In the flash forward at the end of the comics, a full 30 or so years later, they’ve just managed to restore a steam-powered transcontinental railroad. They’ve managed to recover to 1800’s levels of society, though really advanced stuff like computers they couldn’t maintain supply chains / expertise to manufacture. Most zombie hordes were gradually wiped out from attrition ( the survivors are careful to destroy the brains of their recently dead, so the zombies never increase from their numbers the first year of the outbreak). Not much detail but America is a loose confederation/alliance of growing regional states gradually coalescing together again.
That honestly sounds pretty reasonable. We would have engineers and mechanics who could follow plans for old trains and literal metric tonnes of good steel. Making a CPU on the other hand is a closely guarded secret and would require us to raid the right lab with the right person and somehow be able to transport all the equipment perfectly.
@@derp489 well not even a “secret” - just that modern production is such an interconnected web that if a FEW people are dead, but they were the only ones who knew how to manufacture one part, it can’t be made. Remember “Day of the Triffids” had a whole large theme on this (you have to know how to mine and forge your own plow from scratch). I MYSELF sure don’t know basic blacksmithing! I DO know how to assemble bullets from PREMADE materials, how to refill shotgun shells (and this puts me ahead of many who don’t)…but from premade gunpowder and premade primers! Do YOU know how to make ammo primers FROM SCRATCH?!
Id love a story thats set in a post-post zombie apocalypse. just a new world thats on the other end of all the drama. What would it look like? what new lines in the sand would be drawn between people?
@@JunjiItoDougWalker the book “World War Z”: - the USA, Canada, and UK are hard hit but recover - most of the US retreats into a safe zone west of the Rockies. A large survivalist enclave manages to survive in the Black Hills of Dakota, declare their secession after being abandoned. - Islands do better, such as the UK and Cuba. Retreat from England to Scotland and Ireland then gradually retake England. Zombies never got a foothold in Cuba due to disproportionately large military for small island population. - Continental Europe is even worse. Scandinavia was never cleared. - Russia and China were absolutely devastated - India manages to recover after retreating to Himalayas valleys. - In the blind panic trying to stop infected refugees, Iran and Pakistan destroy each other in a limited nuclear exchange. - so much of Eurasia was devastated that Russia, despite its apocalyptic losses, annexes much of it ( clearing regions lost to zombies) - Israel survived because it was literally the only country to take warnings seriously, and built a massive perimeter wall.
Charles Babbage developed a steam engine powered ( one could use a pre industrial age windmill or water wheel) computer, called the "differential engine" in the early 1800s. He also developed binary computer language with the help of Ada Lovelace ( she's considered the first computer programmer). This was before the first American transcontinental railway.
That bird had some very salient points on how society might rebuild after an undead apocalypse, he said .22s and or Cattle Bolts would become common household items and cremation would replace burying our dead as the default.
I gave up on walking dead a couple episodes into season 5, when they kept repeating the same tired mantra: humans are the monsters. But this was interesting.
Lasted longer than I did I tossed it into the trash after the pilot episode when they showed the next episode was Rick riding around trying to escape the zombies and one of them was carrying a fucking rock and trying to use it as a weapon The pilot episode is one of the best post-world representations ever put to media, its just sad that muh zombies overrode the possibility of an accurate post apocalypse scenario. Screw you Kirkman
@@victorkreig6089 Kirkman wrote the comic, the season 1 show runner was Frank Darabont. The comics are pretty good, and the Rise of the Governor novel is excellent as well.
I watched most of the pilot with my wife, many years in, as she had just joined a "watch party" group of friends and wanted to catch up. Honestly though, I was out before I ever started. I bartended on Sunday nights when new episodes would come out, and we'd put it on for lots of the patrons to watch. I caught the gist of Season 2 by osmosis and was so bored of the "something happens in the opener, walk aimlessly for the rest of the episodes, have a shocking death/reveal at the end to tease next season" that I hated the entire concept.
I have binged so much of your content in the last week. Honestly I love these analysis on ideologies and how they shape societies and people around them. Thank you for expanding my view on some of my favorite pieces of media.
I am incredibly glad that I've found this channel. It's probably one of the few remaining sources of good, valuable videos among a pit of slop that we call this website. Please, keep up the good work!
I lost interest in the main show around the time Glenn met Lucille. I lingered until about the midway point of season 8 though. It was obvious they were going to meander through a lot of episodes before resolving the whole Alexandria/Hilltop vs The Saviors conflict. My favorite stretch of the show was between the prison and Alexandria. The wandering survivors aspect kept things interesting, though I realize a story can only focus on that for so long. The reorganization phase of these events are rarely interesting to me mostly because the emphasis shifts from the zombies and the basic survival elements to other aspects. A personal preference to be sure. I will say TWD and its spin-offs are fairly unique as most zombie apocalypse stories don’t explore this far into the future after the fall of the old world.
Hello from me and the Somerset Ferrets here in little old airstrip 1, I wasn't going to ask until you mentioned beastmaster(thus proving you have a soft spot for ferrets) but is their any chance you have cast your eyes over Survivors the 1976 BBC tv series, it is available on RUclips I think you'd find it very interesting. All the best and thank you for the videos.
I had completely forgotten about Survivors. Like most BBC shows when I was a kid, I saw a scattered handful of episodes, usually out of sequence. I'll have to give that soem attention.
I for one would love to see you give it the Feral treatment, the societies that rise and fall as the years run on pretty much cover the spectrum as I remember. I'm definitely a Hubert, and coincidentally love in the next village to the Actor John Abineri till he sadly died. He liked ferrets too!
I don’t what’s scarier: that the military is operating without civilian oversight or that the civilian oversight is there but evil and working against you.
That stuff you're talking about at the end, wanting to see how the world evolves post zombie control is why I'd really love if they did a proper adaptation of World War Z as an Anthology series where each book chapter is a 1-1.5hr episode. The World War Z world didn't break down quite as much as the Walking Dead world did, but still.
Never seen your channel before, but I am a major walking dead fan. Loved hearing you talking about the new spinoff in this way. I agree, I also want to see them delve into how sustainable the cities will become. With season 2 of Dead City focusing on kind of rebuilding New York we might actually be getting that.
Telltale Season 1 is still one of the best games I’ve played. The rest of the series is good too, but the first was the best. 👍 Telltale Walking Dead Ranking: Season 1 Season 4 Seasons 2/3
This might not be the place for this discussion, but how the hell does the CRM exist in Philly but they have no idea the Commonwealth exists in Ohio. Ok
You must tell us the secret to your eloquence. You are truly an enjoyable speaker, able to communicate complexity with brevity and clarity. Please go on making more content.
I'm just amazed they have functioning helicopters 14 years later. Those things are very maintenance intensive tend to break if you look at them funny . Not to mention where are they getting the fuel from?
My wife makes jet fuel and I fly helicopters for a living so this is something I know a bit about. The fuel side would be surprisingly easy to do, but the helicopters would quickly become death traps without newly manufactured parts. BUT I used to fly a really odd helicopter from the 50s. How did my employer keep it flying without parts being made? They literally bought the entire military’s stockpile of parts in the 60s and are the only operators of the model flying a handful of aircraft 20-50 hours a year each. They still have enough parts to keep going for quite awhile…
In my opinion - as a Walking Dead fan anyway -, the CRM was horribly written and comically evil, not to mention extremely rushed for their years of buildup, I wish they were less comically authoritarian and had more nuance to them. Also is that a VSR-93 jacket? been looking for one forever lol
Agreed, the CRM could have been much more nuanced and interesting. The jacket is legit VSR, I've _had_ it forever it seems like. No idea where to get one now.
I put your videos on the background but sometimes I watch em, and I keep forgetting that your phenotype is crazy dude, i'm talking straight out of yakub's early prototype albino phase on the boat leaving mecca. Also were you in like an indie post apocalypse film or something, I'd definitely give it a watch.
The postapo piece: I think it's dead media now. It was a short that ran at two tiny festivals, was never distributed. Whether myself or anyone involved still has the final cut on a backup drive or DVD somewhere is an open question. If I find it, I'll post it.
I always wanted an apocalypse survival without any extra drama. Just good decision making skills and "holy shit, I don't wanna die". I suppose that will never happen to my satisfaction cause what I consider good decisions, is not what others would consider good decisions.
Define 'extra drama.' The appeal for most people is the interactions, the drama, between the survivors as they decide what 'survival' means and what costs they're willing to shoulder to make it happen.
@@boobah5643 The drama should be in the real interactions and real actions of the characters trying to handle the Apocalypse. Take the original series as an example. The story starts with the main character waking up at the hospital. And then, when he finally finds his family, his wife is sleeping with another man. This is the perfect example of unnecessary extra drama that gets added to stories where it doesn't belong. And this continues. More and more bloat and unnecessary nonsense gets added, while the actual premise gets pushed to the background.
@Hugebull If you were looking for an example I'd recognize, I'm afraid I'm one of the dozen or so people who have never watched _The Walking Dead._ My first thought is why wouldn't Protagonist's wife, in the middle of an apocalypse, separated from Protagonist with no reason to believe he's even still alive, move on?
@@boobah5643 First of all, she starts a relationship pretty much immediately after thinking her husband is dead. And second, this is a story that is written. The writers added this on top of the Zombie Apocalypse story for the purpose of padding scenes with drama that has no place. Instead of keeping the focus on what is going on, we have scene after scene, drama after drama, dealing with a love-triangle. Love-triangles are 99% of the time, entirely implemented for manufactured drama. One may understand why they would start adding senseless drama by season 7. But when your first episode has it? Then something is seriously wrong with the foundation of the storytelling. It is a symptom of a larger problem, where shows spend most of their time on needless and senseless drama, instead of actually dealing with the premise itself.
I'd watch a proper "nerd debate" TV show presented by FH. He's a talented communicator and excellent writer. But this is probably better (for us) because here he is beholden to no one and says whatever he really thinks. Still... The man deserves a huge stack of cash and his thoughts to come out to a greater audience
I imagine the future of the walking dead universe is something like the movie Fido. All cities are walled ones with travel between them limited to armored guarded convoys or by airplane. The elderly and sick are placed under armed guard. Funerals are conducted by the state and involve the corpses being decapitated and bodies incinerated. And some industrious individuals are figuring out how to domesticate and make use of zombies as pseudo slaves.
The main thing I took from the Walking Dead series is that while it has hoards of walking dead, they at least have the excuse of being mindless. People on the other hand show themselves to be the real monsters.
New listener. Love the content. Wish i found you earlier. I hope the algorithm picks you up. Have you ever done (or considered doing) some of turtledoves books? He can be a bit awkward (especially the sex scenes), but he clearly loves history and god that man clearly loves baseball, but he has a certain 'x' factor is you will...where I always cant wait to start the next book.
I haven't done much with Turtledove's books yet, though I've been intending to for a long time. the WorldWar series obviously, and I have a stack of notes about his Southern Victory series that need to be sorted through. And of course I'm going to bring up Guns of the South at some point.
@feralhistorian I love everything about this reply! Can't wait! Looking forward to next upload. Just started Draken series this morning from your recommendation
Yet another banger video. Can't tell you how much I enjoy your content. The CRM had so much potential to open up the world of TWD on a global scale but they just dropped it. I guess it was nice to see Rick's story come to a satisfying conclusion but the potential to see a global network of societies, republics and civilizations adapting to a reality with walkers should be followed up on.
Can’t remember if it was said in the walking dead or not, but a likely thing that would happen is everyone always carrying a small .22 or that cattle gun thing you make cows brain dead with before slaughter. Just incase someone dies or one stumbles onto your property
Definetly not in the TV WD universe. These people can't even figure out how to re-invent spears. Why affix a pointy onto the end of a stick when you can engage a zombie within kissing range?
If you doing comics that have been turned into TV shows invincible is a finished series and has some really interesting things to say about alliances and covert actions between governments as well as their populations. Also some really interesting stuff about eugenics, population decline, and societal PTSD through cultural conditioning.
Can you please give the video game We happy few a look? It’s a diamond in the rough gameplay wise yet it has an incredible story and characters! A lot of the story has enough to make you put the pieces together and is open to interpretation!
I enjoyed the original show up to a point. The gritty survival gave way to a mix of 80s war B movie, "the message" and soap opera. Would groups of people who know their resources and populations are finite really expend vast amounts of both in a fruitless conflict? It looks good on the screen though. They could have saved a lot of lives if they just got Rick and Negan together, gave them both a ruler, measured up and called it a day.
What do you think about Max Brooks World War Z? I think it did a pretty good job at showing the realities of a Zombie Apocalypse. Especially when Nations/People realized recreating the "Old World" was impossible and the only way to survive was to adapt to the "New" one.
The idea that North Korea would endure an Apocalypse better than any other modern country, is an idea I have taken for my own Apocalyptic/Post-Apocalyptic writing. A Coronal Mass Ejection isn't going to do much... when you don't have any power to begin with.
@@feralhistorian I would suggest the Audiobook version. It has a whole bunch of different people narrating the different characters being interviewed. Nathan Fillion voices one, although I forget who.
Speaking of dropping in on a world, TWD always reminded me of a TV version of Romero's first films, and TWD is akin to the Planet of the Apes TV show of the mid-70s. I'd like to see a reborn version of that show, w the old makeup, not CGI because it seems clear that the apes of the original quintet of films and those of the tv series are human-ape hybrids, as they are high on the Uncanny Valley scale in ways the more realistic CGI apes can never be. 2000 years of science experiments and radioactive mutation is a good premise for this hybrid ape form. Too bad the studios don't see the natural evolution of this trope and instead worry if they should link the 60s-70s Apeverse with the 21st C one. It should, and its an obvious way to do it, as I suggest. As for science? Ape-human hybrids are FAR more realistic than zombies.
I've watched several of your videos and checked the titles of the others. I would like to see you do a video about the Kim Stanley Robinson Three Californias Trilogy,which with it's examination of capitalism seems like your kind of thing.
Given your love of dystopias I'm curious if you've seen A Man for All Seasons (1966). When you think about it it has some eerie dystopian overtones for what is meant to be a historical drama set in Tudor England. case in point: ruclips.net/video/1Acvwko6Wd0/видео.html
I think someone else has already mentioned this to you, but you should check out the low budget cult classic “Jeremiah” TV show from the early 2000s. The most interesting thing about the show is the premise. It’s basically a post-post-apocalypse story where civilization collapsed about 15 or so years before the show starts. A planet wide plague which mysteriously killed everyone “over the age of innocence” if I remember the phrasing right.
This show was really good because it was a sequel to the flagship show and it had a conclusive ending, something the walking dead is really bad at,the writing and acting was the best I've seen in the franchise
The clean Wehrmacht trope is long indeed. It's ironic being one of the most brutal Nazi loyalist wasn't in the SS but the Heer. Ferdinand Schorner was lets say a butcher mostly of his own men, on a scale that would even horrify an SS General. Yet because most of his crimes were against his own troops during war time he kinda got off easy criminally. It's often overlooked how loyal many German generals were to the Nation Socialist movement and were believers in the Nazi Cult. Young officers in particular were very indoctrinated into the Cult.
Yeah those old germans really have some blood, kind of like the old american indians. I guess all of it has been spent, though in that one war. they kind of died off after that, must be something with the food. Although their echo still live on, pretty strong maybe they'll break out. Only time will tell
@Alte.Kameraden the food thing is just a hunch, hyper process foods are differently poison and even the europeans are dealing with obesity from it. As for their blood, I mean their fighting spirit, man. Despite the allies having more production and man power germany was still able to capture a lot of territory and hold out for a while. A lot of the German army still relied on horsepower, and their Air force was shattered, but they fought on. even after they perished, they influenced the state so much with their security apparatus and other doctrines, not to mention that many were just integrated into germany as NATO generals. For the losers in the war, that's a lot. I relate them to the old American Indian tribes because in the past they were barbarians compared to the mediterranean who had civilization. due to their harsh environment, they had to become a warrior people, for a time that memory lived on perhaps it still does is what I'm saying. With them rearming in the face of another war with russia, i wonder if we will see that warrior people again
In all honesty I couldn’t ever get into The Ones who Live because I just couldn’t stand hearing “Civic Republic” and “CRM” all the time. Ah yes and here’s a citizen John Taxpayer from People Place. It’s so generic it just sucks my interest out because no one would ever actually think of that.
"This is what happens when you watched 'The Beastmaster' too many times as a kid." What, you become a -- wait for it! -- FREAK WHO SPEAKS TO ANIMALS?! 😛
I had to drop both because the nihilism just became unbearable, but the comic seemed to do a better job progessing from a murder hobo fantasy to family/friends/community trying to rebuild their world. The TV doubled-down on and reveled in misanthopy which, IMO, is why this spinoff was so clunky. Why is it important to rebuild society when your special girl and boy are the only people that matter? If everyone else is cannon-fodder, blowing up the entire city with Rick+Michonne riding off into the sunset is just as valid as fixing the Civic Republic.
The comics are way better as is the Rise of the Governor novel. The Telltale Game is pretty good too, especially the first season. 👍 P.S. Can you do a video on Joseph McCarthy and the Anti-Communist Era of the 1950s if you hadn’t done one already? Peace ✌🏻
Oh Joseph McCarthy. A man so universally condemned, yet so universally proven to be correct. And then he met the same fate as General Patton. Killed by his own.
Wait there is a community of people who don’t like The Walking Dead? Wow thought I was the only one. I get such hate when I describe TWD as each successive season is jumping the guy that is jumping the guy, etc, that is jumping the shark.
I'd be really interested in hearing your ideas about Rainbow 6. Kind of the same idea, but the technocrats want to end the world with ebola leaving only right thinkers to enjoy the world.
@@feralhistorian the comic concludes not long after and the settlements integrate into an even larger society that survived and began rebuilding the old world including its structures but Rick's group manage to cause yet again another power struggle where they come out on top and create a proto socialist egalitarian society with rick as a martyr
I wouldn't mind seeing a walking dead show that takes place before and during the outbreak. Perhaps it follows an outlaw biker in Indiana after he went Nomad due to a falling out with the Club's prez or he was a member of the Outlaws MC and has decided to abandon their racist ideals but doesn't want to get killed over just straight up ditching the gang. Also, I'm curious about what happened to ADX Florence. It housed names like Ted Kaczynski, the boston bomber, the guy who took the first crack at the world trade center, the head of the Aryan Brotherhood.
In the flash forward at the end of the comics, a full 30 or so years later, they’ve just managed to restore a steam-powered transcontinental railroad. They’ve managed to recover to 1800’s levels of society, though really advanced stuff like computers they couldn’t maintain supply chains / expertise to manufacture. Most zombie hordes were gradually wiped out from attrition ( the survivors are careful to destroy the brains of their recently dead, so the zombies never increase from their numbers the first year of the outbreak). Not much detail but America is a loose confederation/alliance of growing regional states gradually coalescing together again.
That honestly sounds pretty reasonable. We would have engineers and mechanics who could follow plans for old trains and literal metric tonnes of good steel. Making a CPU on the other hand is a closely guarded secret and would require us to raid the right lab with the right person and somehow be able to transport all the equipment perfectly.
@@derp489 well not even a “secret” - just that modern production is such an interconnected web that if a FEW people are dead, but they were the only ones who knew how to manufacture one part, it can’t be made. Remember “Day of the Triffids” had a whole large theme on this (you have to know how to mine and forge your own plow from scratch). I MYSELF sure don’t know basic blacksmithing! I DO know how to assemble bullets from PREMADE materials, how to refill shotgun shells (and this puts me ahead of many who don’t)…but from premade gunpowder and premade primers! Do YOU know how to make ammo primers FROM SCRATCH?!
Id love a story thats set in a post-post zombie apocalypse. just a new world thats on the other end of all the drama. What would it look like? what new lines in the sand would be drawn between people?
@@JunjiItoDougWalker the book “World War Z”:
- the USA, Canada, and UK are hard hit but recover
- most of the US retreats into a safe zone west of the Rockies. A large survivalist enclave manages to survive in the Black Hills of Dakota, declare their secession after being abandoned.
- Islands do better, such as the UK and Cuba. Retreat from England to Scotland and Ireland then gradually retake England. Zombies never got a foothold in Cuba due to disproportionately large military for small island population.
- Continental Europe is even worse. Scandinavia was never cleared.
- Russia and China were absolutely devastated
- India manages to recover after retreating to Himalayas valleys.
- In the blind panic trying to stop infected refugees, Iran and Pakistan destroy each other in a limited nuclear exchange.
- so much of Eurasia was devastated that Russia, despite its apocalyptic losses, annexes much of it ( clearing regions lost to zombies)
- Israel survived because it was literally the only country to take warnings seriously, and built a massive perimeter wall.
Charles Babbage developed a steam engine powered ( one could use a pre industrial age windmill or water wheel) computer, called the "differential engine" in the early 1800s. He also developed binary computer language with the help of Ada Lovelace ( she's considered the first computer programmer). This was before the first American transcontinental railway.
That bird had some very salient points on how society might rebuild after an undead apocalypse, he said .22s and or Cattle Bolts would become common household items and cremation would replace burying our dead as the default.
You can't just tease a home movie without dropping it.
This
Agreed
I gave up on walking dead a couple episodes into season 5, when they kept repeating the same tired mantra: humans are the monsters. But this was interesting.
Lasted longer than I did
I tossed it into the trash after the pilot episode when they showed the next episode was Rick riding around trying to escape the zombies and one of them was carrying a fucking rock and trying to use it as a weapon
The pilot episode is one of the best post-world representations ever put to media, its just sad that muh zombies overrode the possibility of an accurate post apocalypse scenario.
Screw you Kirkman
@@victorkreig6089 In retrospect, I was far too patient.
@@victorkreig6089 Kirkman wrote the comic, the season 1 show runner was Frank Darabont. The comics are pretty good, and the Rise of the Governor novel is excellent as well.
I watched most of the pilot with my wife, many years in, as she had just joined a "watch party" group of friends and wanted to catch up. Honestly though, I was out before I ever started. I bartended on Sunday nights when new episodes would come out, and we'd put it on for lots of the patrons to watch. I caught the gist of Season 2 by osmosis and was so bored of the "something happens in the opener, walk aimlessly for the rest of the episodes, have a shocking death/reveal at the end to tease next season" that I hated the entire concept.
I have binged so much of your content in the last week. Honestly I love these analysis on ideologies and how they shape societies and people around them.
Thank you for expanding my view on some of my favorite pieces of media.
Same
I want to see a series about society trying to deal with the Return of the Living Dead zombies. That would be a nightmare.
I am incredibly glad that I've found this channel. It's probably one of the few remaining sources of good, valuable videos among a pit of slop that we call this website. Please, keep up the good work!
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I lost interest in the main show around the time Glenn met Lucille. I lingered until about the midway point of season 8 though. It was obvious they were going to meander through a lot of episodes before resolving the whole Alexandria/Hilltop vs The Saviors conflict.
My favorite stretch of the show was between the prison and Alexandria. The wandering survivors aspect kept things interesting, though I realize a story can only focus on that for so long. The reorganization phase of these events are rarely interesting to me mostly because the emphasis shifts from the zombies and the basic survival elements to other aspects. A personal preference to be sure. I will say TWD and its spin-offs are fairly unique as most zombie apocalypse stories don’t explore this far into the future after the fall of the old world.
Hello from me and the Somerset Ferrets here in little old airstrip 1, I wasn't going to ask until you mentioned beastmaster(thus proving you have a soft spot for ferrets) but is their any chance you have cast your eyes over Survivors the 1976 BBC tv series, it is available on RUclips I think you'd find it very interesting.
All the best and thank you for the videos.
I had completely forgotten about Survivors. Like most BBC shows when I was a kid, I saw a scattered handful of episodes, usually out of sequence. I'll have to give that soem attention.
I for one would love to see you give it the Feral treatment, the societies that rise and fall as the years run on pretty much cover the spectrum as I remember.
I'm definitely a Hubert, and coincidentally love in the next village to the Actor John Abineri till he sadly died. He liked ferrets too!
Wait a minute, we need to know what you were referring to at 3:24 mister
Yeah exactly
I don’t what’s scarier: that the military is operating without civilian oversight or that the civilian oversight is there but evil and working against you.
indeed we do
That stuff you're talking about at the end, wanting to see how the world evolves post zombie control is why I'd really love if they did a proper adaptation of World War Z as an Anthology series where each book chapter is a 1-1.5hr episode.
The World War Z world didn't break down quite as much as the Walking Dead world did, but still.
Oh great...now I'll have Tubthumping stuck in my head all day.
Never seen your channel before, but I am a major walking dead fan. Loved hearing you talking about the new spinoff in this way. I agree, I also want to see them delve into how sustainable the cities will become. With season 2 of Dead City focusing on kind of rebuilding New York we might actually be getting that.
So. Civic Republic is literally not-sees. Oh. Wow. Very creative. And deep. That's tell a lot about our society or something.
I've found that the Telltale Games Walking Dead Season 1 is the best combination of the Comic and Show
Telltale Season 1 is still one of the best games I’ve played. The rest of the series is good too, but the first was the best. 👍
Telltale Walking Dead Ranking:
Season 1
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This might not be the place for this discussion, but how the hell does the CRM exist in Philly but they have no idea the Commonwealth exists in Ohio. Ok
how is a post-apocalyptic city state in Philly projecting force into the pacific northwest enough to wipe out Portland?
You must tell us the secret to your eloquence. You are truly an enjoyable speaker, able to communicate complexity with brevity and clarity. Please go on making more content.
I'm just amazed they have functioning helicopters 14 years later. Those things are very maintenance intensive tend to break if you look at them funny . Not to mention where are they getting the fuel from?
Yeah, if we're being realistic they'd have a have a hard time keeping a diesel truck functional at that point.
Im just amazed that they have multi racialism and feminism and its just like whatever and causes zero problems lol
My wife makes jet fuel and I fly helicopters for a living so this is something I know a bit about. The fuel side would be surprisingly easy to do, but the helicopters would quickly become death traps without newly manufactured parts. BUT I used to fly a really odd helicopter from the 50s. How did my employer keep it flying without parts being made? They literally bought the entire military’s stockpile of parts in the 60s and are the only operators of the model flying a handful of aircraft 20-50 hours a year each. They still have enough parts to keep going for quite awhile…
Another feral Friday.
Love your channel, would love to hear you go over some of your favorite underdiscussed history
In my opinion - as a Walking Dead fan anyway -, the CRM was horribly written and comically evil, not to mention extremely rushed for their years of buildup, I wish they were less comically authoritarian and had more nuance to them.
Also is that a VSR-93 jacket? been looking for one forever lol
Agreed, the CRM could have been much more nuanced and interesting.
The jacket is legit VSR, I've _had_ it forever it seems like. No idea where to get one now.
Wrong show buddy ,CRM show was in world beyond
I put your videos on the background but sometimes I watch em, and I keep forgetting that your phenotype is crazy dude, i'm talking straight out of yakub's early prototype albino phase on the boat leaving mecca. Also were you in like an indie post apocalypse film or something, I'd definitely give it a watch.
You were in a postapo piece? Where can I find that? I do the same thing to my local wildlife. Too bad there were never any beast master crossovers.
The postapo piece: I think it's dead media now. It was a short that ran at two tiny festivals, was never distributed. Whether myself or anyone involved still has the final cut on a backup drive or DVD somewhere is an open question. If I find it, I'll post it.
@@feralhistorianplease do! Would be interested to see it.
@@feralhistorianlooking forward to it.
Dude, I love your channel.
Wait, what is this home movie about the apocalypse? The world needs it.
Perfect. Thought it was that time again... and there it was/is.
Someday I'm getting a Junta Beret
I would love to see you do a review the southern victory series aka timeline 101 by Harry Turtledove that would be very interesting
Yyyeeeessssss. Roanoke front was great, I still jokingly refer to tanks as 'barrels'with my friend who also enjoys his books
I always wanted an apocalypse survival without any extra drama. Just good decision making skills and "holy shit, I don't wanna die". I suppose that will never happen to my satisfaction cause what I consider good decisions, is not what others would consider good decisions.
Define 'extra drama.' The appeal for most people is the interactions, the drama, between the survivors as they decide what 'survival' means and what costs they're willing to shoulder to make it happen.
no! you will take their misanthropic out of place sudo nazi allegory and you'll LIKE it damn you!
@@boobah5643 The drama should be in the real interactions and real actions of the characters trying to handle the Apocalypse. Take the original series as an example. The story starts with the main character waking up at the hospital. And then, when he finally finds his family, his wife is sleeping with another man.
This is the perfect example of unnecessary extra drama that gets added to stories where it doesn't belong.
And this continues. More and more bloat and unnecessary nonsense gets added, while the actual premise gets pushed to the background.
@Hugebull If you were looking for an example I'd recognize, I'm afraid I'm one of the dozen or so people who have never watched _The Walking Dead._
My first thought is why wouldn't Protagonist's wife, in the middle of an apocalypse, separated from Protagonist with no reason to believe he's even still alive, move on?
@@boobah5643 First of all, she starts a relationship pretty much immediately after thinking her husband is dead. And second, this is a story that is written. The writers added this on top of the Zombie Apocalypse story for the purpose of padding scenes with drama that has no place. Instead of keeping the focus on what is going on, we have scene after scene, drama after drama, dealing with a love-triangle.
Love-triangles are 99% of the time, entirely implemented for manufactured drama. One may understand why they would start adding senseless drama by season 7. But when your first episode has it? Then something is seriously wrong with the foundation of the storytelling.
It is a symptom of a larger problem, where shows spend most of their time on needless and senseless drama, instead of actually dealing with the premise itself.
I'd watch a proper "nerd debate" TV show presented by FH.
He's a talented communicator and excellent writer.
But this is probably better (for us) because here he is beholden to no one and says whatever he really thinks.
Still... The man deserves a huge stack of cash and his thoughts to come out to a greater audience
I imagine the future of the walking dead universe is something like the movie Fido. All cities are walled ones with travel between them limited to armored guarded convoys or by airplane. The elderly and sick are placed under armed guard. Funerals are conducted by the state and involve the corpses being decapitated and bodies incinerated. And some industrious individuals are figuring out how to domesticate and make use of zombies as pseudo slaves.
The main thing I took from the Walking Dead series is that while it has hoards of walking dead, they at least have the excuse of being mindless. People on the other hand show themselves to be the real monsters.
New listener. Love the content. Wish i found you earlier. I hope the algorithm picks you up. Have you ever done (or considered doing) some of turtledoves books?
He can be a bit awkward (especially the sex scenes), but he clearly loves history and god that man clearly loves baseball, but he has a certain 'x' factor is you will...where I always cant wait to start the next book.
I haven't done much with Turtledove's books yet, though I've been intending to for a long time. the WorldWar series obviously, and I have a stack of notes about his Southern Victory series that need to be sorted through. And of course I'm going to bring up Guns of the South at some point.
@feralhistorian I love everything about this reply! Can't wait! Looking forward to next upload. Just started Draken series this morning from your recommendation
Thanks for the video
The dry delivery of the... "because they get back up again" got me so bad i had to pause the video 🤘😁🤙
Check out 2 series falling skies and The last ship
Falling Skies is a great journey but sadly it didn’t finish strong. The ending is disappointing.
@@theactionman8403 true but season 3 had a very interesting concept trying to build a nation when the are in the middle of a warzone
I haven't watched TWD in a decade, I don't even have a TV anymore
Yet another banger video. Can't tell you how much I enjoy your content.
The CRM had so much potential to open up the world of TWD on a global scale but they just dropped it. I guess it was nice to see Rick's story come to a satisfying conclusion but the potential to see a global network of societies, republics and civilizations adapting to a reality with walkers should be followed up on.
Can’t remember if it was said in the walking dead or not, but a likely thing that would happen is everyone always carrying a small .22 or that cattle gun thing you make cows brain dead with before slaughter. Just incase someone dies or one stumbles onto your property
Definetly not in the TV WD universe. These people can't even figure out how to re-invent spears. Why affix a pointy onto the end of a stick when you can engage a zombie within kissing range?
If you doing comics that have been turned into TV shows invincible is a finished series and has some really interesting things to say about alliances and covert actions between governments as well as their populations.
Also some really interesting stuff about eugenics, population decline, and societal PTSD through cultural conditioning.
Can you please give the video game We happy few a look? It’s a diamond in the rough gameplay wise yet it has an incredible story and characters! A lot of the story has enough to make you put the pieces together and is open to interpretation!
I enjoyed the original show up to a point. The gritty survival gave way to a mix of 80s war B movie, "the message" and soap opera. Would groups of people who know their resources and populations are finite really expend vast amounts of both in a fruitless conflict? It looks good on the screen though. They could have saved a lot of lives if they just got Rick and Negan together, gave them both a ruler, measured up and called it a day.
What do you think about Max Brooks World War Z?
I think it did a pretty good job at showing the realities of a Zombie Apocalypse.
Especially when Nations/People realized recreating the "Old World" was impossible and the only way to survive was to adapt to the "New" one.
The idea that North Korea would endure an Apocalypse better than any other modern country, is an idea I have taken for my own Apocalyptic/Post-Apocalyptic writing.
A Coronal Mass Ejection isn't going to do much... when you don't have any power to begin with.
It's been awhile since i read the book, but I remember enjoying it. I'd have to revisit it though to recall the details.
@@feralhistorian I would suggest the Audiobook version. It has a whole bunch of different people narrating the different characters being interviewed. Nathan Fillion voices one, although I forget who.
My mother was in Glasgow when they filmed the opening scenes...she got to watch
Speaking of dropping in on a world, TWD always reminded me of a TV version of Romero's first films, and TWD is akin to the Planet of the Apes TV show of the mid-70s. I'd like to see a reborn version of that show, w the old makeup, not CGI because it seems clear that the apes of the original quintet of films and those of the tv series are human-ape hybrids, as they are high on the Uncanny Valley scale in ways the more realistic CGI apes can never be. 2000 years of science experiments and radioactive mutation is a good premise for this hybrid ape form. Too bad the studios don't see the natural evolution of this trope and instead worry if they should link the 60s-70s Apeverse with the 21st C one. It should, and its an obvious way to do it, as I suggest. As for science? Ape-human hybrids are FAR more realistic than zombies.
I've watched several of your videos and checked the titles of the others. I would like to see you do a video about the Kim Stanley Robinson Three Californias Trilogy,which with it's examination of capitalism seems like your kind of thing.
I never read those, thank you for the reminder. They are on the (admittedly monstrously long) reading list now.
Given your love of dystopias I'm curious if you've seen A Man for All Seasons (1966). When you think about it it has some eerie dystopian overtones for what is meant to be a historical drama set in Tudor England.
case in point: ruclips.net/video/1Acvwko6Wd0/видео.html
I don't recall having seen it, but the clip has me interested.
@@feralhistorian "This isn't Spain you know, this is England!"
translation-"It can't happen here." :)
A great show
Can you cover the book “World War Z”? It’s one of my favorites; I met Max Brooks on three occasions and I have a signed copy.
I'm not sure when it's finally going to happen, but it's going to happen.
Ah, birds. I have some black cockatoos that have screeching sunrise debates outside my bedroom window. Songbirds they are not.
i dont see a problem with watching Beastmaster too many times... i don't know how many times is too many to watch beastmaser. :)
I think someone else has already mentioned this to you, but you should check out the low budget cult classic “Jeremiah” TV show from the early 2000s.
The most interesting thing about the show is the premise. It’s basically a post-post-apocalypse story where civilization collapsed about 15 or so years before the show starts. A planet wide plague which mysteriously killed everyone “over the age of innocence” if I remember the phrasing right.
I was waiting for your take on this installment of TWD, and it was well worth the wait!
Thanks!
369th like.
3:25 ... I would like to know more
I need an in depth analysis of why episode 2 of Daryl Dixon almost made me and my friend die laughing.
they trusted John Loche??? that damn smoke monster!
6:40
I hope they let the bad guys do that part
This show was really good because it was a sequel to the flagship show and it had a conclusive ending, something the walking dead is really bad at,the writing and acting was the best I've seen in the franchise
I think I caught the sarcasm
CRM is an interesting villain at least
Do you plan to make a video about the Commonwealth Saga?
The clean Wehrmacht trope is long indeed. It's ironic being one of the most brutal Nazi loyalist wasn't in the SS but the Heer. Ferdinand Schorner was lets say a butcher mostly of his own men, on a scale that would even horrify an SS General. Yet because most of his crimes were against his own troops during war time he kinda got off easy criminally.
It's often overlooked how loyal many German generals were to the Nation Socialist movement and were believers in the Nazi Cult. Young officers in particular were very indoctrinated into the Cult.
Yeah those old germans really have some blood, kind of like the old american indians. I guess all of it has been spent, though in that one war. they kind of died off after that, must be something with the food. Although their echo still live on, pretty strong maybe they'll break out. Only time will tell
@@The-future-is-in-the-past Well, that makes no sense. Blood? Food? Sounds like Ideobabble.
@Alte.Kameraden the food thing is just a hunch, hyper process foods are differently poison and even the europeans are dealing with obesity from it. As for their blood, I mean their fighting spirit, man. Despite the allies having more production and man power germany was still able to capture a lot of territory and hold out for a while. A lot of the German army still relied on horsepower, and their Air force was shattered, but they fought on. even after they perished, they influenced the state so much with their security apparatus and other doctrines, not to mention that many were just integrated into germany as NATO generals. For the losers in the war, that's a lot. I relate them to the old American Indian tribes because in the past they were barbarians compared to the mediterranean who had civilization. due to their harsh environment, they had to become a warrior people, for a time that memory lived on perhaps it still does is what I'm saying. With them rearming in the face of another war with russia, i wonder if we will see that warrior people again
What if I told you a bigger myth is the myth of dirty Third Reich
@@Alte.Kameraden "Blood alone moves the wheels of history!"
- Dwight Schrute. Assistant to the Regional Manager.
You should do a video on Conan the barbarian
I'm here to chew bubblegum and kick algorithms...and I'm all out of algorithms.
Hey hey hey,
it's "the science"Tm
Trust me you don't want fauci to come a knocking
Can u think about to make a analysis about Man in Black movie and The imigration?
What were you referring to in 3:24 ?
The civic Republic are 100% an Enclave derivative. Someone in TWD writer room must've been a big FO2 fan
7:30 That's what happened but why?
p.s. funny how they treat a CH-47 like a family SUV.
In all honesty I couldn’t ever get into The Ones who Live because I just couldn’t stand hearing “Civic Republic” and “CRM” all the time. Ah yes and here’s a citizen John Taxpayer from People Place. It’s so generic it just sucks my interest out because no one would ever actually think of that.
You should do a video on camp of the saints tbh
Nice
Put this on thinking it would be about the cinematic video game. You know, because your man in the high castle video didn’t reference the book?
3:20 wait is that literally you
"This is what happens when you watched 'The Beastmaster' too many times as a kid."
What, you become a -- wait for it! -- FREAK WHO SPEAKS TO ANIMALS?! 😛
I refer interested people to the World Economic Forum's plan The Great Reset.
I had to drop both because the nihilism just became unbearable, but the comic seemed to do a better job progessing from a murder hobo fantasy to family/friends/community trying to rebuild their world. The TV doubled-down on and reveled in misanthopy which, IMO, is why this spinoff was so clunky. Why is it important to rebuild society when your special girl and boy are the only people that matter? If everyone else is cannon-fodder, blowing up the entire city with Rick+Michonne riding off into the sunset is just as valid as fixing the Civic Republic.
CONVIDWORLD 😢
The comics are way better as is the Rise of the Governor novel. The Telltale Game is pretty good too, especially the first season. 👍
P.S. Can you do a video on Joseph McCarthy and the Anti-Communist Era of the 1950s if you hadn’t done one already? Peace ✌🏻
Oh Joseph McCarthy. A man so universally condemned, yet so universally proven to be correct. And then he met the same fate as General Patton. Killed by his own.
That was a solid joke.
Anyone else getting WEF parallels in this?
Wait there is a community of people who don’t like The Walking Dead? Wow thought I was the only one. I get such hate when I describe TWD as each successive season is jumping the guy that is jumping the guy, etc, that is jumping the shark.
I'd be really interested in hearing your ideas about Rainbow 6. Kind of the same idea, but the technocrats want to end the world with ebola leaving only right thinkers to enjoy the world.
I have to ask...Because I don't know. Was that you in a trench-coat walking in a field with a woman following you? And if so, what was it from...
Wow
Sounds like today's California 😢
Trying to bring back a past that never existed.
I mean, California used to be an awesome state
Oh no dont depopulate Portland Oregon 😂
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Nooooooooo the TV series isn't that good read the comic
I did read up through the Whisperer War, but fell off after that. I recall thinking the show fumbled some things badly, but did some others better.
Noooo. The comic is bad, listen to the morse code telegraph!
@@Emanon... no the morse code telegraph is bad, look at the tapestry.
@@feralhistorian the comic concludes not long after and the settlements integrate into an even larger society that survived and began rebuilding the old world including its structures but Rick's group manage to cause yet again another power struggle where they come out on top and create a proto socialist egalitarian society with rick as a martyr
The tapestry misses most of the essential details, listen to word of mouth straight from Robert kirkman@@alexandrub8786
I wouldn't mind seeing a walking dead show that takes place before and during the outbreak. Perhaps it follows an outlaw biker in Indiana after he went Nomad due to a falling out with the Club's prez or he was a member of the Outlaws MC and has decided to abandon their racist ideals but doesn't want to get killed over just straight up ditching the gang.
Also, I'm curious about what happened to ADX Florence. It housed names like Ted Kaczynski, the boston bomber, the guy who took the first crack at the world trade center, the head of the Aryan Brotherhood.
This was a very pointless 10 minutes
7:21 cucked and bluepilled take from a guy who's afraid to criticize the powers that be