The REAL Differences Between 1 Ton Offroad Axle Swaps
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- Опубликовано: 4 фев 2025
- If you are thinking about upgrading to 1 Ton axles for your offroad rig, this video is for you! There are a "Ton" of pros and cons to buying a set of crate axles or going the DIY Junkyard route. In this video, we take a look at the differences between the two and some of the pros and cons.
About 5 years ago, i finished up my DIY JK Junkyard 1 ton swap on my Jeep Wrangler JK. I made videos along the way, showing how to do it practically step by step. • 1 Ton Swap Video Series
While it is a fantastic way to swap to 1 tons on a budget, they do have some drawbacks.
Crate axles offer quite a few benefits, many of which might be worth the extra price tag depending on your skill level and planned use for the vehicle.
Even if you don't need full 1 ton axles, there are still some amazing axle upgrades including crate 44s and 60s that will bolt into your Jeep with minimal modifications to your existing setup, and these swaps can be a perfect upgrade!
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A few more things that are worth mentioning.
-Ground Clearance, crate axles typically have housings designed for increased ground clearance at the diff.
-Weight, Junkyard axles can tend to be heavier than aftermarket assemblies.
-ABS/Wheel Speed Compatibility, Crate axles usually come with the correct tone ring count for modern wheel speed sensor systems, opposed to DIY axles where you have to trick the computer with odd gear and tire size calculations.
-Chromoly Axle Shafts, Crate axles typically come with new chromoly axle shafts, which offer more strength and are usually left out of the budgets of DIY Junkyard swaps.
-Steering, Advanced Driveline includes a full RPM Aluminum Steering setup with the axle, meaning no loss in steering angle or worries about building steering yourself.
-Ability to customize and spec and axle to fit your needs!
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Thanks Ben!
Your og 1ton swap is why I began watching this channel!
I just looked at a brand new left over 2023 ram 3500 6.7 regular cab long box 4x4. The price is $58,000 and change. The idea that these aftermarket axle companies charge $20K+ for a pair of axles is insane.
Cleaning off a super duty 60 absolutely sucks but I didn't have the funds to play with the big boys with crates 😂
How did I not know that the junkyard super duty 60 had an offset pinion? I don’t have a one ton swap but I’ve seen so many videos and feel like I have a lot of the knowledge of it, but I never knew the pinion was offset! Geez. That’s new to me!
You’re so good at explaining things 🔩⚙️🛠️🧰
A great video and I am glad you basically stayed in the middle saying it comes down to a decision of what you can afford or what you are capable of doing. I did a 1 ton swap back in 06 before 1 ton swaps were really a thing and most of these crate axles were not even around. I have junkyard 35 spline, late 70s Ford Dana 60s with a kingpin front. It has held up very well over the years with only a couple repairs necessary but I do agree that modern crate axles have many advantages. The pricing you mentioned?!! Whoa! I spent $1200 for both axles (2006) and kept the stock gears. The front axle had disc brakes but I did spend money on a disc brake conversion for the rear one. All my speed reduction is in the t-case (spent the money on an Atlas) and junkyard SM465 trans for a 122:1 crawl ratio with stock 3.54 gearing. That's what I could afford and yes, it took a long time to set it all up lol
Extra width on the axles also helps the jeep off camber and overall stability
Great information like always. Great part about this channel
I really need to sit down with ya sometime man and just talk about jeeps and learn some welding from your side of things !! I can install lifts all day long and adjust steering , but you make this all look so easy my friend !! You should definitely host meet and greets and teach some us how to improve our workmanship with our jeeps
4:00 $19k 😂 I don’t have that 💰total in our LS JEEP SCRAMBLER. Apparently, this is all above my pay grade🤷
For some reason I thought your cost break-down 5 years ago came to between $14k-$15k for the Junk Yard 1 ton build and not $10k. I tried to find the cost break-down video from 5 years ago and I was having problems finding it.
One additional thing to consider - Any cost benefit for junk yard axles will be quickly eliminated if you cannot do all of the work yourself. For example - if you have to pay some one to install gears, etc.
I didn’t realize those were 4” tubes and 40 spline. That’s massive, like rock bouncer axle massive…
good informational video for future updrades thank you sir!
“Swipe a credit card “😂
Might take a few credit cards depending… 😂
It's only about $20k common money in today's economy 😂
A big part of why the prices have done that. "The f### it here's my C.C." purchases.
My last rig I built my own rear axle, and had a shop install an ox in my front axle, then needed knuckles to work with my lift to clear steering, then broke stuff and in the end I would have spent about the same money on aftermarket, had less down time, and been comfortably over built. Next time I will be buying an axle set designed for my rig.
Ducks on the dash = Dana30 is plenty strong for parking lot chit chat meets
Yes but if you don't want to "keep up with the Jones" "I gotta have n run 40s" but run 35s and don't drive it like you stole it. A D30 high pinion will work for most. I've ran a XJ hard with just that for many years. Don't get me wrong I'd love to have been sticking a set of D-60s under it.
Recommendation on a yj build? Budget friendly. Going to upgrade the engine from a 2.5 to a 4.0 possibly a 4.6. On 33s maybe 35s . Keeping it a daily driver . Something to take the kids camping hit some trails. With more peace of mind then stock. Any advice is appreciated.
More awesome content, my regards to Cassie and the girls and thanks
One advantage to the heavy one tons is stability,because all that weight is down low. But Heavy is really a thing,
I heard that they call it Advanced Driveline because the guy who sets up the gears is from outer space.
This makes total sense
Great video
Coming from experience, I have done the junkyard swap Great learning experience. Don’t get me wrong. I learned a lot but the Junkyard axels are stupid I did all the work myself. Next time I’ll busting my ass for a set of crate axels. Just my opinion.
Can you explain why junkyard axles are stupid? Trying to figure out which way I want to go.
@@stevenwall3604 all the work grinding cutting really vs a Bolt in I’m a year and 2 months in with just me and 1 day a week
So like a year or 2 ago...you defended junk axles so much. I tryed explaining the benefits of crates. Sounds like maybe you selled out a little for some discounts?
I feel like the middle option is crate axle in the front, junk yard Axle in the rear lol
Great info here. Thanks!
I prefer crate axles. They’re much easier and far less time consuming to install. Time is money and crate axles save a lot of time
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We got our bolt in tons by refinancing our paid for Jeep
Hi, do you have some merch? Would be cool to have a JK Gear and Gadgets Shirt :)
Are kingpins louder than ball joints?
Kinda depends....some people say kp are stronger....BUT....the knuckles are weaker. So they spend $ to upgrade knuckles. Ball joints are say....a consumable. Run them...just don't forget them. Almost everything after day 81 is a ball joint from big 3. They work. Don't be afraid
Very cool thank you @@thehouseman81
Would it be possible to only replace one axle at a time for people who don’t have the money for 2
Not easily with true one ton axles, but the Platform specific 44/60 combos or are a good choice then
Also depends if you are doing junkyard build or not
@@JKGearandGadgets I’m buying a 2011 jeep wrangler sport on Tuesday and my goal is to run 40s. I’ll be doing minimal if any off-roading and it’ll mainly be my daily driver. I’m very new to jeeps (still don’t technically own one lol) and I’m just trying to figure out what’s the most cost effective way to run 40s reliably. Thanks for the help!
It's frustrating that companies such as Advanced Driveline don't have everything they offer on their website. They do not even show a 1550 kingpin outer setup as being available.
You aar de best
Will you be doing any more racing this year?
I hope to race at nationals here in OK in September. A lot of the races have been around 2k just to enter… and that’s just plain dumb lol
@JKGearandGadgets I thought entry fees were $800 unless it was V2R or Norra.
I'm hoping to be down at Nationals too, I also race 4500, but stars will have to align, been out almost all season dut to injuries
I will build my own junk yard axles and save money. 20k for a set of axles is way to much and would still need to run a truss as it is used to mount the link mounts. 13 to 14k for a used set finished is crazy. Learn to weld and can do a set for under 8k.
And now we know. I think 🤔 🇺🇸 👍.
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8x6.5 bolt pattern should match your tow pig,
F250, matches the JKU at least haha. Its also a good spare Junkyard axle build lol
Spend your afternoon watching this video? 😂😂😂😂
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@@JKGearandGadgets Well at least it was a rainy day most of the day today.
1 word, warranty
What if you don't want 1 tons? Well then go with 2.5 tons!
Don’t stop there, go 8 tons
@@JKGearandGadgets but I like my rockwells, strong and cheap!
Crane housings are barely $1000 each and have 4”x.5” tubes
Then add 3,600 for the magnum knuckle kit lol. Then 3k+ in shafts, 3k in lockers and gears, brakes, brackets etc, it all adds up fast. Just like how a $500 set of junkyard axles can still end up being 6/7k.
@@JKGearandGadgetsI for sure agree with that but you have to buy most of those things with the junkyard axles too. You can have them set up to run all the junkyard shafts and stuff while not dealing with the junkyard housing
Why do crate axles have to be so damn expensive 😭
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20k for axels only is too much for regular guys. Build it! Learn to weld, Might even keep yr wife in the meantime time. 😅. I have a 74 bronco, deciding between full width 44 and 9” or junkyard superduty setup. @broncoboy01 is trying to get me to go with the superduty setup.Thank you for the info!🏁🏁