Gotta respect a man who even though he is selling his tour series putters, is willing to tell you that they may not be the best ones for you and that you need to find the best ones that fit you. Great video.
One of the things I like most about Scott; he's gonna tell you what he thinks. I can't wait to hear some interviews during the season. This is gonna be FUN. #geezersforStokely
¨Scott, I wanna be just like you one day¨. I want to promote my own tour putter and then say - it may not be the best putter for you, this is total opposite of what most sponsored disc golfers does and is one of the reasons I'll be rooting for you in 2022! The other reason? I'm in my fifties and planning a come back! Personally I'm a REKO guy, BERG for short forehand approaches.
Great video! Putting is my favorite part of the sport because no matter how good or bad your week has been, there’s nothing like putting on a good playlist or podcast and practicing in the yard.
I felt like there was something wrong with my grip , and it took a minute to figure this thing out,,,, it was my fingernails,,, I needed to trim my fingernails, all was good again with the feel of the grip... Seems simple, but I overlooked this aspect of getting ready to throw discs.
Turbo putting is one of my most favorite ways to putt. It's so easy to point and shoot. Aviars, Roaches, Judges, Wizards, Madrones, Ponderosas, Bergs, Baobabs, Manzanitas, Chainsaws, Shields, Pures. Anything works with a turbo. It's all a matter of logistically feeling how the putters function with your forms.
They are fun, and very useful when you have to putt over something. It's not an accurate putt from circles edge though, hence nobody doing it. How far away do you consistently hit turbos?
I agree 100%. I tried the Berg, felt great, but, the callous on my second knuckle seems to hang just enough to make it inconsistent. I do use it for upshots tho, which is why they make more than one putter. I currently (2-years now) putt with the Electron soft Envy. My Daughter decided to go with the Envy, as well, because I use it. ALWAYS missed to the right (She's left handed). She now putts with the Swan 1 Reborn, and does well. Gotta find the disc for YOU!
I have to say the berg is unlike anything I’ve thrown. Scott you will be familiar with hole 17 at Morely field as I’ve read your book and I think it’s incredible. Very tough back hand and forehand. Took my new berg and threw it very high on anhyzer and was left with a semi easy putt for bird. On a hole that everyone struggles the berg made it easy. Thanks for giving me they urge to bag one and good luck on tour next year.
I put with the DD Deputy, I love being able to aim straight at the basket and jam it in with a bit of hyzer. If I’m approaching the basket within 200 feet, I have the utmost trust in my berg that I’m only going to be 15-25 ft from the basket at most for my next putt, and I make those all day long. I love the berg it’s such an amazing disc, a definite stroke saver over the course of a round. A must bag!! Much love 🥏
I just love the way that you break down whatever you are explaining so that's it's easy to understand what you mean. Oh and as much as there seems to be excitiement and speculation over what team players might end up throwing for next season I definitely think I am most excited to see how you do next season. Looking forward to an in the bag at some point.
I love multiple different putters for different reasons. My day bag I carry Woodland Ponderosas, Manzanita, Baobab. I've putted with DX Aviars for a while as well. Some of the best birdies I've canned has been with DX glow Classic mould Aviars. I've also done fairly well with Jawbreaker Roaches. I love tacky plastic for my putting putters.
I use Westside shield in bt med. it’s got a similar drop to the berg. It’s heavy but also can be used from a good distance. It never rolls away when I miss Sinks like a stone.
Happy New Year Scott. Good stuff as per usual. Oddly enough I was at my local discus store today to return a lost disc to their lost disc lost and found that someone left near one of the baskets at my most local course, shout out to disc golf Depot in SE PDX and saw it was a bit infatuated by a clear plastic Berg. They also have some of the super flexy blowfly putters, but I remembered we're just coming out when had my first exposure to disc golf in the early oughts. I then when on about a 16 year hiatus from disc golf with other life commitments and interests and clearly a set of misguided priorities. 😉 I, like many, rediscovered the game during this gol darned pandemic. I still have most of my old Innova plastic from back in the day including my trusty yellow classic Aviar in my bag and still use it for a lot of my up shots. I have sprinkled in some newer stuff, and mostly putt with a classic judge putter. I can tell that it has more glide than my old Aviar and sometimes that is good but other times it is not. Not sure I've found my consistent release putter me mould and plastic yet. Will keep trying.
I've been putting with Innova Rynos for 20+ years. I started putting with a discmania Sensei and my short game has gotten so much better. Love it so much.
I love the Berg but, a sore elbow has made me want to switch back to something with more glide for a while until it feels better.The Berg will stay in the bag for upshots and death putts though for sure. I will definitely try to pick up your signature disc. What molds are you throwing or are you planning an Kastaplast in the bag video?
I really like the honesty of just admitting that there's no such thing as a perfect putter for everyone, or the best putter, even though you have discs to sell. Personally I do bag a Berg, but I don't use it for putts for the exact reason you specified: consistent release. I didn't feel like I was particularly consistent with it, and it felt like I had to power up to putt it from distance, which again made me lose some accuracy. So it just wasn't for me. I use it as an approach disc though, because I do trust it as a throwing disc. For my actual putting, I ended up with the L64 Pure, which I like in my hand, and I feel consistent with it. I liked it so much that I got another in more durable plastic as a throwing putter, mostly for straight shots. In general I've just ended up liking more shallow putters.
I've been putting with the same mold since I started 10 years ago. I would probably choose a different one if I started today, but after buying 10 to practice not sure if I could afford a new set. 😅
I got back into the sport after almost 20 years off and now I've got an entire practice bag of putters that I don't use during play. It does come in handy for giving away to people that I talk to at my local park.
Have been playing for a little over a year and a half now. Infinite disc dropped the alpaca and i picked up a few have been using those since then and love them! But also have given other putters a chance as well.
I see that beautiful LOTS!!! One of my favorites! The REKO works great for me.....although the Berg is an amazing disc. Keep the great info coming Scott, you are an asset to this community!
I use my Berg (K3 Hard) as my main putter for the same reason as you outlined. Here in NC bad things await an overthrown putt. I use it for a lot of other reasons, as well, and carry three of them in my bag. I even use it as a very underrated forehand roller disc. I'll support your tour series discs when they are available. Love your videos! Keep them coming.
I love my berg. Will be checking out the Stokely tour series for sure. But I putt with a Pure Zero Soft in winter or wet weather and Zero Med for other times.
Scott, thank you for the great content, about the variables, your dead arm has weight too and where it moves influences your body slightly enough to effect your putt accuracy to some degree. As crazy as this sounds, I tuck my dead arm hand into the back of my pants to pin it down and my putting accuracy notably improved by completely removing that variable.
Gotta get that sponsorship to wear that sweet shirt! I hope you're all Kastapkast for 2022! (Looks like it) Have they sent you a Jarn yet? I'm excited about its release.
Berg definitely but breaks on landing. I use it for layup tries on packed dirt/rocks or to avoid roll aways on slopes. Your logic makes sense to me Scott. After 30k putts you’ll know for sure. Thanks for info
I used the vibram ridge for 15 years … then tried many different putters , wizards, links, judge… I ended up getting my hands on emac judge it is money in my hands the plastic the small bead just feels right and works .
Great advice Scott, I've been using a banger for a while cause I love the feel if it but my release has been inconsistent, might be time to change it up, or drill more probably 😅
There are wrong putters for most people, and these tend to be your more OS fade putter shaped discs/midrange shaped putters that are on the OS side. Sure, those discs work for short midrange throws or approach throws but they almost never work for putting unless the person is a slam putter that putts so hard, they need that over stable fade. Then from there it comes down to preference for the disc that you like. I have been using the Magnet mold for putting when the Putt'r fell flat as second putter for 1.5 year due in part to the only plastic it comes in the Soft X so after 30 hits the inner part gets more and more concave to the point the disc has no glide and can, due to the way the rim is made put more power on the disc then most putters leading to the this always having a comeback putt that was in the discs distance for easy putts. It became so bad that the Putt'r in Soft X was really only for those players who do a spin only putt that they have massive spin and no power using the spin only to get forward momentum. The first the Rubber Putter had too much glide for my putting to the point I had to do a straddle putt and do everything I could to slow the disc down, so the glide was not making the disc sail past the basket. Then I saw my brother had an old Magnet in the stiff Pro D, I used that until my further/cold weather Magent in modern Pro-D hit a tree warping in a putt. I then got a set of Jawbreaker Magnets and now a second when those wore out. I also have two Titanics in the Proline plastic with a few backups since that is now a no longer used putter plastic for the Titanic. I use these Titanic in Proline for putts where I am putting through some part of the course. So the Magnet/Titanic in Proline. I also have a 166 gram #2 Upshot in Prostyle for long putts/straight approach shots that has been in my bags since 2005.
I am unfortunately not able to take on any private lesson clients at this time. However there are Stokely Disc Golf Method clinics and seminars taught by me or my first certified Coach Phil Bartholomew all around the country with new dates added regularly. The schedule is on my website and you can get on the mailing list while you are there to be notified when new events are posted Hope to catch you out there soon!
You make some solid points here about triple putting. I love the berg but haven't really tried putting with it seriously. Only in casual games when I'm feeling too lazy to reach for my putter. Might have to give it a shot now for a month and see how it goes.. would you recommend K1 soft or just K1? Or even K3?
Hey Scott! Loved the video, I was just curious what you think about new players who putt with mids, while the point that missing can cause bigger come back putts, the glide of a mid helps new players to feel more confident at a 30ft range, thoughts?
Usually not premium plastics for putting... putters in premium are for off the tee. I'm thinking he means it's all what feels good to you and is as consistent as you can get.
I also have switched to Berg. It's bit like throwing a brick, it won't fly past the basket. I still have work to do with adding the extra power to the putt, which it can take, without that 3-putts-from-10-meters. One thing that was missing was the softness. Is there any reason not to putt with the softest plastic? Are those harder plastics all for approach only?
@@ScottStokelyDG I'm still using older PFN K3, the new K3 has slightly different feel to me. New K3 Bergs seem less stable as well or maybe they beat-in to be more stable like the Falks do.
Gotta respect a man who even though he is selling his tour series putters, is willing to tell you that they may not be the best ones for you and that you need to find the best ones that fit you. Great video.
One of the things I like most about Scott; he's gonna tell you what he thinks. I can't wait to hear some interviews during the season. This is gonna be FUN. #geezersforStokely
This comment through and through
¨Scott, I wanna be just like you one day¨. I want to promote my own tour putter and then say - it may not be the best putter for you, this is total opposite of what most sponsored disc golfers does and is one of the reasons I'll be rooting for you in 2022! The other reason? I'm in my fifties and planning a come back! Personally I'm a REKO guy, BERG for short forehand approaches.
I cannot wait to get my hands on a Stokely Berg!
Great video! Putting is my favorite part of the sport because no matter how good or bad your week has been, there’s nothing like putting on a good playlist or podcast and practicing in the yard.
So glad you said this. I am so sick of people putting Lunas just because Paul McBeth does. That said, I hope you sell 4 Million Stokely Bergs!
I felt like there was something wrong with my grip , and it took a minute to figure this thing out,,,, it was my fingernails,,, I needed to trim my fingernails, all was good again with the feel of the grip... Seems simple, but I overlooked this aspect of getting ready to throw discs.
Turbo putting is one of my most favorite ways to putt. It's so easy to point and shoot. Aviars, Roaches, Judges, Wizards, Madrones, Ponderosas, Bergs, Baobabs, Manzanitas, Chainsaws, Shields, Pures. Anything works with a turbo. It's all a matter of logistically feeling how the putters function with your forms.
They are fun, and very useful when you have to putt over something. It's not an accurate putt from circles edge though, hence nobody doing it.
How far away do you consistently hit turbos?
GT Banger is my go to
Thank you for teaching disc golf
Such an amazing ambassador for the sport
I agree 100%. I tried the Berg, felt great, but, the callous on my second knuckle seems to hang just enough to make it inconsistent. I do use it for upshots tho, which is why they make more than one putter. I currently (2-years now) putt with the Electron soft Envy. My Daughter decided to go with the Envy, as well, because I use it. ALWAYS missed to the right (She's left handed). She now putts with the Swan 1 Reborn, and does well. Gotta find the disc for YOU!
I have to say the berg is unlike anything I’ve thrown. Scott you will be familiar with hole 17 at Morely field as I’ve read your book and I think it’s incredible. Very tough back hand and forehand. Took my new berg and threw it very high on anhyzer and was left with a semi easy putt for bird. On a hole that everyone struggles the berg made it easy. Thanks for giving me they urge to bag one and good luck on tour next year.
Wow, that's some smart information. Thanks!
I put with the DD Deputy, I love being able to aim straight at the basket and jam it in with a bit of hyzer. If I’m approaching the basket within 200 feet, I have the utmost trust in my berg that I’m only going to be 15-25 ft from the basket at most for my next putt, and I make those all day long. I love the berg it’s such an amazing disc, a definite stroke saver over the course of a round. A must bag!! Much love 🥏
I just love the way that you break down whatever you are explaining so that's it's easy to understand what you mean.
Oh and as much as there seems to be excitiement and speculation over what team players might end up throwing for next season I definitely think I am most excited to see how you do next season. Looking forward to an in the bag at some point.
I love multiple different putters for different reasons. My day bag I carry Woodland Ponderosas, Manzanita, Baobab. I've putted with DX Aviars for a while as well. Some of the best birdies I've canned has been with DX glow Classic mould Aviars. I've also done fairly well with Jawbreaker Roaches. I love tacky plastic for my putting putters.
I use Westside shield in bt med.
it’s got a similar drop to the berg. It’s heavy but also can be used from a good distance. It never rolls away when I miss
Sinks like a stone.
Love your honesty in all of your videos! thanks for the great content.
Happy New Year Scott. Good stuff as per usual. Oddly enough I was at my local discus store today to return a lost disc to their lost disc lost and found that someone left near one of the baskets at my most local course, shout out to disc golf Depot in SE PDX and saw it was a bit infatuated by a clear plastic Berg. They also have some of the super flexy blowfly putters, but I remembered we're just coming out when had my first exposure to disc golf in the early oughts. I then when on about a 16 year hiatus from disc golf with other life commitments and interests and clearly a set of misguided priorities. 😉 I, like many, rediscovered the game during this gol darned pandemic. I still have most of my old Innova plastic from back in the day including my trusty yellow classic Aviar in my bag and still use it for a lot of my up shots. I have sprinkled in some newer stuff, and mostly putt with a classic judge putter. I can tell that it has more glide than my old Aviar and sometimes that is good but other times it is not. Not sure I've found my consistent release putter me mould and plastic yet. Will keep trying.
I have only gotten one ace playing 2 years. It was with a K3 Scott Stokely Tourseries Berg :-)
I've been putting with Innova Rynos for 20+ years. I started putting with a discmania Sensei and my short game has gotten so much better. Love it so much.
I love the Berg but, a sore elbow has made me want to switch back to something with more glide for a while until it feels better.The Berg will stay in the bag for upshots and death putts though for sure. I will definitely try to pick up your signature disc. What molds are you throwing or are you planning an Kastaplast in the bag video?
use berg in circle and something like reko outside circle. or use reko as main putter and berg as windy putter.
Great info and looking to grab a berg k1 soft I think..I’m relatively new to the sport and still learning plastic types..
I really like the honesty of just admitting that there's no such thing as a perfect putter for everyone, or the best putter, even though you have discs to sell.
Personally I do bag a Berg, but I don't use it for putts for the exact reason you specified: consistent release. I didn't feel like I was particularly consistent with it, and it felt like I had to power up to putt it from distance, which again made me lose some accuracy. So it just wasn't for me. I use it as an approach disc though, because I do trust it as a throwing disc.
For my actual putting, I ended up with the L64 Pure, which I like in my hand, and I feel consistent with it. I liked it so much that I got another in more durable plastic as a throwing putter, mostly for straight shots. In general I've just ended up liking more shallow putters.
Great advice as always. Looking forward to see on tour next year.
Oh, that's tomorrow.
Happy New year and all the best mate. Cheers 🍻🤙
I've been putting with the same mold since I started 10 years ago. I would probably choose a different one if I started today, but after buying 10 to practice not sure if I could afford a new set. 😅
I got back into the sport after almost 20 years off and now I've got an entire practice bag of putters that I don't use during play. It does come in handy for giving away to people that I talk to at my local park.
@@ronjones-6977 great idea 💡 👍
Have been playing for a little over a year and a half now. Infinite disc dropped the alpaca and i picked up a few have been using those since then and love them! But also have given other putters a chance as well.
I am so stoked to see you on tour next year, I loved you book and I thank inspiration to all. Thanks Scott for all you do for the sport
I see that beautiful LOTS!!! One of my favorites! The REKO works great for me.....although the Berg is an amazing disc. Keep the great info coming Scott, you are an asset to this community!
I use my Berg (K3 Hard) as my main putter for the same reason as you outlined. Here in NC bad things await an overthrown putt. I use it for a lot of other reasons, as well, and carry three of them in my bag. I even use it as a very underrated forehand roller disc. I'll support your tour series discs when they are available. Love your videos! Keep them coming.
I love the Berg for all the reasons you outlined. Can't wait to get a tour series version!
I love my berg. Will be checking out the Stokely tour series for sure.
But I putt with a Pure Zero Soft in winter or wet weather and Zero Med for other times.
Scott, thank you for the great content, about the variables, your dead arm has weight too and where it moves influences your body slightly enough to effect your putt accuracy to some degree. As crazy as this sounds, I tuck my dead arm hand into the back of my pants to pin it down and my putting accuracy notably improved by completely removing that variable.
I don't putt, I do tap in's because I use the Berg for approach 😉. Thank you Scott and keep it up!
Ty, as always good advise.
Can't wait to get my hands on a Stokely berg!
Gotta get that sponsorship to wear that sweet shirt! I hope you're all Kastapkast for 2022! (Looks like it) Have they sent you a Jarn yet? I'm excited about its release.
Kastaplast**
Berg definitely but breaks on landing. I use it for layup tries on packed dirt/rocks or to avoid roll aways on slopes. Your logic makes sense to me Scott. After 30k putts you’ll know for sure. Thanks for info
What do you mean, "breaks on landing"?
I used the vibram ridge for 15 years … then tried many different putters , wizards, links, judge… I ended up getting my hands on emac judge it is money in my hands the plastic the small bead just feels right and works .
I also putt with a berg and it was mostly to reduce my comebackers. Great minds think alike.
Great video and great tips, as always. Happy New Year! 🎆
hope I can get my hands on one or more in australia
Great advice Scott, I've been using a banger for a while cause I love the feel if it but my release has been inconsistent, might be time to change it up, or drill more probably 😅
KC Pro Aviars, 100% increased my putting. And I can huck them, and land soft on Annie's and Hyzers.
Totally agree. Been shaving strokes with the pig
Awesome video and info!
You should do a video on Elevation discs
Yeti Pro FTW!!!!
My putting putter, and also my throwing putter, keeps any line, im in love. Aviar driver for headwinds tho.
Love ya Scott. Your the best
There are wrong putters for most people, and these tend to be your more OS fade putter shaped discs/midrange shaped putters that are on the OS side. Sure, those discs work for short midrange throws or approach throws but they almost never work for putting unless the person is a slam putter that putts so hard, they need that over stable fade. Then from there it comes down to preference for the disc that you like. I have been using the Magnet mold for putting when the Putt'r fell flat as second putter for 1.5 year due in part to the only plastic it comes in the Soft X so after 30 hits the inner part gets more and more concave to the point the disc has no glide and can, due to the way the rim is made put more power on the disc then most putters leading to the this always having a comeback putt that was in the discs distance for easy putts. It became so bad that the Putt'r in Soft X was really only for those players who do a spin only putt that they have massive spin and no power using the spin only to get forward momentum. The first the Rubber Putter had too much glide for my putting to the point I had to do a straddle putt and do everything I could to slow the disc down, so the glide was not making the disc sail past the basket. Then I saw my brother had an old Magnet in the stiff Pro D, I used that until my further/cold weather Magent in modern Pro-D hit a tree warping in a putt. I then got a set of Jawbreaker Magnets and now a second when those wore out. I also have two Titanics in the Proline plastic with a few backups since that is now a no longer used putter plastic for the Titanic. I use these Titanic in Proline for putts where I am putting through some part of the course. So the Magnet/Titanic in Proline. I also have a 166 gram #2 Upshot in Prostyle for long putts/straight approach shots that has been in my bags since 2005.
Nuno is worth a look!
Born to Judge 👍
Scott are you still doing lessons anywhere in Texas? I'd love to take another one.
I am unfortunately not able to take on any private lesson clients at this time. However there are Stokely Disc Golf Method clinics and seminars taught by me or my first certified Coach Phil Bartholomew all around the country with new dates added regularly. The schedule is on my website and you can get on the mailing list while you are there to be notified when new events are posted
Hope to catch you out there soon!
You make some solid points here about triple putting. I love the berg but haven't really tried putting with it seriously. Only in casual games when I'm feeling too lazy to reach for my putter. Might have to give it a shot now for a month and see how it goes.. would you recommend K1 soft or just K1? Or even K3?
Totally personal. I like the K3 but there is no correct answer
Hey Scott! Loved the video, I was just curious what you think about new players who putt with mids, while the point that missing can cause bigger come back putts, the glide of a mid helps new players to feel more confident at a 30ft range, thoughts?
I stand by using discs designed to be putters.
@@ScottStokelyDG thanks buddy! I just got 2 bergs to try and putt with, but still exploring what works and your videos help a lot!
Is that a tour series lots in his hand?
What role do you think plastics play, if any, in choosing a putter?
100% personal!
Usually not premium plastics for putting... putters in premium are for off the tee. I'm thinking he means it's all what feels good to you and is as consistent as you can get.
I also have switched to Berg. It's bit like throwing a brick, it won't fly past the basket. I still have work to do with adding the extra power to the putt, which it can take, without that 3-putts-from-10-meters.
One thing that was missing was the softness. Is there any reason not to putt with the softest plastic? Are those harder plastics all for approach only?
Honestly I think it's a personal preference. I like the K3 because it has a tackier feel.
@@ScottStokelyDG Thanks. That tackiness is something that to me harder plastic discs rarely seem to have.
Respect
Hand feel is the most important thing, you have to be confident with your equipment.
Scott do you prefer k3 or k3 hard plastic?
PersonallyI like the K3
@@ScottStokelyDG I'm still using older PFN K3, the new K3 has slightly different feel to me. New K3 Bergs seem less stable as well or maybe they beat-in to be more stable like the Falks do.
K1 Soft
- not Scott
You know when someone cares about his disc golf game when he has "Disc Golf" tattooed across his knuckles.
That Lots tho. 👀
Is he on kastaplast?!!
Is Kastaplast your main sponsor now?
Scott isn't PUTTING with the Berg right? Is he?
I am!
Play this video at 0.75 speed, then close your eyes. Boom, it's Kevin from "The office" ;p
"The exact sound xD"
luna gang
The only putter is a Wizard.
3 putting? Wtf?????