Stop doing these harmful movements (temporarily). It's STEP 1 for improving your condition. STEP 2 is to start doing the right things, which is the focus of next week's video. STEP 3 is to gradually reintroduce performing these movements in a more healthy way, which is what we do in the CBT program.
Thank you for bringing awareness! I had a career destroying spondy event in 2004 (breakdancing) between L12-L1.. I always look fit, so people did not believe I was injured.. at the time could not find any info on it. internet/youtube didn't help.. doctor just said. take a rest. after six month went to a chiropractor ( that did help though should have been in combo with core stability exercises). Most frustrating thing is people think all is good with you and your just overreacting.. If ever you know where I can get a adamtium wolverine spine. please tell. Thank you
This makes all the sense in the world! Thank you! I’ve been to multiple doctors and trainers over 3 years, MRIs, shots in my back, recommended fusion surgery, massage, chiropractic care, etc, etc, etc, and yet No One knew any of this. I am SO thankful for this video and how it sums it all up beautifully ✨
3 years since my TLIF L4-L5. This changed my life, about a week after surgery I woke up without pain for the first time in my adult life. I guess I'm one of the few successful ones. At 59 now I'm lifting heavy weights and putting on muscle. I am worried about adjacent joint failure if I don't move and lift correctly and you comments here make so much sense to me.
@@lisaallen9339 Resistance training i .e. lifting heavy things raises heart rate very quickly. This guys advice about resisting back motion is so important in saving future injury.
Damn. Looks like I’ve been doing all the wrong stretches. No wonder my sciatica seems to be worsening, even with anti inflammatory medication. Thanks for the helpful video
I took up judo 15 years ago. I was petrified given my lower back issues. Today, at 50, I'm fitter and stronger than ever. I'm not pain free. But equally I'm not ruled by pain or the fear of pain. My advice? Just get after it!
Firstly, I want to express my gratitude for creating this video. I am still grappling with understanding how to manage the situation. My 9-year-old son slipped on a tile floor, and four days later, following an X-ray, both an Adult Spine Surgeon and a Pediatric Spine Surgeon informed me that he has a Pars defect and Spondylolisthesis. The Adult Spine Surgeon believes surgery may be necessary sooner or later. On the other hand, the Pediatric Spine Surgeon has prescribed physical therapy along with 400 MG Tylenol and Aleve. His physical therapy is being conducted by a PT/MPT, so I am uncertain whether transitioning to PT/DPT/OCS would offer additional benefits. It has been 7 PT visits, and there has been no improvement. He has not been able to do core exercises such as the Forearm Plank. I would like to learn what exercises he can do to strengthen his core. He has a tight left hamstring, which he has been working on.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your son's situation with us; it's very helpful. I believe the program can be beneficial for your son. The gentle exercises are designed to raise awareness and activate deep core muscles. This foundational work can pave the way for more advanced core-strengthening exercises, like the forearm plank, which require heightened muscle engagement. It could be the perfect progression for him. If you're interested, we offer a free 7-day trial of our program that you can check out to see if it might be a good fit for your son. Please let us know, and we'd be happy to assist.
I almost never comment on any video, but your comment hit home for me, so I figured I’d share my experience: When I was 12, I had an L4 and L5 pars fracture and spondylolisthesis. After over a year of PT exercises and bracing, there was no healing. So I had a surgery called a pars repair. There are now two screws and a wire in my lower back. I then did another full year of PT, and eventually got back to swimming competitively. I’m now 32, cycle, lift weights, rock climb, and I’m nearly pain-free. I have little pain flare-ups every now and then if I over-extend my lower back, but overall, I’m in great health. I had a minor disc tear down there a few years ago that was pretty rough and set me back a bit, but I’m fully recovered from that now. Long story short, don’t give up hope! I don’t know if surgery is the right option for your kid, but I do know that life is long and medicine and the human body are amazing. Rooting for y’all!
Bless you for this video ❤ I'm 48 and in good shape and eat well. Within 1 1/2 years following my total hysto with oomph I have been diagnosed with following: spondy, stenosis, scoliosis, 2 bulging discs, Sjogren's, thyroid disease, FAI/labrum tear from hip impingement, osteoporosis and knee problems from hips (tibia slides inward). I take all the hormones needed to function normally, immune suppressants, 2 eye meds, and necessary supplements. Begrudgingly I'm going to get a cortizone injection in spine for stenosis. It should also help determine what pain is coming from back and hip. I dread having another surgery but might need to get arthroscopic for right hip. Anyways, my point is you never ever know from the outside what someone is going through. I was one of those tough love people that seem to sympathize from the outside but inside I was telling them to buck up. I can't tell you how much empathy and humility that I have acquired. Now I am on the other side wishing people would support me more. Oh, well! 🥴
Same here! Free weights 4xs a week. 49 years old- really fit and healthy for my age. Passing judgment on others for not taking care of their bodies and complaining about pain and ailments. Now Im scheduled for a MRI for relentless back pain that has lasted 40 days. Truly a humbling situation. God has a plan and a purpose for my life and to deliver through this. I also am learning Humility and empathy for others along the way. God bless you and may you find healing and peace.
This is an excellent video! I was reviewing my medical records from a PMSA PET scan I had earlier this year and when it got to the part where it talked about my bones, it mentioned Spondylolisthesis and a pars fracture in my L5. I knew I had some lower back pain but had never had it looked at by a medical professional. Now, I have made an appointment in a few weeks to get my spondy looked at and see if there's a treatment for it.
Thank you!!! I was getting ready to purchase a back support for the car. This makes so much sense!! I am suffering with this and am starting to get relief with meds and gentle exercises.
Thank you for the video. If people see this video first, they would save their spine, instead of hurting it. I have been doing just the opposite of what was said in the video, thinking that that would make the spine better. I was completely wrong Thank you for the video. Now I can stop doing the wrong things and begin to do the right things.
It feels good to do stomach rolls for me or bend over a chair like it feeks better to my spine to push up and out as opposed to down and in i think thats why i love those stomach rolls / beding over chair etc. I have anterolistists spondylothesis L5S1 with lordosis
I used to lay on my bed on my stomach at the end of the day. I could not get up after doing that and had to roll to get up. MRI showed grade one spondi. This has been helpful. I need exercises to help me strengthen my back. Most comfortable standing up.
Thanks a lot. The whole time was over postur'ing by too much straight sitting by a bit of backward bending (just like putting back supports) and not releived. Now I can clearly see what to avoid.
I’ve had this all my life since 18 yrs old,whilst working in the mines Australia,I am now 60yrs and surf, so cobra pose is essential to get my feet quickly, I have periods when I’m fine , my back is always nigley😢 more than good, I’ve tried all the exercises on RUclips , 😢
I was one who had the surgery and I very humbly say-it worked. I have no pain. However- I use to jog-and circuit train to keep in shape. It’s been 6 years since surgery and due to wrong food choices and very little “hard/workouts” exercises -I have gained weight. I’m looking to restrengthen again. I use to enjoy circuit training. Now I’m kinda scared I’m going to “do the wrong move-and mess myself up!” I use to be in pain always at at least a 4, then shoot to 10 at least once a month-maintaining at 6. It would take 3-4 days to get down to a 6 from a 10. Once since then, while leaning forward to brush my dog, the next vertebra up slipped. It took 3 days to get back to “normal”. I was using a walker. All the videos you say “not” to do…HURT when I look at them!!! Some times “well meaning folk”-tell me to “push through”-I have a few curse words I don’t normally use that want to come out of me. This confirms and validates my own experiences, and people who “think” they are helping-could really be incapacitating people to their detriment.
Thank you for the video and thank's for the insight. I had a surgeon at UC Davis forcefully push my lumbar when I was laying down, the pain was unbelievable and lasted for months. I can see in your video how that was the one thing that should never have been done. Oddly the same thing happens, only less severe, if I use an inversion table or hang by my arms, and relax my midsection. After a step or two away from the table I can feel the vertebra/disc move back to where it was before the stretch. A very small move but the pain can still be there for days or weeks.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you've been through a lot, and I'm sorry to hear about the pain you've endured. I hope you've been able to recover since then. 💙
Its almost like we can do nothing. I am a dancer and yoga person , i had to stop everything after i was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis grade 1. Its so painful. I feel so restricted.
Oh my goodness that is why I am very uncomfortable with a pillow behind my back or the lumbar support while driving or sitting. Thank you for explaining it. I have a level 3 spondy and was never told this, just told you need a fusion - um no!
As an avid yogi just diagnosed with L4/L5 spondy this is very difficult to accept. I know what I need to do for my body tho. Thank you for the informative video and suggestions. Time for a lifestyle change😎
Hi Terra, thank you so much for sharing your situation, and I can imagine how difficult it might be to accept the diagnosis. It takes a lot of strength to acknowledge the need for a lifestyle change. 💙 I want to reassure you that the movements Dr. Ryan mentioned in the video are meant to be avoided temporarily as you focus on improving your condition. Dr. Ryan believes that yoga can be very beneficial, especially when you learn how to properly support the spine - and that's precisely what we teach in the CBT program. Towards the end of the program, we guide you to incorporate standing poses like warrior and more. The final exercise lesson focuses on integrating core anchors into a yoga pose. However, we introduce these gradually, at the end of the course, and only after you've learned how to move in a healthy, core-centered way. There is hope for you to get back to doing yoga! 😊
Spondy L4/5 grade II unstable and lifted overhead a little too much. My pain is just as much with forward flexion but right in the hip joint and up thru right side of back..the worst is where the knobby areas in my very low back
Thank you so much. This is a great video. This is what I suffer from. Can this be healed? Can the ligaments that provide support be strengthened to their original strength so pain doesn’t occur? This is negative effecting my life as n so many ways. Again, great video, thank you.
Thank you for your question, Joesph! If the underlying causes that lead to spondylolisthesis are not addressed, it has the potential to worsen over time. While it's not always possible to reverse the condition entirely, you can address and reverse the root causes that led to spondylolisthesis in the first place. By doing so, you can take steps to manage it and potentially slow its progression, which can promote healing. Our program does just that - it addresses the root cause of spondylolisthesis. Dr. Ryan actually has spondylolisthesis grade 1-2, and designed this program to address this issue specifically. Dr. Ryan was able to bring his body into alignment as he developed the program. He used the same movements that are now taught in the program to reduce the pressure on his spine. As the space between the vertebrae was gently increased, Dr. Ryan experienced a life-changing reduction in pain. When you bring the body into alignment, the body can heal. 😊
Thanks bro... I just found out I have spondy and retro and facet joint arthritis L2 to L5 im only 35 and dont play sport not sure yet whats going on, needed to heaar this
Thanks for this! Just joined CBT so am excited to learn from you. I assume your comments in the video also apply to the retrolisthesis version of spondy----i.e., avoid extensions like Cobra even if the top vertebra is slipping *backward* on the bottom one rather than forward?
I am curious about this also, as I have both versions of spondy. The following is quoted from x-ray results: "Anterolisthesis of L4 and L5 measuring 3 mm, unchanged on flexion and extension. Retrolisthesis of L5 on S1 measuring 2 mm, unchanged on flexion and extension." I've got other structural changes/damage as well.
My doctor said to after bed rest ......you should sleep on stomach side and raise your each leg 5 times and after that raise your head and both legs and put your hand back ....... After that change your position on back side and raise your each legs and knee to chest exercise.....and Head and both legs raise exercise......m i going right direction ?
Hi there, that's a great question! Since everyone is different, Dr. Ryan recommends listening to your body and deciding based on the communication it sends. Feelings of relief indicate that the body can do these things, and feelings of pain or discomfort indicate that the body does not like a particular movement. I would also mention that doing movements that involve repetitive flexion without proper core engagement can be very taxing, even in a healthy spine or one with a prior fusion. We always recommend learning how to perform these movements in a healthy, core-centered way to protect the spine from a potential reoccurrence. I hope this information is helpful!
Wow, mi kinesiologo estaba haciéndome ese ejercicio de la pelota hacia los giros laterales 😢. Ya no sé en quién confiar. Se puede estirar con una tabla de inversión? Tengo spondy en la l5
I have been diagnosed with spodylolysis and doctor suggested me physical therapy and brace and it's been 3 months since i am following all exercises and i am feeling better but i want to be fit and do some exercise like push ups so can you tell me if i can do so.
Yes, absolutely! The activities recommended to avoid for spondylolisthesis would also benefit bulging discs while you work on improving your condition. 😊
Hi Stoic, thank you for your comment! Inversion tables are not a clear or obvious solution if your body is out of balance. If you have really tight hip flexors, a common anatomical adaptation that many individuals with back issues such as spondylolisthesis exhibit, they may be pulling on the spine. When you hang from your ankles or your feet, it may put a lot of force on your spine, potentially causing it to become more misaligned. What can happen in many cases is an increase in the hyperlordotic curve, which may further irritate the spondylolisthesis as well.
What causes it to become straight cause that's my issues the lower lumber that's suppose to have a slight curve is straight and I do walk and it's not always fun because the pain just comes outta nowhere
Hi Frederich, absolutely! You can find the video with the solution right here: ruclips.net/video/rYFOwxhI3OM/видео.html. Enjoy watching and learning! 😊
Thank you for your kind words, Saumya! Yes, it should be okay to do planks with spondy as long as you maintain your core connection throughout the plank and listen to your body. We teach 2 different methods of planking while staying connected to the core, and it can be a safe and effective movement if done correctly. Thank you for watching!
@@CoreBalance thanks for your response 😊 can you please help me with what those methods are? I am afraid of doing prone planks coz I have anteriolithesis.
Since you have spondy, you'll still want to avoid these exacerbating movements for a period of time. In addition, because of the osteopenia, you'll want to strengthen your bones (or stop the progression of weakening) by very gradually exposing your bones to increasing levels of weight-bearing. It's the only way to get bones stronger. You'll have to be very cautious about over-stressing the bones and causing a fracture, so you'll have to start very light and gradually increase weight over a long period of time.
I just want to walk better. I have grade 2 which caused lordosis and I can barely walk. Im cane bound. Congenital bilateral pars defects started it all.
So what about retrolisthesis. I have that. I also have spinal stenosis, ddd and facet joint arthropathy all in my lumbar vertebrae. My doctor wonders why I say I'm in pain. I feel like my life is over. 😢 I can't take anymore ibuprofen because it's destroyed my stomach and intestines. I'm just 70. I haven't been able to enjoy going for a walk for about 15 years. What a waste of my life! I'm over it!! 😢😢
@@JosepCasals-x8k I I was in pain often from it and the course helped me be able to control the spasms that I was getting in my lower back and strengthen the core muscles. At my age,65, and from years of back pain, I haven't enjoyed any physical sports. I used to love to run, but many, many years ago I was told that I shouldn't because of the spondy, so I quit that too. :-( However, when I was in the course, I felt like I could probably consider light running but I'm afraid to give it a try because of osteoporosis too. I still try to keep up the movements in the course because they were life changing. The times that I have slacked off for a while, I start to feel the back muscles in pain and it takes me a while to get strong again, and I get frustrated at myself because it's not even difficult to keep up the core strengthening. I hope, if you haven't tried it already, to at least give the first week a try. I could see fairly quickly that it would help and I'm glad that I gave the course a shot. It's legit.
I have a severe degenerative disc and also have Spondy. I have been doing lots of back exercises (approved by my Physical Therapist) such as back extensions, Romanian Dead Lifts with lightweight, Kettlebell squats, a Back extension machine at the gym, Dumbell Deadlifts (lightweight), and squats. He told me not to do any flexion exercises like the ab machine. I started working out at the gym in July, and I do have days where it feels better, but most of it feels worse. I have been debating on having the surgery because the pain is so bad. I wake up and am fine and a few minutes later after standing up my back gets so stiff that I can't bend over. I notice when I go in the mornings to the gym and do something like the elliptical, it feels a lot better and loose until I start lifting. I have 5 days of splits, Chest/Shoulders, Legs, Back, cardio, then bicep/tricep. So should I quit all the back exercises for now?
Hi there, thank you so much for your comment! It sounds like you've been dedicated to your exercises, but considering the increasing discomfort and the potential surgery, taking a temporary break might be a good approach. Sometimes our bodies need a break to recover, and that's okay. Dr. Ryan often speaks about the importance of listening to your body's signals. If the elliptical is providing relief and keeping you feeling better, it could be a good idea to focus more on activities like that for now. It's important to find what works best for your body and helps manage your pain. I hope this information is helpful!
I have Spondy. It is congenital. My uncle said it is the "Old (family name) Back" , I was in wrestling in my freshman year of HS. That's when I was diagnosed with it. I saw the illustration of the guy on the floor hands and arms extended up, and legs and feet also extended off the floor. That was one position we had to work on in wrestling, but we also had to rock on our belly for several reps and I remember that being the hardest exercise we did. Eventually I had to drop out when I was diagnosed. I had severe back pain and ended up in bed for 3 weeks so I could heal. I have had little trouble with it for years afterward and always worked labor jobs but now my back has become a problem and is very weak. I am 73 in February. I don't know whether I need a softer or harder mattress, but something has to change so, do you have a suggestion which may be best for me? I have tried to sleep on a wedge and sometimes it seems to help but not always. I will appreciate anything you can suggest. Thank you, Rb
Hi Ron, thank you for sharing your situation with us. Dr. Ryan recommends the Medium-firm Tempur-Pedic mattress for individuals dealing with back pain. This type of mattress is often considered a good balance between support and comfort. I'd also like to share a video with you that provides helpful tips for sleeping positions when experiencing back pain. You can watch it by following this link: ruclips.net/video/nVG-dHMIojU/видео.html. I hope you find these suggestions beneficial. Thank you for watching!
Hi there, thank you for your comment! In many cases, gentle myofascial release techniques, such as foam rolling (featured in the program), can be appropriate for individuals with spondylolisthesis. This technique can help improve mobility and reduce muscle tension without causing undue strain on the spine. The severity and location of the spondylolisthesis, as well as any associated symptoms or complications, can vary among individuals. Therefore, it's essential to tailor myofascial release techniques to each person's specific needs, encouraging listening to your body and not pushing through any pain you may feel.
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Stop doing these harmful movements (temporarily). It's STEP 1 for improving your condition. STEP 2 is to start doing the right things, which is the focus of next week's video. STEP 3 is to gradually reintroduce performing these movements in a more healthy way, which is what we do in the CBT program.
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Thank you! Where to learn about the CBT Program?
Thank you for bringing awareness! I had a career destroying spondy event in 2004 (breakdancing) between L12-L1.. I always look fit, so people did not believe I was injured.. at the time could not find any info on it. internet/youtube didn't help.. doctor just said. take a rest. after six month went to a chiropractor ( that did help though should have been in combo with core stability exercises). Most frustrating thing is people think all is good with you and your just overreacting..
If ever you know where I can get a adamtium wolverine spine. please tell. Thank you
What is the CBT program?
This makes all the sense in the world! Thank you! I’ve been to multiple doctors and trainers over 3 years, MRIs, shots in my back, recommended fusion surgery, massage, chiropractic care, etc, etc, etc, and yet No One knew any of this. I am SO thankful for this video and how it sums it all up beautifully ✨
3 years since my TLIF L4-L5. This changed my life, about a week after surgery I woke up without pain for the first time in my adult life. I guess I'm one of the few successful ones. At 59 now I'm lifting heavy weights and putting on muscle. I am worried about adjacent joint failure if I don't move and lift correctly and you comments here make so much sense to me.
What do you use to get your heart rate up?
@@lisaallen9339 Resistance training i .e. lifting heavy things raises heart rate very quickly. This guys advice about resisting back motion is so important in saving future injury.
Damn. Looks like I’ve been doing all the wrong stretches. No wonder my sciatica seems to be worsening, even with anti inflammatory medication. Thanks for the helpful video
I took up judo 15 years ago. I was petrified given my lower back issues. Today, at 50, I'm fitter and stronger than ever. I'm not pain free. But equally I'm not ruled by pain or the fear of pain. My advice? Just get after it!
Firstly, I want to express my gratitude for creating this video. I am still grappling with understanding how to manage the situation. My 9-year-old son slipped on a tile floor, and four days later, following an X-ray, both an Adult Spine Surgeon and a Pediatric Spine Surgeon informed me that he has a Pars defect and Spondylolisthesis. The Adult Spine Surgeon believes surgery may be necessary sooner or later. On the other hand, the Pediatric Spine Surgeon has prescribed physical therapy along with 400 MG Tylenol and Aleve. His physical therapy is being conducted by a PT/MPT, so I am uncertain whether transitioning to PT/DPT/OCS would offer additional benefits.
It has been 7 PT visits, and there has been no improvement. He has not been able to do core exercises such as the Forearm Plank. I would like to learn what exercises he can do to strengthen his core. He has a tight left hamstring, which he has been working on.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your son's situation with us; it's very helpful. I believe the program can be beneficial for your son. The gentle exercises are designed to raise awareness and activate deep core muscles. This foundational work can pave the way for more advanced core-strengthening exercises, like the forearm plank, which require heightened muscle engagement. It could be the perfect progression for him.
If you're interested, we offer a free 7-day trial of our program that you can check out to see if it might be a good fit for your son. Please let us know, and we'd be happy to assist.
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I almost never comment on any video, but your comment hit home for me, so I figured I’d share my experience: When I was 12, I had an L4 and L5 pars fracture and spondylolisthesis. After over a year of PT exercises and bracing, there was no healing. So I had a surgery called a pars repair. There are now two screws and a wire in my lower back. I then did another full year of PT, and eventually got back to swimming competitively. I’m now 32, cycle, lift weights, rock climb, and I’m nearly pain-free. I have little pain flare-ups every now and then if I over-extend my lower back, but overall, I’m in great health. I had a minor disc tear down there a few years ago that was pretty rough and set me back a bit, but I’m fully recovered from that now. Long story short, don’t give up hope! I don’t know if surgery is the right option for your kid, but I do know that life is long and medicine and the human body are amazing. Rooting for y’all!
Bless you for this video ❤ I'm 48 and in good shape and eat well. Within 1 1/2 years following my total hysto with oomph I have been diagnosed with following: spondy, stenosis, scoliosis, 2 bulging discs, Sjogren's, thyroid disease, FAI/labrum tear from hip impingement, osteoporosis and knee problems from hips (tibia slides inward). I take all the hormones needed to function normally, immune suppressants, 2 eye meds, and necessary supplements. Begrudgingly I'm going to get a cortizone injection in spine for stenosis. It should also help determine what pain is coming from back and hip. I dread having another surgery but might need to get arthroscopic for right hip. Anyways, my point is you never ever know from the outside what someone is going through. I was one of those tough love people that seem to sympathize from the outside but inside I was telling them to buck up. I can't tell you how much empathy and humility that I have acquired. Now I am on the other side wishing people would support me more. Oh, well!
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I wish you the best in your journey. You're strong
Same here! Free weights 4xs a week. 49 years old- really fit and healthy for my age. Passing judgment on others for not taking care of their bodies and complaining about pain and ailments. Now Im scheduled for a MRI for relentless back pain that has lasted 40 days. Truly a humbling situation. God has a plan and a purpose for my life and to deliver through this. I also am learning Humility and empathy for others along the way. God bless you and may you find healing and peace.
Great explanation
Thank you!
Extremely valuable, thank you 🙏
Glad you found it valuable, you're very welcome!
This is an excellent video! I was reviewing my medical records from a PMSA PET scan I had earlier this year and when it got to the part where it talked about my bones, it mentioned Spondylolisthesis and a pars fracture in my L5. I knew I had some lower back pain but had never had it looked at by a medical professional. Now, I have made an appointment in a few weeks to get my spondy looked at and see if there's a treatment for it.
Thank you!!! I was getting ready to purchase a back support for the car. This makes so much sense!! I am suffering with this and am starting to get relief with meds and gentle exercises.
Great video! Excited for the relief techniques video coming soon!
Thank you for the video.
If people see this video first, they would save their spine, instead of hurting it.
I have been doing just the opposite of what was said in the video, thinking that that would make the spine better. I was completely wrong
Thank you for the video. Now I can stop doing the wrong things and begin to do the right things.
Hi there,
You are not alone with this! Unlearning is a process, and I am glad I have been able to bring you some insight. Thank you for your comment!
It feels good to do stomach rolls for me or bend over a chair like it feeks better to my spine to push up and out as opposed to down and in i think thats why i love those stomach rolls / beding over chair etc. I have anterolistists spondylothesis L5S1 with lordosis
I used to lay on my bed on my stomach at the end of the day. I could not get up after doing that and had to roll to get up. MRI showed grade one spondi. This has been helpful. I need exercises to help me strengthen my back.
Most comfortable standing up.
same here, i have grade two spondi, just found it last week from MRI scan. is there any recomendation from your doctor to cure your grade one spondi?
same here, after walking for 15,20 min if i sit, i get pain for upto 15, 20 minutes. Even changing position during sleep causes back pain ..
Xctly. Those were the yoga exercises I used to do. Almost all of them.😢. Since my teens. Ignorantly, now I understand. Thanks a lot.
Thanks a lot. The whole time was over postur'ing by too much straight sitting by a bit of backward bending (just like putting back supports) and not releived. Now I can clearly see what to avoid.
The best videos I’ve watched …thank you so much!!!
I’ve had this all my life since 18 yrs old,whilst working in the mines Australia,I am now 60yrs and surf, so cobra pose is essential to get my feet quickly, I have periods when I’m fine , my back is always nigley😢 more than good, I’ve tried all the exercises on RUclips , 😢
Your wisdom feels like an answer to prayers.
Thank you very much for your kind words, August. I'm glad to hear that the information feels like an answer to your prayers. Thank you for watching! 💙
I feel so understood and validated! Thank you🙏🏽
This...
I was one who had the surgery and I very humbly say-it worked. I have no pain.
However-
I use to jog-and circuit train to keep in shape.
It’s been 6 years since surgery and due to wrong food choices and very little “hard/workouts” exercises -I have gained weight. I’m looking to restrengthen again.
I use to enjoy circuit training. Now I’m kinda scared I’m going to “do the wrong move-and mess myself up!”
I use to be in pain always at at least a 4, then shoot to 10 at least once a month-maintaining at 6. It would take 3-4 days to get down to a 6 from a 10.
Once since then, while leaning forward to brush my dog, the next vertebra up slipped. It took 3 days to get back to “normal”. I was using a walker.
All the videos you say “not” to do…HURT when I look at them!!! Some times “well meaning folk”-tell me to “push through”-I have a few curse words I don’t normally use that want to come out of me.
This confirms and validates my own experiences, and people who “think” they are helping-could really be incapacitating people to their detriment.
Thank you for educating us!
Glad to help! Thank you for watching!
Thank you. Seriously informative, to the point. What a relief to get this information.
Thank you for the video and thank's for the insight. I had a surgeon at UC Davis forcefully push my lumbar when I was laying down, the pain was unbelievable and lasted for months. I can see in your video how that was the one thing that should never have been done. Oddly the same thing happens, only less severe, if I use an inversion table or hang by my arms, and relax my midsection. After a step or two away from the table I can feel the vertebra/disc move back to where it was before the stretch. A very small move but the pain can still be there for days or weeks.
Hi there, thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you've been through a lot, and I'm sorry to hear about the pain you've endured. I hope you've been able to recover since then. 💙
what about pull-ups and relaxing the mid-section?
Best explanation ever
SO which excercises must i do then bro?
This is so helpful. I almost have spondy in L5, but I'm going to correct it with this in mind
Hai. how do u feel now? Am having this at L5 S1, grade 2.
Its almost like we can do nothing. I am a dancer and yoga person , i had to stop everything after i was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis grade 1. Its so painful. I feel so restricted.
i genuinely dont know what to do and I'm gaining weight.
So glad I found this vid
Thank you for watching! Glad to have you here! 😊
Wow, thank you, I have been getting more pain and I could not figure out what I did wrong,
Glad to hear the video was been helpful! Thank you for watching!
Thank yoi, but please make a video of what we can do. According to this video, it takes away a lot i do.
Oh my goodness that is why I am very uncomfortable with a pillow behind my back or the lumbar support while driving or sitting. Thank you for explaining it. I have a level 3 spondy and was never told this, just told you need a fusion - um no!
As an avid yogi just diagnosed with L4/L5 spondy this is very difficult to accept. I know what I need to do for my body tho. Thank you for the informative video and suggestions. Time for a lifestyle change😎
Hi Terra, thank you so much for sharing your situation, and I can imagine how difficult it might be to accept the diagnosis. It takes a lot of strength to acknowledge the need for a lifestyle change. 💙
I want to reassure you that the movements Dr. Ryan mentioned in the video are meant to be avoided temporarily as you focus on improving your condition. Dr. Ryan believes that yoga can be very beneficial, especially when you learn how to properly support the spine - and that's precisely what we teach in the CBT program.
Towards the end of the program, we guide you to incorporate standing poses like warrior and more. The final exercise lesson focuses on integrating core anchors into a yoga pose. However, we introduce these gradually, at the end of the course, and only after you've learned how to move in a healthy, core-centered way.
There is hope for you to get back to doing yoga! 😊
I have this and adjustments make me feel much better so I'm curious if it's not good for others with this .
So helpful!
Hi Carol Ann,
I am so glad you enjoyed this video!
Thanks A Lot 🙏
Thank you, thank you, thank you. OMG. ❤
Great video! Thank you very much!
You're very welcome! Thank you for being here. 😊
Question- are water rowers okay to use or would it put too much space for slippage?
Spondy L4/5 grade II unstable and lifted overhead a little too much. My pain is just as much with forward flexion but right in the hip joint and up thru right side of back..the worst is where the knobby areas in my very low back
I am feeling better when I bend my body slightly forward. I am old patient of L4-L5 S1 Slip Disc Bulge
Thank you so much. This is a great video. This is what I suffer from. Can this be healed? Can the ligaments that provide support be strengthened to their original strength so pain doesn’t occur? This is negative effecting my life as n so many ways. Again, great video, thank you.
Thank you for your question, Joesph! If the underlying causes that lead to spondylolisthesis are not addressed, it has the potential to worsen over time. While it's not always possible to reverse the condition entirely, you can address and reverse the root causes that led to spondylolisthesis in the first place. By doing so, you can take steps to manage it and potentially slow its progression, which can promote healing.
Our program does just that - it addresses the root cause of spondylolisthesis. Dr. Ryan actually has spondylolisthesis grade 1-2, and designed this program to address this issue specifically. Dr. Ryan was able to bring his body into alignment as he developed the program. He used the same movements that are now taught in the program to reduce the pressure on his spine. As the space between the vertebrae was gently increased, Dr. Ryan experienced a life-changing reduction in pain. When you bring the body into alignment, the body can heal. 😊
This is brilliant … I’m going to give your course a try! Spondy here
Glad to hear it! We're excited to have you join! 😊
Thanks!
Thank you so much for the tip, Jennifer! Your generosity and support are much appreciated. 💙
Thanks bro... I just found out I have spondy and retro and facet joint arthritis L2 to L5 im only 35 and dont play sport not sure yet whats going on, needed to heaar this
Thanks for this! Just joined CBT so am excited to learn from you. I assume your comments in the video also apply to the retrolisthesis version of spondy----i.e., avoid extensions like Cobra even if the top vertebra is slipping *backward* on the bottom one rather than forward?
I am curious about this also, as I have both versions of spondy. The following is quoted from x-ray results: "Anterolisthesis of L4 and L5 measuring 3 mm, unchanged on flexion and extension. Retrolisthesis of L5 on S1 measuring 2 mm, unchanged on flexion and extension." I've got other structural changes/damage as well.
Makes sense
I am curious. How can I know for sure sure if I have spondylitis, or SI joint problems ? Thanks
Great video❤
Thank you for watching!
Good explanation. But how much time does grate1 take to heal and pain free to live a normal life
What is the correct movements?
what about deadlifts and squats with weight. In last days i felt like my pain in left leg went away when i started doing those movements
This is me,, a yoga practioner who did too many backbends..
My doctor said to after bed rest ......you should sleep on stomach side and raise your each leg 5 times and after that raise your head and both legs and put your hand back .......
After that change your position on back side and raise your each legs and knee to chest exercise.....and Head and both legs raise exercise......m i going right direction ?
Thanks, I have a spongy l5s1 ugh
Amazing
I have grade 2 spondy that was fused when I was 13 (L4-L5-S1). Do these guidelines still apply if you have a fusion to stabilize it?
Hi there, that's a great question! Since everyone is different, Dr. Ryan recommends listening to your body and deciding based on the communication it sends. Feelings of relief indicate that the body can do these things, and feelings of pain or discomfort indicate that the body does not like a particular movement.
I would also mention that doing movements that involve repetitive flexion without proper core engagement can be very taxing, even in a healthy spine or one with a prior fusion. We always recommend learning how to perform these movements in a healthy, core-centered way to protect the spine from a potential reoccurrence.
I hope this information is helpful!
What about a Spondylolythesis that slipped toward the spinal cord?
Hi, I have spondy on L5 S1, your training is stil good in my situation ?
Wow, mi kinesiologo estaba haciéndome ese ejercicio de la pelota hacia los giros laterales 😢. Ya no sé en quién confiar. Se puede estirar con una tabla de inversión? Tengo spondy en la l5
Does this apply in reverse for retrolesthesis? Have you done a video on retro?
So are saying couch stretches on the hip flexors are bad too?
I have Herniated discs so does this apply to me as well?
I have been diagnosed with spodylolysis and doctor suggested me physical therapy and brace and it's been 3 months since i am following all exercises and i am feeling better but i want to be fit and do some exercise like push ups so can you tell me if i can do so.
Sir very nise
Just wondering if it's possible to keep this in mind and still try to counter discbulding?
Yes, absolutely! The activities recommended to avoid for spondylolisthesis would also benefit bulging discs while you work on improving your condition. 😊
What you think about inverse table to who has Spondylolisthesis grade 2?
Hi Stoic, thank you for your comment! Inversion tables are not a clear or obvious solution if your body is out of balance. If you have really tight hip flexors, a common anatomical adaptation that many individuals with back issues such as spondylolisthesis exhibit, they may be pulling on the spine. When you hang from your ankles or your feet, it may put a lot of force on your spine, potentially causing it to become more misaligned. What can happen in many cases is an increase in the hyperlordotic curve, which may further irritate the spondylolisthesis as well.
What do you think about sleeping on the floor ? On the back position
Thanks for your comment! Dr. Ryan recommends a medium-firm mattress for sleeping, especially if you prefer sleeping on your back. I hope this helps!
What causes it to become straight cause that's my issues the lower lumber that's suppose to have a slight curve is straight and I do walk and it's not always fun because the pain just comes outta nowhere
Do you have a link to the video with the solution?
Hi Frederich, absolutely! You can find the video with the solution right here: ruclips.net/video/rYFOwxhI3OM/видео.html. Enjoy watching and learning! 😊
Such a great content 😊 i would like to know if it's okay to do planks with spondy .
Thank you for your kind words, Saumya! Yes, it should be okay to do planks with spondy as long as you maintain your core connection throughout the plank and listen to your body. We teach 2 different methods of planking while staying connected to the core, and it can be a safe and effective movement if done correctly. Thank you for watching!
@@CoreBalance thanks for your response 😊 can you please help me with what those methods are? I am afraid of doing prone planks coz I have anteriolithesis.
What to do if you have spondy and osteopenia at the same time at 30 yrs of age?
Since you have spondy, you'll still want to avoid these exacerbating movements for a period of time. In addition, because of the osteopenia, you'll want to strengthen your bones (or stop the progression of weakening) by very gradually exposing your bones to increasing levels of weight-bearing. It's the only way to get bones stronger. You'll have to be very cautious about over-stressing the bones and causing a fracture, so you'll have to start very light and gradually increase weight over a long period of time.
@@CoreBalance Please make a video suggesting what kind of exercises to do in such scenario. I will be very grateful.
What about anterolisthesis? Any suggestions. Just Dxd with L4 and L5 stable grade 2
You are well with spondy grade 2, what Kind of sports you can do ? Thanks
I couldn't do sports before. I have RA as well.
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I just want to walk better. I have grade 2 which caused lordosis and I can barely walk. Im cane bound.
Congenital bilateral pars defects started it all.
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So what about retrolisthesis. I have that. I also have spinal stenosis, ddd and facet joint arthropathy all in my lumbar vertebrae. My doctor wonders why I say I'm in pain. I feel like my life is over. 😢 I can't take anymore ibuprofen because it's destroyed my stomach and intestines. I'm just 70. I haven't been able to enjoy going for a walk for about 15 years. What a waste of my life! I'm over it!! 😢😢
Please get a referral for a specialist, Primary care doctor's are not trained or knowledgeable on this disease
I'm at a grade 2, L5-S .
Are you well with spondy grade 2, do you have pain ?. What kind of sports can you do ? Thanks
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I was in pain often from it and the course helped me be able to control the spasms that I was getting in my lower back and strengthen the core muscles.
At my age,65, and from years of back pain, I haven't enjoyed any physical sports. I used to love to run, but many, many years ago I was told that I shouldn't because of the spondy, so I quit that too. :-(
However, when I was in the course, I felt like I could probably consider light running but I'm afraid to give it a try because of osteoporosis too.
I still try to keep up the movements in the course because they were life changing. The times that I have slacked off for a while, I start to feel the back muscles in pain and it takes me a while to get strong again, and I get frustrated at myself because it's not even difficult to keep up the core strengthening.
I hope, if you haven't tried it already, to at least give the first week a try. I could see fairly quickly that it would help and I'm glad that I gave the course a shot. It's legit.
So now I get idea how I broke the bone of L5 clearly. These exercises 😢
I'm so sorry to hear that, Daniel! I hope you've been able to recover since then. 💙
I have a severe degenerative disc and also have Spondy. I have been doing lots of back exercises (approved by my Physical Therapist) such as back extensions, Romanian Dead Lifts with lightweight, Kettlebell squats, a Back extension machine at the gym, Dumbell Deadlifts (lightweight), and squats. He told me not to do any flexion exercises like the ab machine. I started working out at the gym in July, and I do have days where it feels better, but most of it feels worse. I have been debating on having the surgery because the pain is so bad. I wake up and am fine and a few minutes later after standing up my back gets so stiff that I can't bend over. I notice when I go in the mornings to the gym and do something like the elliptical, it feels a lot better and loose until I start lifting. I have 5 days of splits, Chest/Shoulders, Legs, Back, cardio, then bicep/tricep. So should I quit all the back exercises for now?
Hi there, thank you so much for your comment! It sounds like you've been dedicated to your exercises, but considering the increasing discomfort and the potential surgery, taking a temporary break might be a good approach. Sometimes our bodies need a break to recover, and that's okay. Dr. Ryan often speaks about the importance of listening to your body's signals. If the elliptical is providing relief and keeping you feeling better, it could be a good idea to focus more on activities like that for now. It's important to find what works best for your body and helps manage your pain. I hope this information is helpful!
@@CoreBalance Thanks 🙏
I have Spondy. It is congenital. My uncle said it is the "Old (family name) Back" , I was in wrestling in my freshman year of HS. That's when I was diagnosed with it. I saw the illustration of the guy on the floor hands and arms extended up, and legs and feet also extended off the floor. That was one position we had to work on in wrestling, but we also had to rock on our belly for several reps and I remember that being the hardest exercise we did. Eventually I had to drop out when I was diagnosed. I had severe back pain and ended up in bed for 3 weeks so I could heal. I have had little trouble with it for years afterward and always worked labor jobs but now my back has become a problem and is very weak. I am 73 in February. I don't know whether I need a softer or harder mattress, but something has to change so, do you have a suggestion which may be best for me? I have tried to sleep on a wedge and sometimes it seems to help but not always. I will appreciate anything you can suggest.
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Hi Ron, thank you for sharing your situation with us. Dr. Ryan recommends the Medium-firm Tempur-Pedic mattress for individuals dealing with back pain. This type of mattress is often considered a good balance between support and comfort.
I'd also like to share a video with you that provides helpful tips for sleeping positions when experiencing back pain. You can watch it by following this link: ruclips.net/video/nVG-dHMIojU/видео.html.
I hope you find these suggestions beneficial. Thank you for watching!
Myofascial release is harmful for spondiolythesis?
Hi there, thank you for your comment! In many cases, gentle myofascial release techniques, such as foam rolling (featured in the program), can be appropriate for individuals with spondylolisthesis. This technique can help improve mobility and reduce muscle tension without causing undue strain on the spine. The severity and location of the spondylolisthesis, as well as any associated symptoms or complications, can vary among individuals. Therefore, it's essential to tailor myofascial release techniques to each person's specific needs, encouraging listening to your body and not pushing through any pain you may feel.