VLADIMIR HARKONNEN The Baron Harkonnen DUNE EXPLAINED
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- VLADIMIR HARKONNEN The Baron Harkonnen DUNE EXPLAINED
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen, commonly known as the Baron Harkonnen, is one of the most notorious and enigmatic characters in Frank Herbert's epic science fiction saga, Dune. As the penultimate ruler of House Harkonnen, he wielded immense power and became the chief architect in the political turmoil that engulfed the universe during the reign of Shaddam IV. His life and legacy are marked by intrigue, cunning, cruelty, and an unquenchable thirst for power.
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I was just thinking to myself I missed when H used to do lore videos like back on the good old days, glad he’s back at it!
I've done a lot recently? Guess no notifications have been sent
Back when it was mostly Hellraiser--really great times.
Nice touch adding his possession in children of dune
These, your Alien, Predator, and Cthulhu explanations are gold. Thank you for making them.
Great video
However you forgot to mention the Dune mini series version of the character
Alejandro Jodorowsky's Dune. He and Giger created Harkonnens castle on storyboard.
He also built and very creepy skull-throne for the Emperor, which is still on display in Giger's house, since its a museum now
Love the new intro mans! and as always the content is immense - Thank you.
Love seeing you getting back to your roots with these types of videos!
Easily one of the best and most feared villains in sci fi. The man is an absolute demon.
I miss these type of videos Mr. H :)
Your lore videos are still your best videos!
The retro Mr H introoooooo!
Love this stuff
As a fan of the film n lore it's useful as I haven't read the books
Hopefully with the Emperor played by Walken, we'll get more scenes in part 2
Cheers
Denis Villeneuve cut a lot out of the first film that would have made people truly hate the Baron.
Really? can you give details, as the Baron came off to me as non threatening and mediocre
@@Floyd1138 I rather not spoil for those who haven’t read the book. Suffice to say that some scenes show what a monster the Baron truly is.
i think its a bit late for spoilers, the book its like 60 years old and we have all seen the movies@@uss_cushing
@@Floyd1138
He’s a sexual deviant and it’s implied he’s a p3dophile.
Yeah, he’s a monster in the book.
I’ve read the book 3 times.
@@Floyd1138 True however me describing the baron’s depravity and cruelty lessens the impact that reading the book has. And no we have not seen all the books in movie form.
He’s such a great villain, Herbert effectively brings him back! He’s such a dick. He’s basically the palpatine of Dune.
MORE! More evergreen lore videos!!
love these oldschool mr h style explained videos!
I really wish they made the Baron a bit more disgusting, deplorable and cruel in the movie. That was always one let down of the otherwise great movie. I do get that they wanted him to be this mysterious threat looming in the background, so hopefully we’ll see more of what makes him so hated in part two
Thing is, this is what he's supposed to be like, or at least closer to what he's like in the books. He's supposed to be a genius intellect and a brilliant politician. He loves his luxury and while he is ruthless and can be cruel, he personally hates violence because he considers it beneath him. The closest to a book accurate depiction of the Baron, is in the Sci-Fi Channel Dune Mini-Series, which despite the micro-budget, is probably the most accurate adaptation of the books so far.
You've got a good voice, Nate H. You should do more with it.
I missed these lore videos
I've done a lot lately, you guys haven't been notified
In the book he is one of the most evil sick bastard in the Frank Herbers dune.
Two days ago, i saw the 1984 Dune and wow! it's an underappreciated gem. The baron guy is kinda ugly gay pedo in that movie which add more creepiness to the mix. The special effects are a little off but the acting and the entire atmosphere and exotic nature balance the shortcomes very well👍
i prefer it to villeneuve's version, the world building and design is simply better
Lynch hated making the movie, and it really shows by the 2nd half. It's fun & weird and visually arresting because of its weirdness, but the Villeneuve version is better by basically every metric.
The guy behind Twin Peaks was not made to direct sci-fi epics about interstellar politics combined with feudal warfare.
@@ephraimwinslowI believe Lynch hated that he didn't have full directors cut.
The scenography is fantastic. Rooms, instruments etc
Spaceship with roman style opening.
Dukes dogs.
Etc etc.
Also the best witch ever, Sian Philips. Also in I, Claudius.
Good Brian Eno thememusic.
Villeneuves version is banal and boring.
@@Slumbert
Lynch is on record saying he hated prettymuch everything about making that movie.
"Dune took three years to make start to finish. Um... but it was a nightmare. And...... it was a nightmare."
(Also basically every pro you listed save the score can be filed under "fun & weird and visually arresting because of its weirdness" like I initially said.)
@@ephraimwinslow okay, didn't know he said that.
Fun and weird..... well maybe using old european paintings and tales, comic books and scifi from 30s-70s, dreams on LSD, historic novels like Ivanhoe, fantastic woodwork, new haircut on witches, touch of Barbarella Italian 70s style etc etc.
For me he just created his own world. And it became cult. Villeneuves Dune just looks like many other scififilm. Also bad casting.
Mr H lore video's are the best!!!
The Baron was so underwhelming in Viilleneuve's version. Lack luster and non threatening, the only hint to his depravity and cruelty was the new addition to Dune's lore, a Villeneuve idea.... the giant human rubber sex spider.
Yeahhh, around the point where you claimed that Stellan Skarsgard in full on King Arthur mode is non-threatening, ya lost me in perpetuity.
You feeling threatened by that character's actions and words in this movie says more about you than me lol@@ephraimwinslow ;king arthur mode' wasnt he know for his chivalry and good deeds. ? bad reference bud
@@Floyd1138
Bro, you've already lost me. Don't bother.
its ok if you are threatened by fat people@@ephraimwinslow they wont eat you or did you want more screentime for the rubber sex spider?
Presumably, you preferred the David Lynch version, where the Baron is this screaming human pustule.
Love the lore video, glad there back ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ
Hes just a dude floating his best life, give free Healthcare
Coool
As cliche as exposition dump speeches in the beginning of Syfy movies are this movie really needed a few minutes of someone just explaining the whole universe and everything before the film started. There's a lot of it that I only now understand after watching the movie and then looking into the universe more. I had a very brief run down of it that helped a lot but there's so much more to it that needed to be explained. But I felt like the movie was already a little bit slow at times and should have ended after the fall of their house. The events afterwards felt like it was the beginning of the second movie and felt way too long after the movie basically already had the climax. Let people wonder if hark is dead or not until the next movie. I just finally watched it the other day and I'm learning more about the universe in preparation for the next movie and thinking about tryna find a way to listen to the books while I work or something.. so much they showed in the movie but didn't really explain that I feel actually really makes the universe unique and stand out from other Syfy dystopian universes. Like the mentats they showed the one guy and didn't explain it at all. I looked into it after and learned about how it's actually 24 thousand years after present day earth and not just 10 thousand. 10 thousand years ago is when the computers were defeated and the new calendar began with the rise of a imperium and everything. The people are now bio computers like super smart math people lol. Idk if they rely on spice to achieve this or not as they don't have blue eyes. I'd like if they explained it a little bit at least. Instead of making people wonder if the guy was a robot or something.. also I've learned about the navigators how they use spice and have to live in a cloud of it at all times. All these things they could have explained and shown and only taken a few seconds. These kinds of things are what really makes this dune universe unique and worth exploring. Otherwise it just feels a little too much like another star wars kinda deal.. I find the universe itself the most fascinating. The rest of it is basically just standard Syfy stuff we're already used to. Regardless of if dune did it first technically or not. It's the way the universe functions and everything that makes dune so unique interesting and special. In the movie it just kinda downplayed these elements of the world and without it all it just feels a little standard and bland.. the universe itself is so rich and interesting how it's futuristic yet almost medieval with the way it's like Egyptian pharaohs and Roman emperors running slaves and crusades across space itself. It lacks the unified humanity almost military aspect most universes have. There's no space marines all from other countries fighting to save humanity from aliens. It's the worst of humanity spreading its cancer across the universe. Technology is hindered by greed and control. Even for the royalty their existence it harder than ours now. They can cross the universe but poverty and servitude are dominant. There's no luxury or joy. There's no recreation or hobbies. Wether they're rich and powerful or poor slaves everyones existence is survival and dominance. It's futuristic yet primitive...
Basically? Imagine the Planetary Governors from 40k if they actually mattered. That's the nobles from the Landsraad. And Vladimir is the single meanest one out there.
(That's the one thing I wish GW had done a better job of stealing from Dune TBH. 'Cuz for people who have tenure as the *supreme executive officers* of an entire planet/star system? They get overshadowed and/or chumped way too often, to the point where the only example most 40k fans can name is a deliberate joke whose entire character arc consists of screw ups.)
All of the Harkonnens are interesting
I wonder how the Baron would stand up to Palpatine if they were in the same universe? Would they see thru each others schemes and power plays.
In the book he is one of the most evil sick bastard in the Frank Herbers Duan.
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The new Baron was a pretty dull character, Villeneuve maybe should have read the book before making a film of it !!
Heaven forfend they make the character brooding & intense as opposed to flamboyant & foppish.
(Almost like they wanted him to be taken seriously as an antagonist rather than becoming a glorified joke like he was in basically every other adaptation.)
@@ephraimwinslow The new film version isn’t what he’s like in the novel, most of the characters aren’t, Villeneuve seems more bothered about framing everything as a wide shot but can’t be arsed with any of the characters!!
@@andrewglazebrook1585
You're a couple miles shy of the point, but that's OK.
You clearly have zero interest in actually discussing/thinking about any of this stuff, you're just stuck on the perceived blasphemy of not adapting a book you like exactly how you pictured it in your imagination.
Have fun with that, I guess.
It's Villeneuve who touted himself as the Dune aficionado, yet Lynch seemed to have a better grasp of it's characters and distinct worlds. And as for sticking to the book Lynch made many changes, to which Frank Herbert gave his blessing. If you like the new version great stuff, it just wasn't the Dune I wanted to see. @@ephraimwinslow
@@andrewglazebrook1585you’re an idiot sandwich mate 👍
How come he can fly
The best on-screen version of the Baron Harkonnen, was Ian McNeice in the tv mini-series.
In the book, the Baron is a scheming, decadent, sadistic p*do.
The Villeneuve version was just dull af, a great actor like Skarsgard completely wasted.
Hell, he was barely in the movie!
Was about to say this, its surprising that the mini series is still the most faithful in many aspects.
This last one felt more tired than threatening, and its a damn shame that they don't do his banther with Piter.
The Barron in the 2021 film was not fat enough !
He should have been twice as Fat
HADOUKEN!