Why People On Planes Say “Mayday” in an Emergency?
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In 1923, a senior radio officer, Frederick Stanley Mockford, in Croydon Airport in London, England was asked to think of one word that would be easy to understand for all pilots and ground staff in the event of an emergency.
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what about CQD as the first distress signal used before SOS was adopted?
"Mayday" or the french words "m'aider" are virtually pronounced the same. Not " ma dia" as he says it.
Elias Bargee I had to pause the video cuz of that... I literally wanted to comment that.
No they're not
Would you care to elaborate your empty comment? What is "they" and why is they not?
***** exactly. Still pronounced the same though.
Uh... no, actually "Mayday" and the french words "m'aider" (or "m'aidez") are virtually pronounced differently (though "ma dia" is indeed painfully far off the mark).
The proper pronounciation for "m'aider" or "m'aidez" is more akin to how I guess a Scotsman would pronounce "meday", with an "e" as in Scottish-accent "bed" and an "ay" as in Scottish-accent "day", and with the second syllable stressed.
Holy crap it's Vsauce Michael's british clone
Truly Infamous, I can never un see it now
except these guys upload more than once every three months :)
or the gadget show guy with a beard
Only in a watchable channel, yay!
no, each videos on this channel gives a real answer, so it's not Vsauce
I was always told that the term later applied to the morse distress signal was "save our souls", rather than "save our ship".
nope, it's only used because in morse code it's •••⁃⁃⁃•••
Precisely. It's easy and fast to input, and also to remember. Also, the specific pattern is pretty unmistakable.
That's a backronym. It was made up later and is not correct. SOS was chosen because in morse code it is . . . - - - . . . that's three dots, three dashes, three dots. Three signals is the universal sign of distress, be it three gunshots, three flares, etc. So the use of letters composed of three signals makes sense.
That makes sense. Thank you.
Silvershock Nicktail it's because it's really easy to remember. Dot dot dot doot doot doot dot dot dot.
When you make such appalling mistakes like your pronunciation of "m'aider", you lose credibility as a reliable source of information....and subscribers.
It's almost as if Simon doesn't speak French. ;-)
British Guy shouldn't it be the conjugation, "m'aidez?" regardless, "m'aider" and "m'aidez" would sound exactly like "mayday" and not whatever butchered pronunciation he used.
Well, they do sound the same when they're pronounced with an English accent, that's correct.
"m'aider" is the infinitive form as in "Pourriez-vous m'aider ?" - Could you help me?
"Vous m'aidez ?" - Which could be translated as "Will you help me?
Both are correct, and yes. He did butcher the pronunciation.
British Guy oh, very true, I didn't consider the usage "m'aider" in that sense, but you are correct.
question though, would you not translate "m'aidez" as "help me." and "m'aidez vous" as "help me?" my French is rusty and I don't recall the nuance of word orders that imply declarative statements from questions.
vagingo
In formal French "M'aidez-vous ?" is usually used. In spoken French, "Vous m'aidez ?" is usually used. I imagine you were taught the formal usage.
SOS was picked because of its simplicity in Morse code. It is 3 dots, followed by 3 bars and then 3 more dots (. . . _ _ _ . . .). SOS was picked because anyone, even people who don't know Morse code, can easily remember that sequence.
Yep. I don't know morse code, but I can recognize an SOS signal.
di di dit dah dah dah di di dit
I learnt about "Mayday" from Red Dwarf's "Marooned" episode, when Lister spells it out to Rimmer:
"Why is it Mayday? Why isn't it Ascension Sunday?"
"It's French, you doink. M'aidez. Help me."
Loved that program...
Foebane72
have learnt*
Damn, you beat me to it! Rimmer going 'Ascension Sunday, Ascension Sunday' into the microphone was a classic line! :)
That's what popped in my head when I saw this :-)
+tjf4375 'The fifteenth Wednesday after the Pentecost!'
Because MayNight is harder to pronounce.
GraveNoX DecemberTwilight is much classier
Too classy. I think I just found the title of my new novel! It's about vampires or something...
You made a lot of us laugh. Thanks for that!
Really? I'm more partial to SeptemberDawn
better FebruaryAfternoon
This video mayd my day.
Hahahah, I like that!!
Typical Dad Joke
Didn't make it clear, so for those who don't know, SOS in Morse code is: ... --- ...
Audibly, it's a very distinct dit dit dit / dah dah dah / dit dit dit that even an inexperienced radio operator could recognize. The Titanic was the first ship to send out an SOS (in addition to the previous CQD).
0:00 No you're not, you're Michael Stevens...
My god, you're right! ;-)
This repeating 3 times makes me think of Sheldon Cooper, knocking the doors. :)
Cristian Dinu That's probably why he does come to think of it. I always thought it was to be obnoxious, but supposedly funny.
Nice to see PAN get some love, an often forgotten call.
It is actually used all the time. In Canada, we use Pan Pan, in the USA they pronounce it more like PON PON. In our area of operation we get about 30 Pan Pan calls a year. If you consider all the other areas of SAR operation, Pan Pan is used quite regularly on the ocean.
I learned that, if you're broadcasting a message about a possible hazard, you use "Securite, Securite, Securite," pronounced, "say-cure-i-TAY." There was also something about "SAY-lonce MAY-day" and "MAY-day fee-NEE" but it's been a really long time and my memory isn't what it used to be.
When you're passing on/repeating a mayday call you do not say "mayday, mayday, mayday". You day: "mayday relay, mayday relay, mayday relay" then give the other person's information & location.
Truth.
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I always thought SOS meant 'save our souls'.
Nope; that's a myth. It's not an acronym. Just the reverse of the belief that a certain profanity IS an acronym for "Fornication Under Consent of the King" or "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge." It's not true, yet many people believe it is.
Any acronym you've been told for SOS is a backronym. It's made up later. It was chosen because three signals is the universal sign of distress. Three gunshots, three flares, etc. SOS in morse code is . . . - - - . . . , that's three dots three dashes three dots.
It doesn't... It actually means nothing but a Morse code signal (· · · - - - · · ·). But today it has come to stand as phrases such as "Save Our Ship" or "Send Out Succour" or "Save our Soul".
That could work too, when crying out to God.
It's like everyone who replied to this comment assumed they didn't watch the video
I thought it was m'aidez, imperative mood, in other words the command "Help Me!"
Incidentally when practicing engine failure drills at Blackbushe I used to use "Practice Mayday, Practice Mayday, Practice Mayday," but only on the internal intercom so the the instructor could hear me make the call correctly. "Practice" meant just that, this is a drill not a real emergency, and would have told the world that if by accident I had been transmitting.
Yup, SOS is super easy to pick out in morse code. SOS reads " ... _ _ _ ... ". When in distress, one would continually transmit it with no stop between the phrase, so it would read like "SOSOSOS..." (... _ _ _ ... _ _ _ ... _ _ _ ... and on...)
Altus Boren Fun fact: Incase you didn't know, Morse code transmittions without spaces are called prosigns.
Standard Science Oh wow! I didn't know that. That's pretty cool.
Happy to help! In amateur radio, there are too many prosigns!
I disagree on sending SOSOSOS... What's the use of sending SOS letters solely and forever without identifying oneself, and situation and location?
Sorry I should have clarified... They would stop for that, yeah.
After mayday, and pan-pan there's securite. Typically used for important navigation messages and to report hazards. eg. "securite, securite, securite this is the SS 'Vast Unnavigable' getting under way and proceeding to sea. All vessels keep clear."
Lol, love the complete conviction with which the guy pronounces m'aider as "ma dia"....
Pan pan, pan pan, pan pan. Sounds ridiculous but whatever works.
Its not used often anyway.
It's used more then you'd think,especially in shipping lanes.The problem is idiot boaters dont know when to use it or mayday.
It is actually used all the time. In Canada, we use Pan Pan, in the USA they pronounce it more like PON PON. In our area of operation we get about 30 Pan Pan calls a year. If you consider all the other areas of SAR operation, Pan Pan is used quite regularly on the ocean.
Are you sure it isn't from the French word "merde" as in "Oh MERDE, I'm going down?" LOL
it's "m'aidez" which is short for "venez m'aidez" (come help me)
but his pronunciation......Jesus
maxypantaloons I know, I was just making a joke, if you know the meaning of "merde."
Hah, that is funny. My mom taught me that "merde" = shit.
your mom would be right. Same word and same uses.
To be fair, we know the rocky relationship between the French and the British, so Brits probably don't study French that much, despite France's proximity.
Vsauce Michel h..... oh shit wrong vid.
YOU'RE NOT MICHAEL FROM VSAUCE
IMPOSTER
(just kidding love the video, m'aidez is way more simpler to pronounce. somewhere between midi and meddeh.)
I was taught at school that SOS means Save Our Souls?
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Pachi3080 haha, I guess it is! I never thought about it that much.
Andrew Grant it's said because the Morse code for SOS is very easy to remember: ... --- ...
+Carlos Rios
Is there a "space" between each sos? ...---... ...---... ...---... ...---...
is it sos sos sos sos sos? or sossossossossos?
thewaywework There is a space.
I always thought SOS stood for 'save our souls' not 'save our ship'. Guess I was wrong either way.
Nope, it was created because it's easy to transmit in morse code.
Well, it was made more because its easy to recognize then so much as its easy to transmit.
...---... ...---... ...---... is pretty recongizeable compared to ..--.....-.-...--....-.-.-.-....
An Práta Mór I was told it was SEND OUT SHIPS
Nope. Just short short short long long long short short short.
in morse code SOS is dit, dit, dit dah, dah, dah, dit, dit, dit. so the ease of remembering the series is the reason for those letters.
... --- ...
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I was told that it all came in threes, 3 dots 3 dashes 3 dots it was easy to learn and the quickest to send back when Morris Code was the only way to send messages. Also that arrangement has a kind of musical tone to it making it easily recognized over the way the Marconi transmitters worked. They were what is known as arc or spark transmitters, a system that used the electric arc to send a signal. Problem with that is that signal is transmitted over just about all radio frequencies, it is not controlled. Back in the day it didn't pose a problem as only the big ship lines could house them and used them. Later as radio sets became smaller and more widely used and tuners became available to send and receive on a frequency arc transmitters were band for use.
Interesting fact, most ships that used the Marconi sets, like the Titanic, were not used to track weather or used to listen for ships in distress. It was mostly used for the passengers to send and receive messages or ship line messages from the company HQ. Ships back then were not required to have the radio maned 24 hours when at sea until some time after the Titanic tragedy.
It's not just that it's easy to remember. SOS was chosen because in morse code it is . . . - - - . . . that's three dots, three dashes, three dots. Three signals is the universal sign of distress, be it three gunshots, three flares, etc. So the use of letters composed of three signals makes sense.
Dot, not dit,
Dash, not dah.
i Always thought SOS was Save our Souls... but i guess its a retroactively named
The only time I ever had emergency I never even used the mayday call.
I just left the airport area to the south on day that the weather was bad. When suddenly I started getting smoke in the cockpit. The first thing I did was turn the master switch off. And the smoke started to go away. But because the weather was bad I had to use radio to get back. So I called the tower up and told them I had smoke in the cockpit and was returning back to the airport. They asked if I was declaring an emergency. I said yes. The told me to report 5 miles south of the airport. Because that I declared an emergency they kicked everybody else out of the airport area. When I got 5 miles south I called them and they cleared me to land. I told those turning off the master and wouldn't be talking to them any more. Turn out to be the amp gauge that shorted out.And yep they met me with fire trucks and the whole bit.
I once had trouble with smoke in my cockpit too. I had flown to a small town about 35 miles from my home field and when I returned I had smoke both in and outside my cockpit. The local farmers had decided that conditions were right to burn their grass fields and visibility had dropped to about a mile below about 3000 agl. I considered calling Pan Pan Pan but I knew I couldn't yell loud enough for anyone to hear me since I was flying an antique aircraft without an electrical system and didn't have a radio. I figured I had 2 options, I could either fly IFR or go to the nearest smoke free airport. After much consideration I decided to go IFR. I knew the area very well and I knew I could follow roads well enough to find the airport. Sure enough, flying just above the smoke and just being able to see the roads I spotted the airport and made a precision landing with no problems. It helps when the aircraft you are flying will slow down to 60 mph. It's a little disconcerting though having trucks pass you while flying above the highway.
I wish these were also written out in the description. I really like these, but it would be way nicer to just read them.
There is a link in the description to the text version. :-)
Smut likes to read.... hmmmm.....
My understanding is that "Mayday" is the phonetic version of "M'aidez", the imperative form of the French verb "aider (to help)", meaning "help me!"
And it is also useful to point out that, if time permits, the pilot in distress should switch to the appropriate distress frequency. In the case of a civilian pilot this is 121.5 Mhz, the Guard frequency. This frees up the frequency on which he first transmitted his distress call and allows the station with which he is subsequently communicating to give him exclusive attention.
In addition, the pilot should select the transponder code which is appropriate for the nature of the distress.
References in the above to the masculine gender also include the feminine.
SOS is also really simple to key in CW since S is "dit dit dit" and O is "dah dah dah"
I'm not a native French speaker but to say to someone "help me" in French is m'aidez which sounds exactly like mayday. Just the thought of an AP French student.
I was always told that S.O.S. meant.............Save Our Souls.
sos is also very easy to remember in morse code, . . . - - - . . .
I love your videos, because they are right on the point without much chattiness. Furthermore your English is very clear, hence easy to understand for not native speaking persons like me.
This channel has like 3 thousand more subs since I first found it 2 days ago.
I bet they'll hit 500,000 in a year.
Only took about 500 videos and a couple years for RUclips's algorithm to start showing us a little love. ;-) Hopefully it continues for a bit.
In Morse, SOS isn't broadcast as three distinct letters, but rather as one, 9 tone long single character. Letters are usually deliminated by a space/pause between them which a proper SOS does not have. It would be equally as correct, although much more confusing, to refer to it as VGI which, when broadcast without the spaces between letters would render the same sound. No one does this though, but its important to note how SOS the emergency broadcast does in fact differ and is distinct from the letters S O S as used in general communications.
VSauce! Wait...
More like VSOS.
William Amyot Lolololoolol
You won a sub. Really interesting channel. Thanks and Well Done.
Michael from vsauce lost his hair.
*looks at this channel's subscriber numbers* And his subscribers apparently. ;-)
I love monitoring the naval emergency channel when I go out on the ocean. Someone ran out of gas near the Channel Islands in Southern California and hailed assistance with a "Mayday". The Coast Guard responded immediately and upon learning his situation explained that he was not in a Mayday situation and warned him against using it.
Save "Mayday" for the most dire emergencies. If there are no lives in immediate risk it is wise to use another form of address even if you skip radio jargon entirely and just ask for help. Coastguard and Vessel assist radios are amazingly powerful and they will hear your plight with telephone clarity.
Sorry, but "madia" is not French for help me.
Also, on ships you usually send a VHF/MF/HF DSC distress call, which is kind of a message shortly explained, before going over to voice communication. On these Mayday is Distress, Pan Pan is Urgency and Securité is Safety. When you send on behalf of another ship "mayday relay" or more commonly "distress relay" on DSC is used.
SOS also has a very simple morse code:
... --- ...
In fact, CQD was also in use during the adoption of SOS.
pan pan pan pan pan pan boat no
makes total sense
As a French I was expecting this explaination but that was too beautiful to be true
I'm sure I've seen this guy before? maybe brit lab or something?
love the channel though, already subbed! :)
he looks vaguely like the Vsauce guy
I've seen him on the channel "TopTenz"
My English teacher told me and my class that SOS stands for Save Our Souls
always learning something new
Many only said: "May..."
I am a ham and have been around radio for a while I have always wondered the origin of mayday and sos thank you for the video.
I enjoy a good Christmas ham
i probably should have specified ham radio lol
The jerky shack We're just messing with you ;)
i know
Of which french word? What is madia? Did you mean m'aider? Because m'aider is more or less pronounced like... wait for it... mayday.
If this is another mistake, then it's the second time (that I know of that) you guys messed up with a foreign language, see "Hans und Beinbruch / Hals und Beinbruch". These things aren't hard to check up on...
It's almost as if we don't speak every language we sometimes have to cover. ;-) Please watch: Let's Talk About Pronunciations ruclips.net/video/NYAYN0g4UT8/видео.htmlm43s
"M'aidez" is not the imperative form of "aider." "Aidez-moi," or "Aide-moi" are.
+Today I Found Out
So, it's Simon pulling a number five, "I'm stupid", because he didn't follow his own prescription and visit Forvo or any other pronunciation guide.
i really your channel. no unneccessary jokes. just straight to the point
From the thumbnail I thought this guy was Micheal from Vsauce.
That was why I even clicked on it. Very disappointed
+Kevin Contreras that sounds like a personal problem
there's another thing to add:
If you're the plane sending the distress call and someone else is talking on your frequency, therefore interrupting your conversation, you are able to stop every other transmissions by using the french "Silence! Mayday!" which means nothing else but "Everyone else stop sending NOW!"
0:57 That pronunciation of "m'aidez" though ...
Everyday English with Byron yea that was butchered it literally needs to be pronounced like mayday.
+Joel Beaudoin Not really, "M'aidez" does not have any /y/ sounds in it in French.
You will hear /Me-de/ (and the /e/ are the same sound as in pet).
You can listen to it here: www.larousse.fr/dictionnaires/francais-anglais/aider/1846
apart from that ay sound at the end....
jonnie thumbs Time to mute the thread.
For a second I thought he was talking about Madea from the Tyler Perry movies.
I drive past where Croydon airport used to be nearly every day.
I'm French and I never heard such word as "Madie " . how do you spell it?
Thank you!
I think he's trying to day "M'aider"
David Orrom oh! Okay got it xD
What's funny is that it's pronounced just like "mayday" :| Not sure why he thought it would sound different?
Yeah, it's "m'aider", not Madea...!! Tyler Perry ain't french!!!! 😂
SOS does stand for save our souls. It was later superseded by CQD meaning all stations distress. Nowadays mayday is used
in spanish pan is bread xd
iQueda mucha salsa, necesitamos pan pan, pan pan, pan pan!
★ Copypasterino Kripperino ★ xd
con queso, con queso, con queso!
in french it's "pain" which is ironic because french bread is delicious
***** xd
For all the Frenchies wondering, as it might be hard to understand from the british pronounciation:
Mayday < M'aider (Aidez-moi)
Pan-pan < Panne, Panne!
You look like Michael from vsauce
.....no i don't.
Nathan Tongier fuck off
According to my knowledge the first distress message that was send by a french airplane traveling from france to england and received by an english station. SOS was adopted as save our soul (according to all my researches) and most of all because of the simplicity of sending that message in morse launguage "... --- ..." 3short 3 long 3short
I only clicked because I thought this was Michael from vsauce
SOS was chosen for it's simplicity in morse code. S in morse code is ... and O is --- so in case of distress the call for help was "... --- ...". easy to send, easy to read and by not being correspondent to any word, had a clear meaning. think if you had to send this ".... . .-.. .--." to ask for help (this is morse for help)
You're about the 7th person I've seen not properly separating the letters.
Example, it should look more like this:
.../- - -/...
the fuck is going on in that picture with the guy going "pan pan" he has some weird finger growing off his knuckles
I was always taught that SOS studs for save our souls
You were taught wrong.
I thought SOS meant save our souls?
Martin Popovski it does
It means secretary of state
No. it doesn't.
+Dekimate In Michigan, it is
Being a pilot myself, I have given this question a great deal of thought and have come to the conclusion that calling "Mayday" relieves stress. The more emphasis you use on the words "Mayday!!! Mayday!!! Mayday!!!!!!!!!", the better it works. :) More creative people may even throw in an expletive after the word "Mayday" for added emphasis. "Mayday!!! Mayday!!! Mayday!!! #$**!!&%$#!!!". Some people actually broadcast their "Mayday!!!" over their radio to make sure that everyone within range knows they did something really stupid. If they are brave and have a couple of seconds left, they give the location of where the wreck can be found. There are rare occasions when 2-way communication may be established and some poor soul on the ground will try to tell a pilot how to fly his aircraft or generally get out of hot water, but there is insufficient time or space to cover all aspects of these situations. If a pilot should survive a situation in which he called "Mayday", he will need to be prepared to be in real trouble with aviation authorities once on the ground.
Why would a pilot be in trouble with the aviation authorities if he survives a situation where he called mayday? Assuming the call was needed? Or is it only allowed if your plane truelly is about to crash and you can't avoid it anymore or you are seriousely lost with no means to return and running low on fuel?
+Jorendo "Why would a pilot be in trouble with the aviation authorities if he survives a situation where he called mayday?"
Generally because in order to get into a mayday situation you have to have done something wrong: run low on fuel, inadequate preflight, flight into known icing conditions, etc.
I probably should have called it once, but it was quite a few years ago and where I was flying in those days the FAA was not too kind to private pilots so I decided not to unless my engine quite completely. I was flying the infamous Cessna 152 and was about 30 miles from home when my engine decided not to run in the lower rpm range. I quickly checked everything I could (not much to check in a 152) and concluded that I most likely had debris in the carb from a recently completed overhaul (which turned out to be the case). I stayed at a reasonably high altitude while returning home and kept a continual eye out for potential landing sites in case the debris migrated somewhere else. The bad part was, the snow was melting and all the fields were soggy which wouldn't have made for a good landing in a 152. Fortunately, the engine kept running happily at high rpm and I made the airport. The pattern was a little high, and final approach was flown with a dead engine. I was used to flying sailplanes so it didn't bother me much. Flaps and slip if needed to lose altitude. The tower didn't notice the stopped prop and I coasted onto the taxiway, managed to get a rough restart and rode the brakes to the mechanic. That old 152 and I did a lot of nice flying though, that's the only time I had a problem with it (except when I was flying over central Washington and Mt. St. Helens erped, and visibility rapidly went downhill. Good navigation got me home.)
I thought SOS meant save our souls
Nope. It isn't an acronym. It doesn't "mean" anything other than "Distress." It doesn't mean "Save Our Ship," it doesn't mean "Save Our Souls," nor anything like that; it's just an easy to recognize, and easy to send with a Morse key, prosign.
"Backronym"? I love it! I'm going to add that to my list of neologisms.
Backronym dates back to the 1980s, I use it all the time, it's great :) Just to add, SOS was chosen because in morse code it is . . . - - - . . . that's three dots, three dashes, three dots. Three signals is the universal sign of distress, be it three gunshots, three flares, etc. So the use of letters composed of three signals makes sense.
+Anonymous User I've heard SO SO SO on ham radio a lot and just ignored it. ... --- 3 fast beeps followed by 3 drawn out beeps. Without voice location information, there's really nothing you can do without a way to triangulate it and lots of time in your hands. So transmitting SOS is probably a waste of time unless its on a gov't monitored emergency frequency
An Anna "transmitting SOS is probably a waste of time unless its on a gov't monitored emergency frequency"
At least in the US, it would probably be a waste of time on government frequencies, too. The US government quit using Morse long ago. (The last Morse signal sent by a Coast Guard station was the same as the first message ever sent: "What hath God wrought?" It brought tears to my eyes when I heard about it.) All ships, and even smaller boats in many cases, are required to have radios with automatic distress systems (DSC) that upon activation transmit the vessel's identification (MMSI) and GPS location. Vessels covered by SOLAS regulations also carry emergency beacons called EPIRBs, and many boaters who are not required to do so also purchase them. We've come a long way since Titanic's spark-gap radios (which were already outdated when she sailed).
SOS comes from the spanish "eso es" meaning it is, as in the answer to the question "¿Es una emergencia?" to which the response would be "eso es" sounding identical to the acronym SOS
I thought SOS was picked because of it's simple and recognizable Morse code pattern. dash-dash-dash/ dot-dot-dot / dash-dash-dash.
rationalguy isn't it dot-dot-dot / dash-dash-dash / dot-dot-dot ?
You are correct. Prior to the Titanic sinking (the first time S O S was used), the distress call letters were C Q D, which DID stand for Calling (all) Quarters, Distress and which is is tapped out - · - · - - · - - · ·
And, yes, to Schmudli: SOS is dot-dot-dot--dash-dash-dash--dot-dot-dot NOT the way rationalguy wrote it.
By the way, its dot-dot-dot--dash-dash-dash--dot-dot-dot. You reversed it to OSO.
Why can't they just use RUSH's YYZ? Ding da ding ding ding da ding ding ding ding da.
interesting!
QUESTION to all native speakers of English: Do some (or all) people pronounce "etc." as "ekcetera" instead of "etcetera"?
At first I thought only Simon did it, but now I've also perceived it from several other native speakers. Or is this a problem with my speech cognition (sometimes I must really focus or else I wouldn't understand people talking, even in my native language)?
The word is eTcetera, although people often mistakenly pronounce it eKcetera or eXcetera. I'm guessing that's because those sounds/letters in that order aren't something you typically hear in English. If you know that etcetera used to be written as two words -- et cetera -- it makes it a little easier to wrap your head around the pronunciation. ("Et" means "and" in Latin, and "cetera" means "so forth".)
Oh, thanks, but I know exactly how it "should" sound and how to spell and say it (plus had 6 years of latin - I *hated* it!).
I was just wondering if they really say "eKcetera", or even "exetera" and it's not a cognition problem I might have.
Daven here (American), I too pronounce it as "ekcetera". :-)
ozdergecko For the official record I pronounce it etcetera. That and $4.08 @ Starbucks in the U.S. will get you my drink! Being funny, Oz! Really tired! How you doing?
Depends on the day..... 1)"X"cetera 2)"EK"cetera 3)"ET"cetera
SOS is easy to transmit:
. . . - - - . . .
TheSaintST1 Yes, in fact, that's what was adopted originally as the distress signal - the sequence "...---...", as opposed to the letters "SOS". It was retroactively named the "SOS" signal, since it resembles the Morse encoding of those letters (which would be "... --- ..." with a pause between letters).
The other advantage is you don't have to remember the order. If you keep making ...---...--- etc it should only be interpreted one way.
SOS was chosen because in morse code it is . . . - - - . . . that's three dots, three dashes, three dots. Three signals is the universal sign of distress, be it three gunshots, three flares, etc. So the use of letters composed of three signals makes sense.
more specifically, I think SOS is the easiest phrase to remember in morse code.
Seriously, my guess is that, mostly, they say _Fuck!_
Have you ever read Tom Wolf's The Right Stuff? The early fighter jet pilots who were testing planes crashed and burned at the rate of 1 in 4 at the time (late 1940s onward to the rocket age). He devoted quite a few pages to the fact that the pilots were trained to try to rectify situations down to the last and, when they ran out of options, their transmissions sounded like "I've tried (A); I've tried (B); I've tried (C)" and at least one pilot NOT in distress responded "Now shut up and die llike an aviator". However, if you go onto the multiple RUclips channels that deal with the voice recordings of pilots about to crash, you will hear a variety of last words. Calls for their mother, prayers, "I'm sorry" (to the copilot); oh, sh*t, and "f*ck are all among them. There is, also, a reported transcript of the last recorded words of the Challenger crew as they plummeted (still alive according to NASA) to the Atlantic. NASA denies it is authentic, however anyone with military training can tell you that it's pretty close to what would be expected. The pilot is still trying to work the controls (futile), one of the crew is saying a prayer, Christa McAuliffe is screaming all the way down (expected) and Judith Resnick hyperventilated and passed out (what I would try to do) and there is a comment on the transcript to that effect. Again, NASA (and Snopes) denies it is authentic, but I suspect that is out of respect to the families who lost their loved ones that fateful day.
Most common last word from pilots is "Awww Sh*t". :/
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That reminds me of an old Bill Cosby comedy routine. When he was a child, every time he went out, his mother asked if he had on clean underwear in case he was in an accident. Cosby's response was that, in the event of an accident, first you say it; then you're gonna do it (sh*t).
Jack Sainthill FUCK is usually the word that comes before MAYDAY, lol
In my experience - "Oh Shit. Oh God. Fuck. Oh Well. (This is going to be expensive)". The progression is interesting and I'm an atheist and not a materialist.
So, basically, some guy came up with it.
Thrilling.
please don't try to speak french. I assume "Laburjayt" is supposed to be "Le Bourget" but recognized "m'aider" in "madeer" or even in your translation "help me" took me a while. I know this is what Google Translate will tell you but try to enter "help me" in same google translate and see....
I find this very relieving as while I was learning french, I made the connection on my own but I thought it might have just been a coincidence.
Nooooo honey! "Mayday" is actually pretty close to how you say it in French too (M'aider)! Maydieuh? What? It's important to look up pronunciations of foreign words before making an educational video, right?
Last I heard Mayday came from American WW2 pilots flying missions over France. They were told to say Me Aidez, which became anglicised to mayday
0:58 What are you talking about???
chongtak I think that was an extremely English pronunciation of "m'aidez"
he's talking about the French root of Mayday... "M'aidez"
Damn! A simple research on the net about a basic pronounciation of "m'aidez" from the author of the video would have made things easier to understand. Everybody heard "madeer"!
chongtak Forvo is hard to find, man
Hahaha! Yes, among others.
Why Mayday? It's only a bank holiday.
Communist conspiracy, obviously. May day is their most important holiday.
Also, a plot to make sure that when the USSR shot down that famous U2 spy plane, any distress call the pilot would have sent wouldn't have been taken seriously. ("Yeah, we _know_ it's May day. Tell us something new.")
S.O.A.! Save Our Ass!
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SOS was for a simple Morse Code transmission of "..." "---" "..." / 3 dots, 3 dashes, 3 dots. Easy to remember in times of panic.
I thought he was Vsause
The english pronunciation of Mayday is closer to the French than the attempted French pronunciation. General rule: Stop emphasising last syllables when speaking French, French speakers place equal emphasis on all syllables.
He didn't attempt the French pronunciation, he pronounced it as (I assume) the cooky Brits pronounce it. As usual, the Brits ruin everything.
that was really fun to hear x) I was like "what?? thats a word??"
Please drown in British blood...The British should have been permanently conquered by the French...Modern English is a creole of French and Aenglish. English kill everything with their Hobbit-like pronunciation of everything.
of the word "madia"
before making an entire video just about a single word, could you do a little bit of research on how the word is pronounced?
"mayday" is the englicised pronounciation of "m'aider" (which is pronounced in French like mede with the e like in get), which comes from the sentence "Venez m'aider" which literally means "Come help me" ("m'" is for "moi" (me) and "aider" means "to help")
Monsieur Z so true i was like what the fuck madia its m'aider
pourriez vous venir madia lol
Madia sounds like a first name
I think you may have misheard him, I think he was trying to represent the spelling of m'aider in English.
In the video he says "... mayday, the anglicised spelling of the French pronunciation of the word madia"
I this implies that he knows the french pronunciation is similar if not the same as mayday, and that he is trying to say m'aider as if it was an English word.
Quoggle My point is that in French, "m'aider" is pronounced like mede (or like mayday, without the y), with an E like in gEt or sEven.
In the Marconi company originally the distress signal was “CQG”
Previewing comment: It's from the French (M'aider)
A vessel in distress calls "mayday, mayday, mayday". A vessel not in distress will call, "Mayday relay, mayday relay, mayday relay" and identify themselves. They will then wait for a positive response from the coastguard before relaying the mayday information.
i came here for michael
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Akbar haha, Vsauce?
yea vsauce !
Yes, that seems about right.
My student pilot's handbook points out however that the situations in which it makes sense to use a pan-pan call rather than mayday are quite limited in practice.
Mostly it's a better idea to use a mayday call instead.
Though some uses for a pan-pan call (on a small private aircraft) include if you have lost any sense of where you are, but still have plenty of fuel, or there is some sort of medical issue with someone onboard (as long as it's not the pilot, because that's grounds for a mayday call, especially if there's only a single pilot).
if you have some kind of failure that makes your plane hard to fly for the duration of the trip and/or borked the controls, yet is not so serious as to make you block a runway with an epic fireball, a pan-pan is called for right? a trim system that has jammed with max roll input for instance. this would seriously reduce your ability to deal with additional errors, hence should be reason to make a precautionary landing. in other words, you would like an unscheduled landing and have priority on that runway, but in all likelihood don't require the firebrigade.
i can imagine quite a few scenarios for a pan-pan
You seem to have forgotten these apply to boats too ;)
He doesn't seem to have forgotten that... he's just sharing what he learned from his pilot training.
They both now apply to all voice radio communication, right down to amateur radio.
I'd imagine that pan-pan is much less viable for planes than it is for boats because of the very nature of being in the air. Flying can be a harsh mistress and any issue no matter how small needs to be treated like a potentially severe incident.
At sea, anything short of running out of fuel, pirates, ebola/plague or a monster storm is much more likely to be a pan-pan.
Not Maddi or madi... M'aider
Merci beaucoup
"Pan-pan-panini, someone call the NTSB because I just chucked my plane into the side of a mountain" - Airforceproud95
Madia? Does he mean m'aide? Wtf is madia
He means m'aidez, which is the origin of the word mayday.
Threepoint Onefour He says fuckin' madia. When I heard that I just felt my IQ dropping by 2 points.
Thom G I know that he pronounced it horribly, but that is what he meant.
He obviously never took any French class and didn't take the time to google the pronunciation. It's from m'aider (like in: venez m'aider = come help me).
You don't have to Google pronunciation to know that it should sound like "mayday"!!!
I've never heard of S.O.S. being used as "Save our ship". I mean, it has uses outside of marine emergencies. I was taught it meant Signal Of Stress.
Only clicked here since I thought it was Vsauce
SAAAME
Both have bald guys with beards ;-)
Same here. I really thought that was Mike from the thumbnail.
Me too!
SuperMaDBrothers HEY VSAUCE HERE
Nice to see some vintage Simon!