavy so it bounces slightly up and down as the wings bend according to the motion. I would not try it. 4x18650 was the max in weight and space for my Ar Mini and the performance was great - adding more weight would not gain more I think. But it's your call ... If you try, you'll find out :)
@@JustFPV-net And using 21700's on the s800 ?
Would that provide a longer flight time ?
I don't know ... that Li-Ion thing went off so much later after I finalized my S800 :)
Looks great, thanks for the video. Will test the motor/prop setup as well. You didn't list the motor in the video description.
I missed that ... my bad! It is a emax mt2204 II with 2300kv ... any modern 2204 will give same results ... just don’t take a Motor with much lower kv !
Schönes setup. Kommt mir sehr bekannt vor ✌️😂 bin auf das Feedback mit meinem neuen Motor gespannt. Dein Intro ist echt spitze geworden.
Das wird cool werden ... warte es ab! Next fly-out soon, dude
How did you get the wings to detach etc? Do you have a link or a page I could follow to do the same?
Yep ... I did state that in the description- have a look here : www.justfpv.net/lets-build-the-ar-mini-v2/
@@JustFPV-net thx!!
You're welcome :)
Would 1603 2800kV motor be better for 3S1P?
It has great efficiency with 4" props
I don’t know- I don’t have a pair of that but 2800kv is surely not wrong ;)
Greetings and good day once again JustFPV.
May I know your all up weight (AUW) on this Ar Mini Wing ?
I think it was about 429g ... or something like that
@@JustFPV-net Thank you so much !
As usual: anytime ;)
Brilliant, just what I was looking for. Always fancied one of these, as I own the original Ar wing and the pro. I've heard these are great little flyers?
They are cheap an awesome in so many ways. Definitely a wing to go for - especially in this configuration
@@JustFPV-net Yes I totally agree. I shall be putting a emax red bottom, 2205 2300kv on mine with a folding prop and full inav with Express Lrs. Should be interesting 😉
Sound like the beginning of a wonderful story. Perhaps you can skip out the folding prop… it will work even without that
@@JustFPV-net Yes, the intentions are good. And thinking about it now, i,ll scrap the folding prop and just keep that for the bigger stuff like Mini Talon and Skyhunter 1800mm
This is the way ;-)
Do you have any horizon drift with inav when hard banking?
usually not .... to be honest I find that discussion on horizon drift to be a bit overrated! It happens ... but it's gone soon after. Perhaps it's the way I fly that it wont happen that often. But I don't feel it to deserve so much attention as other people describe it.
But it would be nice if we see that fixed in a future version of iNav ... let's say v4 or v5 :D Perhaps we should first enjoy, what V3.1 has in store ...
Are you "afraid" of the drift effect?
@@JustFPV-net yeah im afraid, since im just wanna to get started with wing (drone fpv before) and im dilematic if i need go with inav or ardupilot, since i will seriously long range 20km+. My complain about ardupilot just very few fc and not found 20x20 fc for small wing like this.
I dont think inav cant fix that if pawel not use Kalmam filtering method. What he suggested is ignoring fast turn on FW with limit gyro on cli and its bad even worst if you fly in strong wing.
Bad or not bad if there still a horozon drift it will affect RTL especially if trigger that on long range, and cant help exceptswitch to acro mode/manual mode
I disagree on the last part! RTH will "only" turn from your current heading to the next HOME point. after that it will stay linear and fly home. No turns in between :) So the risk is not that high. And yes ... I've tried hitting RTH from that distance (with this wing) ... worked as expected- no worries
Greetings again Matebox in Motion.
I'm beginning to build my Ar mini wing, I've soldered the pin connectors to the Matek F411 WSE. I have a question regarding the positioning of the flight controller and esc, can the both be mounted next to each other without any interference ?
It can but I would try to stuff the esc right in front of the motor mount inside the fuselage as the space is optimal for that. I’ve got mine there too. Put a cap on the esc and on the esc-pins (+ and -) of the WSE to prevent the noise from coming from the esc! Then you are good to go
@@JustFPV-net Thank you so much for your reply.
I'm not clued up on caps and the rating to use on the esc. Do I have to use a cap or can I get away without using one ?
You can of course get away with it without a cap! But be prepared (depending on your ESCs noise level) to loose the OSD at higher throttle! That happened in my last flight (on air next Wednesday). After having installed the Cap, the problem was solved. I used 470my-Farad caps ... inexpensive but still the bringer of joy ( ... and clear OSDs ) :D
@@JustFPV-net Does the osd return when you decrease throttle to cruise ?... I'll only use full/high throttle only for launching, thereafter I'll cruise out for distance.
Mine went blurred invisible at about 60% throttle... and that’s so crappy ;)
so is 4s recommended or not? any video about 3s vs 4s on this plane?
I would recommend 4s to have every option at hand! The lower weight with 3s makes the wing a bit less bouncy but that's not really an issue.
Plane flies great on 3 or 4s with prop change 👍 ruclips.net/video/8aR4Cy_QS0g/видео.html
@@Gordon-Scott what prop combo did you recommend for those batt?
@@ZuNunchaku just FPV has played around with this a lot more than I have. But from my testing and burning up a couple of motors (New amp meter on the way) I have found on 3S the APC 6x6 pitch is the limit, do not run on 4s! And on a 4S battery I am using a 5x4.6 Bull nose prop. If you run the APC 6 inch prop do not do full throttle runs for long periods of time.
Try to change to a 2205ish motor for 4s and 6“ prop .. that helps heaps
Only 15min flytime? That's not never landing setup... 😂 But very nice setup. Wish I have one one day...
It was 15min on that day- I can assure you, that there is plenty in store for more flight time. ;)