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Fantasia is more than American idol she is a platinum and grammy recording artist
Oh yes👏👏👏
Yes 💞💞 Let Em know 👍
And a fucking idiot.
Exactly she has her own accolades
She black soooooo there you have it
Sunny the only one who got what Fantasia said. She was speaking on emasculation.
Then she should be worded it that way. They don't need to "lead" anything. Men leading never brought this world any good.
@@christylouis2611 What about JFK? Winston Churchill? Barack Obama? MLK?
Revemupman she sure did. And Fantasia is right all the way.
@@christylouis2611 IF WOMEN TAKE THE LEAD WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO CONTRIBUTE TO SOCIETY...( FEMALE EMPOWERMENT? )...
SO FAR THEY ARE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB SEXUALIZING THE YOUNG GIRLS OF THIS GENERATION.THE FURTURE WILL START LOOKING LIKE A STRIPCLUB.SMDH.
THE 3 MAIN QUALITIES OF WOMEN IS TO BE... RESERVED, NURTURING, AND UNDERSTANDING.BLESS UP...STOP TRYING TO THINK MEN ARE AGAINST WOMEN...YOU ARE THE PILLARS OF THE EARTH.
That’s because Sunny black. No shade just fact, we as black women have been the strong black women for long that we forget how to be a lady.
Meghan once again made zero sense. What does a character in a movie have to do with the actor? there are actors who played predators or killers so does that make them that?
Nobody forced him to participate in the making of that particular movie. He chose it because there was something about the film that appealed him, and that choice says something about him.
Meghan also completely misunderstood what the movie was attempting to say about male aggression and toxic masculinity (according to commentaries from the director and the author of the novel that the screenplay was based on), only viewing it through the narrow prism of her own pathological narcissism. But what else is new?
Edward Terry the money would be appealing to anybody.
She is delusional and confused. But what did you expect when you had warmongering parent.
Also, the movie came out a decade ago, are people not allowed to evolve, smh
Brad Pitt also played a character that conspired to kill Hilter. And a character that slept with cartoons. Lol Like Meghan, wtf does his characters have to do with him personally standing up for women in real life? 🤷🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Chloe Randolph What is more Macho then roofing, stunt driving/doubling and beating up Bruce Lee?
@@MauriceCharles It's a character. It's literally his job to pretend to be people that he's not. Lol
Wow in your attempt to be a critic you proved how much of a idiot you are seeing as how you lack context or actual insight. She brought up Fight Club as a seperate topic and did a segway. Plus she asked that based on his comments about masculinity and said 'You made a movie that dealt with this issue.'
His characters have nothing to do with him standing up for women; you brought it up and confused yourself on that. What they said was he stood up for his girlfriend against Harvey Weinstein at the top of his game.
@@ccrandolph118My point was a reiteration that his career has been spent playing "Macho" characters; to accept a cheque for portraying it (not for finite projects but for the span of his career) and to speak out against it, comes across as insincere.
@@BlackWolfInc277 Flight Club or any movie he makes has nothing to do with his personal views. Which is why it makes no sense to bring it up. That's like saying, "Whoppi, you're against violence BUT you played the voice of a hyena that was going to kill a baby lion! My God!" Lol it literally makes no sense. A character is a character. Brad Pitt is an actual human being in real life that stood up for his girlfriend. She made no meaningful correlation and that's why her attempt to make a point was moot.
Does Abby ever listen to the question being asked? What does the me too movement have to do with what Fantasia & Brad Pitt said? 🙄
I think we can agree blah blah both sides blah blah is her generic answer to every question, so she doesn't need to listen.
what are you talking about? did you actually even watch this or listen to what she said? she said nothing about the me too movement! she gave her viewpoint precisely and articulately. you just want to HATE on her for no reason.
The me too movement is very valid here because it gives people the freedom that all women are pure and telling the truth
Brad Pitt didn’t say masculinity sucks but he says ‘re-define’ it.
Hali Tsotetsi and that is the stupidest statement, but a stupid mind can’t understand it
Same thing sweet heart. Nice try though
Can we just redefine the femininity?
CAN we just redefine the animals.?
Can we just redefine the nature of been?
That's why we shouldn't never take all the celebrities seriously, they are only there to create chaos.
As usual Abby and Meghan waste no time missing the points completely. Yawn
Joy and Anne missed it, too. A rare instance where Sunny was the only one who got it (what Fantasia was talking about).
I wouldn’t say Abbey missed the point. I think her point was just not a favorable view of yours.
@@whitmichelletv Nope. Abby missed the point. Her assertion that gender roles exist in the home is fine if that works for her. I have no issue with that. Sunny pretty much agrees with that too - she made it more articulately. The issue is that Abby takes a strand of logic and then gets it confused with a talking point unrelated to the issue at hand. Joy says it right after her.... this isnt about the good guys. This isnt about the men in out lives. Its about toxic masculinity. Ergo my point that Abby missed the point. So yes her point wasnt favourable because she missed it.
I'm pretty sure Abby's basic point was that we shouldn't be stereotyping men and women like that _in the first place._ In other words whatever works, works. And she also expressed how that when these types of conversations come up you get responses like Joy's "Yeah 'cause men have done such a great job with the world so far!" but the reality is women wouldn't necessarily do better. There would be good women and bad women just like there are good & bad men. What about that missed the point?
sweetrupturedlight they’re too busy pushing that outdated conservative agenda 🙄
Fantasia is speaking spiritually if you don't have a relationship with god you won't understand i totally get her
totally
So do I
Thank you!!!! These are biblical concepts!
I'm so sick of people misquoting what Fantasia said and what she was speaking on.
Yes! Exactly.
Geez Megan. Brad Pitt is an actor. He plays in all kinds of movies. Lol.
Why is she there
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What a dummy
What the FFFFF is Abby talking about
Listen I couldn't wear my head around it
Literally like Im confused
Ana's response was to the question. Abby's wasn't.
she cant help it. she benefits from those roles so much that the idea of it being shattered is terrifying. so her answer shows that
what exactly didnt she answer about the question? please articulate it. i bet you cant, you just want to HATE on her.
@@etf42 I cant answer for Lynn, but she really didn't answer the question. Fantasia is caping for traditional roles and how women need to be subservient to men in relationships. Abby started talking about so many good men and how she feels bad for them. she gave a tangential response. dont think Lynn was hating, she was making an honest and acute observation. why are you caping for Abby and capping phrases? are you her bodyguard?
Abby's response in a nutshell was that she doesn't think we should stereotyping men & women in the first place. Whoever can lead should lead. I don't know what's so hard to understand about that.
@@raym.778 bruh, that's not what she said. at all.
there are good men. men would wonder what they did wrong. there are bad men. I am going to stick by these men. my husband would want us to be happy.
the question was: should men be the leaders? context: Brad Pitt and Fantasias recent comments.
They’re missing the point of what Fantasia was talking about, Sunny gets it & wth is Abby talking about 🤦🏾♀️ 🤦🏾♀️
I never understand wtf Abby is talking about. Lol
I mean what she did say is still right though there are good men out there. You can't always put everyone in the same basket.
Sonny doesn't get anything. There are certain roles that we're still in my it or just hand out blindly. Like a 8 year old boy that just wants to be a possum everything. He is not qualified to have it not based on gender nor anything else so you're saying Sunny doesn't really prosecute rapist. Since the only Power men really have is in their pants and they need to initiate things or tank when we ejected? Men just steal an appropriate other people's culture and then mix it with the only thing they actually created rule by Brute Force?
Women are better Cooks in the person who cooks the head of the household. Did she say that no she actually said she, the individual person was a better cook. What a coincidence that this might match some tradition. But white ruling over black was also tradition. The Native American World the woman is always in charge in the hole. If they go outside and those women except that they had to follow the men entrusted their judgement when dealing with animals and such. People will wonder if two musicians are two architects you share the same space. This is not a gender issue and there's women's viewing bigotry against women. You could have the same problem with brothers or sisters are two best friends asking the question what does each one bring to the table.? You don't have to compete with anyone you do what you do, and let other people bring their skills. That's the point
Her producers probably told her to be more active in the conversation because SHE IS A DRAINER 🙄
Meghan... Brad Pitt is a real person... His character in Fight Club is a character... 2 different things... omg this conversation went NOWHERE! waste of time ladies.
Women don't ever talk about anything of substance amongst themselves.
@@Jeriko251 That's not true.
Fantasia was speaking Biblical, and since a lot of us haven't even tried to line our life up according to the word, we missed the point....
Tab's World Exactly.
@Kumtekmeon yes I have read the Bible the New and old testament, And with that being said you have a blessed day my dear
Kumtekmeon Yes I have read, continue to read daily, study, teach the Bible publicly in the streets of New Orleans and make shows on RUclips...I live the Bible to the best of my ability so I’m actually one that speaks from experience. Most women with a brain want to be submissive to a man tho it will be very hard with how broken this society is. Nice try tho bud
Tab's World ... It says in the bible that if you come to find out that your wife isn’t a virgin you should stone her to death and drop her back off at her father’s door step, that’s a LAW in the bible by the way! So do you really want women to live by “the word” ?
@@dmoney9285 Do you not want to be the leader of protecting and providing for your household and the woman to follow as your help meet? You rather the woman to protect and provide? If that is what you want, then that's your preference and you'll need to seek out women who are willing to be that for you. Although, women are physically unable to protect a man because a man is naturally the stronger vessel. I believe women are not here on earth to fight along with men in battles, we're here to nourish and rejuvenate you after your battles with our natural healing and in return you keep us (and children) safe and secure within our vulnerabilities. Men make the house, but women make the house a home.
As for the Bible....it is very old and not all laws can be practiced or resonate today -- not everything in it truth, either. It's up to you to use the Bible as a tool and take what resonates and what feeds your soul to thrive.
Everything and topic makes Abby nervous ...absolutely nothing in that head 🤣
Wow that made zero sense.
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😂😂😂so true
Bridget Odigo 😂😂😂😂
Bridget Odigo
Omg I was just thinking this
They didn't actually state what Fantasia ACTUALLY said...
What did fantasia actually say (I don't know who she is so idk)?
@@brianmattingly3204 a lot, google the video. She never talks about being weak and everything else everyone associates with being a submissive wife.
I’m a feminist and there are too many women that emasculate their partners.
E.g. Taking their money, yelling at them over little things and even hitting them.
And society has deemed that okay! 😤
Star Cherry remember the Gillette ad that demonized men then had (speaking just in medical terms not insulting ) a morbidly obese women on a Twitter ad that said love yourself live your life. Like men and women are equal most are good people. It’s just the squeaky wheel gets the grease and companies think that Twitter is representative of the American populous
My MIL is like this. Her husband is a shell of a man now. Ironically she was a stay at home mom, never worked.
..maybe in like Casablanca or Gone With The Wind a woman could hit a man. But these days it's changed. Abuse is abuse no matter the gender giving or receiving.
Masculinity and femininity are old customs in 2019 these traits shouldn't divide us.
There's no such in his thing is emasculating. No one can take me what you don't have. So there are traits that both men and women are capable of doing. What you're arguing about is men and women competing with each other.
Meghan doesn’t haven’t enough depth to analyze Fight Club though.
You can tell aAbby was raised a Mormon, every comment she makes, Jeez
swankhood her middle of the road moderate mediocrity annoys me.
But not married to one.
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Fantasia is a GRAMMY AWARD WINNING ARTIST. Joy really tried it.
Fantasia also said while the man is the head the woman is the neck and the head can’t turn without the neck. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ignorance again
She was Saying that the Two have to Work together the Head can't turn without the Neck but the Neck can't turn without the Head In order to work Properly they both must Understand that Neath can Work Or Function with Out each other if the Head tries to go without the Neck or the Neck without the Head you get Whiplash a Sore Hurt Neck and Throbbing Headache with Hurting Head.
GW B I totally agree
What does that even mean? Fantasia is submissive but she also wants to be heard? She can't have it both ways, be submissive or be equals. Not this 'head & neck' nonsense
@@quincyquincy4764 if you can turn you Head without your Neck Turning Try it She was Saying the Head has the Brain it tells the Neck to Move to turn the Head if your Neck is Broken can you Turn your Head No you cannot She was Using that as a Metaphor if a Man is in the Military and is being Stationed Over Seas for 5yrs dose his Family Stay or go with Him this can Also Apply if it is a Woman he doesn't Lose his Position as Hesd of the House because he Went Where her Job Sent Her because he is still the Man of the House and Head of the Household because he made the Ultimate Sacrifice by giving Up his Career Position so She could Follow and Achieve her Goals not because of Guilt ot his Submission but Love for Her that is how a True Man Leads by make and doing things that are Good Decisions for the Entire Family as a Man and not a Emotionally Emasculated Unic which is what a Lot Black Women think is Ideal then ask Where did all of the Straight Strong Black Men Go To.
Quincy Quincy just watch her interview on the breakfast club
the fact that meghan mccain completely misunderstood Fight Club added decades onto my lifespan. ugh. i love it.
Thank you Sunny. The only person who exhibited critical thought.
I thought Fight Club was about mental illness but ok
It wasn't.
No fight club is about capitalism and toxic masculinity
Really? No that movie was a "down with The Man" type of piece. Rewatch😊
It has a bundle of themes and that's certainly one of them.
That move was bipolar af 😂
I'm a little salty about the description of Fantasia as the one who "won American Idol"
right acting like they dont know who she is when she is a grammy and platinum album
I agree with Sunny. There’s nothing wrong with having roles, as long as there is mutual respect. I think people have placed a negative stigma on the fact that it’s OK for a man to have a certain role in a relationship.
They totally misunderstood what Fantasia said. Probably because the only black women in the stage is Sunny.
Sunny often has to be the of color voice.. and she was right.. my x husband and I were fighting over the Male role.. it wasn't that he wasn't trying it was I didn't give him the chance. Another plight of a single mother... I didn't have patience for him to get up to speed.. so I pushed him out of his role.. THAT'S what fantasia meant.
They didn't misunderstand, but people in Hollywood are bullied and forced to accept anything that is trendy. And what is trending now is people being shamed for liking traditional gender roles.
cordaro johnson
Fantasia only has a GED she can’t articulate herself properly, you can’t get mad at people for misunderstanding her!
@@tkc5898 insult wasn't necessary. Having a GED had nothing to do with not understanding her.. joy and abby etc just didn't agree with fantasia.
@@tkc5898 Why are you knocking people with GEDs, that's actually harder to obtain than a high school diploma.
Women do NOT need men to lead them, to protect them, provide for them, NOTHING. If a woman wants a companion ship then thats another thing.
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#Metoo movement and sex trafficking says otherwise but ok.
How can you even emasculate men? A strong man will never allow himself to be emasculated. Why is the burden placed on the women?
Darlena Glamourina 👍👍👍 finally someone is thinking healthy here
@Agent 69 gender is a social construct. That means every individual choses their own role.
This is the reality, why are you so clingy to justify your un-earned male privilege in society?
What she ment was not allowing a man to take charge in the relationship, not toxic masculinity. Women will fight their men for the role of leader in the relationship. What she was saying is that the women (if she absolutely trust him) to let the man lead and let the woman fall back. If the women doesn't trust the man to lead, she has every right not to allow this. Her husband even said that just because she's allowing him to lead doesn't mean he gets to make every final decision or dominant over her. They consult each other and they move as a unit.
@@Jayscorpio94 " to let the man lead and let the woman fall back." ---> toxic masculinity to the bone.
men are not qualified for everything, but they are desperately trying to push for this false narrative of their superiority in leadership...to keep their male-privilege
@@gabrielahansen683 everything that Fantasia and her husband said was from a biblical prespective. If you watch her interview and their (Fantasia and her husband) joint response and you still dont agree with what they are saying, then what they saying isnt for you and that's okay.
Fight Club is a movie, not Brad Pitts character
Ya but he took on the role.
Sorry Joy but not everyone at the table has a great husband.....
@Jose Uribe tell me more????Who?
Salty JOse
@@kelleykelley1914 megan
@@kareemanderson1492 appreciate the info
We know. She is just being kind to avoid a fight...
Fight Club is satire. Also, Brad Pitt was playing a role, not making a political statement.
Wanting to end male toxicity is not shaming the good men. Saying calling out male toxicity is emasculating is denial of the issue to me. Yes we shouldnt stereotype but we should call out an issue of masculine toxicity without it being controversial
Agent 69 my only issue with these comments is people can’t see that women have been bashed years in years with no outcry. The minute men r put under the spotlight it’s controversial and debatable. I do agree with your point but this is just another point towards how sexist society is without realising.
She said it "inartfully"? No, she said it eloquently and artfully. She said what she said.
Exactly. People are commenting based on misinformation. People need to watch the Breakfast Club interview and the joint response from her and her husband so it can be understood they were speaking from a biblical prespective. And that prespective is not one of dominance but rather Godly submission and equal parts within a marriage.
There's a difference between toxic masculinity and "good men". Idk why they cant really stick on topic here.
I strongly agree with Fantasia and I hope I get married to a great man I will submit to while still having my opinion.
Women generally think that submitting to a man makes you less of who you are which is not true.
The definition of submit in this context is:
"accept or yield to a superior force or to the authority or will of another person."
So, to me, that does mean you'd potentially give up part of yourself in submission to another.
It even has synonyms listed: give in, yield, back down, relent, defer, conform, surrender. (Tho for fairness halfway down the list it does have agree and consent)
I think the important thing is not to have a problem with women taking the lead too
Guess when it comes to the human race leadership depends on education, with some experience and age, and personality types.
Except women can't lead; they suck at it
@@BlackWolfInc277
Who are the women that suck at it exactly?
Akash Samson leading in their strengths.
etf42 that’s true, women often want their cake and eat it too but then get upset when they gain weak ... metaphorically of course
Leading in a relationship comes down to experience not gender. Both parties lead in different situations based on strengths and weaknesses of each individual and can that person handle that particular situation
Smartest person here
Nope! Try again. God made man in his image then made the woman from the rib of a man. He said that the woman is to be the help mate of the man. This is in the Bible. You can ignore it if you want to.
@@theblackschwab3561 but if she's good at math and you're not. She should be handling the finances
@@benjaminreyes3624 Being good at math don't mean anything if she has reckless spending habits. Usually it's the man that will put a budget in place and have the family stick to it.
@@bronxishomenomatterwhereig3149 Normally yes.. I'm just saying if she's good at something. Then she should take the lead in that situation
But you would have to be good at math to know how to budget. Spending habits is apart of that budget
I'm glad this is a discussion.
The traditional family structure is becoming very unpopular and make people uncomfortable to not only talk about but also hear.
Just read the comments.
Lmboo “ you can call him he’s your best friend” lol the shade
emasculation is a stupid term. Roles are okay we all play them. but we shouldnt HAVE to play certain roles just bc we are born male or female. we should be able to choose which roles we perform.
ChimneySweep07 THANK YOU 👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏼
talking about “I believe in protecting masculinity and letting men be leaders” is dumb because some men are better caretakers and some women are better leaders it’s a personality thing not a gender thing
@@melainebullock lol exactly. ppl have this ridiculous notion that leadership, caretaking, and certain things like that are biological. which is not and there is no gene for that . so its stupid to think letting a man lead to protect his ego is useful
@eys292 i understand that but we´ve evolved since then. we dont need to hunt or necesarrly breast feed. society is different and therefore ppl are different. the idea here is that everyone is an individual . and to box someone and say "this is the nature of your sex so this is your nature as well" is wrong. emasculation doesnt have to do with anything biological or about sex. its about gender. and gender is a social construct. the things that these women are talking about are about societal norms we´ve aquired. nothing to do with biology.
@eys292 i dont think its whats gotten us this far tho. I mean there are ancient civilazations where women were hunters and warriors. of course we´re different. im not saying everyones the same. but when ppl talk about nature, or whats natural. they usually talk about things like the ones in the video. relationships, infidelity, employment, etc. which have absolutely nothing to do with our "nature". i get what ure saying and you´re right, but i just dont think its relevant to the conversation theyre having on the panel
@@moviereelness7527 finally someone with educated opinions
I luv sunny. She is so eloquent n alwys composed. N i just noticed Her Boss hair clip.
You can't emasculate a man when he isn't reared with the ideas of what an "ideal" man should be and how he should behave (unless you literally emasculate him physically- oi). Emasculation of men isn't a problem if you remove the toxic ideals we force men to adhere to- our idea of what masculinity is is largely a social construct. Just saying.
Sunny was on point! I didn't get what fight club had to do with Brad Pitt acting in a movie and what Fantasia said.
So for you people who apparently “couldn’t” understand what Abby was saying, she very clearly said that she is willing to let men take the lead based of the fact there are still true gentlemen in the world. She is clearly a traditionalist, like Sunny, and wishes not to change her position based off of a generalization of men being non-gentleman- even if that is the majority.
Also, Fantasia’s post was about emasculating men. Abby WAS on topic and so was Sunny. Idk what Joy was talking about as this had nothing to do with men in political power. Ana also sounded weird- readily threatening people with death when they have or have been perceived to harm your loved one is NOT masculinity. That’s threatening someone. Taking the initiative in this way should NOT be mistaken for masculinity.
Fantasia, Sunny and Abby were referring to the role men have in traditional relationships and how it relates to general masculinity- especially in said relationships.
people just like to hate abby no matter what she says
etf42 idk how this was so hard to gather for people. Abby is definitely not my favorite cohost but that doesn’t give me a license to forsake my active-listening skills. I don’t know why it does for other people.
Abby said absolutely nothing. Is it me or does she never have a View.
Meghan: what the f**k does Fight Club have to do with this topic?
america "you're allowed to have your own opinion"
celebrity "my own opinion...."
america "but you cant have that opinion!"
Biblically men are supposed to lead the family. My wife knows I am the leader of the family.
The lion leads the Pride. The lioness follows yet has a very important role in the entire survival of the pride. Like it or not, the man was designed to be the head of the family. And his wife his helper. Neither is completely without the other.
The female Hyena leads the pack. By the same logic you're using, the woman was designed to be the head of the family. Men run the world for only one reason: because we are physically stronger. But might is not right. Brute strength is not wisdom.
@@seunosewa you 're wise ..
What is Abby saying 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Baby Brain
Fantasia said "women should be submissive to their husbands". It's the same thing Cameron-Burre said sitting in Abby's seat; she said that's what the Bible says. Sunny obviously hadn't heard Fantasia's quote.
I love a man that can take charge of his family
I’m with Fantasia!! Big up the men! 😘🤗
The entire point of Fight Club was to show the damage that the pressure of performative alpha masculinity and capitalism does to men... I am so disappointed by this conversation they just had. Manhood needs to be redefined by men as something beyond this stereotypical idea of unemotional brute force, guardian keepers of women. It's not that Sunny can't have her traditional gender roles, nor is it about how men are evil. It's about how we have the same dried up idea of aspirational masculinity that's full of muscle and teritoriality and devoid of emotional understanding. And that needs to change.
Thank you Abby!! 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you 👍
If you are married to a good man, then why not let him take the lead?
Exactly!
Nobody at the table understood the point Brad Pitt made, he was talking about toxic masculinity and gender roles, and Fight Club portrays very well the first issue. I thought these women were smarter than that, but seems like they're not.
What is toxic masculinity?
@That big one Right.🤦♀️😂
If they actually watched her video, especially the one with her husband, they would understand where she’s coming from.
But not everyone researches before commenting. Lol. I totally got what she said and the joint response from herslef and her husband. They were referencing Godly submission from both the husband and wife. But not everyone will get what they were talking about.
I've heard some people explained submission and, the men are often dominant .However, Fantasia and her husband had a perfect balance when explaining what it means.
Abby is a waste on this show
why?
She is talking in a biblical sense she is very religious! And remember woman was made from man!! That’s what she is talking about!!
😎EVERYBODY DON'T READ THE BIBLE !!!
Phillips Watson oh I know!!
A man that makes less than her running the household Lmaooo he’s living the life
Abby is so pretty, her makeup is always well done, and her hair color compliments it very well!
FANTASIA IS TALKING ABOUT US STRONG BLACK MEN LET US LEAD OUR HOMES
They understand but in this current climate, people in Hollywood risk being criticized if they express preference for traditional gender roles. It's quite sad.🤦♀️
NICOLE LEWIS
SHUT UP
Timone Prince
Black men want to lead but it’s usually the black woman bringing home the check, taking care of the kids etc.
KEY WORD (STRONG) MEN THATS FINANCIALLY STABLE ALREADY CHOOSE YOUR MATE WISELY SOME ARE GOOD SOME ARE FUCKED UP IN THE HEAD
Fantasia is talking about Godly men submitting to God so they can lead their homes. She's not talking about race. What she and her husband said transcends race. Please dont miminize or rsuce what she and her husband was speaking about. Because any man from any racial or ethnic background whom truly submita to God can lead his household.
How can you put a fictional movie in the conversation?wtf this crazy lady
Thank you Abby
Sunny is absolutely correct here ,men and women have worked together to make our homes and society a better place . We need more of that not less , we want men to be strong protecting father figures that are also caring and compassionate .
Some men will lead you the wrong way.
And some doctors will engage in malpractice; does that mean doctors shouldn’t see patients.
YES Fantasia ! YES ! Let’s not confuse “toxic masculinity” with good men being equipped to raise respectable young men and women it’s been proven that in broken homes it forces kids to have to work harder to become stable individuals. Men with lots of power shouldn’t be confused with running your household.
Meghan looks like she is part of Prince & the Revolution Band😂🤣😂
I am more appreciative of this show , when they let each other talk. good job
Men should lead so i agree with fantasia
Why?
Absolutely not always....there are times and in certain situations where women need to lead because they’re better in those situations.
@@PassionGrows i agree. Lead in your own personal strengths. That is independent of gender.
@@PassionGrows and that was explained by fantasia in a social media video AFTER the interview with her husband where he explained that its a trust thing and a dance between 2 partners and not a rule and reign do what i say but ppl don't look for facts before they spread their opinion on these talk shows.
I love when a man leads. I know feminist would disagree.
Something always makes Abby nervous 😩
I’m sooooooo OVER HER 🙄🙄🙄
Abby was responding to the comments Joy made...
And she’s right, we don’t want to stereotype men or any group...
Meghan’s comment really doesn’t make sense because Brad Pitt’s profession is/was mainly acting, so his role in a movie in 1999 probably has zero to do with his personal views. That movie was a job, plain & simple.
What are they talking about??? They missed the entire point. Sunny was the only one who freaking talked about the subject.
Honestly, who glued these soundbites together to make a topic? The context is all over the place. Men have defined their idea of masculinity and they are paying the price of that. Perhaps they need to define what a modern 21st century man should be so they don't feel "emasculated". Feeling being the operative word. If we want to talk about substance, then let's not bring in fictional characters or try to point out the good ones. Look at the state of the world, ruled and dominated by men and masculine approach to power. Have that conversation instead of what celebrity says. rubbish segment imho.
amen!
Basically there’s masculinity and then toxic masculinity two different things
Kory where the line and who decides when it’s gone toxic.
BlackAngloSaxon right idk why the two words have to be used together , there’s masculinity and toxic behavior period
Fantasia’s new album “Sketchbook” comes out Friday Oct. 11th. 😊
Fantasia was speaking as A WIFE ... she's not a gf or a side chick. She is a wife speaking on HER marriage. The end 😒
I agree with fantasia but it depends on what man u have
Shelly Hunt I totally agree!!
Also depends on the woman, will she understand and how was she raised..
Not really. Fantasia was only speaking about one type of man, and that man is a Godly man that submits to God.
Abby you're special. Bless your heart. 🤭
Lol
She literally went off point..
She has her opinion, respect her , no need to make fun of Fantasia.She is speaking from experience.
Spiritually
Masculine and Feminine energy aren't equal. You need both to be successful. It's the wording that throws everyone off. Maybe my wording will throw some of you off. But yes Sunni I agree with what you are saying.
They are equal. And they aren't exclusive to gender. There are men with more feminine energy and women with more masculine energy and vice versa. Keeping a balance is what's important. If Sunny wants to be submissive, then that's her. If Joy wants to be the dominant one in her relationship, then that's her. Y'all are so obsessed with controlling other people's lives it's weird. Leave people alone and let them live their OWN lives.
@@IBBMS they aren't equal though we would all be the same if that were the case. You can't have one without the other and masculine and feminine energy isn't exclusive to male and female you find it all in nature anyway I didn't hear Sunni say she's submissive I heard her say she wouldn't emasculate her husband. Btw who is y'all in regards to controlling ppls lives? Why are you so triggered by someone stating THEIR opinions and preferences? Did you just finish watching the Dave Chappelle stand-up?
@@mosesking2923 shut up troll
Moses King freak
@@IBBMS how can they be equal if they are different? that makes no sense.
Fantasia loving this major press with her new album coming soon!
Good publicist- lol
Both are wonderful leaders.
Oh! My! God! Just play Fantasias video.
Because it has got to be the best piece of viewing material I have ever seen.
Y'all keep bringing a worldly perspective into this. Look up where he an Fantasia go live and clarify what she was talking about. Women are too busy trying to be both Adam and Eve.
C Mare V
Fantasia’s the same woman who had a baby with a married man. Why is she the authority on marriage advice!
@@tkc5898
A Woman/Man should NOT Hafta constantly be reminded of & Or, looked down upon from past indiscretions!! I AM Gr8ful that Ur NOT TMH ELOHIM YAH!! Surely Ur the Poster Child for/Of Perfection, Mistake Free, Someone who Follows, & Lives by the 10 commandments as well as Allll 613 Law's, Statutes, & Commandments????😩🤦😏🤔...
@@tkc5898 @ I AM CHOOSEN By TMH what he said. Also when you learn better you do better.
@@awakeningofhischosenishapp2726 thank you for saying that to @tkc. The way people act these days I guess we need to wear our past sins on our chest or sleeves because that's the only way they will identify you. The Scarlett letter days I guess. When you learn better you do better.
@@cmarev3509
I've always noticed & experienced that it's the SAME individuals who speak on another's past indiscretions, live a life of hypocrisy, bcuz they generally see themselves & project their own miserable lives onto other's.. It's extremely obvious to me how low @tkc self-esteem truuly is.. She/He NEEDS to improve on her/his own life, Betterment of Self, way of thinking, & way of Be'IN b4 tryna spew unrelated garbage about another individuals life.. My Beautiful Melanated Sister Queen Fantasia has come a loooong way, her journey was Rough & She made it thru the Fire.. Who in their "Right Mind" could feel comfortable about themselves tryna knock another person down 4 their past indiscretions??? Only A Hypocrite would do that!! Frfr SMH...
Meghan and Abby are crosseyed in sharing their view. Completely wonky and unable stick to a single valid point
Do what works for you and your family.
I don’t know why this topic is so hard to get. Leadership is not gendered. It is not based on one’s genital conscription. Some women are better leaders. Some men are. Sometimes it is dependent on the activity involved. Sometimes both parties are co-partners in the marriage. Each family decides for themselves. Fantasia however is saying that only one (where the man leads) of these possibilities I have listed is right. And that is where she is wrong.
There's bad women out there too.
Lemme guess: you're an All Lives Matter kinda guy?
Meghan, "Fight Club" was a metaphor. It wasn't glamourizing masculinity or saying violence was okay, it's meant to be a satire and a commentary on toxic masculinity. Did she even understand the context of the film? Or forget Tyler Durden was the "villain"?
Right?!? To be honest, Meghan and many like her only think about things on the surface. They never take deeper thought of their actions or the actions of another person.
AMEN
I wish the ladies of the view took into consideration the response by Fantasia's husband as well. It is a valid point based on balance and good spiritual, emotional and financial leadership.
Men are supposed to be the head of the house according to Christ! Stop rebelling people! It's God's word!
What Sunny is describing isn't "traditionalist," but I agree that we should be cautious about emasculating men.
@Mam Jallow Nope, women shouldn't be working at all period. They belong at home making children, cooking, and cleaning. That's about it. They should know their place where they belong.
The only men you can 'emasculate' are insecure, weak men. Secure men are drawn to powerful women and do not feel diminished in any way by the success of the women.
D Mc What did Sunny describe?
Exactly Joy
In my home the husband and wife are a partnership but the man is the leader. My wife has certain roles that she does, like the finances.