My father, a former lawman in the late 1940"s, was a business man in the 1960's. He was based in Texas, but frequently was in New Mexico, where he was introduced to Jarvis Garrett. Garrett gave my father an autographed copy of his father's book. Upon my father's death in 1982, I came into possession of this book. It was an interesting read to say the least. And being a lawman for decades myself, I must admit it was a source of inspiration to me. My family were all peace officers since 1882, and ended with my own retirement in 2002. And every one of us were involved in shootings with armed fellons during our careers. Being of a family of lawmen, I was a great admirer of the lawmen of the west. Of those I held highest was Bass Reeves. He was uncompromising a great peace officer, and among my childhood heroes.
Bass Reeves seems to have always get his man from what I have read over the years. If I had to pick some one to go after a real bad man it would be Reeves or Jack Coffee Hays.
Lawmen are just people like you and me. Folk's seem to forget they eat, $hit, and zip thier pants like anyone else does. I have great respect for anyone that goes out daily and deals with dangerous people.
You are brilliant, Josh! I discovers this channel maybe less than a week ago and have binged so many of your videos , particularly the complications. I usually put on podcasts as background noise, but I absolutely can’t do that with these, they’re too darn interesting not to pay full attention.
Amazing content. Facts is always better than fiction and no one tells it better than you. Entertaining and factual. Five out of five. Thank you , I`m a Scotsman who has never visited the West but who has always been fascinated with the true history. Thanks again
Sign Me Up, Josh. I'd like to have Copies. It ain't like I already have enough "Historical Stuff scattered all over my house as it is, ner nuthin lak dat
My mate, you're growing amazing. 1.1k likes / 1 dislike, one?! What about an episode about gold rush and the whole freakshow around it? Love your content, cheers from far away Finland where we ride polar bears to school when it's too cold for the diesel engine
Hey Josh... I've got a question. I heard or read somewhere and honestly don't remember where. But I learned somewhere that Billy's body was buried but washed away in a bad storm. Is there any truth to that? Love your stuff. Have since the beginning.
Great question. I talk about this more in depth in one of the episodes...maybe the one I did titled Debunking Billy the Kid. Long story short, there was a really big flood in 1903 (check me on that year...1903-1904ish). The cemetery at Fort Sumner was under several feet of water. Couple years later all of the soldiers who were buried there were dug up and reinterred in Santa Fe. The remains of all of the soldiers, who were buried years before Billy the Kid, were all intact, remarkably well-preserved, and exactly where they were supposed to be. There's no evidence that any of the bodies at Fort Sumner - Billy the Kid's or anyone else - were washed away in the flood. I don't know where this story originated from and I thought it was a carved in stone fact myself until recently. I think it's very likely that he's still buried there under his marker, especially considering that the soldiers were still there. Also check out the book Billy the Kid's Grave by David G. Thomas to learn more.
You make the best documentary’s my man, I imagine myself at a camp fire drinking coffee and just listening to u, u got a gift my man of bringing history to life
Good episode. Quick thing: Briscoe was not a partner. It was only Glenn, Garrett, and Duke starting the partnership. The three men encountered Briscoe at Frank Conrad's store at Fort Griffin. They also encountered a man named Nick Ross (alias Nick Buck) and a cook named Grundy Burns. The Garrett-Glenn party began in the Double Mountain country, approximately 100 miles north of present day Abilene.
Bro would you PLEASE do this same kind of research and story on sheriff buford pusser from mcnairy county tn and his deputy my distant uncle deputy petey plunk. (I am payne plunk and our last name is very unique. We are all related yet i cant ever find very much info on my uncle and the sheiffs escapades i feel you could do a better job than anything out on youtube now.
@@WildWestExtravaganza as swedish i am oddly intrested in the wild west and the gunslingers pf that time, had a big book, still have it by i think his last name was or is Nash, dont know how accurate it is, but i read about John Wesley Hardin, clay allinson and all these guys, the part about Dallas always intrigued me tho. So many are mentioned in this book and i read it over and over and over again.
Excellent series Josh. Have you ever read Killing Pat Garret The Wild West Most Famous Lawman Murder or Self Defense by David G. Thomas if so what did you think of it? I have been thinking about ordering this book
For some reason his pistol sold for $6,030,313. For some reason it sold for way more than other lawmen and outlaws. As far as running into Wyatt November 27, 1879 in the Butter Bar in Jerome, Arizona Territory. I’m still amazed that Garrett didn’t get a picture of Billy this was done a lot back then. There’s a picture out there is a picture of Billy and another fellow dancing and Pat playing fiddle and a picture of Billy playing cards with 3 other guys
I love the work you present in these videos. There are a lot of sites that are accurate as far as they know. Most of them like you try to tell history, not legend.
When I was commercial fishing we had an old cook named Dutch. The food was great but don’t watch him cook it lol. Sweat would run down the tip of his nose a drop on the flat griddle and sizzle
What a good listen for old West fans..I thought the Billy series was good..but I guess Pat got a hellavu tale to be told you did it josh that part were Garrett turn and kissed homie had me dying.. hey do you do any shows outside of westerns ? Any way thanks for the hiurs of entertainment ✌🏻
@Josh-Are you sure “Juan Largo” or “Long John” was because of his tall frame? My limited Spanish would say “Juan Alto” would be more indicative of height, but what do I know? Those señoritas sure knew something!
I've just began listening to the wild west extravaganza and must admit I've really enjoyed listening to the stories seems to be well investigated and put together with just enough flare and occasional humor....
Agnostic bent... We need to see one here one about captain Comanche Moon is a favorite. When I was locked up I watched that movie over and over in my head at night good movie😊
I don’t think death photos were as common as we are led to believe. I mean, think about it…how many photos of dead old west figures can you think of off the top of your head? 10? 20? It did occur but it was nowhere near as common as we think.
I always get a few laughs hearing you, e.g., that you wouldn't be eating food prepared by a cook named Grunge and referring to Biily the Kid as BTK😂. It took a lot of courage to live in those times, especially trekking through Indian territory where the Commanches roamed free. I wonder what the average life expectancy was at that time. Thanks for all the research you put into your videos. By the way, I don't think Pat Garrett was a coward. Billy was a wily and cautious desperado who had eluded authorities time and time again so why wouldn't Garrett take whatever opportunity presented itself to do what he had to do? It was hard enough to track Billy down with little cooperation in "Billy territory," and how would it look if he allowed Billy to win again after he just recently escaped from the grips of jailers Olinger and Bell. No, it came down to either him or Billy, and just like it stated in Lee Wallace's Wanted Poster, 'Dead or Alive' so no one should blame or accuse Garrett of being a coward considering the circumstances. It was a job.
And people actually believe he would not wait no matter how long it took to get a camera and take a picture I mean that would get him in the governor's office.
I have questions 1 what ever happened to celsa gutierrez ? 2 what ever happeñed to bill carr the man arrested in connection wwith the fountain murder ? And what really happened to the man who killed garrett?
@@WildWestExtravaganza those coalition boys are pretty cool but they like to opine allot , I would gladly listen to your thoughts on those questions because they all pertain to billy the kid history and you are pretty unbiased . Your an open minded pal and if you saw my evidence for billy living after 1881 you would be surprised and astounded , I found brushy bill in 1889 in Guthrie Oklahoma as a deputy marshal and he looks 29 years old and I have a lot more . I know why he changed his name from William to Ollie after 1900 I found him in an encyclopedia of all places I have lots more
Common Logic would dictate that Unless Garrett was a Window Licking Idiot. he would have known, and was likely TOLD beforehand that his primary job was to either "Run BTK Off", or if he wouldn't leave, Arrest Or Kill Him. Garrett was no Neophyte when it came to the New Mexico Ruffians, and how they, including Billy, would take his swearing in as Sheriff. When he raised his Right Hand, Garrett was Officially "The Enemy", and being the Consummate Opportunist that Garrett was, he knew it too. Sides had been chosen and the outcome, whatever it would be, was just a matter of time
Like Ted Nugent says in his song "The Great White Buffalo", the Indians needed food and some skins for a roof, they only took what they needed, millions of buffalo were their proof, and then came the white dog with his thick and empty head, he couldn't see past his billfold, he wanted all the buffalo dead. No more words could have been more true, what big big shame! Luckily someone came in and saved the last small small herd, i believe those were the plains buffalo too, there was two different type of buffalo, the plains and the woodland buffalo, and one's horns were turned up while the others horns were turned down, or something like that. And the plains buffalo was the ones that numbered in the millions.
The truth of the matter is the only one that got this right and proved that he was correct was brushy Bill Roberts. He said Tom's name was Tom O. Falliard. Brushy bill is the only one that got this right even historians were calling him o'falliard.
I don't even know about Pat Garrett multiple people said that he ran away screaming like a woman as did his deputies. This was after the supposed shooting of the kid and because he believed he only wounded him or perhaps didn't even hit him at all he was running screaming. Selena Maxwell came outside told Pat Garrett once again he had shot the wrong man and finally they got him calmed down to come back and look at the body. He told multiple friends that he thought for sure that that was Billy the kid but it was a half-breed Mexican with a beard. Zelina Maxwell said her her father and the coroner's jury along with Pat Garrett and his deputies all knew that it was not Billy the kid. She said the coroner's jury were all friends of Billy the kid and they told her later they said it was Billy the kid to both give him a chance to escape and to get the law off his back as they were great friends of his. Selena said she told the very unbreak Pat Garrett and deputies that it was Billy the kid for the same reason. She said I'm telling you because we all knew it was not Billy the kid we allowed our friend to escape and it worked. She claims also that he stopped off at the ranch multiple times after his supposed death. She said the deputies at first told Pat Garrett he had shot the wrong man as this man had a beard and Billy the kid was known to not be able to grow one in fact he could barely grow a mustache. Show Pat Garrett and his deputies also claimed it was Billy the kid but for a different reason to save Pat Garrett from The hangman's noose. And is everyone says it doesn't matter how far the camera was Pat Garrett would have made sure to stick Billy the kid on ice and get a picture of him as this would likely put him in the governor's mansion. He could feel the forward to take a picture as any other lawman would do because it was well known at least around that town that that in fact was not Billy the kid. This is the also the reason that Pat Garrett told the grave diggers under no circumstances are they to open the coffin. He did not have to bully the coroner's jury into saying it was Billy the kid as some people claim they were only quite willing to say it was Billy the kid to allow him the chance to escape. Same thing with zelina Maxwell. Years later even her father seemed to confirm the story when asked by a man if it was really Billy the kid Pete Maxwell is reported to have said not unless Billy magically grew a beard overnight and I turned Mexican. He is reported to have said that Pat Garrett said it was Billy the kid for two reasons first he was tired of chasing Billy the kid he wanted the reward for Billy the kid and he did not want to face a coroner after shooting a wrong man that was in fact unwanted. Back then even lonely and we're not above the ball unlocked today and they can put their own head in the noose for shooting an innocent man. Selena was the first person in the building and at first she was crying until she saw the man. Then she smiled as she formulated a plan right then to get Billy the kid both free of the law and presumed dead. The coroner's jury were also Mexican and they said it was Billy the kid for the same reason although not one of them believed it. The pinkertons who done the same thing for Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid they went to Bolivia heard about the supposed gunfight knew that there was no way that was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid and kept them on their wanted posters. They believe the same thing happened to Billy the kid and so they had a warrant for him as well and they kept him on the warrant. At first there is actually a paper on this the governor refused to pay the award because he said there was no evidence that Billy the kid was dead and in fact there was more evidence to suggest he was alive. After a while he did receive the reward in addition to about 10 times more money so you actually became wealthy for shooting an innocent man.to me it's it's amazing that people are so quick to claim Billy the kid back then and even today for the shooting of sheriff Brady when there was six other men with him also firing and no one knows who's bullet took down brady. It is more likely that Billy would have been shooting at Billy Matthews who survived the gunfight as he Billy was known to hate the man. Billy the kid's bullet or one of six other men took the life of sheriff Brady and his deputy. But I believe firmly and I'll never believe otherwise and no I'm not necessarily talking about brushy bill that Billy the kid survived and outfox them all. It will never be proven however the people that claim he is dead can't prove that he did die in 1881 either. If you had to win around Texas New Mexico or Arizona at that time you wouldn't have found a single man that actually believed that Pat Garrett had shot Billy the kid because even back then they were saying oh he would have definitely put him on ice and took a photograph. They make all sorts of lies about brushy Bill and he may be lying but he did speak Spanish fluently as did Billy the kid as he spoke to a woman in New Mexico in 1949 quite fluently. Also he was ambidextrous as Billy the kid was said to be and he could escape Cubs which only one in 100 million men are estimated to be able to do. There was hardly 100 million people in the entire world at that time so it's odd that you can see two different men in New Mexico that can escape Cuffs that's beyond astronomical. And there is much more evidence suggesting that Billy the kid survived a lot more than there is suggesting he was killed as even the governor at the time believed that Billy the kid escaped but he had Pat Garrett denying it for a very good reason due to his own safety and his desire to get the money I mean he was greedy wasn't he. He used the money to open a hotel as well as buy a home. Pretty good restitution for shooting a man that probably in all probability was not Billy the kid. Another side note Billy the kid's horse was gone and it was never seen again. The half-breeds horse was also in the corral and it was never ever claimed again. That's not an opinion that's a fact.
@WildWestExtravaganza - Not what I meant Josh. A lot of us like You for You. The rolling Rs are great. Because it's not every time. It's just when you feel it. I've actually been driving down the road and done both the Rolling R and the Ye Hay which is in the intro song.....Out Loud. With a big smile. I for one think you have a talent for this. I want to see you succeed.
None of this is true! I know because my neighbors cat is Pat Garret reincarnated and from what I can decipher from his meows the Pat Garret story is way different
That has yet to be proven. We can make a guess but there’s still no actual proof that he was born in NYC. His mother was living Indianapolis in the late 1860s but Billy’s name doesn’t first appear in known documents until his mother’s marriage to Antrim
Ronald, it has crossed my mind that children could listen. After all, this is the Internet, and anyone can have access to it. I've always hoped that parents and grandparents do a little better at monitoring what their children are consuming. This channel's focus is Old West history, and Old West history is comprised of a series of violent atrocities and merciless killings. Vigilante justice, mob rule, assassinations, etc. Pat Garrett lived a violent life, and he died violently. The man was shot in the back while taking a leak. Why would anyone think this would be an appropriate topic for a child to listen to? Real-life Old West history is not hee-haw. Real life is not a black-and-white AMC Western where the good guys always win. It's scary and dark and violent. This channel is not meant for children to consume and I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be.
When you start using terms like "BFF" I tune out. I just stop the video. What are you going to tell me next that neither Billy not Garrett used Twitter? Stop it.
It's a bit more complicated than that. There wasn't actual rule of law. Some of the judges and many of the law enforcement officers were also murderers and it was kill or be killed - or try to run away and wonder if you would be hunted down, if ever found without friends who would literally have your back. Almost all the participants were guilty to a certain extent, but you have to immerse yourself in both the moral and physical context of the reality of the situation. It really was a war, an organized crime war, and the corruption goes all the way up to the top.
My father, a former lawman in the late 1940"s, was a business man in the 1960's. He was based in Texas, but frequently was in New Mexico, where he was introduced to Jarvis Garrett. Garrett gave my father an autographed copy of his father's book. Upon my father's death in 1982, I came into possession of this book. It was an interesting read to say the least. And being a lawman for decades myself, I must admit it was a source of inspiration to me. My family were all peace officers since 1882, and ended with my own retirement in 2002. And every one of us were involved in shootings with armed fellons during our careers. Being of a family of lawmen, I was a great admirer of the lawmen of the west. Of those I held highest was Bass Reeves. He was uncompromising a great peace officer, and among my childhood heroes.
Bass Reeves seems to have always get his man from what I have read over the years. If I had to pick some one to go after a real bad man it would be Reeves or Jack Coffee Hays.
Bet he had plenty of stories
Lawmen are just people like you and me. Folk's seem to forget they eat, $hit, and zip thier pants like anyone else does. I have great respect for anyone that goes out daily and deals with dangerous people.
Thanks for sharing your story.
Crazy how my Texas history class rarely mentioned the cattle wars of West Texas and New Mexico
Saving this 3hr Banger for the weekend . Thank you Josh
Gracias
@@WildWestExtravaganza if you ever need material NED KELLY would make a great episode .
This is so amazing keep history alive.Thank you for sharing
Thanks Barbara
You are brilliant, Josh! I discovers this channel maybe less than a week ago and have binged so many of your videos , particularly the complications. I usually put on podcasts as background noise, but I absolutely can’t do that with these, they’re too darn interesting not to pay full attention.
Hey thanks man
I really appreciate your history lessons with each episode, and your humor is over the top
I appreciate you listening
Amazing content. Facts is always better than fiction and no one tells it better than you. Entertaining and factual. Five out of five. Thank you , I`m a Scotsman who has never visited the West but who has always been fascinated with the true history. Thanks again
Wow, thanks
Josh..
Have you considered publishing you broadcasts.would be great reading when no internet available…
I have but I’m not sure how much demand there is
@@WildWestExtravaganzaI'd definitely be I terested.
@@terrilandry1191it would have to be worth his time and money
Sign Me Up, Josh. I'd like to have Copies. It ain't like I already have enough "Historical Stuff scattered all over my house as it is, ner nuthin lak dat
Josh, you are keeping it REAL!
I'm trying, bro
I live in ireland and I find this fascinating, I think you have a very distinctive voice, I love listening to it
Thanks for listening
Hi from Australia. Love the channel 👍
Watch out for the dingos mate
@@WildWestExtravaganza No wuckers cobber
Thank you Josh. If I don't hear from you before Sunday, Happy Father's Day!! For you, and all the dads out there...
Happy father’s day!
Thumbs up before I even listen to it
Exactly!
Thumbs up to your comment before I pressed play
Normally I would disagree in doing that but this guys sense of humor and sarcasm is legendary so yes definite thumbs up before listening
I liked straight after he said.
Wild West EXTRAAVAAGAAAANZAAA!!!
I love that😂
Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏻💯
@@lburnstein196 thumbs for everyone!
History of the Wild West is fascinating… this channel is awesome, a BIG thumbs up from 🇬🇧👍🏻👍🏻 🤠
Thank you from Texas!
What I love about this site is you relay the facts (whatever you can retreive) with your opinion clearly stated as such. Facts make the people real.
Thank you, Greg Hardy
I'm gonna have to listen to this 7 times, because I'm tuning in at bedtime. But, listen I must. Thanks Josh!
Thank YOU
You do such very good stuff love listening to you keep on doing what you ate doing thank you 😊
Thank you!
You do very nice work.
Every time.
Much appreciated
Peace
Thank you!
made my evening better again. Thanks always,
My pleasure!
great story of the long leggegged specimien
My mate, you're growing amazing. 1.1k likes / 1 dislike, one?! What about an episode about gold rush and the whole freakshow around it? Love your content, cheers from far away Finland where we ride polar bears to school when it's too cold for the diesel engine
Thank you! Great suggestion
Hey Josh... I've got a question. I heard or read somewhere and honestly don't remember where. But I learned somewhere that Billy's body was buried but washed away in a bad storm. Is there any truth to that? Love your stuff. Have since the beginning.
Great question. I talk about this more in depth in one of the episodes...maybe the one I did titled Debunking Billy the Kid. Long story short, there was a really big flood in 1903 (check me on that year...1903-1904ish). The cemetery at Fort Sumner was under several feet of water.
Couple years later all of the soldiers who were buried there were dug up and reinterred in Santa Fe. The remains of all of the soldiers, who were buried years before Billy the Kid, were all intact, remarkably well-preserved, and exactly where they were supposed to be.
There's no evidence that any of the bodies at Fort Sumner - Billy the Kid's or anyone else - were washed away in the flood. I don't know where this story originated from and I thought it was a carved in stone fact myself until recently. I think it's very likely that he's still buried there under his marker, especially considering that the soldiers were still there.
Also check out the book Billy the Kid's Grave by David G. Thomas to learn more.
You make the best documentary’s my man, I imagine myself at a camp fire drinking coffee and just listening to u, u got a gift my man of bringing history to life
Thank you
been a minute since i seen one of these pop up. hope all is well! keep doing ur thing josh.
I found your El Paso Times article. Just emailed you with an image of the full page from the newspaper.
Good episode. Quick thing: Briscoe was not a partner. It was only Glenn, Garrett, and Duke starting the partnership. The three men encountered Briscoe at Frank Conrad's store at Fort Griffin. They also encountered a man named Nick Ross (alias Nick Buck) and a cook named Grundy Burns. The Garrett-Glenn party began in the Double Mountain country, approximately 100 miles north of present day Abilene.
Good info
Love these compilations Josh! Perfect evening's entertainment! Snacks, drinks & WWE! 🤘🍕🍾🍸🤠 👍
Glad you like them
Josh... You. Are. Awesome. Keep doing your thing!
Thanks man!
I haven’t listened yet but 3 hours? Damn Josh, you the man!
Bro would you PLEASE do this same kind of research and story on sheriff buford pusser from mcnairy county tn and his deputy my distant uncle deputy petey plunk. (I am payne plunk and our last name is very unique. We are all related yet i cant ever find very much info on my uncle and the sheiffs escapades i feel you could do a better job than anything out on youtube now.
Can you do an episode of Dallas Stoudenmire
Absolutely
@@WildWestExtravaganza as swedish i am oddly intrested in the wild west and the gunslingers pf that time, had a big book, still have it by i think his last name was or is Nash, dont know how accurate it is, but i read about John Wesley Hardin, clay allinson and all these guys, the part about Dallas always intrigued me tho. So many are mentioned in this book and i read it over and over and over again.
Right on! Keeping the needle moving, my man!!
Nothing I despise more than a disloyal sonbeach.
Nothing I love more than a three hour bloody upload.
Keep em coming J. THUMBSUP
Josh , does this comments not accept links ?
I tried 4 times but it kept disappearing...
Hmmm good question, I’ve never tried
Excellent series Josh. Have you ever read Killing Pat Garret The Wild West Most Famous Lawman Murder or Self Defense by David G. Thomas if so what did you think of it? I have been thinking about ordering this book
I have not but I own two other books by Mr Thomas. He seems to do very solid research.
For some reason his pistol sold for $6,030,313. For some reason it sold for way more than other lawmen and outlaws. As far as running into Wyatt November 27, 1879 in the Butter Bar in Jerome, Arizona Territory.
I’m still amazed that Garrett didn’t get a picture of Billy this was done a lot back then. There’s a picture out there is a picture of Billy and another fellow dancing and Pat playing fiddle and a picture of Billy playing cards with 3 other guys
I love the work you present in these videos. There are a lot of sites that are accurate as far as they know. Most of them like you try to tell history, not legend.
Glad you like them
thanks hammer as always good stuff
In Kansas, anyone from Missouri is a bushwacker😊 Love the longer epsodes
When I was commercial fishing we had an old cook named Dutch. The food was great but don’t watch him cook it lol. Sweat would run down the tip of his nose a drop on the flat griddle and sizzle
Delicious
The secret sauce
@@WildWestExtravaganza
Never ask to watch the sausage making.
What a good listen for old West fans..I thought the Billy series was good..but I guess Pat got a hellavu tale to be told you did it josh that part were Garrett turn and kissed homie had me dying.. hey do you do any shows outside of westerns ? Any way thanks for the hiurs of entertainment ✌🏻
Thanks! Not yet but I hope to in the future
Watch out boys...hes rolln those rrr'sin the intro...banger alert.
You had me in the first 80 seconds!
Absolutely top notch work! I have a lot of respect for the work you do 🫡
Much appreciated!
Oh boy here we go , let the arguing begin.
JOSH AND WEDNESDAY IN EFFECT!......the world is at peace again.....🙂🙂
I am Garrett's son because we have the same name?😅😅😅 Great episode with an honest opinion.
Ha thanks
Good evening sir!
Evening
@Josh-Are you sure “Juan Largo” or “Long John” was because of his tall frame? My limited Spanish would say “Juan Alto” would be more indicative of height, but what do I know? Those señoritas sure knew something!
Thank you for the rolling of your 'R' !
(Insert high pitched voice) But Josh….theres no way Pat killed Brushy……
PALS…
All your stuff is good! 🍻
I appreciate that!
0:47 The worst of the worst. The Rosy Cheek Gang. 🤣👍🍻
Ha
I've just began listening to the wild west extravaganza and must admit I've really enjoyed listening to the stories seems to be well investigated and put together with just enough flare and occasional humor....
Thx again Josh
You know the game is up when Killer Miller comes a callin' (offering to buy your ranch).
Questioning religion makes me become a fan of the man
I was wrong on the tv show tombstone territory , that old show was the Tall man ,sorry
Intergalactic & Billy the Kid wow, sounds like Josh is going deep diving tonight.🤟
Space. The final frontier
Lol thats freaking funny! Thanks 🤟
Agnostic bent...
We need to see one here one about captain
Comanche Moon is a favorite. When I was locked up I watched that movie over and over in my head at night good movie😊
Josh!! Thanks bud
Any time!
Looks like Garrett's old lady's name, should have been, Wall Eye Garrett! 😂
I wonder why they didn’t take a death pic of wild bill, I know I’m changing topic, 🤪just curious
I don’t think death photos were as common as we are led to believe. I mean, think about it…how many photos of dead old west figures can you think of off the top of your head? 10? 20?
It did occur but it was nowhere near as common as we think.
There might not have been a photographer in Deadwood at the time yet.
There probably wasn't a photographer in Deadwood at the time.
I always get a few laughs hearing you, e.g., that you wouldn't be eating food prepared by a cook named Grunge and referring to Biily the Kid as BTK😂. It took a lot of courage to live in those times, especially trekking through Indian territory where the Commanches roamed free. I wonder what the average life expectancy was at that time.
Thanks for all the research you put into your videos.
By the way, I don't think Pat Garrett was a coward. Billy was a wily and cautious desperado who had eluded authorities time and time again so why wouldn't Garrett take whatever opportunity presented itself to do what he had to do? It was hard enough to track Billy down with little cooperation in "Billy territory," and how would it look if he allowed Billy to win again after he just recently escaped from the grips of jailers Olinger and Bell. No, it came down to either him or Billy, and just like it stated in Lee Wallace's Wanted Poster, 'Dead or Alive' so no one should blame or accuse Garrett of being a coward considering the circumstances. It was a job.
Good take
And people actually believe he would not wait no matter how long it took to get a camera and take a picture I mean that would get him in the governor's office.
I have questions 1 what ever happened to celsa gutierrez ? 2 what ever happeñed to bill carr the man arrested in connection wwith the fountain murder ? And what really happened to the man who killed garrett?
The boys over at the Billy the Kid Coalition have some good info on Celsa
@@WildWestExtravaganza those coalition boys are pretty cool but they like to opine allot , I would gladly listen to your thoughts on those questions because they all pertain to billy the kid history and you are pretty unbiased . Your an open minded pal and if you saw my evidence for billy living after 1881 you would be surprised and astounded , I found brushy bill in 1889 in Guthrie Oklahoma as a deputy marshal and he looks 29 years old and I have a lot more . I know why he changed his name from William to Ollie after 1900 I found him in an encyclopedia of all places I have lots more
Common Logic would dictate that Unless Garrett was a Window Licking Idiot. he would have known, and was likely TOLD beforehand that his primary job was to either
"Run BTK Off", or if he wouldn't leave, Arrest Or Kill Him.
Garrett was no Neophyte when it came to the New Mexico Ruffians, and how they, including Billy, would take his swearing in as Sheriff. When he raised his Right Hand, Garrett was Officially "The Enemy", and being the Consummate Opportunist that Garrett was, he knew it too. Sides had been chosen and the outcome, whatever it would be, was just a matter of time
Imagine being 6 foot 4 back then 😂,
There is a distinction between Bison and buffalo. Do you know which it was?
All I know is in the U.S. what we call buffalo are technically “bison bison” but back in the old days everybody called them buffalo anyway
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Everbuddy gots to git their not pickin' in.
Like Ted Nugent says in his song "The Great White Buffalo", the Indians needed food and some skins for a roof, they only took what they needed, millions of buffalo were their proof, and then came the white dog with his thick and empty head, he couldn't see past his billfold, he wanted all the buffalo dead. No more words could have been more true, what big big shame! Luckily someone came in and saved the last small small herd, i believe those were the plains buffalo too, there was two different type of buffalo, the plains and the woodland buffalo, and one's horns were turned up while the others horns were turned down, or something like that. And the plains buffalo was the ones that numbered in the millions.
Yes!! I was going into withdrawals.
I believe the eradication of the bison may have been a contributing factor in the Dust Bowl.
Wehn you say BTK it makes me think of the serial killer 😂
I haven’t been this early since I saw Billy the Kid get abducted by the aliens.
I knew you were in on it
The truth of the matter is the only one that got this right and proved that he was correct was brushy Bill Roberts. He said Tom's name was Tom O. Falliard. Brushy bill is the only one that got this right even historians were calling him o'falliard.
I believe the verdict is still out
@@WildWestExtravaganzaI believe all the Brushy-believers just prove P.T. Barnum is the one who really got things RIGHT!
Lets be honest, neither man was interested in a hollow type duel.
Grew up with 35 slaves? Safe to say he never worked a hard days work in his life. Laziness and greed are two things that still thrive today.
Interesting video.
Hell yeah brother
This gonna be fun 😎
Let's get 40K more subscribers with this video.
I’ll take it
I don't even know about Pat Garrett multiple people said that he ran away screaming like a woman as did his deputies. This was after the supposed shooting of the kid and because he believed he only wounded him or perhaps didn't even hit him at all he was running screaming. Selena Maxwell came outside told Pat Garrett once again he had shot the wrong man and finally they got him calmed down to come back and look at the body. He told multiple friends that he thought for sure that that was Billy the kid but it was a half-breed Mexican with a beard. Zelina Maxwell said her her father and the coroner's jury along with Pat Garrett and his deputies all knew that it was not Billy the kid. She said the coroner's jury were all friends of Billy the kid and they told her later they said it was Billy the kid to both give him a chance to escape and to get the law off his back as they were great friends of his. Selena said she told the very unbreak Pat Garrett and deputies that it was Billy the kid for the same reason. She said I'm telling you because we all knew it was not Billy the kid we allowed our friend to escape and it worked. She claims also that he stopped off at the ranch multiple times after his supposed death. She said the deputies at first told Pat Garrett he had shot the wrong man as this man had a beard and Billy the kid was known to not be able to grow one in fact he could barely grow a mustache. Show Pat Garrett and his deputies also claimed it was Billy the kid but for a different reason to save Pat Garrett from The hangman's noose. And is everyone says it doesn't matter how far the camera was Pat Garrett would have made sure to stick Billy the kid on ice and get a picture of him as this would likely put him in the governor's mansion. He could feel the forward to take a picture as any other lawman would do because it was well known at least around that town that that in fact was not Billy the kid. This is the also the reason that Pat Garrett told the grave diggers under no circumstances are they to open the coffin. He did not have to bully the coroner's jury into saying it was Billy the kid as some people claim they were only quite willing to say it was Billy the kid to allow him the chance to escape. Same thing with zelina Maxwell. Years later even her father seemed to confirm the story when asked by a man if it was really Billy the kid Pete Maxwell is reported to have said not unless Billy magically grew a beard overnight and I turned Mexican. He is reported to have said that Pat Garrett said it was Billy the kid for two reasons first he was tired of chasing Billy the kid he wanted the reward for Billy the kid and he did not want to face a coroner after shooting a wrong man that was in fact unwanted. Back then even lonely and we're not above the ball unlocked today and they can put their own head in the noose for shooting an innocent man. Selena was the first person in the building and at first she was crying until she saw the man. Then she smiled as she formulated a plan right then to get Billy the kid both free of the law and presumed dead. The coroner's jury were also Mexican and they said it was Billy the kid for the same reason although not one of them believed it. The pinkertons who done the same thing for Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid they went to Bolivia heard about the supposed gunfight knew that there was no way that was Butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid and kept them on their wanted posters. They believe the same thing happened to Billy the kid and so they had a warrant for him as well and they kept him on the warrant. At first there is actually a paper on this the governor refused to pay the award because he said there was no evidence that Billy the kid was dead and in fact there was more evidence to suggest he was alive. After a while he did receive the reward in addition to about 10 times more money so you actually became wealthy for shooting an innocent man.to me it's it's amazing that people are so quick to claim Billy the kid back then and even today for the shooting of sheriff Brady when there was six other men with him also firing and no one knows who's bullet took down brady. It is more likely that Billy would have been shooting at Billy Matthews who survived the gunfight as he Billy was known to hate the man. Billy the kid's bullet or one of six other men took the life of sheriff Brady and his deputy. But I believe firmly and I'll never believe otherwise and no I'm not necessarily talking about brushy bill that Billy the kid survived and outfox them all. It will never be proven however the people that claim he is dead can't prove that he did die in 1881 either. If you had to win around Texas New Mexico or Arizona at that time you wouldn't have found a single man that actually believed that Pat Garrett had shot Billy the kid because even back then they were saying oh he would have definitely put him on ice and took a photograph. They make all sorts of lies about brushy Bill and he may be lying but he did speak Spanish fluently as did Billy the kid as he spoke to a woman in New Mexico in 1949 quite fluently. Also he was ambidextrous as Billy the kid was said to be and he could escape Cubs which only one in 100 million men are estimated to be able to do. There was hardly 100 million people in the entire world at that time so it's odd that you can see two different men in New Mexico that can escape Cuffs that's beyond astronomical. And there is much more evidence suggesting that Billy the kid survived a lot more than there is suggesting he was killed as even the governor at the time believed that Billy the kid escaped but he had Pat Garrett denying it for a very good reason due to his own safety and his desire to get the money I mean he was greedy wasn't he. He used the money to open a hotel as well as buy a home. Pretty good restitution for shooting a man that probably in all probability was not Billy the kid. Another side note Billy the kid's horse was gone and it was never seen again. The half-breeds horse was also in the corral and it was never ever claimed again. That's not an opinion that's a fact.
lol. Never change, man
But Jo-osh! Brushy Bill Roberts proved that Pat the rat did NOT shoot Billy the Kid!
Josh. You think Billy The Kid would stop rolling his R's when he felt like it, just because? Be You Man.
I cannot imagine making a choice based on whether or not Billy the Kid would approve haha
@WildWestExtravaganza - Not what I meant Josh. A lot of us like You for You. The rolling Rs are great. Because it's not every time. It's just when you feel it. I've actually been driving down the road and done both the Rolling R and the Ye Hay which is in the intro song.....Out Loud. With a big smile. I for one think you have a talent for this. I want to see you succeed.
Pat Garrett looked like a tweaker!
There was no food stamps , welfare or GIVERMENT housing back then so everyone was on their own to feed them selves. I.e. he was skinny as F☆○♧
They grew up rich with 30 + slaves.
Seems like they were well off
Yeah but not close friends? Oh really, ok.
According to Paulita Maxwell they were very close friends, so there is that
None of this is true! I know because my neighbors cat is Pat Garret reincarnated and from what I can decipher from his meows the Pat Garret story is way different
I knew it!
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The catholic diocese of ny has Billy’s baptismal record
That has yet to be proven. We can make a guess but there’s still no actual proof that he was born in NYC. His mother was living Indianapolis in the late 1860s but Billy’s name doesn’t first appear in known documents until his mother’s marriage to Antrim
Did you just say I have a little weewee cause I didn’t like the Barbie movie? Wtf lol
Yeah
@@WildWestExtravaganza I don’t think that’s how that works lol
@@scionixx9568 are you sure???
@@WildWestExtravaganza yes
@@scionixx9568 hmmm, source?
Omg u sound like fuckn danny mcbride
Never heard that before
I don't understand why you resort to such vulgarity on your programs. Did it ever occur to you there might be children listening to your channel?
Ronald, it has crossed my mind that children could listen. After all, this is the Internet, and anyone can have access to it.
I've always hoped that parents and grandparents do a little better at monitoring what their children are consuming. This channel's focus is Old West history, and Old West history is comprised of a series of violent atrocities and merciless killings. Vigilante justice, mob rule, assassinations, etc.
Pat Garrett lived a violent life, and he died violently. The man was shot in the back while taking a leak. Why would anyone think this would be an appropriate topic for a child to listen to?
Real-life Old West history is not hee-haw. Real life is not a black-and-white AMC Western where the good guys always win. It's scary and dark and violent.
This channel is not meant for children to consume and I can't imagine anyone thinking it would be.
SNAP!!
Garrity was more of a criminal then Billy the kid was
How?
What the heck happened at 11:20 ? Lol I got so confused I thought my video was lagging or something
lol, that’s your glimpse behind the veil, also proof that I’m not AI
When you start using terms like "BFF" I tune out. I just stop the video. What are you going to tell me next that neither Billy not Garrett used Twitter? Stop it.
I use terms like that specifically to ensure that people like you tune out.
Lmao very good Josh 😅@WildWestExtravaganza
Billy was a murderer. Putting down a murderer is not snitching. Grow up.
Huh?
It's a bit more complicated than that. There wasn't actual rule of law. Some of the judges and many of the law enforcement officers were also murderers and it was kill or be killed - or try to run away and wonder if you would be hunted down, if ever found without friends who would literally have your back. Almost all the participants were guilty to a certain extent, but you have to immerse yourself in both the moral and physical context of the reality of the situation. It really was a war, an organized crime war, and the corruption goes all the way up to the top.
@@paulmurphy9358why in God's green earth would you use rational thought and recognize nuance???