Aussiecams - Poor road design or Poor Manners? What do you think? Coorparoo QLD
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This clip is a talking point rather than any issue!
Dashcam driver is in a line of peak hour traffic and the traffic stops blocking the path of an AUDI driver trying to turn right!
The dashcam driver first of all realises there is no KEEP CLEAR markings and is trying to turn right approx 20 meters up the road but traffic stops and the path for the AUDI is blocked from turning. The audi becomes aggressive almost immediately, at one stage the dashcam driver starts to reverse and the driver continues to toot so the reverse is aborted!
Intersection Kitchener and Cavendish Coorparoo QLD
POOR ROAD design or Poor manners what do you think?
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Audi driver should have simply turned left and found an alternate route to where he needed to go.
Exactly. I do this all the time, so much easier than having to cross 2-3 lanes of traffic especially when its peak like this.
Indeed. Typical "Audiot" driver.
Shoulda left a gap so he could pull out and get cleaned up by oncoming traffic....
Exactly what I was thinking 😂
😂 That would have taught him what the word stop sign mean.
Trouble with that is he gets hit and pushed into you.. then cops rule you to be wrong for letting it hapoen
Audi driver should be thanking DC driver for saving his car but that's too little entitlement for an Audi driver
Every driver is selfish that is why traffic flow is so bad. People should start watching some Ashley Neil RUclips videos
Audi driver thinks his shit don't stink and he owns the road he's on a stop or giveway sign therefore he has to wait untill the road is clear in front of him not expect you to make way for him.
I used to live a few hundred meters up the road, it’s a horrible intersection. I used to avoid it where possible. Having said that there was no need for the Audi driver to be on the horn, that was totally out of line.
That's right. If it's a horrible intersection, you can just avoid it. If you don't know it's a horrible intersection, then you just have to suck it up and avoid it next time.
I've lost count of how many times I've been through there. Stresshead AUDIot had a few choices to avoid trying to get out of there. Not too switched on, if they're a local.
AUDIot would have better served themselves going the other way, turning left onto French Street, left around the bend into Jellicoe Street to a set of lights at Cavendish Road, then turning whichever way the like from there. Alternatively, right onto French, to a set of lights, turn right onto Old Cleveland Road, through the lights at Cavendish Road (can't turn right), turn right at the next lights into Harries Road, right into any of the next few streets, back to Cavendish Road. Either way would be way quicker & less stressful for them.
@@KevinD_33x150 yep 100% defo better options.
@@elchinofatman1 👍👍
Sometimes the cards don't fall the way you would like. There's no point having a tantrum. If that situation happened all the time to that driver, they could simply go a different way. There are lots of options according to Google maps.
It’s just a normal road. There’s no way they can safely turn out between waiting traffic. They have to wait their turn.
The Audi was an impatient C.NT. I would have loved for him to enter and get collected by a car comming through.
I always keep clear of any intersection. The favour is often returned.
I always leave the intersection clear even if theres no signage, but the Audi driver was rude and happy to block trafic as well so, fair bump play on.
As there was no Keep Clear zone on the road, it was plain rude of the Audi driver to push their way through and lay on the horn.
Intersectons don't require a keep clear zone - it's a road rule that you don't enter an intersection when your exit from the intersection is blocked.
@@wandpj unfortunately that’s just completely wrong. It’s a T intersection for the Audi. They are required to give way to all traffic before entering. The DC driver is under no obligation to give way. The way you can tell here is the lack of give way or other signage directing the DC driver (or other drivers on the road) to do so. Too many people assume everyone else has to give way to them when entering a road.
@@wandpj Yeah no mate, thats not how that road rule works. This was a through road and not controlled by signs or lights.
@@visiontime6260 No, it's actually completely right. Queensland Road Rules s. 128 says, "A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked." The rule applies to any vehicle at any intersection, regardless of whether it has right of way.
@@Aerhgad1 no, it's completely right, there is no mention in the law of any lights or markings being required.
128 Entering blocked intersections
A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not
drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a
road beyond the intersection, is blocked.
Maximum penalty-20 penalty units.
Example-
The intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, may be blocked by
congested traffic, a disabled vehicle, a collision between vehicles or
between a vehicle and a pedestrian, or by a fallen load on the road.
Poor manners
I tend to let people out by sitting back, but that road looks to busy at that time for a right hand turn. I’d have turned left and worked around. Regardless, in the absence of a ‘keep clear’ zone, you can’t demand to be let out, you can only hope to get out if it is clear. The Audi seems entitled, and rude. If you let him out he’d probably have hit a car coming the other way.
This is where I say NOPE.
I am more surprised the Audi has the indicator on
Just reverse a little and let the Audi out and then get the last laugh when the Audi gets hit by one of the vehicles going straight ahead 😆
then you get hit as well!
Entitled Audi driver, not poor road design. It would be lost on the Audi driver that he pulled into the intersection from his stop intersection, blocking the left hand lane and expecting the dashcam driver not to block his/her path. Stuff them.
@@johnnichol9412 found the audi driver
Two lane roads have no keep clear requirement because it is unsafe
@@AnotherDoug Audi driver is breaking the law by using their horn in a non emergency situation. Also that is not an intersection covered by that law, that is a side street that must give way at all times
@@Caraxian what part of rules 128 exempts side streets? You do know the definition of an intersection don't you?
that's why in some countries the general road law states you cannot block an intersection, even if it does not have keep clear zone...
@@AnotherDoug If you have the keep clear zone, people tend to think that you do not need to keep clear without the zone...
Yet again we have different rules for different states in Aus. That rule of keeping these intersections clear when you are on a major road, is idiotic and causes so many accidents. If you have to keep all these intersections clear, the panel beaters will be over run with work and the govt corporation will be rubbing their grubby little hands together with all the fines they are going to collect on.
If the road you are on is a terminating road, then you should not be able to proceed unless the way is clear both ways. Expecting to be able to push your way into traffic is not 'the law' and nor is it covered by insurance. In WA, not much of this exists. There are some instances where intersections have been marked, but the rest are unmarked and when there is a traffic build up, it is tough luck for the cars on side roads. They have to wait till the traffic clears or if a generous driver allows them in front of them, which is what normally occurs.
Clearly the Audi driver is an impatient and entitled driver thinking he/she can just barge into an intersection and force their way across and everyone on the road must obey their command when they beep their horn. Seems that Audi, BMW and Merc drivers are the most obnoxious and aggro drivers on the road. They always seem to think they own it and can break any rule or law at will and think they are not to be held to account. I'm glad this guy stood his ground and only moved when the traffic ahead moved.
Same rule applies in all States.
@@johnnichol9412 In all my years of driving in WA both metro area and country, that rule you have quoted has never been used or even exists, as far as I know and I have driven to a lot of places in my state. If there is a main road and the traffic is heavy, then it's bad luck for the side roads. They have to wait till the traffic is clear. If you expect there to be big gaps left for people to enter and run the gauntlet thus causing an accident, then your traffic jam that is already hundreds of meters long will end up kilometres long. This is probably why it is not enforced or simply doesn't exist here in WA. Keeping open intersections for a terminating suburban road, on a main road, is idiotic and will only cause accidents, which we see hundreds of videos of on youtube.
@@johnnichol9412 thats the QLD rules, but all states have the same thing, only the penalty amount varies.
@@johnnichol9412the Audi driver is at a stop sign and this isn't an intersection where that rule would apply as the side street terminates there at the stop sign. The cam driver could have been courteous and let the audi out but the Audi driver is at a stop sign and must give way and has illegally blocked the traffic.
AUDI -Another Useless Driver Inside
When I leave my gas station, I got the same issue:
It's a two lane inner city road and I want to go right (I am from Germany, so for Australians, it's like going left and think mirrored from now on).
Speed limit there is 70km/h and in Germany the maximum speed often is the advised speed aswell, if there are no special conditions, like ice or fog for example.
Many times, the only cars driving there are driving in the right lane. In Germany we something like a "Drive Right Demand", but not in Cities. Many people don't know this or don't care.
The left lane is free and in those cities with multiple lanes, you are allowed to overtake from right aswell. Even if there would be no such thing - what is stopping you from beeing thoughtful and nice to other people, if your actions don't have consequences for anyone else?
If every car is still driving in the right lane and don't let's me out, I start honking aswell, from about the 3rd car on (only if the left lane is free and they can change lanes).
Here comes the funny thing: I am not in the wrong with this.
German law also demands completely unsepcified, that you always have to drive thoughtful, defensive and social to every other traffic participant. Long story made short: You can be juristically correct and still be in the wrong. In this case, as I already asked previously: What stops you from driving in the left lane there and let me out? Nothing - exactly! So in fact, I can even go to the police and denounce them for disregarding unspecified traffic rules (which results in something like "blocking me in traffic").
Just an impatient audi driver
In the interest of traffic flow, it was an opportunity for the Audi to get a right turn without having to contend with traffic flow from his right ... I would have left him a gap & even given him the thumbs up if his way was clear. All that is hypothetical if you're going to be a dick and get on the horn though. People need to keep their emotions in check.
not an intersection, its a side street that converges on a main road. The main road doesnt have to yield to traffic entering from the side. The entering traffic must yield, especially given theres a stop sign. Pretty sure audi guy would get KO'd by highway patrol if they saw him doing that. Given he drove through his Stop when it was not clear and then proceeded to block traffic.
It very much is an intersection, and rule 128 says you must not block an intersection. Audi was discourteous with the horn, but DC broke rule 128.
"intersection" means the area where 2 or more roads (except any road-related area) meet, and includes-
(a) any area of the roads where vehicles travelling on different roads might collide; and
(b) the place, other than a road-related area, where a slip lane between the roads meets the road into which traffic on the slip lane may turn.
128 ENTERING BLOCKED INTERSECTIONS
A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked.
Penalty-
Maximum penalty-20 penalty units.
It's called a T intersection according to Queensland roads with the Audi having to give way to traffic in both directions.
@@lesstockley4937the signs are clear, there was no obligation for the DC driver to give way. In fact it can be extremely dangerous for the Audi driver if someone does give way because the oncoming traffic may not be able to see them.
@@mandalorian4833 And it is an intersection which you are not allowed to block. Therefore the Audi could pass through the intersection if the cammer was stopped and the road was free from the left.
@@michaelscarport lol. It's an intersection by any definition.
If I was the DC driver, as soon as the AUDI used the horn, it was game over there was no way they were getting through. Just bloody rude!!!
And that's exactly what's happened
Well, you make it sound like if they do not use the horn, you would let them through. Excuses for noobs who can't drive.
The cammer was bloody rude to block the intersection. Audi was understandably impatient. You don't see an idiot on the road everyday.
Considering the break in the line is on the entrance to Kitchener not the exit, is the Audi driver illegally crossing a solid line? If you go to street view in Kitchener 2 car lengths back you would be crossing a solid line turning right.
pause it at 24 sec, you can see the gap for the Audi. And if there wasn't a gap the Audi can still right right across a single line.
There is a gap for people turning right from the opposite direction, yeah.
In Queensland, you cannot cross a solid white centre line for any reason.
So if the intention of the markings is turn left only, then it's badly signed.
@@lesstockley4937 So the DC'er on the arterial road should have let in the Audi on a side street who had a stop sign? I hope you wouldn't give way in those circumstances.
@@PiikachUwU_OSRS in QLD you can cross a single solid line to turn right to enter or leave a road.
From QLD Roads
Single continuous line
You can cross a single continuous centre line to enter or leave a road, including entering or leaving a property, and to safely pass bicycle riders.
@@joandsarah77 the DCer having regard for rule 128 to not enter a blocked intersection should have left a gap, just as it should if someone was wanting to turn right into that side street, if the DCer traffic was flowing normally then no, the Audi has to wait for the traffic.
Probably courtesy to not block the intersection...drivers coming toward you and turning need to get through. As for the Audi, probably safer that they couldn't go, as it's almost impossible for them to see what's going the other way.
@@AnotherDoug Audi driver is blocking the intersection also.
@@AnotherDoug Not only in the forward direction, but cars wanting to tuen into the street where the Audi is, cannot becasue DC is blocking that entry.
He can't even see if it's safe to go because of the Tarago. "...If I can't see what's there it must be good to go"
Bloody Audiot. Some yup in a hurry to his nightly office shift perhaps.
The Audi driver is wrong there is no keep clear because you can't see the traffic coming on the right, how many times have people doing what the Audi is crash into the traffic coming
I see the roadmonitor is up to old tricks again?
Thought I recognise the voice
How many time have you seen someone being wiped out when view is limited like the Audi driver
Is the Audi driver allowed to turn right there over an unbroken line?
Yes, besides anyway there is a gap for that turn you can see at 24 sec.
not allowed to cross a solid line that street should have a left only sign
There is actually a broken line. And I'd bet there is not a 'no right turn' sign from where the Audi was coming from.
Looks like the facebook page has similar for and against comments! 😂
Yes Michael, whenever these type of clips are posted it does get the comments section going on facebook and youtube
Everyone knows not to block a car when the traffic banks up. The fact that there's no keep clear sign or an Audi is involved is irrelevant.
Nah just arrogant Audi driver can’t wait couple minutes. Side roads have give way
That one, in fact, has a stop sign, so even moreso than just a give way. There's also the fact there isn't a slip lane or median for the Audi to safely pull into, and they would be pulling blindly into potential oncoming traffic.
@@AnotherDoug LOL legally enter and then in the same sentence you say blocked. Thus negating Audis legal right to enter. Learn some basic comprehension skills
@@JohnAsquith-ey6ld so you agree the DC blocked the intersection, thus breaking rule 128?
Vision car stopped in an intersection which is illegal.
Courtesy would let ahdi through.
Poor manners from both parties. In peak hour, I always leave a gap at side streets for people to move thru - common courtesy. (I'm a professional driver by trade also)
What is an "intersection?" Where does one begin and end? Are you only required to "clear" an intersection if it's a 4-way or only if it's marked on the ground (as by limit lines or crosswalk markings)? Is there some other way of determining what is in or out of an intersection? Are you only obliged to "clear" an intersection if there's a traffic control device (traffic light, stop sign or whatever) controlling traffic in your direction? I don't know the local laws, so I can't answer the question of the video's title.
Luckily the defifition of intersection is included in the road laws.
"intersection" means the area where 2 or more roads (except any road-related area) meet, and includes-
(a) any area of the roads where vehicles travelling on different roads might collide; and
(b) the place, other than a road-related area, where a slip lane between the roads meets the road into which traffic on the slip lane may turn.
Incorrect. Australian driving rule 128-Entering blocked intersections: -
"A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver cannot drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked."
Blocking a section like that is not good. I've been caught out by people doing exactly what the DC did while trying to get our ambulance up a side street on a priority call. I'm a paramedic not a traffic engineer but can't see any issues with the street layout/design. As for the Audi laying on the horn, well that's an infringement under the Queensland Transport Operations Regulation 2009.
Blocking an intersection is also an infringement.
Pretty sure the dashcam driver would have reversed back for an ambulance under lights / siren. It was more that (a) There was limited space behind and (b) The audi was being a bully which didn't go down well.
I was privy to the unedited video.
One thing you've got to remember about an ambulance is they (1) have special privileges [i.e. can drive on the wrong side of the road, you have to give way to them when they are lights / siren] , (2) They are easy to spot (big meat wagon with flashing lights / siren), (3) Most people will go out of their way to let them through [more than they would cops / fire engine]
@@AnotherDoug I would suggest googling "qld road rules giving way" and looking the the QLD transport link. It lists why you're wrong here.
Repeating the same flawed argument throughout all the comments wont make it right.
Ps There are even videos on the transport site showing the give way rules (in case you don't understand the text)
@@roadmonitoroz so you don't think rule 128 applied to you here? Why would that be, because it's an intersection and you blocked it. If you are going to rely on one rule and ignore another that makes you no better than what you are claiming others are doing.
@@AnotherDoug other driver should also had NOT entered the intersection as well
Audi trying to blind turn through stopped traffic is a recipe for an accident. Special combo of bad design and an impatient bad driver.
your rear camera shows plenty of room to reverse?
Probably does, but they don't want to show that...😉
@@BareFootDuck the rear camera is in the top right of the screen showing plenty of room to move back
That has been like that since 1982 that i know of it is bad design but also the audi also was full of his own importance cause anyone that traveks that area regularly knows its like that and he had used the side streets to get out of witing at the lights at the main road 100 m up the road
If I’m in the Audi I would not turn right there.
A driver at an intersection with a stop sign or stop line, but without traffic lights, must stop and give way in accordance with this rule.
It is a road like a billion others, wait your turn or find another way !
Sounds like you don't know the road rules.
@@wandpj A summary of the key road rules for giving way in Victoria.
...
You must give way to any vehicle already in, entering or approaching an intersection.
the more expensive the car
the less time they have for us mere mortals.
and the less they have to follow the road rules.
apparantly
@@AnotherDoug Its a T intersection not an intersection. Learn the rules
I don't know about Queensland, but in NSW " You must not enter an intersection unless there’s space for your vehicle in your lane on the other side of the intersection. This includes all intersections and crossings, including intersections with traffic lights, railway level crossings and pedestrian crossings." The cammer blocked the intersection - wrong!
This is a T section and the DC is on an arterial road. The Audi is on a side street with a stop sign.
Cam driver isn't in an intersection? Audi driver has driven through a stop sign which is visible on the street view and blocked the traffic. Cam driver had no obligation to let the Audi through, he could of been courteous and done so but he didn't have to
Nope. At a T Intersection, the driver entering the arterial road is required to give way to the traffic already on the road. Maybe you could let the Audi out, but he's risking his car turning into traffic like that.
@@lowricusack4635 T Intersection isn't an intersection?
Knowing the junction was probably using it as a rat run, or leaving work after parking on the side street. Either way the Audi should know better.
There is a law that states that you can not block an intersection.
And people wonder why there is so much aggression on the roads. A reasonable person would let someone through, an asshole would block them.
Please everyone watch Ashley Neil. Makes everyone a better driver.
Need to make that road NO right turn during peak hours. Dangerous to peak out unsighted oncoming traffic.
I always have the mindset that if I need to make a right into a two lane road in peak hour I might as well go left and flip around else where so I don’t have to wait for 5 minutes and take risky gaps
I totally understand the frustration the Audi has, but it’s not like Cam owner was in any fault either
you don't think the DC broke this rule?
128 ENTERING BLOCKED INTERSECTIONS
A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked.
Penalty-
Maximum penalty-20 penalty units.
The incident has a lot of ambiguous ground. If it clearly mark out a "keep clear" zone then things would've gone out a lot simpler.
But it seems unfair to me for blaming DC while there are very little to indicate there was an intersection. Sure it's easy for us backseat driver here to notice, but when you're on a busy road AND trying to make a right, meaning you're more likely to have your focus on the right side of the road, it's surprisingly common for law abiding drivers to miss that.
@@long42950this is the reason why traffic flow is so bad. How about people watch some Ashley Neil RUclips videos who is a professional driving instructor that analyses every event sent to him. Makes you a better driver.
@@lesstockley4937 Audi driver had been blocking the intersection as well as nobody in the left hand lane can go straight ahead.
@@Enthusiastic-Trainspotter-BNE you can see in the rear view no one attempted to use that left lane for a good 45 seconds. Audi would have been long gone if DC didn't block them.
After reading the actual legislation the Audi is indeed entering an intersection, a T-Intersection. With that fact established there is now this pesky *Part 11, Division 1, Section 128* road rule in most states, including QLD, which nearly everyone ignores, forgets or just plainly doesn't care about. Looking at those *Range Danger drivers*. This rule was broken by both vehicles. The cammer could not exit the intersection as it was blocked. The cammer right turn is a whole new intersection where he is permitted to enter, following the give way rules, as the road beyond (the side street) was clear.
_Part 11, Division 1, Section 128 - Entering blocked intersections_
_A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked._
_Maximum penalty-20 penalty units._
*Example -*
_The intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, may be blocked by congested traffic, a disabled vehicle, a collision between vehicles or between a vehicle and a pedestrian, or by a fallen load on the road._
Section 67 deals with giving way at T-Intersections but only refers to vehicles entering or travelling (ie moving) in the intersection as section 128 would be in affect otherwise. The Audi then broke this rule after the cammer moved on.
Where does he expect you to go? Drive around or reverse? There is no keep clear so no, you are waiting and he will have to wait too.
A keep clear sign is not required. This rule applies to all intersections: 128Entering blocked intersections
A driver must not enter an intersection if the driver can not drive through the intersection because the intersection, or a road beyond the intersection, is blocked.
@@wandpj It's not an intersection, the road DC wants to turn onto is a short way past the road the Audi is on.
@@joandsarah77 seriously? How is where 2 roads meet not considered an intersection on your planet?
That a stop sign there why that audi car keep moving?
Leaving gaps for people like that in traffic is what causes accidents. I think the dash cam driver made the right decision, no point getting caught up in someone else's mess.
A bot of both. Probably should have left space for the Audi driver to get through, but it doesnt always turn out that way. The Audi driver on the other hand should not have aimed directly at your car but should have tried for the big space in front of you and maybe you had room to go back a little, or the car in front could go forward a little. Either way, people are generally going to be more helpful to you if you dont keep honking your horn at them. I say 50 -50, each pays own damage
He blocks the road to complain about you blocking the road.
So who blocked the intersection first?
Don't choke the intersection and there is no problem.
Don’t drive out and block a lane to cause another problem and there is even less problem
NSW road rules are not to block an intersection,also it’s common curtesy.that said they are only car drivers
That is a T intersection completely different.
@@JohnAsquith-ey6ld How is a T intersection different? it's an intersection, the road rule applies to intersections.
Suppose to give to the right & heavier trafficked road, unless signs say otherwise.
@@AnotherDoug Stop defending the Audi driver will you, they also broke the law by blocking off the left-hand lane, meaning that nobody in that lane could travel straight through.
So driving along and traffic come to a stop dc finds themselves in an awkward situation, the Audi driver deliberately drives forward blocking a lane of traffic, it’s easy to see who the knob is here. Dc could have done something different but they are not entirely at fault but the Audi driver is completely at fault and was an utter moron. If I was in the dc I wouldn’t have moved either after that and would have had words with the Audi driver thats sitting there on their horn.
You do realize that the horn blasting and aggressive behaviour was all the Audi right ?
Have words with the Audi driver ? Then you'll get a bolo for "intimidating / threatening drivers"
Ya your in the right BUT would have been nice to let him through would not have hurt you !!!!
@@AnotherDoug so did the other driver mate, they entered a blocked intersection and blocked the road
One day that Audi driver will beep at the wrong person. There are some unstable people out there.
If I was the DC, leave enough gap, wave at Audi to stop with my palm and wait for my signal to proceed because he has no chance of clearing without vision of the oncoming traffic. Or the Audi should have turned left and made his way back.
Never do that, never make decisions for other drivers. If things go wrong, they may well lawyer up and you could be found at least partially liable. The best bet is to be the constant in the equation, not the variable. Let them make their decisions, you stick with yours.
Do not give any hand signals or other messages to the other driver. If there is a collision you will be partially liable.
Problem with that is that if the Audi has a crash (by your negligence or them not going when instructed or them going when instructed then a car coming around the corner hits them), they will blame you. Sure, you're not a traffic controller and you should never trust any other driver but they could still make it very difficult.
What if the Audi crashes and gets pushed into you / or pushed into a pedestrian (lots around that area). How would you feel ? What if after the crash they lawyer up and try to implicate you ? Things aren't always black and white. People with money usually have influence as well (know people who know people who can fry you because they don't like you / think you're at fault). I've had that happen to me a few times in my life.
Furthermore, the Audi drivers view would have been blocked big time by the van in front of the dashcam drivers vehicle.
Typical entitled Audi driver. You are only allowed to turn right onto a dual carriageway across a fixed line if it is safe and clear of traffic….which is not the case.
A bit of both.
U should have let him out 🙄
You could have left a gap for the Audi driver to pull out into moving traffic and watch them crash . . .
Not sure about aus rules but... Entering an intersection when you can't exit the other side is a traffic offence in NZ. Doesn't matter if its marked keep clear or not. Doesn't matter if you thought you could make it or not. I'm not sure what the Audi owner was hoping to achieve by tooting incessantly but the fact remains, by any rational standard and under NZ law this was dashcam owners fault.
@@AnotherDoug and so did the other driver as well
The Audi driver was just being stupid. The gap didn't exist.
Stop sign. Audi driver stop until clear
I think 997EB4 is just a jerk.
Report it to the pigs, illegal use of a horn 5 times
@@AnotherDoug "IF" that's the case, 2 wrongs make a right ? (make that 4)... Entering intersection, blocking traffic (active lane next to the dashcam vehicle), improper use of horn (5 times)
It's a poor manners on both the Audi and the DC part. Good manners would have the DC stop a little bit back to allow the Audi through. The Audi, however, once the intersection became blocked, should have just waited, especially since the Audi would not have had a clear view of the oncoming traffic to safely make the turn.
If I was the DC I'd have pulled forward a little more to make sure the Audi couldn't cut through and drive the point home. Chances are very good they'd get cleaned up by a car they couldn't see coming the other way and get pushed into me, ain't nobody got time for indulging assholes just so they can mess up your day.
Why would the DC driver on a main road stop for someone on a side street who had a stop sign?
The DC driver was breaking the road rules by blocking the intersection.
@@rgbgold so did the Audi driver also
@@AnotherDoug Mate, repeating the same information over and over in the comments is hardly doing any good at all - plus quoting a law that you do seemingly not understand.
I think that you really should stop with what you currently are doing, because just attacking one person for doing the wrong thing and defending another who also is doing a wrong thing is really not helping out with the situation at all.
I now have my suspicions that you were the Audi driver, seeing as you fail to admit that they also did something wrong and want to keep on insisting that the DC driver is at complete fault for this - they both are in the wrong, end of story.
Dash cam driver is on a THROUGH ROAD no need to pay attention to driver with a STOP sign
Take the Audi out of the video, DC driver is still blocking the intersection if an oncoming car wanted to turn right into the side street, that's' why his actions are illegal, nothing to do with the Audi driver.
Of course if the Aldi were to have a gap to turn, the driver would have no issues holding up 2 lanes of traffic (as opposed to the 1 lane he is blocking now) waiting for a clear view of the road to the left, and would be upset if the DC driver beeped him.
Audi drivers doing Audi things.
Australian road rules state it is illegal to block an intersection. The camera driver was in the wrong
WRONG
@@JohnAsquith-ey6ld such a well reasoned argument there, complete with facts, certainly going to change a lot of minds.
Why not share with us why you think Greg is wrong?
Why not just reverse? Car behind left plenty of space.
bad road design and bad road rules. if the line in middle of the road is unbroken means he cannot turn to his right only to his left is he allowed to turn. that shouldve been the case.
but you can see the break at 24 sec, and you are allowed to turn right over a single solid line anyway.
Could've waited and let him through, I guess, as you're stuck anyway, but then if the dick blasted across and hit someone going the other way they would possibly try and blame you.
I tend to let people in if they're going the same way as me, but have been caught out by others following them trying to force their way in as well. I tend not to let them in if they're trying to cross like this Audi, just asking for trouble in busy traffic going both ways. Not because I'm making decisions for them, or a pseudo cop, but because I don't want some impatient knob to pull in front of a car coming the other way and getting hit a pushed into me. Selfish? maybe, but at least this way nobody gets physically hurt and no property damaged.
There's no need to be an arse like the Audi driver and get all butt hurt. (but then, it seems stereotypical of them). Too easy to left turn and cross over/turn around later, or take a better route to begin with. I mean you're still going to be sitting on your arse in a comfortable chair with aircon and a decent sound system.... just like your lounge at home but without the alcoholic drink and a spouse nagging you.
Audi person should not be turning right across the solid centre line?
What about the gap at 24sec? Not to mention, you can turn right over a single solid line anyway.
Not a solid centre line, just like at the next intersecton where the cammer turns right.
How about the audi driver just waits patiently till the traffic has cleared.
He does not own the road or have a right to abuse other drivers just so he can go where he wants to go,
Nothing more than an arrogant person who should NOT have a drivers liscense.
Rude but VERY important Audi driver.
I would be angry too if I paid the Audi price for a VW.Totally out of order, nothing wrong with the road design, just cope.
We don't need a keep clear to keep clear in NSW. Then, the cammer could just back up a little to let the car pass. There were plenty of space. I guess QLD people don't care. Manner, huh.
Both drivers are at fault as far as I am concerned. Even with no keep clear markings it is still illegal to block an intersection, and it is illegal to enter a blocked intersection.
AUDI driver/operator ... say no more .
Audi driver DIKHED . You blocking intersection , naughty boy ! "Keep Clear " signs not required , check your rules , thou shalt not obstruct/ block an intersection , doesn't matter if it's a T junction , or cross roads . If Audi proceeds and is T-boned , he's in deep shit , but it's not up to you to act as traffic controller.
The Audi has no right of way. Ah the entitled "but I have a nice car and I'm so important, tug your forelocks and get out of my way plebs"
Regardless what DC has done, it will be alway be the Audi drivers fault, that’s why they have 4 cock rings as a emblem.
typical self entitled Audi driver. Thinks his needs are more important than anyone else
It is illegal to queue across intersections whether they are marked keep clear or not. It is common courtesy.
how is it an "intersection" if the only control markings are the stop sign/line telling the traffic from the side road to well, stop untill its safe to enter? By that logic one could just roll up to a stop, halt briefly then drive into traffic and blame anyone who runs into them for "not yielding".
Where two roads meet, they “intersect” hence the term intersection. In NSW traffic must obey any signage, ie give way or stop. If the intersection isn’t signposted, the terminating road must yield. It’s not rocket science, just common sense.
@@simon7218 but dc found themselves in that situation because traffic came to a sudden stop, we have all had that happen at least once to us, the Audi driver deliberately drove out and blocked traffic so this all sits at the Audi driver being a moron
@@kineticdeath Do you know the rule about not entering an intersection if you do not have a clear exit from the intersection?
Audi driver should have turned left in any case as turning right without full sight of traffic is dangerous and risks causing an accident with vehicle's travelling down the road
cammer should have left a gap for audi to pass
DC should have reversed??? reverse camera shows he had plenty of room to reverse
If there's no keep clear sign it gives you the right to be ignorant, got it:)
just aussies being aussies..
Audi driver crosses an un broken line also blocking traffic in the right hand lane in there impatience to get where ever . panel beaters and insurance companies brand & butter.
look at 24sec and you can see the break in the line for the turn, and besides, you are allowed to turn right across a single solid line.