I actually hadn't even thought about the fact that it basically offers a full OLED 120hz HDR compatable TV in a headset for 2D content. That's actaully a pretty damn great 'side' benefit.
@@alexk9295 Judging from the PSVR 1 there should be three screen sizes. Small, Medium and Large. Large was huge enough that made my eyes travel from side to side. I'd guess the equivalent of at least 85'.
@@alexk9295 I don’t know the exact virtual dimensions, but it’s variable essentially between the size of a large home tv and a movie theater sizes screen.
@@alexatkin yes that's an amazing feature for a unit you can get for around $200 currently and I'm saying this as an Xbox fan. I'll Definitely be looking into 3D content + VR in the future and ps4 sounds like a great entry point that would be made better with ps5
Being inside that Whales belly with the water rising over your head, or that beachside boogie stage more importantly were the jaw dropping stand outs imo! They definitely need to port it over and take advantage of the VR2's higher resolution, 110d FOV, it's revamped OLED display with it's true blacks, higher brightness & greater colours etc. And hopefully they can get it running at 120fps instead of 60 being reprojected into 120. The latter cause motion or character doubling, and just doesn't look natural or move realistically. Pretty sure if a VR game on VR2 runs at 120fps the motion doubling goes away.
Great rundown. Hope DF continues to cover PS VR2 as releases merit. Direct frame rate analysis is just one of the many things y’all are doing nowadays, after all!
It’s impressive. I dunno about buying it right away, only Horizon Call of the Mountain appeals to me so far. If it gets PC support that would make it a no brainer.
@@AzaiaMonota PC is tricky given few GPUs have USB-C wired to the GPUs Display Port output, so its hard to see if it will get enough interest to hack it to work. It was obvious Sony were going to use USB-C so it really annoyed me when NVIDIA decided not to include USB-C on 30/40 series after introducing it on 20 series cards.
Oh no doubt, no one's saying it isn't well priced for the VR space but it's still going to be prohibitively expensive for most people. I mean, once you factor in the PS5 itself, you're talking over a grand. Still cheaper than the PC route, but more than 95% of people will drop for a niche selection of games
@@alexlyster3459the truth is that the vast, vast majority of PlayStation owners are casuals who would shudder at the idea of paying more for an accessory than for the console itself. I, for one am really glad that Sony went down the route of a high end, more expensive headset but I can’t shake the feeling that this wont heavily compromise the sales for the thing
120 HZ and HDR for regular games is actually pretty cool. I'm not sure I'll use it much, but it definitely gives me more to think about. Wasn't even a consideration with the first PSVR
They could even display regular games in 3D, with a depth-based approach like Depth3D for ReShade on PC. True geo-3D would be too expensive though as that would require the GPU to render two separate views.
I just hope they will give us some environments for the theater mode, I used it on psvr 1 and it was cool but felt like you're just floating in front of a big ass screen. Give me a good cinema or home theater little environment and that's how I'm playing Spiderman 2 and FF16.
And this will ALSO be able to 'simulate' watching a 'projector' sized image, while still getting all of the Contrast/HDR benefits of a Direct View TV! I LOVE my projectors, but just due to how the technology works, they will NEVER be capable of displaying PROPER HDR. There's just no way to create any 'dimming zones' or 'turn off' individual pixels on a projector, since they all depend on a 'single' light source, and it's not possible to 'project pure black'...
10:16 "It's completely wild shooting down enemies just using your eyes" Oh man, Insomniac needs to make a Cyclops VR game with this tech after they are done with Wolverine.
Not a smart move considering how there are multiple dedicated VR headset RUclips channels out there that go more in depth about VR tech and the pros and cons of each headset. VR isn't Digital Foundry's expertise.
Ik heb het toen gekocht en ik moet echt zeggen ik speel bijna niks 2d meer. Het is echt 1 usb-c kabel in je ps5 stoppen, je stelt alles 1 keer in en daarna onthoud de psvr2 je speelruimte. Dus 1 keer instellen, de keren daarna 1 kabel erin bril opzetten en spelen maar. De haptics en de trigger weerstand is perfect net zoals bij de dualsense controller. Er zitten ook haptics in de headset zelf dus als je bijvoorbeeld in gt7 tegen een auto rijd of tegen een muur dan trilt je Hoofd ook mee en is echt een leuke ervaring. De headset is super comfortabel en ook het gewicht word perfect verdeeld. Gt7: is echt geweldig je zit echt in de auto's en het gevoel van snelheid is veel beter. Ook zien alle interieurs er gelikt uit. En de apex is makkelijker te pakken omdat je alles veel beter ziet. Resident evil village: dit spel is niet normaal het is mega vet je loopt echt in het spel en op plekken waar je nooit zou willen komen. Red matter 2: spel met fantastische graphics. Goed verhaal en schitterende omgevingen echt een aanrader. Ik vind dit zelf een van de mooiste psvr2 graphics. Minigolf: leuk spel veel banen, goede besturing en het is net of je echt aan het midgetgolfen bent. Walking dead 1 en 2: Leuk spel goed verhaal. Mooie graphics. Besturing is perfect en je kunt er goed je ei in kwijt ( lekker zombies slachten ) ;) Kayak vr: mooi spel om aan mensen te laten zien hoe vr eruit ziet. Schitterende omgevingen en leuk om relaxt rond te varen en alleen maar kijken naar de omgevingen en de dieren en de vele vissen. No man sky: Het is zo mooi hoe ze de schaling hebben gemaakt in dit spel alles lijkt echt mega groot en na de laatste updat zijn de graphics ook perfect geworden. Mooie landschappen en er is genoeg te ontdekken. Horizon call of the Mountain: spel word verkocht bij de psvr2 terwijl ik zelf vind dat ze beter gt7 erbij hadden kunnen doen of red matter 2. Die graphics zijn veel mooier. Het zijn leuke omgevingen maar het beeld kan scherper en het spel is voor 80% alleen maar klimmen. Na een tijdje zit er geen bloed meer in je armen (lol) Ghostbusters: Super leuk spel, mooie graphics en leuk om het online samen met andere mensen te spelen. Star wars: mooi spel en er zit een leuk verhaal in. Mooie planeten en de besturing werkt perfect. Pavlov: echt een mooi spel je kunt alle wapens echt pakken en gebruiken. Ook kun je alle wapens proberen op de schietbaan. Online spelen is ook leuk alleen dit vergt wel enige oefening 🤪 Ik ben super blij dat ik de stap heb genomen. Ik speel het veel vaker dan gedacht. Vooral omdat het binnen 2 minuten is aangesloten. Mijn advies koop het, probeer het en als je het niets vind stuur je het terug. Als je nieuw bent in vr begin dan met korte sessies te spelen. Je brein moet er echt aan wennen. Zorg dat je je lekker blijft voelen en op tijd stopt. Geef niet op het kan even duren voordat je er gewend aan bent. Probeer eerst zittende spellen ( bijvoorbeeld in gt7 in de vr showroom rondkijken ) of stapvoets rond rijden en kijken hoe het gaat. Je kunt ook een ventilator van een afstandje op je richten dit helpt ook bij veel mensen, ik heb dit zelf nooit nodig gehad. Er komen heel veel nieuwe spellen bij en er komt ook steeds meer bij in vr. Heb je nog vragen stel ze gerust 😃
We also get a 120hz HDR OLED big screen cinema as a bonus...that alone would cost a lot more than $500! I am a first wave pre-order and it was for that reason I ordered...the vr gaming aspect is the bonus for me :)
@@alexk9295 On PSVR it was effectively upto 220 inches! But that was actually too huge for me, I found the 150 inch virtual screen the more comfortable...but to answer your question...enormous! When I played Star Wars A New Hope blu ray (another benefit btw as Quest and PCVR don't play blu rays) on old PSVR, I was transported to being a mesmerised six year old boy at the cinema when the star destroyer swept overhead in the opening scene...I felt the same sensation that I never felt again when watching the movie on TV or even the cinema re-releases. PSVR cinematic mode gives a personal big screen sensation. With PSVR2, I expect the experience to jump a whole new level...but sadly, I will miss the 3D blui ray playback that I enjoyed on PSVR/PS4 console. I hope that SOny will release an update soon for PS5 3d blu ray playback.
They could even display regular games in 3D, with a depth-based approach like Depth3D for ReShade on PC. True geo-3D would be too expensive though as that would require the GPU to render two separate views.
@@theycallmemrglass wow, 220" is crazy! I wonder how pixelated 1080p will look on that, or even on 150". It should be leaps better than PSVR1 given that it has 4x the amount of pixels, is OLED and has HDR.
@@alexk9295 yeah the sensation of scale compensated for the relatively lower resolution but being OlED and HDR also compensates. It all depends on how much you value resolution over scale, some prefer Res, others scale. I fall in the latter :) but given reviews say screen door effect is minimal on psvr2 iexpect the cinematic mode will be great for all
@@videogamer38 That's how abused housewives cope with being in an abusive relationship. "could be worse" is exactly how corporations want to keep their cattle being fed proprietary salt lmao. Maybe VR is just a gimmick that needs to go away to stop hindering good game development and that's why it's dying out.
@@ErenTheWarcriminal Unless he means in terms of streaming to viewers, perhaps. As a solo experience, i love watching VR vids to get a bit of an insight before i purchase the experience for myself, however if im to try and watch someone streaming VR, i just cant get in to it. This is entirely subjective of course
It's packed with information and even the smaller details like how the controllers charge, how the earbuds fit into the back. John really knows how to cover all bases
Great review as usual. The only thing I would have added is the price comparison with the high end PC VR headsets you mentioned. Because sure $550 might be a lot, but a comparable headset in PC costs more than $1k
Any comparison would be dated really quickly. The PCVR market is in transition right now. There are already the first mid range micro OLED headsets (Bigscreen Beyond) announced and I expect high res 4000x36000 per eye Micro OLED headsets (such as valve deckard) to be out before the end of 2023.
@@decadent. By that logic, no point comparing the 4090 to anything because new cards will be out in a year or so. Do you expect any of those headsets to come in around this price point?
Yeah I had the same issue with this review. His complaint about the price point seems rather flimsy and a bit biased. For what you get the PSVR2 is priced VERY well.
@@decadent. do you really think Valve will ever launch new VR? I thought we were really heading for something special with them but now I'd be more likely to put a bet on them just never mentioning it again.
I don't have a PS5 and no interest in buying it. But as a PCVR enthusiast, I really hope PSVR2 is a huge success. I feel like it could be the saviour the VR space need in order to start getting more AAA vr games such as Half-Life Alyx. I hope Alyx comes out on PSVR2, thus increasing its reach and fan base, motivating Valve and other developers to make games just of that quality.
I would actually want a partnership where alyx comes out for ps5 but also ps vr 2 is compatible with steam (as they would be the likely contender of gaining the partnership) if I could even get that 2d game mode for the PC oh man..
Its going to come down to Sony first party and 3rd party deals in order to lead the charge , and with Sony's connections in bungie and rockstar I'm hoping for either destiny 2 in vr or a new mmo RPG by bungie for it and for rockstar to port they games to vr That only happens if we support the hardware tho, begging for it too be supported on pc isn't going to get you better pc games if you don't invest in the psvr 2 in the first place
Well said, good consumer and healthy community attitude. I have the original PSVR and will most certainly be getting PSVR2. Apart from being a massive jump from the original a big selling point for me is that some games are VR crossplay between PS5 and PC, a massive benefit to us all and such an awesome bonus. There are some funny videos of PSVR2 and PC VR users experimenting with PSVR2 on Pavlov, PC users were pretty stoked with the abilities of the PSVR especially the eye tracking which moved the characters eyes in game lol.
Only 7 days!!! Don't remember being this hyped for a video game 'console' before! Only N64 and wanting to play Mario 64 come to mind. And the og PSVR of course, but I was more unsure when waiting for that as I didn't quite know what to expect with VR at the time
@Hugo Stiglitz This was made for PS5 users just like how PC needs a expensive computer this is worth more then my Quest 2 which is sitting on the table you are just jealous kid playing on the blur
@@HugoStiglitz88 It isn't double the price. Q2: $399. PSVR2: $550. You also won't get anything like GT7 or Resi 8 on the Q2 standalone. For people who want top-tier VR games, the PSVR2 is the cheapest out there.
Thanks, John! Also watched ACG's video, and it's looking pretty impressive. From his review, it sounds like GT7 is the killer app (for racing fans). As someone who has a racing chair/wheel, I look forward to that.
Personally I never had a PS-VR 1 because the couple of times that I tried it I didn't think the quality was up to snuff. I can understand why the launch line up consisting of a lot of remasters wouldn't be the most appealing list to some, but it's actually helped sell me on it more. Getting to play the definitive editions of the few games I really wanted the last headset for, as well as a few new ones. Very excited to try this for myself.
PSVR1 was low quality but it's was also insanely cheap which meant it sold very well. PSVR2 is high end VR, but it's barrier to entry is too high to make it mainstream, as well as the PS5 being expensive and increasing in price, I doubt it will help make VR mainstream. And it's a shame because Sony has an oppertunity since meta is dying in incompetence and only selling overpriced headsets now, while the quest 2 showed what's possible with cheap VR
@@EBCHILL2 yea, the PS4 was never originally planned to have VR, so the connect box was needed to expand the IO. But PS5 had it planned early and has IO bandwidth reserved for it
Yup, that's a sweet deal right there. I've played a LOT of it and I'm still super amped for PSVR2. No Man's Sky is going to be even more beautiful, and GT7 is very likely going to be the best looking racing game out there in VR. Those two alone make it worth it for me, VR is so good.
Short of being tethered, this is EXACTLY what I've been looking for in a VR headset. Really, really wish it was compatible with PC as I don't own a PS5. Really hope modders can get it to work.
The early OLEDs weremt as good as these. OLED in that context were lower resolution pentile displays with less color accuraccy. At the time LCD was needed for higher refresh rates - and way cheaper too.
I wish my Quest 1 was LCD. It's OLED os pentle, making effective resolution lower than 1080p. It also has no color advantages since all games just keep grey colors.
@@HugoStiglitz88 wrong. A VR headset is not a PS Vita. The low resolution pentile displays and low refresh rate of early OLEDs were big downsides of the original Quest.
Looks very interesting, I absolutely loved the original PSVR when it came out, it was my first VR headset and I was blown away, then about 4-5 months ago I got an Oculus Quest 2, and I was blown away again with how much sharper it was and how much better the tracking was, and now another big upgrade like this? Can’t wait
I noticed a LOT of grain on the image, that is not crystal-clear at all. In facts it is a lot less clear that for instance the quest 2, and therefore the image is worst. I think it may come from some treatment on the fresnel lenses. As the noise pattern moves with your head and not with the image this is very easy to see ingame and hard to forget.
They still need the killer app, Gran Turismo 7. Driving and flying gamers are the biggest adopters of VR. It would also be a huge plus if the next armored core and ace combat receive vr.
Loving the "top of head" camera shots, really does a great job simulating what the player experiences in terms of 1:1 movement. Great review! Cannot wait for mine. Already reinstalled RE Village, GT7 and got the Horizon bundle.
Very impressive, my favorite game of all time is Astrobot Rescue Mission... so PSVR2 looks like it will bring more GOTYs to the platform, can't wait to see what the future holds for this amazing headset.
The biggest issue is lack of Backwards compatibility.. That along with VR still being fairly niche, I don't really think they'll be that much focus on VR2 as per usual
@@nocfox3050question is what is it going to take to convince you non believers they took one of they largest IP and made a vr spinoff for it , they made deals with capcom for resident evil they even made deals with oculus a competing platform As long as they keep it up IL be happy
Brilliant review. - OLED - 120Hz - HDR - Eye tracking - Foveated rendering - Haptic feedback - Proper VR controllers - Adaptive triggers - Most comfortable headset? Is it me or has PlayStation just released the best VR headset? At a much lower price than other comparable headsets? If this becomes available on PC it's a no brainer.
Not really, you still need a ps5. So its really $1000k which isn’t cheap. Best bargain is the quest 2, hardware is starting to show is limitations but you dont need to hook it up to anything really . No pc, just need your phone to get it set up
@@paulpivaral4832 If you don't have a PS5 for sure. I guess you could use the same logic if you didn't have a PC although not as applicable to most. Hopefully this new headset will help push developers and VR forward with higher quality experiences that the Quest 2 did not encourage and was not designed for.
Yeah, probably pick one up shortly. I like the fact that you can play standard games and use the headset like a normal monitor. I assume you'll be able to watch movies as well.
Excellent review, especially considering how hard these features are to demonstrate without the viewer having the hardware. I’ve got mine in the mail now, and now I’m even more excited to try it out!
I don't know everyone else but I use digital foundry videos as sleep sound music. Every word relax in tone and cadence and when they speak about something tech I almost think that I understand something and then only then I fall to sleep. Thanks.
“As you expect from the game that gave you the trance vibrator”😂 I love how John just casually tosses in these hilarious quips into his previews/reviews
I've been using mine for a few days...it's not as crisp And sharp as i was hoping. Everything looks sort of hazy, especially around the periphery. Looking straight on looks ok, but definitely not OLED crisp, and the edges of my vision, especially in theater mode, are blurry and ultimately i would describe they entire look of the screen as fuzzy. Maybe it's super sharp compared to other headsets...or am i missing something here?
I feel exactly the same. Cinematic mode is a joke. The loss in details and resolution is massive even in comparison of a 1080p TV! I tried all the settings possible.
I was on the fence about this until I started seeing how good the gt7 VR impressions were, and now that you've reminded me about the theater mode and how it's capable of 120hz while having a high pixel density, HDR and an OLED display I'll definitely be getting this as a TV/monitor if for nothing else
I already loved the controversial white and black aesthetic of the console unit but it looks even better now paired with the matching VR2 wearables. Very futuristic.
Great video John! As someone who has only tried PSVR1 and Oculus Quest 2, I've really appreciated how you explain how this headset is different and the different types of experiences more powerful hardware can enable!
I hope they include a PSVR Worlds 2 with this. The original was a great little showcase. Particularly enjoyed Ocean Descent and London Heist. Hopefully it’s compatible with PSVR2 and gets a boost to resolution.
Well, they won’t. Or they’d have said something. But I hope the free Demo Discs make a return for this one. They were a fair all around introduction to the library. And it was where people got see “Kitchen” for the first time
This is what i love about Sony. All these companies made a VR headset and they are way more expensive while being on a similar level qualitywise. This is a no brainer for VR fans and honestly, its the best you can get for jut 550bucks.
They will likely add 3d blu-ray support in a firmware update later on, they added 3d blu-ray support about 3-4 months after the PS VR release on the PS4 back in 2016
Yeah we were the sacrificial lambs. I had my share of fun but in retrospective 300$ was a steep price for what we got versus what we can get now for 500$. I'll try sell my PSVR, maybe someone will buy it for 200? T-T
Seems like it has some key improvements over the Valve Index (which I own) for half the price. Only bad part is it's exclusive to Playstation. High resolution HDR OLED display, haptic feedback, eye tracking, only one cable, no need for base stations, it's definitely an impressive package. I appreciate the review, John!
Being exclusive is actually a good thing as we will actually get good AAA games support unlike PC VR which hasn’t seen a big game released for like 3 years
@@miliyn17 Sony making VR games doesn't mean they need to be exclusive, they already port many "exclusives" to pc anyways why not VR? Slowing niche market like vr needs more game sales not more walled off stores.
Could you try three options? 1: USB Type C directly from the motherboard which there's a higher chance of being a USB 3.2 Gen 2 (Maybe Gen 2x2) 2: Type C Thunderbolt port 3: GPU with a Type C port Edit: That error can also be a lack of enough power to drive the headset, hence why those other options are worth checking out.
@hydzior you can add a thunderbolt add-in card and it will work on an AMD system, but the main thing that the error could be a lack of power from the USB port.
It doesn't seem like this tech could be too much cheaper for what it is, at least at the moment. All around this looks pretty darn excellent, especially when compared to the original. With more games, a real question mark, and pc support, whether official or community based, this seems like a big win in as a hardware product. Sony is in a tough position where they can only 'force' so much software to be on PSVR 2, and the rest would theoretically come from good sales of the hardware...which likely sells better with software support. I don't envy being in that spot, and appreciate PlayStation pushing their tech with no guarantees of success here.
Great review thanks, I think the price for all of this new technology inside the PSVR2 is very reasonable for what the PS5+PSVR2 combo brings to VR gaming, this sort of power has up until now been reserved for PCVR and that would be 3 or 4 times the price to achieve this sort of visual fidelity.
No, it wouldn't. You could easily beat this with a Quest 2 and about a 1200 PC. So not much more money at all and would be wireless and many more games and have a much higher framerate.
@@decadent. Pico 4 is STILL garbage LCD and only 90Hz along with the same outdated Snapdragon XR2 Gen 1 SoC. I wouldn't brag about either of those two headsets. 😂😂😂
18:00 is the best deal for me. I have pre ordered them. I want VR games of course but also a theatre, being able to see (without the VR capabilities) any game in a 'giant screen" is awesome.
I'm pretty lanky and tall and when I had the Samsung Odyssey, which used HMD-mounted cameras to track the controllers, I found the field of tracking to be very substandard, frequently losing tracking unless the controllers were in a fairly centered spot (a smaller area than the FOV of the display); this caused problems in a variety of games, and the system did not deal elegantly with loss of tracking and the reacquisition of tracking, the result being guns or hands or shields or whatever that would constantly "snap" back into place. It was terrible. I haven't actually used any system with this type of controller tracking since then -- no Quest, etc. I know this system has four cameras (or more?) vs. the two that the Odyssey had, but I'm still weary of this issue, especially at the $1K+ price (including PS5) that this would entail for me. Lighthouse on the original Vive and the original Vive Pro was absolutely flawless for me, never losing tracking no matter where my hands were. The best solution I've heard of was I think on an upcoming Quest Pro where the controllers THEMSELVES have inside-out tracking (hint: on the PSVR2 the HMD uses inside-out, so we say the system is inside-out, but in reality the PSVR2 controllers are tracked OUTSIDE IN). That is, the Quest Pro controllers contain their OWN cameras. It would be the first TRUE markerless inside-out tracked system where all three components (HMD + each controller) actually track themselves rather than being tracked by something external to them. PSVR2 and existing Quest are actually hybrid inside-out + outside-in systems. Anyway, I may try to get a demo of PSVR2 because my fear is that a similar frustrating tracking loss flaw will befall it.
Look up Pavlov on PSVR2, it's basically Counter Strike/Call of Duty in VR. Try watching Crowbat's video on it titled "How different counter strike vr can be"
@@kevinvercauteren3729 Yeah briefly a few years back i forget the game but it had similar hand controllers to PS VR2, it was some robot shooting game, the immersion was pretty impressive. I also tried Mario Kart VR at an arcade and that was amazing but it did make me feel quite ill afterwards.
got mine preordered. ready for No Man's Sky and Dark Pictures Switchback VR especially. But on launch day, going with Kayak VR Mirage, Fantavision 202x, and Rez Infinite! Really well done overview John, thanks!
I know they recently delayed No Man’s Sky from “launch day” to “launch window”, but I hope it’s no more than a few days behind schedule to iron-out some last minute bugs!
Already bought Village, Kayak and switchback to get ahead of the game haha. Already had No Man's Sky, been saving hard mode NMS to go for the center of galaxy achievement for PSVR2
Hope they nail down No Man's Sky's performance on PSVR2 and maybe bring some of those improvements to the PC version. Seems like no matter what hardware I play NMS on with PCVR, it has serious stuttering.
I can’t wait for mine to arrive. Been using the 1 for beat saber but the camera is also its greatest weakness which causes stutters with the move controllers.
Always happy to see Sony low key bringing it. VR is still early in its infancy but happy to see high quality cost effective solutions that will receive good support and push innovation thanks to Sonys clout and resources.
@@JKSmith-qs2ii I'll keep my fingres crossed for you friend but have you thought about potentially importing? Imagine it would still work (though someone better informed than me would need to check). For what it's worth, whilst you might be lacking in VR discounts I'm just jealous of where you reside. I pop to the Netherlands when finances afford - beautiful country!
@@BearlyRegal I’ve tried ordering from the UK, but seems there’s no shipping options to here. I’m also worried the EU might heavily tax me for importing goods from outside EU as they are known to do. All good though, there might just not be any sales here because there aren’t any units perhaps.
YES! It sucks that even movies that had 3D Theatrical releases have stopped being released on 3D BluRay... I'm hoping the proliferation of all these 3D VR Headsets will result in a larger market of consumers looking for new 3D movie content to watch on them!
this looks like such a great product honestly. this is the first time I've seen a VR kit and thought "damn, if I had the disposable income right now I'd buy this immediately", and I've never been that keen on VR. unfortunately I am poor
I value your opinion on tech the most John. Absolutely buzzing watching this! (P.S. I've also used the Fez soundtrack in many of my videos in the past, great taste)
Even though it comes across as expensive from a games console point of view. In comparison with a PC spec version it's value for money then! It just needs the software, I'm sure that once DF play GT 7 it'll be the killer app until more games are released
Honestly, I don't think VR necessarily needs massive amounts of games. What it needs is "killer apps", Games that are so amazing that you will go back to hem, over and over again. I have played ~600hours on my Reverb G2 and I have spent most of my time with Half Life Alyx + mods, Beat Saber, Skyrim VR + mods, and Assetto Corsa... even after 3 years, I am not tired of these four games. For PSVR2 I think the current "killer app" is actually Grand Turismo 7, a game like that really has infinite replayability if you love racing. No Man's Sky can probably also be a killer app as I can see a lot of people on Steam having 500+ hours invested. Games like these only become more engaging in VR and preferably if you play with other people and have a great time together!
I wasn't going to jump on day one, without PC support confirmed, but man I've just been surrounding myself in info about the headset and couldn't resist. My pre-order is preparing for shipment and I'm so excited for next week.
Hardware wise it literally checks everything I've wanted from a VR headset. Foveated rendering and Eye tracking being the most niche parts of my list. Foveated rendering seemed like a no-brainer for performance to be and EYE TRACKING is a GAME CHANGER. It looks so natural to be able to navigate menus and gameplay scenarios with by using sight to inform intent; way better than awkwardly trying to point your whole head at a giant menu button, instead boxes can be very small and you still maintain extreme precision with your selections.
@@JerryFlowersIII YEP! The eye tracking seems like a major change to the way you can interact with a game, and I bet we'll see a ton of games using it in some amazing ways!
Great point no one points out but you guys did! Original psvr with controller costed 499$ this one includes both for 549$ so no one should complain about the pricing that much when comparing
The review i was waiting for! Ty for the amazing review John, i knew you would be gushing about the OLED HDR screen, it seems to be trully impressive coming from you knowing how finicky your tastes are haha. Graphics in Horizon look amazing for a VR game, its a shame that you did not get games like RE8, Kayak VR or GT7 during the review process though. Dualsense controllers are such a big leap over Move controllers, if you come from PSVR1 then you will finally feel what proper VR controllers feel like and it seems the haptics really add to the immersion although i would have liked you better described the sensation for the headset haptics, can they simulate say rain in your head? From the official tech breakdown the haptic motor on the headset seemed to me like a classic rumble motor from old, maybe im wrong. Only complain i have John is that you complained about the price a bit too much imo, at least i would have liked you put into perspective the price and features of the headset with actual PC VR competitors. I also feel you missed talking about the game lineup from the perspective of someone new to VR (this is actually something a lot of reviewers fail to do).
Same here, the tech vs price point is a VALUE and when compared to similar quality headsets a STEAL. The PC headsets that match PSVR2 are over a GRAND!
The problem with making it compatible with PC, at least for now, is that... what is in it for Sony? You look at other VR headset pricing and the ones with similar features are more expensive, thus while I doubt they take a loss from every unit, but they probably don't take a lot of profit from selling it. They obviously want PSVR2 to draw people into Sony ecosystem or at least buy more software from the PS store. What can happen I think in the future if it ended up stagnating, then they should open PSVR2 to PC because at the very least they can make a bit more money and at the same time hoping for some people that purchase it for PC use only will end up buying PS5.
I’ve heard about some technology developed recently that somewhat easily enables stereoscopic 3D display of 3D world games that were originally designed for a traditional 2D TV screen. Essentially a second camera is placed in game as the player’s other eye. The tech was developed to bring more content to glasses-free 3D screens - however I can’t help but think it would be so cool and probably not too difficult to implement the same thing in the cinema mode for PS VR2. It would be a nice value add for PSVR 2 and would increase the benefit of playing traditional games not designed for VR - with the headset over a traditional TV. Perhaps some games for PS VR 1 kind of had a similar feature (you are in the world in a third person view- rather than looking in) - but I’m thinking the implementation might be better suited to cinema mode at more of a system level (viewing 3D through a virtual screen). The reason being - less risk of nausea/increased play comfort. Curious if others may see value in this as well.
Have to say, DF is my favorite tech channel now. So nice to see, that you do this not only for money, but because you truly love talking about the tech.
Just got it on ebay for 250 its definitely better then the vr 1 only thing i have a problem with is i cant play all the great vr1 games on it hopefully they release astrobot and ghost giant on it
I actually hadn't even thought about the fact that it basically offers a full OLED 120hz HDR compatable TV in a headset for 2D content. That's actaully a pretty damn great 'side' benefit.
yeah that "theater" mode is gonna be great, i can see myself using the headset for a lot of 2D content, maybe even more than the VR games themselves
Sounds like an amazing side benefit. Does anyone know how big you can make the virtual screen?
Nice bonus for me too 💟
@@alexk9295 Judging from the PSVR 1 there should be three screen sizes.
Small, Medium and Large.
Large was huge enough that made my eyes travel from side to side.
I'd guess the equivalent of at least 85'.
@@alexk9295 I don’t know the exact virtual dimensions, but it’s variable essentially between the size of a large home tv and a movie theater sizes screen.
I hope Sony will patch in 3D support like they did on PS4. I have a big collection of 3D blu rays that would absolutely look incredible on PSVR2.
That would be awesome. They don't even have 3D blu-ray support on PS5 which is a shame.
PS4 can play 3D blu-ray discs?
@@Clouds4Cheap I didn't realise that either, was added in firmware 1.75 apparently.
@@alexatkin yes that's an amazing feature for a unit you can get for around $200 currently and I'm saying this as an Xbox fan. I'll Definitely be looking into 3D content + VR in the future and ps4 sounds like a great entry point that would be made better with ps5
Yes. That would be great.
I can't believe Astro Bot isn't part of the launch titles.
It blew me away on the original PSVR.
I also need Wipeout!
e621 astro bot
Being inside that Whales belly with the water rising over your head, or that beachside boogie stage more importantly were the jaw dropping stand outs imo!
They definitely need to port it over and take advantage of the VR2's higher resolution, 110d FOV, it's revamped OLED display with it's true blacks, higher brightness & greater colours etc. And hopefully they can get it running at 120fps instead of 60 being reprojected into 120. The latter cause motion or character doubling, and just doesn't look natural or move realistically.
Pretty sure if a VR game on VR2 runs at 120fps the motion doubling goes away.
Astro will need some development for a re-release as it relies on the Dualshock
Even just a third-person VR update for playroom would be really neat
On the bright side, rumour is that a new Wipeout is in the works.
And of course, Team Asobi have been silent for two years since the launch...
Great rundown. Hope DF continues to cover PS VR2 as releases merit. Direct frame rate analysis is just one of the many things y’all are doing nowadays, after all!
It’s impressive. I dunno about buying it right away, only Horizon Call of the Mountain appeals to me so far. If it gets PC support that would make it a no brainer.
No PC even if you beg.
@@princedizzy3506 It will be forced onto PC you know that right
More games will come out. Just chill.
@@AzaiaMonota PC is tricky given few GPUs have USB-C wired to the GPUs Display Port output, so its hard to see if it will get enough interest to hack it to work.
It was obvious Sony were going to use USB-C so it really annoyed me when NVIDIA decided not to include USB-C on 30/40 series after introducing it on 20 series cards.
RE8, GT7, Switchback, Kayak! These are some top top titles, available day 1!
I forgot how good this channel was for just... Normal reviews. Great work.
No hogwarts review.....which is literally the most detailed world since rdr2
@@USNEM They don't want to get burned by the woke mob. If you simply dare review Hogwarts the alphabet people will cancel you for being transphobic.
@@USNEM bit of a stretch still comes no where close rdr2 the map is just bad with iconic locations
@@USNEM They didn't get a review copy, so they had to wait
@@USNEM i wonder why 🤔🙄
People complaining about the price don't seem to understand that to get anything close to the specs of this on a PC model costs over a grand.
Oh no doubt, no one's saying it isn't well priced for the VR space but it's still going to be prohibitively expensive for most people. I mean, once you factor in the PS5 itself, you're talking over a grand. Still cheaper than the PC route, but more than 95% of people will drop for a niche selection of games
A Quest Pro is the cheapest alternative, has worse specs and costs 1300 dollars plus.
@@alexlyster3459 not even the launch titles are niche at all.
@@alexlyster3459the truth is that the vast, vast majority of PlayStation owners are casuals who would shudder at the idea of paying more for an accessory than for the console itself. I, for one am really glad that Sony went down the route of a high end, more expensive headset but I can’t shake the feeling that this wont heavily compromise the sales for the thing
Oddly enough, to get to these specs costs over a grand with the console plus PSV2, but I get the point that VR plus decent PC is a couple of thousand.
120 HZ and HDR for regular games is actually pretty cool. I'm not sure I'll use it much, but it definitely gives me more to think about. Wasn't even a consideration with the first PSVR
Dont forget you ca watch 2D content as well. So if they implement a theater mode, it should be pretty amazing.
They could even display regular games in 3D, with a depth-based approach like Depth3D for ReShade on PC. True geo-3D would be too expensive though as that would require the GPU to render two separate views.
@@AnimeUniverseDE that is a really good idea. It could be added by patch individually to selected games, optimized for best settings/performance.
I just hope they will give us some environments for the theater mode, I used it on psvr 1 and it was cool but felt like you're just floating in front of a big ass screen. Give me a good cinema or home theater little environment and that's how I'm playing Spiderman 2 and FF16.
Why wouldn't you use it much?!
Nice to see REZ get a mention and update for PSVR2, I’ve been playing that game since the PS2 and love it, it was so ahead of its time.
I watched many reviews by now but this is hands down the best, as usual. Great work John.
Just being able to play flat games with the OLED 120hz display in theater mode is a huge plus because I have a pretty average 4K TV
And this will ALSO be able to 'simulate' watching a 'projector' sized image, while still getting all of the Contrast/HDR benefits of a Direct View TV!
I LOVE my projectors, but just due to how the technology works, they will NEVER be capable of displaying PROPER HDR. There's just no way to create any 'dimming zones' or 'turn off' individual pixels on a projector, since they all depend on a 'single' light source, and it's not possible to 'project pure black'...
Is this a confirmed feature?? Thats so cool if so
@@floppydysk Yep.
10:16 "It's completely wild shooting down enemies just using your eyes" Oh man, Insomniac needs to make a Cyclops VR game with this tech after they are done with Wolverine.
He moves his head though, not just his eyes.
@@Alex_Logan22 Superman's laser vision would work well with this tech, though..
One of the only tech review channels that I trust. Thank you for your detailed, clear & concise presentation.
Not a smart move considering how there are multiple dedicated VR headset RUclips channels out there that go more in depth about VR tech and the pros and cons of each headset.
VR isn't Digital Foundry's expertise.
Yeah I avoided the more corporate channels because they're often not as informed and have bias.
@@frishter so unbiased they decided to not cover Hogwarts Legacy
@@Jonathan-zq8vs OK, I take that back.
@@Jonathan-zq8vs Are you referring to this channel or the more corporate like channels?
Ik heb het toen gekocht en ik moet echt zeggen ik speel bijna niks 2d meer.
Het is echt 1 usb-c kabel in je ps5 stoppen, je stelt alles 1 keer in en daarna onthoud de psvr2 je speelruimte. Dus 1 keer instellen, de keren daarna 1 kabel erin bril opzetten en spelen maar. De haptics en de trigger weerstand is perfect net zoals bij de dualsense controller.
Er zitten ook haptics in de headset zelf dus als je bijvoorbeeld in gt7 tegen een auto rijd of tegen een muur dan trilt je
Hoofd ook mee en is echt een leuke ervaring.
De headset is super comfortabel en ook het gewicht word perfect verdeeld.
Gt7: is echt geweldig je zit echt in de auto's en het gevoel van snelheid is veel beter. Ook zien alle interieurs er gelikt uit. En de apex is makkelijker te pakken omdat je alles veel beter ziet.
Resident evil village: dit spel is niet normaal het is mega vet je loopt echt in het spel en op plekken waar je nooit zou willen komen.
Red matter 2: spel met fantastische graphics. Goed verhaal en schitterende omgevingen echt een aanrader. Ik vind dit zelf een van de mooiste psvr2 graphics.
Minigolf: leuk spel veel banen, goede besturing en het is net of je echt aan het midgetgolfen bent.
Walking dead 1 en 2:
Leuk spel goed verhaal. Mooie graphics. Besturing is perfect en je kunt er goed je ei in kwijt ( lekker zombies slachten ) ;)
Kayak vr: mooi spel om aan mensen te laten zien hoe vr eruit ziet. Schitterende omgevingen en leuk om relaxt rond te varen en alleen maar kijken naar de omgevingen en de dieren en de vele vissen.
No man sky:
Het is zo mooi hoe ze de schaling hebben gemaakt in dit spel alles lijkt echt mega groot en na de laatste updat zijn de graphics ook perfect geworden. Mooie landschappen en er is genoeg te ontdekken.
Horizon call of the Mountain: spel word verkocht bij de psvr2 terwijl ik zelf vind dat ze beter gt7 erbij hadden kunnen doen of red matter 2. Die graphics zijn veel mooier. Het zijn leuke omgevingen maar het beeld kan scherper en het spel is voor 80% alleen maar klimmen. Na een tijdje zit er geen bloed meer in je armen (lol)
Ghostbusters:
Super leuk spel, mooie graphics en leuk om het online samen met andere mensen te spelen.
Star wars: mooi spel en er zit een leuk verhaal in. Mooie planeten en de besturing werkt perfect.
Pavlov: echt een mooi spel je kunt alle wapens echt pakken en gebruiken.
Ook kun je alle wapens proberen op de schietbaan.
Online spelen is ook leuk alleen dit vergt wel enige oefening 🤪
Ik ben super blij dat ik de stap heb genomen. Ik speel het veel vaker dan gedacht. Vooral omdat het binnen 2 minuten is aangesloten.
Mijn advies koop het, probeer het en als je het niets vind stuur je het terug.
Als je nieuw bent in vr begin dan met korte sessies te spelen.
Je brein moet er echt aan wennen.
Zorg dat je je lekker blijft voelen en op tijd stopt. Geef niet op het kan even duren voordat je er gewend aan bent.
Probeer eerst zittende spellen ( bijvoorbeeld in gt7 in de vr showroom rondkijken ) of stapvoets rond rijden en kijken hoe het gaat.
Je kunt ook een ventilator van een afstandje op je richten dit helpt ook bij veel mensen, ik heb dit zelf nooit nodig gehad.
Er komen heel veel nieuwe spellen bij en er komt ook steeds meer bij in vr.
Heb je nog vragen stel ze gerust 😃
This is the first time I am interested in a VR headset. Overall I am just feeling great that this technology is getting attention in general.
We also get a 120hz HDR OLED big screen cinema as a bonus...that alone would cost a lot more than $500! I am a first wave pre-order and it was for that reason I ordered...the vr gaming aspect is the bonus for me :)
Big screen mode for movies and games sounds amazing to me. Any idea how big we can make the screen?
@@alexk9295 On PSVR it was effectively upto 220 inches! But that was actually too huge for me, I found the 150 inch virtual screen the more comfortable...but to answer your question...enormous! When I played Star Wars A New Hope blu ray (another benefit btw as Quest and PCVR don't play blu rays) on old PSVR, I was transported to being a mesmerised six year old boy at the cinema when the star destroyer swept overhead in the opening scene...I felt the same sensation that I never felt again when watching the movie on TV or even the cinema re-releases. PSVR cinematic mode gives a personal big screen sensation. With PSVR2, I expect the experience to jump a whole new level...but sadly, I will miss the 3D blui ray playback that I enjoyed on PSVR/PS4 console. I hope that SOny will release an update soon for PS5 3d blu ray playback.
They could even display regular games in 3D, with a depth-based approach like Depth3D for ReShade on PC. True geo-3D would be too expensive though as that would require the GPU to render two separate views.
@@theycallmemrglass wow, 220" is crazy! I wonder how pixelated 1080p will look on that, or even on 150". It should be leaps better than PSVR1 given that it has 4x the amount of pixels, is OLED and has HDR.
@@alexk9295 yeah the sensation of scale compensated for the relatively lower resolution but being OlED and HDR also compensates. It all depends on how much you value resolution over scale, some prefer Res, others scale. I fall in the latter :) but given reviews say screen door effect is minimal on psvr2 iexpect the cinematic mode will be great for all
Big win for the VR community! Let's gooooo
You mean big win for PlayStation VR console community
It's not usable anywhere else and it's not backwards compatible
Probably won't be compatible with ps6.
This is not a win for anyone but Sony.
@@lasarousi any decent new vr headset is a win for the community. With new headsets coming out, we would all be playing quest 2
@@videogamer38 That's how abused housewives cope with being in an abusive relationship.
"could be worse" is exactly how corporations want to keep their cattle being fed proprietary salt lmao.
Maybe VR is just a gimmick that needs to go away to stop hindering good game development and that's why it's dying out.
@@lasarousi you obviously don't have a clue what your on about, so don't bother replying
I know VR RUclips content doesn't usually perform well but I appreciate you putting this review out and I hope to see more to come!
Lol “perform well” it’s DF bro, people literally watch for this exact reason
@@ErenTheWarcriminal yeah I know. But most creators ditch any content related to VR because the time spent making the content doesn't pan out
@@ErenTheWarcriminal Unless he means in terms of streaming to viewers, perhaps. As a solo experience, i love watching VR vids to get a bit of an insight before i purchase the experience for myself, however if im to try and watch someone streaming VR, i just cant get in to it. This is entirely subjective of course
150k views in 12 hours. I think it's performed rather well so far.
This is BY FAR the best psvr 2 review I've seen
It's packed with information and even the smaller details like how the controllers charge, how the earbuds fit into the back. John really knows how to cover all bases
Great review as usual. The only thing I would have added is the price comparison with the high end PC VR headsets you mentioned. Because sure $550 might be a lot, but a comparable headset in PC costs more than $1k
Any comparison would be dated really quickly.
The PCVR market is in transition right now. There are already the first mid range micro OLED headsets (Bigscreen Beyond) announced and I expect high res 4000x36000 per eye Micro OLED headsets (such as valve deckard) to be out before the end of 2023.
THIS!!! ☝️☝️☝️
@@decadent. By that logic, no point comparing the 4090 to anything because new cards will be out in a year or so. Do you expect any of those headsets to come in around this price point?
Yeah I had the same issue with this review. His complaint about the price point seems rather flimsy and a bit biased. For what you get the PSVR2 is priced VERY well.
@@decadent. do you really think Valve will ever launch new VR? I thought we were really heading for something special with them but now I'd be more likely to put a bet on them just never mentioning it again.
Pre-ordered this morning! Thanks for the video guys!
When your about to go to bed and RUclips is suddenly flooded with PSVR 2 Reviews... Guess I can sleep later, lol
I don't have a PS5 and no interest in buying it. But as a PCVR enthusiast, I really hope PSVR2 is a huge success. I feel like it could be the saviour the VR space need in order to start getting more AAA vr games such as Half-Life Alyx. I hope Alyx comes out on PSVR2, thus increasing its reach and fan base, motivating Valve and other developers to make games just of that quality.
You're awesome! Lol. That's the attitude we need. No VR wars. We all need to be together.
I would actually want a partnership where alyx comes out for ps5 but also ps vr 2 is compatible with steam (as they would be the likely contender of gaining the partnership)
if I could even get that 2d game mode for the PC oh man..
Its going to come down to Sony first party and 3rd party deals in order to lead the charge , and with Sony's connections in bungie and rockstar I'm hoping for either destiny 2 in vr or a new mmo RPG by bungie for it and for rockstar to port they games to vr
That only happens if we support the hardware tho, begging for it too be supported on pc isn't going to get you better pc games if you don't invest in the psvr 2 in the first place
Well said, good consumer and healthy community attitude. I have the original PSVR and will most certainly be getting PSVR2. Apart from being a massive jump from the original a big selling point for me is that some games are VR crossplay between PS5 and PC, a massive benefit to us all and such an awesome bonus.
There are some funny videos of PSVR2 and PC VR users experimenting with PSVR2 on Pavlov, PC users were pretty stoked with the abilities of the PSVR especially the eye tracking which moved the characters eyes in game lol.
So many games at launch it’s insane. CoTM and RE8. GT7. Rez infinite. Kayak VR. The light brigade. Those are my top 6 so far. So hyped!!!
I wanna show my grandparents that kayak vr game since they love kayaking. None of us own a vr headset, but still cool to see something like that
And Switchback and Project Wingman coming soon after.
We need rez evil vii
This is one of the best channels on RUclips. Y'all are incredible and it's amazing how much effort and care y'all put into your everything.
Only 7 days!!! Don't remember being this hyped for a video game 'console' before! Only N64 and wanting to play Mario 64 come to mind. And the og PSVR of course, but I was more unsure when waiting for that as I didn't quite know what to expect with VR at the time
Wow this is very impressive VR technology for the pricepoint. The eye tracking feature sounds really great. Thanks for the good coverage John!
No it isn't. There's no way this is worth double the quest 2. That's ridiculous
@@HugoStiglitz88 like it or not, it is...or ure dev as well to debunk what they said?
@Hugo Stiglitz This was made for PS5 users just like how PC needs a expensive computer this is worth more then my Quest 2 which is sitting on the table you are just jealous kid playing on the blur
@@HugoStiglitz88 It isn't double the price. Q2: $399. PSVR2: $550.
You also won't get anything like GT7 or Resi 8 on the Q2 standalone. For people who want top-tier VR games, the PSVR2 is the cheapest out there.
@@HugoStiglitz88 The same tech from the same company as the Quest 2 costs 3x the price as the PSVR2...
Thanks for this John, your review got me giddy like a child at Christmas. Super stoked to get mine next week.
John does NOT like childish things ! 😡
Peak review channel, PSVR2 is really a State of the art tech.
I preordered it. I haven’t bought into Vr since the rift CV1… it was my favorite thing for years. This is the perfect next step
Thanks, John! Also watched ACG's video, and it's looking pretty impressive. From his review, it sounds like GT7 is the killer app (for racing fans). As someone who has a racing chair/wheel, I look forward to that.
Still graphics and physics engine of the 90s. Another obselete fony game. ☮️
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 cry more
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 We see you in the corner seething!!😂
@@ninetendopesaitama2107 more lies
@@uwu-jv2jn its fully supported in gt7
Personally I never had a PS-VR 1 because the couple of times that I tried it I didn't think the quality was up to snuff. I can understand why the launch line up consisting of a lot of remasters wouldn't be the most appealing list to some, but it's actually helped sell me on it more. Getting to play the definitive editions of the few games I really wanted the last headset for, as well as a few new ones. Very excited to try this for myself.
Yeah for me just using psvr1 was a pain with the passthrough box and cables, the simple usbc cable connection is a huge upgrade
PSVR1 was low quality but it's was also insanely cheap which meant it sold very well. PSVR2 is high end VR, but it's barrier to entry is too high to make it mainstream, as well as the PS5 being expensive and increasing in price, I doubt it will help make VR mainstream.
And it's a shame because Sony has an oppertunity since meta is dying in incompetence and only selling overpriced headsets now, while the quest 2 showed what's possible with cheap VR
@@EBCHILL2 yea, the PS4 was never originally planned to have VR, so the connect box was needed to expand the IO. But PS5 had it planned early and has IO bandwidth reserved for it
@@wile123456 PSVR1 with the camera and 2 move controllers was actually more expensive in todays money than PSVR2
Yup, that's a sweet deal right there. I've played a LOT of it and I'm still super amped for PSVR2. No Man's Sky is going to be even more beautiful, and GT7 is very likely going to be the best looking racing game out there in VR. Those two alone make it worth it for me, VR is so good.
Short of being tethered, this is EXACTLY what I've been looking for in a VR headset. Really, really wish it was compatible with PC as I don't own a PS5. Really hope modders can get it to work.
Appreciate the detailed review! Got mine pre ordered. No one else mentioned the 2d screen mode so I'm glad they've nailed that!
OLED is so important for immersion in VR. That Oculus went the lcd route after the oled quest 1will forever baffle me
The early OLEDs weremt as good as these. OLED in that context were lower resolution pentile displays with less color accuraccy. At the time LCD was needed for higher refresh rates - and way cheaper too.
I wish my Quest 1 was LCD. It's OLED os pentle, making effective resolution lower than 1080p. It also has no color advantages since all games just keep grey colors.
@@Wobbothe3rd wrong. There's never been a time OLED was worse. Even the ps vita OLED blows away any LCD and that was 2011
Quest 2 is over all playstation users will sell the Quest 2 now just like me
@@HugoStiglitz88 wrong. A VR headset is not a PS Vita. The low resolution pentile displays and low refresh rate of early OLEDs were big downsides of the original Quest.
Great work from you John! As always.
It may be become my first VR Headset :)
Looks very interesting, I absolutely loved the original PSVR when it came out, it was my first VR headset and I was blown away, then about 4-5 months ago I got an Oculus Quest 2, and I was blown away again with how much sharper it was and how much better the tracking was, and now another big upgrade like this? Can’t wait
mich bigger compared to quest 2. have fun bro with it
I noticed a LOT of grain on the image, that is not crystal-clear at all. In facts it is a lot less clear that for instance the quest 2, and therefore the image is worst.
I think it may come from some treatment on the fresnel lenses.
As the noise pattern moves with your head and not with the image this is very easy to see ingame and hard to forget.
I see the grain as well, while others don't see it. I don't understand how players say this is a great picture.
This is gonna my first VR experience ever, I’m so rock hard John. Help.
Take 3 more Viagra pills.
This will be my first intro to VR & I cannot wait!!
Excellent job Sony. 👏🏽 👏🏽👍🏼
They still need the killer app, Gran Turismo 7. Driving and flying gamers are the biggest adopters of VR. It would also be a huge plus if the next armored core and ace combat receive vr.
@theonlylolking This review ain't about VR games, it's about the fantastic tech in this awesome hardware, Mr. Obvious 🤨🤨
@@theonlylolking Boy do I have news for you lol
@@theonlylolking Well you got your wish granted, both GT7 and Project Wingman are coming to PSVR2
@@theonlylolking so ignorant
Loving the "top of head" camera shots, really does a great job simulating what the player experiences in terms of 1:1 movement. Great review! Cannot wait for mine. Already reinstalled RE Village, GT7 and got the Horizon bundle.
Very impressive, my favorite game of all time is Astrobot Rescue Mission... so PSVR2 looks like it will bring more GOTYs to the platform, can't wait to see what the future holds for this amazing headset.
The biggest issue is lack of Backwards compatibility..
That along with VR still being fairly niche, I don't really think they'll be that much focus on VR2 as per usual
@@nocfox3050question is what is it going to take to convince you non believers they took one of they largest IP and made a vr spinoff for it , they made deals with capcom for resident evil they even made deals with oculus a competing platform
As long as they keep it up IL be happy
Brilliant review.
- OLED
- 120Hz
- HDR
- Eye tracking
- Foveated rendering
- Haptic feedback
- Proper VR controllers
- Adaptive triggers
- Most comfortable headset?
Is it me or has PlayStation just released the best VR headset? At a much lower price than other comparable headsets? If this becomes available on PC it's a no brainer.
Not really, you still need a ps5. So its really $1000k which isn’t cheap. Best bargain is the quest 2, hardware is starting to show is limitations but you dont need to hook it up to anything really . No pc, just need your phone to get it set up
@@paulpivaral4832 If you don't have a PS5 for sure. I guess you could use the same logic if you didn't have a PC although not as applicable to most. Hopefully this new headset will help push developers and VR forward with higher quality experiences that the Quest 2 did not encourage and was not designed for.
Yeah, probably pick one up shortly.
I like the fact that you can play standard games and use the headset like a normal monitor. I assume you'll be able to watch movies as well.
Streaming and Blu-ray’s. And HDR support. It’s very impressive.
Excellent review, especially considering how hard these features are to demonstrate without the viewer having the hardware. I’ve got mine in the mail now, and now I’m even more excited to try it out!
Great review, pretty much everything covered in detail. I will say, here in Ireland the Headset is available for Pre order/purchase from GameStop.
I don't know everyone else but I use digital foundry videos as sleep sound music. Every word relax in tone and cadence and when they speak about something tech I almost think that I understand something and then only then I fall to sleep. Thanks.
I really appreciate you specifying users that have only experienced PSVR for the VR experience.
“As you expect from the game that gave you the trance vibrator”😂
I love how John just casually tosses in these hilarious quips into his previews/reviews
I've been using mine for a few days...it's not as crisp And sharp as i was hoping. Everything looks sort of hazy, especially around the periphery. Looking straight on looks ok, but definitely not OLED crisp, and the edges of my vision, especially in theater mode, are blurry and ultimately i would describe they entire look of the screen as fuzzy. Maybe it's super sharp compared to other headsets...or am i missing something here?
I feel exactly the same. Cinematic mode is a joke. The loss in details and resolution is massive even in comparison of a 1080p TV! I tried all the settings possible.
I was on the fence about this until I started seeing how good the gt7 VR impressions were, and now that you've reminded me about the theater mode and how it's capable of 120hz while having a high pixel density, HDR and an OLED display I'll definitely be getting this as a TV/monitor if for nothing else
I already loved the controversial white and black aesthetic of the console unit but it looks even better now paired with the matching VR2 wearables. Very futuristic.
I had to hide my ps5 behind the tv. It’s disgusting.
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2:45 thats all i needed to hear, I'm sold. That was my big gripe about the 1.0 version
Great video John! As someone who has only tried PSVR1 and Oculus Quest 2, I've really appreciated how you explain how this headset is different and the different types of experiences more powerful hardware can enable!
Great review. Comparably I’d say this is pretty cheap compared to headsets of a similar quality on PC.
There are no headsets of a similar quality on PC. Literally, not even for $1500.
Truth!
I hope they include a PSVR Worlds 2 with this. The original was a great little showcase. Particularly enjoyed Ocean Descent and London Heist. Hopefully it’s compatible with PSVR2 and gets a boost to resolution.
Are those demos?
@@techsamurai11 they were mini games/experiences.
Well, they won’t. Or they’d have said something. But I hope the free Demo Discs make a return for this one. They were a fair all around introduction to the library. And it was where people got see “Kitchen” for the first time
We need a true ocean descent game. That was an awesome experience and the reason I bought the ps vr set in the first place.
Was that the one with the underwater shark demo i really loved that
This is what i love about Sony.
All these companies made a VR headset and they are way more expensive while being on a similar level qualitywise.
This is a no brainer for VR fans and honestly, its the best you can get for jut 550bucks.
They missed to say if 3d blurays still work. That was one of the nice features I used in psvr, it gave you that imax feel... at home
PS5 has no 3D Blu-ray support so no it won't work
They will likely add 3d blu-ray support in a firmware update later on, they added 3d blu-ray support about 3-4 months after the PS VR release on the PS4 back in 2016
Thank you everyone that bought the beta, literally making this possible!
I’m among that number 😅.
Yeah we were the sacrificial lambs. I had my share of fun but in retrospective 300$ was a steep price for what we got versus what we can get now for 500$. I'll try sell my PSVR, maybe someone will buy it for 200? T-T
@@davex5969 You might get a good price still, depending on how many games aren't going to be BC.
@@davex5969 try a pawn shop, they will probably give you more for it.
Seems like it has some key improvements over the Valve Index (which I own) for half the price. Only bad part is it's exclusive to Playstation. High resolution HDR OLED display, haptic feedback, eye tracking, only one cable, no need for base stations, it's definitely an impressive package. I appreciate the review, John!
Being exclusive is actually a good thing as we will actually get good AAA games support unlike PC VR which hasn’t seen a big game released for like 3 years
@@miliyn17 Sony making VR games doesn't mean they need to be exclusive, they already port many "exclusives" to pc anyways why not VR? Slowing niche market like vr needs more game sales not more walled off stores.
But you can play hl Alyx with the Index which is a big w.
@@Dharnthread that’s the only big game PC VR has had in the last 3 years
@@Dharnthread It'll be on PSVR 2 soon enough
Superb review, answered all my questions. Thanks. Looking forward to release day
Could you try three options?
1: USB Type C directly from the motherboard which there's a higher chance of being a USB 3.2 Gen 2 (Maybe Gen 2x2)
2: Type C Thunderbolt port
3: GPU with a Type C port
Edit: That error can also be a lack of enough power to drive the headset, hence why those other options are worth checking out.
Thunderbolt is a intel and apple thing. Amd only have usb4.
@hydzior you can add a thunderbolt add-in card and it will work on an AMD system, but the main thing that the error could be a lack of power from the USB port.
Camera mode is crazy, much higher resolution than expected.
Are you talking about the AR camera that let's you see real world.
@@sonicsnake44 Yes the room view.
I wish Sony was doing AR stuff with the headset.
It doesn't seem like this tech could be too much cheaper for what it is, at least at the moment. All around this looks pretty darn excellent, especially when compared to the original. With more games, a real question mark, and pc support, whether official or community based, this seems like a big win in as a hardware product.
Sony is in a tough position where they can only 'force' so much software to be on PSVR 2, and the rest would theoretically come from good sales of the hardware...which likely sells better with software support. I don't envy being in that spot, and appreciate PlayStation pushing their tech with no guarantees of success here.
Great review thanks, I think the price for all of this new technology inside the PSVR2 is very reasonable for what the PS5+PSVR2 combo brings to VR gaming, this sort of power has up until now been reserved for PCVR and that would be 3 or 4 times the price to achieve this sort of visual fidelity.
No, it wouldn't. You could easily beat this with a Quest 2 and about a 1200 PC. So not much more money at all and would be wireless and many more games and have a much higher framerate.
@@brandonbee9 😂😂😂😂 quest lol
@@brandonbee9 Pico 4 would be a better choice. Far better lenses and panel.
@@decadent. Pico 4 is STILL garbage LCD and only 90Hz along with the same outdated Snapdragon XR2 Gen 1 SoC.
I wouldn't brag about either of those two headsets. 😂😂😂
@@brandonbee9 When did Quest 2 get Eye Tracking & OLED 4K HDR. Bro you really I don't got any Ideal what you are talking about.
The best VR by a long shot! Amazing tech definitely a game changer well done Sony.
18:00 is the best deal for me. I have pre ordered them. I want VR games of course but also a theatre, being able to see (without the VR capabilities) any game in a 'giant screen" is awesome.
I'm pretty lanky and tall and when I had the Samsung Odyssey, which used HMD-mounted cameras to track the controllers, I found the field of tracking to be very substandard, frequently losing tracking unless the controllers were in a fairly centered spot (a smaller area than the FOV of the display); this caused problems in a variety of games, and the system did not deal elegantly with loss of tracking and the reacquisition of tracking, the result being guns or hands or shields or whatever that would constantly "snap" back into place.
It was terrible.
I haven't actually used any system with this type of controller tracking since then -- no Quest, etc. I know this system has four cameras (or more?) vs. the two that the Odyssey had, but I'm still weary of this issue, especially at the $1K+ price (including PS5) that this would entail for me. Lighthouse on the original Vive and the original Vive Pro was absolutely flawless for me, never losing tracking no matter where my hands were.
The best solution I've heard of was I think on an upcoming Quest Pro where the controllers THEMSELVES have inside-out tracking (hint: on the PSVR2 the HMD uses inside-out, so we say the system is inside-out, but in reality the PSVR2 controllers are tracked OUTSIDE IN). That is, the Quest Pro controllers contain their OWN cameras. It would be the first TRUE markerless inside-out tracked system where all three components (HMD + each controller) actually track themselves rather than being tracked by something external to them. PSVR2 and existing Quest are actually hybrid inside-out + outside-in systems.
Anyway, I may try to get a demo of PSVR2 because my fear is that a similar frustrating tracking loss flaw will befall it.
Great review as always :) I’m very impressed, I passed up on PS VR 1 but this looks like a game changer. Might be tempted once more software hits.
Did you play VR on PC, if not theres plenty of software already. But ofcourse... Your wallet, your choices 😉
Look up Pavlov on PSVR2, it's basically Counter Strike/Call of Duty in VR.
Try watching Crowbat's video on it titled "How different counter strike vr can be"
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Yeah briefly a few years back i forget the game but it had similar hand controllers to PS VR2, it was some robot shooting game, the immersion was pretty impressive. I also tried Mario Kart VR at an arcade and that was amazing but it did make me feel quite ill afterwards.
I’ll be taking my first step into the VR community with this device. Excited and hopeful for its future
Your going to have a blast.
Prepare for some cardio lol VR requires a surprising amount of energy, which makes it a great way to have fun AND get exercise!
got mine preordered. ready for No Man's Sky and Dark Pictures Switchback VR especially. But on launch day, going with Kayak VR Mirage, Fantavision 202x, and Rez Infinite! Really well done overview John, thanks!
don't forget the real big deal, resident evil 8 village 😃
I know they recently delayed No Man’s Sky from “launch day” to “launch window”, but I hope it’s no more than a few days behind schedule to iron-out some last minute bugs!
Already bought Village, Kayak and switchback to get ahead of the game haha. Already had No Man's Sky, been saving hard mode NMS to go for the center of galaxy achievement for PSVR2
Hope they nail down No Man's Sky's performance on PSVR2 and maybe bring some of those improvements to the PC version. Seems like no matter what hardware I play NMS on with PCVR, it has serious stuttering.
I can’t wait for mine to arrive. Been using the 1 for beat saber but the camera is also its greatest weakness which causes stutters with the move controllers.
Always happy to see Sony low key bringing it. VR is still early in its infancy but happy to see high quality cost effective solutions that will receive good support and push innovation thanks to Sonys clout and resources.
Watching this cracking review shortly after the price drop to £350. Very, very tempted to pop to Argos in a minute...
Go for it, I just did and it’s amazing. I love the theater mode playing retro games, you can resize the screen too.
I really wish this price drop was in my country (your neighbor the Netherlands) 😭
@@JKSmith-qs2ii I'll keep my fingres crossed for you friend but have you thought about potentially importing? Imagine it would still work (though someone better informed than me would need to check).
For what it's worth, whilst you might be lacking in VR discounts I'm just jealous of where you reside. I pop to the Netherlands when finances afford - beautiful country!
@@BearlyRegal I’ve tried ordering from the UK, but seems there’s no shipping options to here. I’m also worried the EU might heavily tax me for importing goods from outside EU as they are known to do. All good though, there might just not be any sales here because there aren’t any units perhaps.
One another great thing about this
IT HAS A FAN PREVENTING FROM FOG AND SWEAT
Almost no one mention that, tho
oh really, thats great
who said?
@@enzoman444 it's in the teardown
It will not really be able to prevent sweat. It will provide less fog hopefully but do not expect too much from it.
That would be amazing. I have the first Vive and the fogging was really annoying. On warm days it wasn't really usable for me.
Thanks DF! Now the hypetrain has also reached me and I can wait even less for my PSVR2 to arrive hopefully on time for the release 🙂.
Excellent review. I hope 3D Movies support becomes available.
So much this!!
YES! It sucks that even movies that had 3D Theatrical releases have stopped being released on 3D BluRay... I'm hoping the proliferation of all these 3D VR Headsets will result in a larger market of consumers looking for new 3D movie content to watch on them!
biggest benefit of my quest 2 is 3d movies.
this looks like such a great product honestly. this is the first time I've seen a VR kit and thought "damn, if I had the disposable income right now I'd buy this immediately", and I've never been that keen on VR. unfortunately I am poor
You'll always be poor unless you change your negative mentality.
@@PSYCHOV3N0MThat isn’t a negative mentality, it is just an admission of present fact.
I value your opinion on tech the most John. Absolutely buzzing watching this! (P.S. I've also used the Fez soundtrack in many of my videos in the past, great taste)
Even though it comes across as expensive from a games console point of view. In comparison with a PC spec version it's value for money then!
It just needs the software, I'm sure that once DF play GT 7 it'll be the killer app until more games are released
So impressive, thank you John!
Pumped for Theatre mode! Honestly one of the most underrated features
dude laying back on the couch watching a movie is gonna be dope
except it;s only 1080p on PSVR2 it's not "underrated" it's a bit poo if you already have a decent TV.
@@Dreadpirateflappy I'm disappointed in that as well but so far everyone says it looks great. We shall see.
Honestly, I don't think VR necessarily needs massive amounts of games. What it needs is "killer apps", Games that are so amazing that you will go back to hem, over and over again. I have played ~600hours on my Reverb G2 and I have spent most of my time with Half Life Alyx + mods, Beat Saber, Skyrim VR + mods, and Assetto Corsa... even after 3 years, I am not tired of these four games. For PSVR2 I think the current "killer app" is actually Grand Turismo 7, a game like that really has infinite replayability if you love racing. No Man's Sky can probably also be a killer app as I can see a lot of people on Steam having 500+ hours invested. Games like these only become more engaging in VR and preferably if you play with other people and have a great time together!
I wasn't going to jump on day one, without PC support confirmed, but man I've just been surrounding myself in info about the headset and couldn't resist. My pre-order is preparing for shipment and I'm so excited for next week.
Hardware wise it literally checks everything I've wanted from a VR headset. Foveated rendering and Eye tracking being the most niche parts of my list. Foveated rendering seemed like a no-brainer for performance to be and EYE TRACKING is a GAME CHANGER. It looks so natural to be able to navigate menus and gameplay scenarios with by using sight to inform intent; way better than awkwardly trying to point your whole head at a giant menu button, instead boxes can be very small and you still maintain extreme precision with your selections.
@@JerryFlowersIII Indeed. It seems like a great package, now if only Sony added PC support in the future...
@@JerryFlowersIII YEP! The eye tracking seems like a major change to the way you can interact with a game, and I bet we'll see a ton of games using it in some amazing ways!
Excellent excellent review John. Very informative and detailed. I highly appreciate it.
Excellent review as usual, John. Now I'm even more excited to get my hands on this next week!
My favourite review out of them all. Thanks for your reasonable and informative take on the device!
In Australia it can be purchased from quite a few places.
Great point no one points out but you guys did! Original psvr with controller costed 499$ this one includes both for 549$ so no one should complain about the pricing that much when comparing
The review i was waiting for! Ty for the amazing review John, i knew you would be gushing about the OLED HDR screen, it seems to be trully impressive coming from you knowing how finicky your tastes are haha. Graphics in Horizon look amazing for a VR game, its a shame that you did not get games like RE8, Kayak VR or GT7 during the review process though.
Dualsense controllers are such a big leap over Move controllers, if you come from PSVR1 then you will finally feel what proper VR controllers feel like and it seems the haptics really add to the immersion although i would have liked you better described the sensation for the headset haptics, can they simulate say rain in your head? From the official tech breakdown the haptic motor on the headset seemed to me like a classic rumble motor from old, maybe im wrong.
Only complain i have John is that you complained about the price a bit too much imo, at least i would have liked you put into perspective the price and features of the headset with actual PC VR competitors. I also feel you missed talking about the game lineup from the perspective of someone new to VR (this is actually something a lot of reviewers fail to do).
Same here, the tech vs price point is a VALUE and when compared to similar quality headsets a STEAL. The PC headsets that match PSVR2 are over a GRAND!
The problem with making it compatible with PC, at least for now, is that... what is in it for Sony? You look at other VR headset pricing and the ones with similar features are more expensive, thus while I doubt they take a loss from every unit, but they probably don't take a lot of profit from selling it. They obviously want PSVR2 to draw people into Sony ecosystem or at least buy more software from the PS store.
What can happen I think in the future if it ended up stagnating, then they should open PSVR2 to PC because at the very least they can make a bit more money and at the same time hoping for some people that purchase it for PC use only will end up buying PS5.
Mannnnnn I want this headset but I heard some people complain the image quality looks like 720p at best, and that's annoying lol
Looks way better than 720 give a try
Thanks, John. Your interview on The Kojima Frequency podcast this week was also great.
I’ve heard about some technology developed recently that somewhat easily enables stereoscopic 3D display of 3D world games that were originally designed for a traditional 2D TV screen. Essentially a second camera is placed in game as the player’s other eye.
The tech was developed to bring more content to glasses-free 3D screens - however I can’t help but think it would be so cool and probably not too difficult to implement the same thing in the cinema mode for PS VR2.
It would be a nice value add for PSVR 2 and would increase the benefit of playing traditional games not designed for VR - with the headset over a traditional TV.
Perhaps some games for PS VR 1 kind of had a similar feature (you are in the world in a third person view- rather than looking in) - but I’m thinking the implementation might be better suited to cinema mode at more of a system level (viewing 3D through a virtual screen). The reason being - less risk of nausea/increased play comfort.
Curious if others may see value in this as well.
Have to say, DF is my favorite tech channel now. So nice to see, that you do this not only for money, but because you truly love talking about the tech.
Bought mine through usual retail... and it will be the cheapest vr headset I bought (controller included) ever. It's a steal!
John, in many European countries it's available in electronic stores like Media Markt etc.
Even in Canada it's available from Amazon, GameSpot to name a few.
Just got it on ebay for 250 its definitely better then the vr 1 only thing i have a problem with is i cant play all the great vr1 games on it hopefully they release astrobot and ghost giant on it
Yes ordered mine over the weekend, can't wait!!