Just found your channel and found it very informative. I have a 2019.5 silverado RST 5.3L 4x4 with 2" leveling kit, wide stance, and more less a wind tunnel disaster. I have been looking for a tow setup video. Last yr we pulled a 4500lb camper through the hills and several times I found that I was running 4800 rpm's (normal is 1900 @ 70mph empty) for an extended time. This truck is my daily driver so I don't need anything radical but a little more low end power would be fun. Hoping to find a DIY setup. Thanks, if you have a chance to make us truck owners a tow/haul improvement video.
I love this engine. Mine is currently at 197,000 miles with 5200 hours on the original motor and everything. Finally put longtubes on her at 190k and tuned. This motor loves e85 too 😂
2014 single cab 5.3 4x4, BTR Stage 2, LT4 HPFP and Injectors, LS7 lifters, 6.2 Intake and TB, Longtubes and a dumped super 10. Truck absolutely scoots. Chirps in third with 22s and a 3.42 rear end which is wild to me lmao
You should test the LT2 intake manifold and 95mm tb in place of that msd intake manifold. The MSD manifold is stupid expensive and at that point, boost with a Holley high ram is more desirable.
Hey Richard. Love these experiments you do for the gen 5 lt1. I have a btr stage 2 cam, msd manifold and Landspeed stage 3 heads that are milled and MR James Short did my tuning and i couldn't be happier. Great guy who knows his stuff. Richard keep up the good work and these test you run.
I talked to a tuner who wasn’t sure of himself. Typically you’ll know! If you can’t locate a proper tuner best just go with a mild cam. These can take all day to tune I’ve been told.
this was impressive but due to the need of cutting the pistons for clearance... I would rather see the results of the stage 3 cam tested this way. please keep testing the LT series. loving the info on them.
Love the content. I’d like to keep my gen V l83 around since it’s a 2016 gmc Sierra Denali with the dreaded afm. What is the best kit with the most reliable setup with a little more power but again more reliable.
It’s not expensive.. if you want to make the power these engines make you would have to spend more on the older engines. End of day they are cheaper. You can get a 385 hp 6.0 for $1900 and slap it on a car and call it a day. For you to get 385 hp from a sbc 350 you’re looking at $500 for the block $2000 for a good set of heads. $800 for the complete cam kit and $400 for an intake. You ended up paying more to make same power with sbc.
@@Miguelspl150 Not always true. I can source complete small blocks for much cheaper than that price but at the same time, I can source a 6.0 for about the same price. You cant get a 6.0 running in a car nearly as cheap as a carbed, mechanical pumped sbc. The cost of computer components, ignition, and tuning makes for less than an affordable swap. Meanwhile, I had a 350 with a mild cam running in a Berlinetta with a couple of wires and hand tools.
Now I'm tempted to pull the turbo L59 (gen 3.5 5.3) out of my fox and put one of these in. I need to drop weight off of the nose since I find myself using it for autocross. Similar power, lighter weight, less heat. I've heard something about the Gen V 5.3 cranks not being machined for a pilot bushing or something. I'd need to solve that issue before I commit. I'm on Holley Terminator X so I'd just need to upgrade to the new model that runs the Gen V.
I would expect engine for engine this would make more power and weigh at leastn100 lbs less. About to build one of these myself. Wondering what the limits of the stock cast crank is. Would be nice if GM would have put a forged unit in like they did the 6.2 *lt4?). You running a turbo 400 with a stall? I bet in the fox body it scoots!
I would like to see a comparison between the stock gen5 and a modified gen3 or 4 that makes about the same peak power so that we can see the difference in torque and power underneath the curve.
Time for a 6l90e! Not a lot more expensive but man the torque! capacity Ithink it is around 2" longer so may necessitate a drive shaft swap. Do a stall converter at the same time and I would bet you pull a half a second off your 1/4 mile time.
You guys should do a build with gen 4 rods and pistons in a gen v I have a block im building and I know one other person with a l86 putting summit pro ls rod and pistons in it stock heads stock direct injectors with hold downs running port injection and e85 my buddies running a TExas speed BFD cam and everything clears but no one I know has videos about it
Love your channel! Been watching it none stop! I'm looking to put a better cam in my 2004 gmc sierra. LM7 5.3. What would be a good stage one kit? My truck is all stock. I wanted to change lifters too.
A cam designed/spec'd by David Vizard with intake/exhaust specs at 194-200 @ .050 lift on 108 LSA. David Vizard's expertise is worth looking into because he says to give the engine what it wants...Not what you think it wants.
Hi Richard, My name is Shreyvon and I have a technical question for you Sir. I’ve got a mild L83 build going and I was hoping to get your opinion on possible end result power gains. So far I’ve got a LT1 camshaft, LS3 lifters and trays to get rid of DOD/AFM, LT2 intake manifold and throttle body, LT4 injectors & pump, remote water pump hookups, and other supporting mods. My serpentine belt is only turning the alternator and that’s it. I’ve got an electric motor for the power steering and like I said before hookups for an electric water pump. My plan is to run E85 and drop this engine into 2,700lbs T56 car that I have waiting for it.
@richardholdener1727 ...what are you guys doing about vacuum? I know that because of direct injection, GM installed a vacuum pump on these engines. I would assume we would not want to remove that for a car run daily on the streets. I pity anyone that does that for any length of time for the amount of garbage that will build up on the back of the valves. Maybe an electric vacuum pump is available.
Man i was so excited about this engine that i immediately clicked on their link to find it so i could but it, but unfortunately they want close to 5k for this engine with no warranty at all😞 It's listed 'as is no warranty". That sucks because I'm trying to find a good powerful 5.3l engine to replace the one in my Yukon XL and i thought that I'd found the perfect set-up but the "as is" thing killed it😂
What are you recommendations for a 2014 GMC Sierra with a 5.3. Is it worth purchasing when it has 143,000 miles on the truck? Truck is still in really clean shape. Engine is really clean. Want to get rid of the AFM bs.
I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado Z71 5.3 LT. Just put rebuilt transmission in. Failed due to hot 🔥 thermostat on it. I have since installed a cooler thermostat on the rebuilt one. I'm looking at installing a stage 2 BTR cam kit. At what stage do I change converter. Thnx. Love your channel
I'm looking at doin a diablosport predator platinum 2. Once I tune the truck and to take it to the shop. When I return it back to stock will they dealership see its been tuned. I still have a little warranty left
Stage 3 cam? Duration seem too low for a stage 3 cam. Is that cam phaser the same as 4th gen cam phaser? Because it looks alot like the one I took out from my car and replaced it with a compcam one.
How much power were you getting from varying the cam with the BTR cam? Was this all stock ECU tuning? This would be really attractive with a Holley. Supposedly those blocks are really tough, going to be VERY interested to see this run forced induction. Something with port injection on top of stockish sized DI maybe? These are DI right? Did you try changing phase of the injection at all? I believe on the DI it can be worth more than on a port injected LS? Also, REALLY enjoyed your chat with Sloppy - it was an awesome podcast!
I thought the BTR DOD delete cams also locked out the variable cam timing. Do some of theor cams do this and not all of them (for the l83) or am I misunderstanding what their cams are doing? Thanks
So with the stage 3 is it worth the money to swap intake as well? Doing budget swap with L83 into 05 RX8. Have basically new bone stock L83 w/ C6. Would like to bump a little prior to plugging it. Will definitely get the stage 3, but should I get the intake or no?
100% agreed! I have a 92 camaro rs with lots of UMI parts, konis, ls1 brake upgrade, upgraded 3.73 rear, built 700r4, and a 98 350vortec pumping out 430whp. Fun car, but it would be a much superior car with an upgraded L83 with 500hp!
I know this is an older video, but do you have any insight into throttle hang on Gen 5 motors, especially in front of manual transmissions? My L83 will not drop to idle when I depress the clutch.
Have you seen Eric wiengarter video about bore size affecting head flow? The guy definitely knows his cylinder heads and bigger bore seemed to help flow
510fwhp just cam and intake is pretty good. I wonder how much more u could get from head work(530-550fwhp??) Or did they not leave much on the table for head porting with the gen v
I picked up a low mileage L83 with low compression on #4 cylinder. I am hoping it's a DOD concern . The stage 2 camshaft seems like a good choice. Should I limit the VVT or leave it as is . I also got questions about transmission options Right now it's got 2004r 2000 stall speed 10 bolt differential 305 gears . Lots of questions. As to what's the best way to get it all together And will it work. 1964 chevelle SS
If you swap to a 6l90e you will thank me! You can put forged pistons and forced induction on the engine and the 6l90e will take it stock. Of course I would install a stall converter to match the weight of whatever vehicle the engine is in.
done any LT1/6.2 stuff think the biggermotor can hit 600+ na easy, I just got my 2021 Camaro and I'm itching for more power already, flycutting pistons seems like a lot of hassle, I know if I'm opening my motor its getting pistons and rods at least!
@@richardholdener1727 Cant wait! I also acquired a 2016 Z06 supercharger, I know you love forced induction testing! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise!
I just want to get 400 bhp out of a 2011 5.3 in a 2011 Colorado on the cheap using existing parts if possible making it more efficient (better fuel economy) and possibly cai, headers, tune, and possibly porting and maybe shaving the heads for more compression and a tune and possibly a cam????
@@richardholdener1727 thanks! Can you suggest one? And so playing with the heads with porting and milling isn’t cost effective? I’m amazed that the bigger trucks like my current 2018 6.2 with just minimal mods gets 26mpg @ 65mph while the smaller trucks with a v8 struggle to get 18mpg which tells me they are not as efficient. I’d consider putting a gear vendors unit on it with the 4l60 if it would help performance and fuel economy.
How has your project progressed? Very difficult for an average guy to swap one of these newer technical engines in an older vehicle. I suppose would be best to do a stand alone and use the 6l90e and control it with the stand alone as well. Any way you look at it the electronics alone will cost over 2 grand! Gotta pay to play...that's what they say.
I was looking at aftermarket ported l83 heads and ported 243 heads and the cfm rating seem to be very similar. Actually GPIs ported l83 is just a hair under texas speeds cfm for 243 stage 1 head i know they do there testing differently but maybe you can cover some of that.
@@bturner-jw8dz oh yeah for sure i was just wondering the difference in CFM from ported l83 and 243 heads because they seem to be the same, as if l83 heads dont respond as well to porting as 243s.
@@texasstreettunes1310 they respond well to porting but not as big of a gain because you start with a better head.. intake side at least stock to stock. Ex needs love with ALL LT EX PORTS
@@vortecturbo I kinda figured at the time i checked and no one had flow data from the same company but it seems the older LS heads are still just as good (in terms of flow) when both ported.
I have a 2016 ltz dropped a dod lifter prime time to do a dod delete and cam, what would you recommend wanna increase overall power while maintaining stock torque converter
@@richardholdener1727 Is there any chance you could put something together for a video. L87 w whipple Btr gen v 220 I already did contact them they put Together a complete package with that cam but I would love to see it run LOL I sent you a real long message on Facebook including their quote.
Let me start off by saying I am definitely a Chevy Fan. but I respect all makes right now rocking Ford gen 3 Coyote can go well over 500 hp with less work and less displacement
@@richardholdener1727 so going with a stage 2 or 3 cam I don't have to worry about doing anything to the Pistons doing a DOD delete and an intake change I should be all right and have a little extra fun providing I keep an extra set of tires with me thank you Richard I appreciate your content have a blessed day be safe
With the DI vacuum and scavenging are not required. Just flow and cylinder filling camshafts respond differently. I been running one for 2 years now in a 95 c1500 has been great
@@richardholdener1727 For real question ? when you say reflected waves are you saying intake and exhaust pulsations ? Or meaning the rate at which the air speeds up and slows down ? I like to ask questions lol or is this different than I’m thinking???
I am pretty sure you need that vacuum pump on the street. If not you're going to get a lof of build up on the back of the valves. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I have seen so many trucks dod fail and cost to fix it is crazy . 479 hp translate to 379 hp wheel or so not bad I would like to see one of these engine get dynoed like your van did to know how much loss between engine dyno and wheel dyno
I remember I saw these heads at LS fest and it dwarfed the cathedral and even square port heads, just a matter of time gen 5 takes over LT the world ? Lol
big boy ls3/ls7 heads are doing 230+cfm by ..300", 300cfm by .400" and 340 or so by .500". Peak flow of 360 to 420 cfm. My intro on the LT show numbers a ls3 can beat but recently someone showed me otherwise.
I would bet that with a BERY mild port job and moving to a slightly bigger intake valve the l83 head would outflow the best ls head. A head to head ls to lt head shoot out for Richard! I'd watch that!!!
I was leaving work but I guess ill sit in the parking lot instead 🤣
I just watch while I drive. Is that dangerous?
Me too lol
@@GreatLakesLogger not if you prop yr phone on the windshield lol
I do this shit to
As a proud owner of a 1500 4x4 with 120k im glad you have so much infotmation on them
One of my fave channels. Given me a ton of knowledge to do my 5.3 build.
Finally some Gen V testing! I have one in the garage, apart at the moment.
I do too. Tryna make bout 600 hp. L86
@@Hehakaa what are you looking to do?
Keep this series coming sir! Would love to see a video on the piston "notching" for the stage 4 camshaft!
I would say definitely on the stall converter speed. most of these 5.3's are going to be in trucks. Also, it greatly helps in drivability.
Just found your channel and found it very informative. I have a 2019.5 silverado RST 5.3L 4x4 with 2" leveling kit, wide stance, and more less a wind tunnel disaster. I have been looking for a tow setup video. Last yr we pulled a 4500lb camper through the hills and several times I found that I was running 4800 rpm's (normal is 1900 @ 70mph empty) for an extended time. This truck is my daily driver so I don't need anything radical but a little more low end power would be fun. Hoping to find a DIY setup. Thanks, if you have a chance to make us truck owners a tow/haul improvement video.
Ive been holding off on modifying my 15 sierra till you did some more l83 videos. Cant wait to see whats next
I love this engine. Mine is currently at 197,000 miles with 5200 hours on the original motor and everything. Finally put longtubes on her at 190k and tuned. This motor loves e85 too 😂
E85 makes them motors move
Did your truck come factory with E?
@@bobbybarraza8472 yes, l83
2014 single cab 5.3 4x4, BTR Stage 2, LT4 HPFP and Injectors, LS7 lifters, 6.2 Intake and TB, Longtubes and a dumped super 10. Truck absolutely scoots. Chirps in third with 22s and a 3.42 rear end which is wild to me lmao
Did you change the low side pump?
thanks Richard, excited to see more gen V content
Thanks Richard, man that compression with direct injection is the cats meow. Can’t wait to see more testing.
Some L83 luv! I've got one in my 2018 GMC Sierra 1500. Really like the engine.
I have 125,000 trouble-free miles and I beat on it!!!
I'll watch them all..you the man
You should test the LT2 intake manifold and 95mm tb in place of that msd intake manifold. The MSD manifold is stupid expensive and at that point, boost with a Holley high ram is more desirable.
Best of both worlds: LY6 VVT block with L83 heads, injector-style intake, and appropriate LT-swap cam. Used L83 heads are surprisingly cheap.
why put the l83 heads on an LY6 block-very expensive route
For a pushrod 2V motor. this is honestly very impressive.
You’re telling me man! I was so shocked when I got my mine and found out how quick that big B scooted being a stock 3rd row seating Yukon lol
The heads are phenomenal
Long live the pushrod V8
I have a 2015 silverado with the 5.3L 4x4, with the stage 3 or 4 how much worse is the fuel economy?
Hey Richard. Love these experiments you do for the gen 5 lt1. I have a btr stage 2 cam, msd manifold and Landspeed stage 3 heads that are milled and MR James Short did my tuning and i couldn't be happier. Great guy who knows his stuff. Richard keep up the good work and these test you run.
Very cool! James is very good at his job!
How has the trans held up 2 years after??? That’s the only thing I’m worried about lol
Yes yes yes man I’ve been waiting for you to get to genV stuff I love it
I talked to a tuner who wasn’t sure of himself. Typically you’ll know! If you can’t locate a proper tuner best just go with a mild cam. These can take all day to tune I’ve been told.
this was impressive but due to the need of cutting the pistons for clearance... I would rather see the results of the stage 3 cam tested this way. please keep testing the LT series. loving the info on them.
take a peak at the stage 1-4 cam test vid that just posted
You must never... and I mean NEVER sleep! 😂 thanks Richard. Seriously considering an LT swap over and LS swap now.
Love the content. I’d like to keep my gen V l83 around since it’s a 2016 gmc Sierra Denali with the dreaded afm. What is the best kit with the most reliable setup with a little more power but again more reliable.
Do you flow ported heads or just hog them out and call it good? I'd like to see some videos on head comparisons
Thank You been waiting for this
Can also try lt5 cam on a l83
Can you do a Video on the power you get from swapping 6.2 heads to a 5.3 Gen 5 L83 and Manifold 6.2 to a 5.3 as well?
Dang. I'll be happy with a stock, e85 optimal tune l83 with the afm delete. It'll be all I need!
Its a bit expensive to play with some of the newer stuff, but they make really efficient power.
A lot*
Its a great time to be a Gear Head
It’s not expensive.. if you want to make the power these engines make you would have to spend more on the older engines. End of day they are cheaper. You can get a 385 hp 6.0 for $1900 and slap it on a car and call it a day. For you to get 385 hp from a sbc 350 you’re looking at $500 for the block $2000 for a good set of heads. $800 for the complete cam kit and $400 for an intake. You ended up paying more to make same power with sbc.
@@Miguelspl150 Not always true. I can source complete small blocks for much cheaper than that price but at the same time, I can source a 6.0 for about the same price. You cant get a 6.0 running in a car nearly as cheap as a carbed, mechanical pumped sbc. The cost of computer components, ignition, and tuning makes for less than an affordable swap. Meanwhile, I had a 350 with a mild cam running in a Berlinetta with a couple of wires and hand tools.
@@Miguelspl150 my point was control and integration to transmissions and vehicle canbus etc
When will you put a turbo on the new gen v stuff? I got an lt1 6.2 im planning on pushing to 1000.
Now I'm tempted to pull the turbo L59 (gen 3.5 5.3) out of my fox and put one of these in. I need to drop weight off of the nose since I find myself using it for autocross. Similar power, lighter weight, less heat. I've heard something about the Gen V 5.3 cranks not being machined for a pilot bushing or something. I'd need to solve that issue before I commit. I'm on Holley Terminator X so I'd just need to upgrade to the new model that runs the Gen V.
I would expect engine for engine this would make more power and weigh at leastn100 lbs less.
About to build one of these myself. Wondering what the limits of the stock cast crank is. Would be nice if GM would have put a forged unit in like they did the 6.2 *lt4?). You running a turbo 400 with a stall?
I bet in the fox body it scoots!
Sir, I love what you share. Have you done a test with a Cam Motion Titan 3 in a 6.2 LT1?
no sir
I want to do a L 83 swap with the port injection adapters. Can I use GEN 3 wiring harness
I would like to see a comparison between the stock gen5 and a modified gen3 or 4 that makes about the same peak power so that we can see the difference in torque and power underneath the curve.
I have that-stock vs stock and 500+ v 500+ hp-might come next
@@richardholdener1727 ok cool. I must've missed that one
Your the best Richard, love the videos!!!!!!!!
I swapped a L83 and 6L80 in my third gen camaro Texas speed stage 3 cam should be completed in a few weeks
Trying to get that stage 4 done asap
@@subz3ro43 I just learned stage 4 cam requires shaving of the piston to valve clearance better look into it before getting those rpm’s up
@@J2A61 I did think it's the only way to get to 500hp
@@subz3ro43 boost will get you there for sure.... bolt on a zl1 blower it will make 500 with a stage 2 cam or a stage 1 DoD delete cam
@@J2A61 wow
My swap is so nice I just broke the 6L80e at the track last weekend… it runs 13.0 all night back to back on 22” wheels!!!
Time for a 6l90e! Not a lot more expensive but man the torque! capacity Ithink it is around 2" longer so may necessitate a drive shaft swap. Do a stall converter at the same time and I would bet you pull a half a second off your 1/4 mile time.
You guys should do a build with gen 4 rods and pistons in a gen v I have a block im building and I know one other person with a l86 putting summit pro ls rod and pistons in it stock heads stock direct injectors with hold downs running port injection and e85 my buddies running a TExas speed BFD cam and everything clears but no one I know has videos about it
Love your channel! Been watching it none stop!
I'm looking to put a better cam in my 2004 gmc sierra. LM7 5.3. What would be a good stage one kit? My truck is all stock. I wanted to change lifters too.
truck cam
A cam designed/spec'd by David Vizard with intake/exhaust specs at 194-200 @ .050 lift on 108 LSA. David Vizard's expertise is worth looking into because he says to give the engine what it wants...Not what you think it wants.
Hi Richard, My name is Shreyvon and I have a technical question for you Sir. I’ve got a mild L83 build going and I was hoping to get your opinion on possible end result power gains. So far I’ve got a LT1 camshaft, LS3 lifters and trays to get rid of DOD/AFM, LT2 intake manifold and throttle body, LT4 injectors & pump, remote water pump hookups, and other supporting mods. My serpentine belt is only turning the alternator and that’s it. I’ve got an electric motor for the power steering and like I said before hookups for an electric water pump. My plan is to run E85 and drop this engine into 2,700lbs T56 car that I have waiting for it.
mid to high 400s
@richardholdener1727 ...what are you guys doing about vacuum? I know that because of direct injection, GM installed a vacuum pump on these engines. I would assume we would not want to remove that for a car run daily on the streets. I pity anyone that does that for any length of time for the amount of garbage that will build up on the back of the valves. Maybe an electric vacuum pump is available.
Man i was so excited about this engine that i immediately clicked on their link to find it so i could but it, but unfortunately they want close to 5k for this engine with no warranty at all😞 It's listed 'as is no warranty". That sucks because I'm trying to find a good powerful 5.3l engine to replace the one in my Yukon XL and i thought that I'd found the perfect set-up but the "as is" thing killed it😂
What are you recommendations for a 2014 GMC Sierra with a 5.3. Is it worth purchasing when it has 143,000 miles on the truck? Truck is still in really clean shape. Engine is really clean. Want to get rid of the AFM bs.
Transmission will be your issue
I was told for my 5.3 just put 6.2 heads and the 6.2 intake manifold and a comp cam stage 2. And i would 100hp. Great videos let me know thanks
THE 6.2L HEADS WON'T WORK ON YOUR (SMALL BORE) 5.3L
@@richardholdener1727 thanks
Where's the LT2 intake?
I have a 2014 Chevy Silverado Z71 5.3 LT. Just put rebuilt transmission in. Failed due to hot 🔥 thermostat on it. I have since installed a cooler thermostat on the rebuilt one. I'm looking at installing a stage 2 BTR cam kit. At what stage do I change converter. Thnx. Love your channel
see how you feel about the stage 2 with the stock converter
@@richardholdener1727 ok will do thnx.
I'm looking at doin a diablosport predator platinum 2. Once I tune the truck and to take it to the shop. When I return it back to stock will they dealership see its been tuned. I still have a little warranty left
These motors love e85
Can you do some testing on the new LT1. Compare stock intake vs. MSD vs. LT2 intake
please watch the l83 and lt1 intake test video-BTR didn't test the LS2 yet, but did run the L86, LT1 and MSD
we need more information on the l83 im thinking of doing a 383 Stroker to maximize power
Stage 3 cam? Duration seem too low for a stage 3 cam. Is that cam phaser the same as 4th gen cam phaser? Because it looks alot like the one I took out from my car and replaced it with a compcam one.
How much power were you getting from varying the cam with the BTR cam? Was this all stock ECU tuning? This would be really attractive with a Holley. Supposedly those blocks are really tough, going to be VERY interested to see this run forced induction. Something with port injection on top of stockish sized DI maybe? These are DI right? Did you try changing phase of the injection at all? I believe on the DI it can be worth more than on a port injected LS? Also, REALLY enjoyed your chat with Sloppy - it was an awesome podcast!
thnx-James Short did try injector phasing and changing cam timing
I'd be interested to see how the LT2 manifold compares to the the L83/L86/LT1/MSD manifolds.
From what I’ve heard lt2 is less torque and more top end
Wow....500hp on natural aspirated!!!! Great.... Hope there a boosted with twin turbo that can make 700HP!
For the LS1 motor with a centrifugal supercharger what intake manifold would Complement it
ls6, tbss or fast all work well
I thought the BTR DOD delete cams also locked out the variable cam timing. Do some of theor cams do this and not all of them (for the l83) or am I misunderstanding what their cams are doing? Thanks
They have L83 cams that are VVT (no DOD) with limiters and some that are locked out
So with the stage 3 is it worth the money to swap intake as well? Doing budget swap with L83 into 05 RX8. Have basically new bone stock L83 w/ C6. Would like to bump a little prior to plugging it. Will definitely get the stage 3, but should I get the intake or no?
the msd will help as shown, but I will put up the L83 vs L86 intakes with the different cams
I would love to put that engine combo in a 3rd gen f-body and go autocross racing!
100% agreed! I have a 92 camaro rs with lots of UMI parts, konis, ls1 brake upgrade, upgraded 3.73 rear, built 700r4, and a 98 350vortec pumping out 430whp. Fun car, but it would be a much superior car with an upgraded L83 with 500hp!
Looking at putting it in a 75 Vega.
I know this is an older video, but do you have any insight into throttle hang on Gen 5 motors, especially in front of manual transmissions? My L83 will not drop to idle when I depress the clutch.
tune problem?
For the same cost or less, you could just boost your l83 with a kit from on3 and make 200+ hp gains with stock drivability.
Have you seen Eric wiengarter video about bore size affecting head flow? The guy definitely knows his cylinder heads and bigger bore seemed to help flow
it does help flow
Supercharger at 5 psi?
Will Diablo chip add horsepower?
510fwhp just cam and intake is pretty good. I wonder how much more u could get from head work(530-550fwhp??) Or did they not leave much on the table for head porting with the gen v
I think there's room for a bigger intake valve. Stock valve is 49mm, if I'm remembering correctly. Should be able to fit a 50.8mm valve in.
Heads are pretty dang good. I bet cleaning them up will do what you are hoping for. Of course throwing some boost on it is never a bad idea!
I picked up a low mileage L83 with low compression on #4 cylinder. I am hoping it's a DOD concern . The stage 2 camshaft seems like a good choice. Should I limit the VVT or leave it as is . I also got questions about transmission options Right now it's got 2004r 2000 stall speed 10 bolt differential 305 gears . Lots of questions. As to what's the best way to get it all together
And will it work. 1964 chevelle SS
talk to btr
If you swap to a 6l90e you will thank me! You can put forged pistons and forced induction on the engine and the 6l90e will take it stock. Of course I would install a stall converter to match the weight of whatever vehicle the engine is in.
done any LT1/6.2 stuff think the biggermotor can hit 600+ na easy, I just got my 2021 Camaro and I'm itching for more power already, flycutting pistons seems like a lot of hassle, I know if I'm opening my motor its getting pistons and rods at least!
yes-that is coming
A friend of mine made over 600 wheel NA. 2017 1LE. Ported heads, cam, MSD intake, E85.
@@s2upid wonder how that holds up on stock internals since there's no boost maybe it can take it
Do you have to make any modifications to the fuel delivery system with the new cam or will the stock injectors still be sufficient?
JUST TUNING
Mine rocks!! 125,000 hard trouble free miles!!!
Is there a dynamic video for this combination?
PLEASE!!! Do the dodge 4.7
How much different would you expect the results will be with the L86? Curious as I have one waiting to be installed in a Jeep!
l86 makes big power-these tests are coming too
@@richardholdener1727 Cant wait! I also acquired a 2016 Z06 supercharger, I know you love forced induction testing! Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge and expertise!
I just want to get 400 bhp out of a 2011 5.3 in a 2011 Colorado on the cheap using existing parts if possible making it more efficient (better fuel economy) and possibly cai, headers, tune, and possibly porting and maybe shaving the heads for more compression and a tune and possibly a cam????
small cam and springs will help power a lot, headers and tune can help mpg
@@richardholdener1727 thanks! Can you suggest one? And so playing with the heads with porting and milling isn’t cost effective?
I’m amazed that the bigger trucks like my current 2018 6.2 with just minimal mods gets 26mpg @ 65mph while the smaller trucks with a v8 struggle to get 18mpg which tells me they are not as efficient. I’d consider putting a gear vendors unit on it with the 4l60 if it would help performance and fuel economy.
What's the biggest you can use without notching the pistons? Stg3?
yes-stage 3
@richardholdner are there any differences between l86/lt1? Heads ? Valves ? Chamber ? Compression ?
I DON'T THINK SO, BUT WILL HAVE TO VERIFY
@richardholdener1727 ...I was thinking the valves are slightly larger.
What u think about upgrading fuel injectors n pump?
NEEDED IF YOU PLAN TO MAKE MORE POWER
All truck injectors the same ? 3rd gen 4th gen 4.8 5.3 6.0 ?
no-they range from 21-25 lbs with flex fuel being 33-36 pounds
we need some more Gen 4 hemi stuff!
You have a link for this specific MSD intake? I have a 16 Silverado 5.3 and I’m not sure I’m finding the right one.
there is only 1 for the LT I believe
L83 makes similar power as the ls1 did on your dyno which is hood with less cubic inches
I have a L83 I’m trying to install in 1970 cutlass is there anyway you can recommend me some one to get a swap kit form
not sure on swap kits
How has your project progressed? Very difficult for an average guy to swap one of these newer technical engines in an older vehicle. I suppose would be best to do a stand alone and use the 6l90e and control it with the stand alone as well. Any way you look at it the electronics alone will cost over 2 grand! Gotta pay to play...that's what they say.
I was looking at aftermarket ported l83 heads and ported 243 heads and the cfm rating seem to be very similar. Actually GPIs ported l83 is just a hair under texas speeds cfm for 243 stage 1 head i know they do there testing differently but maybe you can cover some of that.
L83 can do 1100 whp on stock block, crank, and heads with good pistons, cam, and a turbo
@@bturner-jw8dz oh yeah for sure i was just wondering the difference in CFM from ported l83 and 243 heads because they seem to be the same, as if l83 heads dont respond as well to porting as 243s.
@@texasstreettunes1310 they respond well to porting but not as big of a gain because you start with a better head.. intake side at least stock to stock. Ex needs love with ALL LT EX PORTS
@@vortecturbo I kinda figured at the time i checked and no one had flow data from the same company but it seems the older LS heads are still just as good (in terms of flow) when both ported.
Have you done any tests 383 stroker vs 5.3 LS?
a 383 SBC or 383 LS?
Wow that sound was 🤙🏼
It’s basically a race engine
do a gen V 4.3 Ecotec3
I have a 2016 ltz dropped a dod lifter prime time to do a dod delete and cam, what would you recommend wanna increase overall power while maintaining stock torque converter
ask the guys at BTR
When are you going to put a bigger cam in it? And test it?
He tested the BTR Stage IV cam in this video.
@@andyharman3022 Thanks. I was feeding an elderly lady and talking to her while we were watching the video. I must have missed that part.
@@rhiannonbittle1454 Did she enjoy the vid?
@@HerrPoopschitz yes
Come on-it says cam and intake right in the title!
Btr stage2 afm delete lt2 intake swap? N/A or boost 🤔🤯 and then what kind of boost in my '15 burb what will I be at
I would do the L86 intake
Great video !!
Thanks Bro!!
Another question, what are you using to tune these?!
James Short used Haltech
Right on
Richard, are there pistons that you can buy and just replace instead of notching them or shaving them?
yes
Can you tell me what ones to get?
I have a 2019 Sierra L87 and I just bought the whipple set up. Can you recommend a cam?
ASK BTR ABOUT THEIR GEN V CAMS
@@richardholdener1727 Is there any chance you could put something together for a video. L87 w whipple Btr gen v 220
I already did contact them they put Together a complete package with that cam but I would love to see it run LOL I sent you a real long message on Facebook including their quote.
My name is Bob Patterson
Thank you for your time
Is this the same engine out of a 2016 suburban ?
if you have an L83-this is it
@@richardholdener1727awesome thank you 🎉
How about mods for a daily driver. A camshalf always makes power, what about other things?
on the l83?
Let me start off by saying I am definitely a Chevy Fan. but I respect all makes right now rocking Ford gen 3 Coyote can go well over 500 hp with less work and less displacement
Yeah but you can't compare a 2V engine to a 4V engine. Of course you are going to make more power with less displacement but more airflow and RPM.
@@button-puncher I agree with what your saying we have to compare the engines
How much will this apply to a 2014 Silverado with direct injection and variable valve timing
all of it applies
@@richardholdener1727 so going with a stage 2 or 3 cam I don't have to worry about doing anything to the Pistons doing a DOD delete and an intake change I should be all right and have a little extra fun providing I keep an extra set of tires with me thank you Richard I appreciate your content have a blessed day be safe
Yukon 5.3 v8 2008 with zr1 cam What would you installing cold air intake +long tube headers or short tube headers?
Thanks a lot uncle
long
With the DI vacuum and scavenging are not required. Just flow and cylinder filling camshafts respond differently. I been running one for 2 years now in a 95 c1500 has been great
reflected waves (intake and exhaust) are still beneficial regardless of DI
@@richardholdener1727 For real question ? when you say reflected waves are you saying intake and exhaust pulsations ? Or meaning the rate at which the air speeds up and slows down ? I like to ask questions lol or is this different than I’m thinking???
I am pretty sure you need that vacuum pump on the street. If not you're going to get a lof of build up on the back of the valves. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I have seen so many trucks dod fail and cost to fix it is crazy . 479 hp translate to 379 hp wheel or so not bad I would like to see one of these engine get dynoed like your van did to know how much loss between engine dyno and wheel dyno
I remember I saw these heads at LS fest and it dwarfed the cathedral and even square port heads, just a matter of time gen 5 takes over LT the world ? Lol
The gen 5 Lt1 style heads will outflow ls7 heads
you got numbers?
big boy ls3/ls7 heads are doing 230+cfm by ..300", 300cfm by .400" and 340 or so by .500". Peak flow of 360 to 420 cfm.
My intro on the LT show numbers a ls3 can beat but recently someone showed me otherwise.
I would bet that with a BERY mild port job and moving to a slightly bigger intake valve the l83 head would outflow the best ls head. A head to head ls to lt head shoot out for Richard! I'd watch that!!!
What kind of in tank pump does this require
JUST BIG ENOUGH TO FEED THE HIGH PRESSURE PUMP AT THE DESIRED POWER LEVEL
Back in 2015 I put an MSD intake on my truck I went almost 2/10 slower I got mad throw the intake in the trash at the trak
One lucky garbage man.