(Sorry for bad english) Looking at this as a reptile keeper, usually slowly moving creatures with slower metabolism live longer (turtles, larger snakes etc.) but smaller creatures with faster metabolism dont live as long (geckos etc.). Thats why big dragons like red death can live for hundreds of years, unlike terrible terrors which I assume could live around 20. Most reptiles mature at around 1/4 of their lifespan so Toothless is most likely to live to around 80-120yo (given that he was full grown around the 2nd movie and had kids at the end of the 3rd one). Ofc, dragons are fantasy creatures and none of these laws need to matter, Just saying that from factual point of view, Toothless wouldn't outlive Hiccup by that much.
There might only be one slight error in the life span of the smallest dragons. The red night terrors seam to have lived for atleast half a century or more since they knew what to do with the egg of the eruptodon. (Sorry for bad English)
Just the thought of Toothless outliving Hiccup crushes me. I watched them, as a child, grow up together. They're two halves of a whole, and it's hard to imagine one in a world without the other.
I feel like the older Toothless still retains the personality and look that the Toothless we all know and love does. It looks weird to imagine him looking like that, but people (and animals) look different as we age, so it's not completely crazy. Nice vid too
@@turtal2595 Except for the fact that Valka refers to her Bewilderbeast on multiple occasions as a "he". Also, even if hers was the egg's mother, why wouldn't she still have contact with the baby? Even if it grew up and went off on its own, why would she not fly over to visit it and show Hiccup after their reunion?
Everyone in the comments is saying their beliefs and why they think this is wrong/right But putting that all aside, can we just appreciate how much effort went into this? Research Script Background Voiceover Editing Images MULTIPLE drawings with tones of time spent on each one Music +much more This is fricking amazing
for those who are wondering why the tailfin would still be pretty intact: the tailfin is made off toothlesses scales and spit and then torched with his plasma blast. Making it almost identical to real dragon skin, and since night fury skin is fireproof, then the artificial tailfin is fireproof as well, the only thing that would damage it would most likely be another dragon cho chalenges his position as an aplha. But I think the other dragons don't really know its artificial, they'd react to the holder around his tail, but not the fin I'd say.
Doesn't excuse the fact that a mechanical tail with gears and cogs has to withstand 100 years by the sea without breaking down or corroding when it's made from medieval technology. One of the many things that make no sense whatsoever in that disappointing movie
@@MaidikIslarj I have come up with three possible metals/alloys that could be used for Toothless’s tail. Corrosion resistance is when the metal is exposed to saltwater. Heat resistance is good to have considering there’s fire breathing dragons 1st is titanium, It’s a strong metal that is Heat and Corrosion resistant. 2nd is an alloy of aluminum copper and nickel. Its a strong metal and will take a minimal amount of corrosion damage from saltwater and requires very little maintenance. Heat resistance unknown cause it’s an alloy. The last one is unrealistic cost wise. A platinum gold alloy, both of these metals are the best of the best at resisting corrosion and this alloy is the worlds most ware resistant metal. Heat resistance unknown cause it’s an alloy.
If you watch the ending of the last episode of Race to the Edge, it is revealed that the egg of the Bewilderbeast from Berserker Island hatches under Valka's care. Her Bewilderbeast is only a few years old.
No it isn’t. Drago's Bewilderbeast is only a few years old. Valka's is centuries old, and the egg would still be a young hatchling by the second movie, probably not much larger than a human child. Bewilderbeasts are the largest species of dragon we’ve ever seen, and the skeleton of the Titanwing Bewilderbeast hammers this point home hard. Such a large dragon would take decades to reach the size it does in adulthood at the very least, and is probably more likely to around half a century before they reach that size. Drago fed his Ice Tail Pike, which helped it to swiftly grow to its maximum size that it would naturally reach, Valka's has been around for a long time. It’s the same Bewilderbeast we see turn Johann into an ice sculpture.
Not likely. The span of time between the last episode of RTTE and the 2nd movie is way to short. Hiccup was only 19 in the last episode and 20 in th e 2nd film, making it a 1 year gap. There is simply no way for the bewilderbeast to grow to the size it did in just a year
hmm.. anyone ever thought wow what if his tail fin broke? what would happen? when would it happen? i personally think~ soon.. VERY soon i also like to think that if it did break the lightfury would end up having no other choice but to go to berk, maybe she is seen on her way there by "some'one" ;) zephyr could take on the role of taking care of toothless, maybe the generations of vikings might look up to him in a guardian kind of way and their job is to make sure the hidden world is safe= protecting from outside the hidden world and making sure he can fly seeing as he is the dragons alpha and basically needs to be able to do that. you get what im sayin?
I worry that Toothless might not be able to survive for long without Hiccup occasionally coming to visit and do needed repairs on his tail. It's a wonderful thought that Toothless could live on and on for a long time, but even with an army of dragons to care for him, most likely, without his tail and by extension, his flight, Toothless would most likely weaken and die at some point long after Hiccup dies, unless Hiccup can think of a permanent alternative. We never see how sturdy Toothless' current tail is, but unfortunately I doubt it could last a a hundred years without upkeep.
*If you happen to read this comment, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this idea* Fun fact: the first How To Train Your Dragon Movie was set in the year 1010, because in the extras for HTTYD on DVD, in the short skits that tell us what the Viking Olympics were like, the shields that appear at the start of each skit that tells us what the event is, also tells us the year it took place, and the year is 1010, and Hiccup still has his foot in these skits, so Hiccup is still 15 years old (maybe younger) This means that by the time Hiccup and Toothless are both 71 years old, the year will be 1066, so the Vikings and Dragons are literally 56 years away from seeing the Battle of Hastings in the first movie, and Zephyr and Nuffink would be in their 40s and most likely would have had families of their own, so this whole ancient looking Toothless could be an interesting concept to explore if Dreamworks decided to make another story based on that fact (as unlikely as that is to happen) What do you think? Also, awesome artwork btw
I think due to the dragon sizes, night (and light) Furies and other relatives could only live for about as long as a human, so if toothless can survive (which is highly plausible), he can live from 80 to 100 years old, or even older (I'm pretty sure Max would be 110 based on the oldest human today).
I think the maximum for humans is about 125-130 years old. there is a woman who lived 122 years in 1875-1997. if she lived now, this number would most likely reach 130 due to how much medicine has stepped forward since that time. But if we talk about how long a man lives, it will be about 120-125, because a woman on average lives longer than a man by 5%. It means that Light Fury will most likely outlived Toothy for a few years.
I honestly wish they would just use a female Night Fury, that way it could have actually save toothless's species. Edit: I'm talking about a completely different plot for the movie that doesn't have nothing to do with the light fury because of how awful her design is.
@@thethrretheherherg490 I'm talking about toothless with another female Night Fury you dumbass read what people say before acting like you know what the hell you're talkin about
can i just say something, how could valka have lived with the dragon for 20 years when she picked up the belwilderbeast egg at the end of the dragons: race to the edge series. in race to the edge hiccup is estimated between 17 and 19 years of age which makes valkas bewilderbeast 3 to 1 years of age, preferably i would say valkas bewilderbeast is 2. ofcourse this is logically. could dreamworks have messed up the timeline? also hiccup in the second movie sais he has never seen anything like t when shown the bewilderbeast however he comes in contact with one in the last episode of dragons: race to the edge. again could this be a messupo in the how to train your dragon timeline. we simply do not know, but one thing is for sure, i dont think valkas bewilderbeast is old and i dont think she has lived with it for 20 years judging by the events in dragons: race to the edge. since she had the egg at the end of dragons: race to the edge, where would she have put that egg other than where she is living. she does not describe meeting it as a youth, but that is simply because the second movie came out before dragons:race to the edge which the first season was released back in 2015. this raises many questions but personally i think the bewilderbeast is a few years of age as every bit of evidence leads to that conclusion, unless valka put the bewilderbeast egg somewhere else and the bewilderbeast she is with is infact ancient. but then this raises the question "where did she take the bewilderbeast egg?" and is it wild?, is it dragos? we simply do not know but as i said this raises many questions or may i say ""this changes everything"
Julya Flyer yes that is true but you would think they would try to make it make sense in the movies, for instance if they took out the bewilderbeast in race to the edge this conversation would not be happening and the transition between race to the edge and the second movie would make much more sense
For Valka’s bewilderbeast’s age, if anyone remembers the last episode of dragons edge, It showed a scene of Valka with the bewilderbeast egg, meaning her bewilderbeast is about 6 years old.
how does that make sense ;-;. HIccup is recorded to be around 18-19 in RTTE and in HTTYD 2 he's 20. Last i checked 18+6 or even 19+6 doesnt equal to 20. That would mean the time gap between Valka taking the egg (presuming its not long after Atali left the egg for Valka) is around 1-2 years. Besides Valka has stayed with that particular Bewilderbeast for 20 years. She did say that Cloudjumper took her to the dragon nest we saw in the 2nd movie. So no, no way in hell is the Bewilderbeast valka stayed with 6 years
5:42 The age of GRRM dragons is a bit tricky actually,for one thing the show aged them up faster than the books did,for example when Danny takes the city of Meereen in the books the dragons are still about the same size as we saw them in season 3,however in the show they where larger by that point. Another thing to consider is the environmental factors,dragons that can roam free in volcanic regions and a plentiful source of prey and magic is around will let them live longer and reach large sizes faster than dragons that don't have lives like this,example the dragons locked in the DragonPit of KingsLanding where smaller than those at DragonStone where they could also mostly roam free and made there nests around the islands volcano, and in a similar way the great dragons of old Valyria who could grow larger than the mighty Balerion himself. I will say tho that I really like your take on elder Toothless especially all the details like his fin made by Hiccup having started to be torn and slightly smaller than his other fin,but one thing I noticed is that the spots are stripes he had in the first movie and all the tv shows seem to vanish by the second and third movie, I wonder if it's like a cugar or lion who are born spotted but loose the spots as they age.
O they are totaly different trust me. The only similar things about them is that they can breath fire,fly(with some exceptions in HTTYD) and are scaly.
Valka’s bewilderbeast is only around 5 years old. Hiccup found its egg near the end of Race to the Edge, and then he leaves and we see Valka in her mask, taking it.
I don’t know if you guys know this but the shrieking sound effect of the night fury diving down is based off of the luftwaffe or spitfire fighter planes diving around the beaches and shooting at the ground troops in ww2. Just thought you guys might want to know.
In the last episodes of the “Dragons Race to the Edge,” Volka had received the Bewilderbeast’s egg from the female dragon fliers, which means that the bewilderbeast was in fact less than a year old when he appeared to the public based on the time line between the show and the 2nd movie.
The Bewilder Beast was around 2 years old. Beacuse, in Race to the Edge, we saw those women with razorwhip babies (I forgot their name ;-;) giving the bewilderbeast egg to Valka. At that time, Hiccup was around 18, 2 years later he meets his mother. What I don't like about the movies is te fact that they don't make any connection to the series. I expected to se Mala, Dagur or at least Heather in HTTYD the hidden world. Or AT LEAST in the homecoming. But no, we didn't. I miss Mala, Dagur, Heather, The Skrill, The Flightmare, the razorwhip women (yes this is how I call them) Torch and the rest of 'em. I wanted some refernces to the tv series too. And, I don't say it wasn't cute, it was awsome, buuut....The Homecoming was something like, to get rid of us. We didn't see Valka or Eret, it was very short and more like, nothing special. I'm sorry, I know most of you wom't agree, but it's true...
I agree with u i think they should have made dragons race to the edge before the second movie so then they would have added the other characters and dragons to the second movie then it would make sense. In my opinion, i think the second movie was rushed. Great, but rushed.
'increased amount of facial nubs, larger wings and tail, as well as his overall more muscular build are all indicators of age' also httyd3 toothless: tiny fairy wings
About the bewilderbeast age, in the shows it says that HE (keep he in mind) is an egg, and the queen of dragons is nearby and at the very end of race to the edge it quotes along this lines “we gave the egg to the wing maidens ( is that what their called?) who know someone who knows a safe place for the egg” and it shows Valka with her mask taking the egg away, so that’s possible that the king of dragons is not to old
I have an awesome idea for a story, what if the hidden world was in the Bermuda triangle and a certain black dragon with green eyes has been shooting down planes and boats that come to close to the hidden world. One day a 20-year-old boy survives and stumbles upon toothless who is now in his 900 and all the other types of Furies that him and the light fury have had.
Dang, that's good! I really enjoy how you can see the age on Toothless in the face, but it's still incredibly recognizable! Those large back spikes are also something very impressive. It adds a bit to the character, and makes him look much tougher, and even a bit more majestic. He just has that look of wisdom, y'know?
not to mention that they change in color, because toothless’s eye color and skin color changed pretty quickly, eyes being turquoise to a bright forest green, and his skin being navy to black.
One thing I realized is that, if you take the tv shows into consideration, Hiccup and Toothless are already war veterans by the time of the second movie. I remember when the second movie came out and I hadn't seen it yet, we went to McDonald's one day and I got a How to Train Your Dragon Happy Meal and there was a picture of Hiccup and Toothless on the box and I noticed that he had a bunch of very subtle scratches or scars on his body and I think it's kinda cool how the movie established that he and Hiccup had seen plenty of action since the lastovie before that story was even told
In the last episode of Dragons: Race To The Edge, it shows Valka receiving the egg of the "King of Dragons" AKA from the Beewilderbeest that lives under Beeserker island. This seems to indicate that Valka grew up the dragon to what we see in the movie about 2-3 years later. However, it is noted that Drago will find another King of Dragons, so it is unsure whether he too gets an egg or captures a wild one. Though I point it out, I still find it incredibly hard to believe Valka's Beewilderbeest is that young on the account of its size as well as the ice castle it has created which seems to have a long lived community of dragons with multiple generations staying there. I would also find that the amount of food needed to grow something that large from an egg in such a small amount of time is ludicrous. Seriously, how would it feed itself so much?
GUYS the bewilder beast is actually really young!!!!! If u watch dragons race to the edge at the end of the series hiccup finds the king of dragons egg (bewilder beast) and the wing maidens knew someone who knew hiccups mom, so valka has had the bewilder beast for a few years! :D
if you think, i have something to say. okay so. the httyd show on Netflix with normal looking characters without any young or old, anyways, i remember how in maybe the last episode at the end, you can clearly see Valka taking a white egg with spikes kind of looking like a bewilderbeast, my theory is that cloudjumper didnt take her to the nest, i think cloudjumper took her to a hidden cave full with ice where the last white bewilderbeast, A mother was in, but im pretty sure , the other bewilderbeast has passed since no other proof of another but drago's and valka's. Then this must mean that Valka/hiccup's mother raised the bewilderbeast with cloudjumper alone, then gathering more dragons, taking a few years for this dragon to grow, when you said in game of thrones the dragons can grow to an adult size in a few years, maybe the bewilderbeast has that feature as well.
here are my thoughts on encountering an ancient night fury its aged hide is tougher than steel no steel weapon can hurt him no weapon can penetrate its thick aged hide it fires is as hot as being too close to the sun and it's just as bright as the moonlit, it has sabor tooth teeth and he was bigger than a stormcutter dragon and can breath 10 types of fire and is grouchy and grumpy and really funny I love you toothless
Okay so just mentioning we kinda get a confirmation on age of the Bewilderbeast in Httyd: Race to the Edge, as Valka gets it's egg at the end of the series, and I'd guess the time of the show is between the first and second movies. So it cannot have been 20 years, so I think it's a Game of Thrones age type here.
I think that night fiurrys can live op to 150 yrs. But smoler dragons like the hobbolgrunt would live for 20 yrs and be more like mice so they try to breed.
Actually, in the third movie we all know he is 21 but in homecoming Hiccup says that it was 10 years ago when he released Toothless so he must have been 31 in homecoming
The bewilderbeast is around 20 years old, from race to the edge some people tell hiccup that they have a good friend to take care of the bewilderbeast egg. The ending part of the series being Valka taking the egg in the night, this show was basically confirmed that it was the story of httyd 1 to the second movie. Because also at the end Drago bludvist tells someone to get him a another bewilderbeast egg, because they failed at getting the other bewilderbeast egg.
Because of toothless’s handicap, I doubt he would manage to survive that long in the wild without humans to take care of his artificial tail. While he has the capability, toothless will be unable to survive for very long due to this unfortunate handicap.
Actually, the Bewilderbeast is a few years old in the 2nd movie because in the Netflix series, Race to the Edge, in the final episodes, Hiccup finds a bewilderbeast with an egg. The egg is then given to Valka. And, dragons of the edge is around the same time as Httyd 2, because we meet Drago in the last episode. So, yeah.
Yeah, my theory is the Bewilderbeast we see in the 2nd movie isn't the Bewilderbeast Valka had lived with for 20 years. The previous Bewilderbeast probably died, its lifespan complete, and the Bewilderbeast we see, which is roughly the same size as Drago's :( , is it's successor. Makes it all the more sad for it's death and the servitude of Drago's Bewilderbeast, though. It means they were only a year or two old. And we know it's plausible, because we know from RTTE and DoB that dragons can grow to almost full size in a matter of months.
@@robertcurley8406 nah alpha mode is just a thing dragons can do when they challenge the old leader. Like assuming, (by what we saw from the snoggletog short) Dart would likely take over of toothless's 3 cubbies that is if he didnt have more nightlights with light fury after that. but mabey thousand year toothy is his titan wing form. hes surely larger and likely more powerful
There’s a setup in race to the edge of hickup and toothless saving a bewilder East egg that end up with his mom so she has to have had it from at a young age
he is very beautiful seeing you draw him on the net was like a little kid watching a magic show and seeing the real magic and wonder in it. i love dragons so much and toothless is one dragon that is very dear to my heart. thank you for giving me a glimps of him as the true elder king of dragons.
(Note:I’m not trying to piss off any how to train your dragon fans Plus since The how to train your dragon dragons are based off of real animals I was stating scientific fact so no need to bash me in the reply’s I’m just correcting sliverwillowwing for giving the wrong information since she based toothess’s lifespan off of mythical magical movie/tv show dragons once again I’m not trying to piss off any httyd fans) I don’t think a night fury like toothless could live for a thousand years since the dragons of the how to train your dragon series are based more on real animals than magical beings or creatures so I think he’d live for more than a hundred years than a thousand years the only reason I’m saying it is because toothless ain’t the size of a bigger dragon like the forever wing the red death or the bewilderbeast which could live for thousands of years That’s just like saying an elephant can live for hundreds of years like a massive sauropod like a brachiosaurus the elephants lifespan is seventy in the wild the only reason that paleontologists believe that sauropods could live for hundreds of years is because the larger the animal is the longer the lifespan but elephants can’t live for like say 450 or 200 years like a sauropod Plus you based your evidence off of magical movie dragons instead of the more realistic animalistic aging like the dragons are in this franchise even if reptiles do live for hundreds of years they can’t live for thousands of years they just can’t reptiles can only live for some many decades so your toothless at a thousand years old drawing is inaccurate since it’s most likely toothless would be dead by then I’m only stating this as scientific fact if you based toothless of real reptiles like the dragons are based off from real animals
Last video in the Netflix series showed Valka's bewilderbeast meaning it is not over 20 as The edge was between the 1st and 2nd movie, you could also see Valka taking the egg at the end when the wing people left it :)
"dragons are magical and allows them to live much longer then humanity" the greenland shark (which is basically just a water dragon): can live for 500 years....
5:20 Race to the edge contridicted HTTYD2, since hiccup's mother pretty much said that the alpha was there when she got there (about 20 years) but in Race to the edge ending (which was only a few years before HTTYD2) shows that hiccup's mother took the alpha egg that belonged to the alpha that was in beserker island, just a thing to think about really I guess you could count this as "Dreamworks forgot"
What about valkas cloudjumper? Cloudjumper took her away as a grown adult I think and then lived like 20 years alone with valka until hiccup came. And if I remember right he was in the third movie too, that would make him a really old dragon tho.
Hi i completely agree with you theory i was wondering if you could recommend any art programs as i am starting gcse art and i need something better then windows paint, i really love your drawings and was wondering if you had any tips :) keep up the spectacular work and i hope you stay well and safe.
No Vulkas bewilder beast is only a few years old. Cause in race to the edge Dragos dragon had an egg. They wanted the egg AND the mother, but hiccup took the egg and gave it to the wingmaidens and they gave it to Vulka. So drago went back and took the mother bewilder beast and Vulka raised that one she has now for only a few years. Watch the ending of race to the edge if you disagree
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*i just realized that if he's over 1,000 in the concept art, hiccup would be dead and wouldn't be able to fix his fake tail* this makes me sad ;-;
his tail would somehow regrow
He could have tought his kids how to make a tail fin though!
@@Lily-dq7es they don’t have opposable thumbs
@@scorpiusrexman1017 they meant hiccups kids.
I immediately realized that, and now im very sad,cuz whats Toothless with out Hiccup?The iconic due wouldn't really exist after 1,000 years ;-;
I definitely agree with your theory that Night Furies live for hundreds of years - bigger creatures often have longer lifespans.
but tortuses are small and live for hundreds of years
@@eilidh_artist184 but turtles don't move very much. Things with a slower metabolism live longer
@@eilidh_artist184 X3
spiders live awhile
@@stormywolfhowls Not really, most common house spiders live for only a year
(Sorry for bad english)
Looking at this as a reptile keeper, usually slowly moving creatures with slower metabolism live longer (turtles, larger snakes etc.) but smaller creatures with faster metabolism dont live as long (geckos etc.). Thats why big dragons like red death can live for hundreds of years, unlike terrible terrors which I assume could live around 20. Most reptiles mature at around 1/4 of their lifespan so Toothless is most likely to live to around 80-120yo (given that he was full grown around the 2nd movie and had kids at the end of the 3rd one). Ofc, dragons are fantasy creatures and none of these laws need to matter, Just saying that from factual point of view, Toothless wouldn't outlive Hiccup by that much.
Aggy you said sorry for your bad English but you were grammatically correct the whole time and your wording was spot on.
There might only be one slight error in the life span of the smallest dragons. The red night terrors seam to have lived for atleast half a century or more since they knew what to do with the egg of the eruptodon. (Sorry for bad English)
In the OG storyline hiccup said he will live to be thousands of years old.
@@soaringspirits2267 whiich "OG" storyline are you reffering to? there are multiple.
I agree and keep in mind. the bigger the dragon the longer it can live
I love the expression you gave him, so much wisdom with the slightest hint of sorrow for Hiccup's passing.
;-;
Dude that hit deep
Just the thought of Toothless outliving Hiccup crushes me. I watched them, as a child, grow up together. They're two halves of a whole, and it's hard to imagine one in a world without the other.
Celestial Draconis don’t worry toothless has hiccups descendants to look after him
I feel like the older Toothless still retains the personality and look that the Toothless we all know and love does. It looks weird to imagine him looking like that, but people (and animals) look different as we age, so it's not completely crazy. Nice vid too
The bewilder beast is young because in race to the edge the last part at the very end you see is hiccup’s mom taking the bewilder beast’s egg
She already addressed it, while it could be the egg its most likely the bewilderbeast she had was the one that laid the egg
I know right!
@@turtal2595 umm why is the mother here then it lives on besurker island
Midnight Wolf the one on berserker island is its mother, and im assuming to be around 20 years most likely
@@turtal2595 Except for the fact that Valka refers to her Bewilderbeast on multiple occasions as a "he". Also, even if hers was the egg's mother, why wouldn't she still have contact with the baby? Even if it grew up and went off on its own, why would she not fly over to visit it and show Hiccup after their reunion?
Everyone in the comments is saying their beliefs and why they think this is wrong/right
But putting that all aside, can we just appreciate how much effort went into this?
Research
Script
Background
Voiceover
Editing
Images
MULTIPLE drawings with tones of time spent on each one
Music
+much more
This is fricking amazing
for those who are wondering why the tailfin would still be pretty intact:
the tailfin is made off toothlesses scales and spit and then torched with his plasma blast. Making it almost identical to real dragon skin, and since night fury skin is fireproof, then the artificial tailfin is fireproof as well, the only thing that would damage it would most likely be another dragon cho chalenges his position as an aplha. But I think the other dragons don't really know its artificial, they'd react to the holder around his tail, but not the fin I'd say.
Doesn't excuse the fact that a mechanical tail with gears and cogs has to withstand 100 years by the sea without breaking down or corroding when it's made from medieval technology.
One of the many things that make no sense whatsoever in that disappointing movie
@@MaidikIslarj Probably would be made out of a tough metal coated in rust-resistant paint or something
@@MaidikIslarj talkin trash bout httyd?b!tches
@@MaidikIslarj I have come up with three possible metals/alloys that could be used for Toothless’s tail.
Corrosion resistance is when the metal is exposed to saltwater.
Heat resistance is good to have considering there’s fire breathing dragons
1st is titanium, It’s a strong metal that is Heat and Corrosion resistant.
2nd is an alloy of aluminum copper and nickel. Its a strong metal and will take a minimal amount of corrosion damage from saltwater and requires very little maintenance. Heat resistance unknown cause it’s an alloy.
The last one is unrealistic cost wise. A platinum gold alloy, both of these metals are the best of the best at resisting corrosion and this alloy is the worlds most ware resistant metal. Heat resistance
unknown cause it’s an alloy.
Yay shes back, i hope ur family is ok silver! Best wishes and stay healthy everyone
If you watch the ending of the last episode of Race to the Edge, it is revealed that the egg of the Bewilderbeast from Berserker Island hatches under Valka's care. Her Bewilderbeast is only a few years old.
No it isn’t. Drago's Bewilderbeast is only a few years old. Valka's is centuries old, and the egg would still be a young hatchling by the second movie, probably not much larger than a human child. Bewilderbeasts are the largest species of dragon we’ve ever seen, and the skeleton of the Titanwing Bewilderbeast hammers this point home hard. Such a large dragon would take decades to reach the size it does in adulthood at the very least, and is probably more likely to around half a century before they reach that size. Drago fed his Ice Tail Pike, which helped it to swiftly grow to its maximum size that it would naturally reach, Valka's has been around for a long time. It’s the same Bewilderbeast we see turn Johann into an ice sculpture.
Not likely. The span of time between the last episode of RTTE and the 2nd movie is way to short. Hiccup was only 19 in the last episode and 20 in th e 2nd film, making it a 1 year gap. There is simply no way for the bewilderbeast to grow to the size it did in just a year
The egg was probably laid by her bewilder beast because no way it grows that fast
that ancient Toothless is absolutely amazing! you’re so talented! and it’s great that you’re back :)
hmm.. anyone ever thought wow what if his tail fin broke?
what would happen?
when would it happen?
i personally think~
soon.. VERY soon
i also like to think that if it did break the lightfury would end up having no other choice but to go to berk, maybe she is seen on her way there by "some'one" ;)
zephyr could take on the role of taking care of toothless, maybe the generations of vikings might look up to him in a guardian kind of way and their job is to make sure the hidden world is safe= protecting from outside the hidden world and making sure he can fly seeing as he is the dragons alpha and basically needs to be able to do that. you get what im sayin?
A new moVie!
Or idk, the lightfury might as well feed toothless instead by hunting for him too. The lightfury was never fond of humans
Zephyr is a girl. Nuffink was the boy child of hiccup and Astrid
@Star Shadows chill
Ye
I worry that Toothless might not be able to survive for long without Hiccup occasionally coming to visit and do needed repairs on his tail. It's a wonderful thought that Toothless could live on and on for a long time, but even with an army of dragons to care for him, most likely, without his tail and by extension, his flight, Toothless would most likely weaken and die at some point long after Hiccup dies, unless Hiccup can think of a permanent alternative. We never see how sturdy Toothless' current tail is, but unfortunately I doubt it could last a a hundred years without upkeep.
*If you happen to read this comment, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this idea*
Fun fact: the first How To Train Your Dragon Movie was set in the year 1010, because in the extras for HTTYD on DVD, in the short skits that tell us what the Viking Olympics were like, the shields that appear at the start of each skit that tells us what the event is, also tells us the year it took place, and the year is 1010, and Hiccup still has his foot in these skits, so Hiccup is still 15 years old (maybe younger)
This means that by the time Hiccup and Toothless are both 71 years old, the year will be 1066, so the Vikings and Dragons are literally 56 years away from seeing the Battle of Hastings in the first movie, and Zephyr and Nuffink would be in their 40s and most likely would have had families of their own, so this whole ancient looking Toothless could be an interesting concept to explore if Dreamworks decided to make another story based on that fact (as unlikely as that is to happen)
What do you think?
Also, awesome artwork btw
I think due to the dragon sizes, night (and light) Furies and other relatives could only live for about as long as a human, so if toothless can survive (which is highly plausible), he can live from 80 to 100 years old, or even older (I'm pretty sure Max would be 110 based on the oldest human today).
I think the maximum for humans is about 125-130 years old. there is a woman who lived 122 years in 1875-1997. if she lived now, this number would most likely reach 130 due to how much medicine has stepped forward since that time. But if we talk about how long a man lives, it will be about 120-125, because a woman on average lives longer than a man by 5%. It means that Light Fury will most likely outlived Toothy for a few years.
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I honestly wish they would just use a female Night Fury, that way it could have actually save toothless's species.
Edit: I'm talking about a completely different plot for the movie that doesn't have nothing to do with the light fury because of how awful her design is.
Rexy rex2005 I mean night lights have toothless DNA
@@mightyskrill and? That still does not save his species, they are not like the original Night Fury genus
Rexy rex2005 bitch if it was a female and fucked a male light fury itd be the same shit
Rexy rex2005 yes I agree
@@thethrretheherherg490 I'm talking about toothless with another female Night Fury you dumbass read what people say before acting like you know what the hell you're talkin about
can i just say something, how could valka have lived with the dragon for 20 years when she picked up the belwilderbeast egg at the end of the dragons: race to the edge series. in race to the edge hiccup is estimated between 17 and 19 years of age which makes valkas bewilderbeast 3 to 1 years of age, preferably i would say valkas bewilderbeast is 2. ofcourse this is logically. could dreamworks have messed up the timeline? also hiccup in the second movie sais he has never seen anything like t when shown the bewilderbeast however he comes in contact with one in the last episode of dragons: race to the edge. again could this be a messupo in the how to train your dragon timeline. we simply do not know, but one thing is for sure, i dont think valkas bewilderbeast is old and i dont think she has lived with it for 20 years judging by the events in dragons: race to the edge. since she had the egg at the end of dragons: race to the edge, where would she have put that egg other than where she is living. she does not describe meeting it as a youth, but that is simply because the second movie came out before dragons:race to the edge which the first season was released back in 2015. this raises many questions but personally i think the bewilderbeast is a few years of age as every bit of evidence leads to that conclusion, unless valka put the bewilderbeast egg somewhere else and the bewilderbeast she is with is infact ancient. but then this raises the question "where did she take the bewilderbeast egg?" and is it wild?, is it dragos? we simply do not know but as i said this raises many questions or may i say ""this changes everything"
Hiccup does say he never even saw it.
Ryble Bloodcraver I will reply to this soon give me a few hours I’m currently doing school work
Julya Flyer yes that is true but you would think they would try to make it make sense in the movies, for instance if they took out the bewilderbeast in race to the edge this conversation would not be happening and the transition between race to the edge and the second movie would make much more sense
Ryble Bloodcraver I feel like that on many occasions ahahha
Julya Flyer tell that to Dean Deblois and everyone involved with the series LOL ahahha
For Valka’s bewilderbeast’s age, if anyone remembers the last episode of dragons edge, It showed a scene of Valka with the bewilderbeast egg, meaning her bewilderbeast is about 6 years old.
how does that make sense ;-;. HIccup is recorded to be around 18-19 in RTTE and in HTTYD 2 he's 20. Last i checked 18+6 or even 19+6 doesnt equal to 20. That would mean the time gap between Valka taking the egg (presuming its not long after Atali left the egg for Valka) is around 1-2 years. Besides Valka has stayed with that particular Bewilderbeast for 20 years. She did say that Cloudjumper took her to the dragon nest we saw in the 2nd movie.
So no, no way in hell is the Bewilderbeast valka stayed with 6 years
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5:42 The age of GRRM dragons is a bit tricky actually,for one thing the show aged them up faster than the books did,for example when Danny takes the city of Meereen in the books the dragons are still about the same size as we saw them in season 3,however in the show they where larger by that point. Another thing to consider is the environmental factors,dragons that can roam free in volcanic regions and a plentiful source of prey and magic is around will let them live longer and reach large sizes faster than dragons that don't have lives like this,example the dragons locked in the DragonPit of KingsLanding where smaller than those at DragonStone where they could also mostly roam free and made there nests around the islands volcano, and in a similar way the great dragons of old Valyria who could grow larger than the mighty Balerion himself. I will say tho that I really like your take on elder Toothless especially all the details like his fin made by Hiccup having started to be torn and slightly smaller than his other fin,but one thing I noticed is that the spots are stripes he had in the first movie and all the tv shows seem to vanish by the second and third movie, I wonder if it's like a cugar or lion who are born spotted but loose the spots as they age.
O they are totaly different trust me. The only similar things about them is that they can breath fire,fly(with some exceptions in HTTYD) and are scaly.
The fact that night fury’s lifespan is, idk, around 1000 years but tootless still remember hiccup 😢
this is so well put together! It's so kind of you to put content out there with everything that's going on for you so thank you so much 💕
Valka’s bewilderbeast is only around 5 years old. Hiccup found its egg near the end of Race to the Edge, and then he leaves and we see Valka in her mask, taking it.
I don’t know if you guys know this but the shrieking sound effect of the night fury diving down is based off of the luftwaffe or spitfire fighter planes diving around the beaches and shooting at the ground troops in ww2. Just thought you guys might want to know.
Valka’s bewilderbeast is younger than hiccup because in the end of the series when hiccup is about 17 or 18 valka steals the egg!
In the last episodes of the “Dragons Race to the Edge,” Volka had received the Bewilderbeast’s egg from the female dragon fliers, which means that the bewilderbeast was in fact less than a year old when he appeared to the public based on the time line between the show and the 2nd movie.
It doesnt matter how old Night Furies can get Valka said Toothless was Hiccup's age.
Casey Kipf thank you finally someone remembers that besides me.
Same here!
I am surprised nobody else pointed it out lmao
Valka met this bewilderbeast at the end of how to train your dragon race to the edge
I never knew you were sooooo good at drawing and colouring silver, I love it!
The Bewilder Beast was around 2 years old. Beacuse, in Race to the Edge, we saw those women with razorwhip babies (I forgot their name ;-;) giving the bewilderbeast egg to Valka. At that time, Hiccup was around 18, 2 years later he meets his mother.
What I don't like about the movies is te fact that they don't make any connection to the series. I expected to se Mala, Dagur or at least Heather in HTTYD the hidden world. Or AT LEAST in the homecoming. But no, we didn't. I miss Mala, Dagur, Heather, The Skrill, The Flightmare, the razorwhip women (yes this is how I call them) Torch and the rest of 'em. I wanted some refernces to the tv series too. And, I don't say it wasn't cute, it was awsome, buuut....The Homecoming was something like, to get rid of us. We didn't see Valka or Eret, it was very short and more like, nothing special. I'm sorry, I know most of you wom't agree, but it's true...
I agree with u i think they should have made dragons race to the edge before the second movie so then they would have added the other characters and dragons to the second movie then it would make sense. In my opinion, i think the second movie was rushed. Great, but rushed.
Fun fact: In one dragon book I read, it is said that people believe that dragons are able to be able to live up to 1,000-10,000 years (crazy right?!)
Just curious guys, do you remember Power Rangers: Dino Thunder?
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Yes
I do I still have those toys and blanket
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dino thunder vs abaranger anyone?
that model of Toothless as an ancient dragon looks awesome and it's exactly what i imagine him as a titan Night Fury.
'increased amount of facial nubs, larger wings and tail, as well as his overall more muscular build are all indicators of age'
also httyd3 toothless: tiny fairy wings
“fairy wings”
more like design inconsistencies tbh LOL XD
About the bewilderbeast age, in the shows it says that HE (keep he in mind) is an egg, and the queen of dragons is nearby and at the very end of race to the edge it quotes along this lines “we gave the egg to the wing maidens ( is that what their called?) who know someone who knows a safe place for the egg” and it shows Valka with her mask taking the egg away, so that’s possible that the king of dragons is not to old
Silver!! So good to see you back ❤️
I have an awesome idea for a story, what if the hidden world was in the Bermuda triangle and a certain black dragon with green eyes has been shooting down planes and boats that come to close to the hidden world. One day a 20-year-old boy survives and stumbles upon toothless who is now in his 900 and all the other types of Furies that him and the light fury have had.
Sooo coooll I love it you should do this with he other dragons when you have time we all love and miss you?
I miss you so much silver and so interested! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
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Toothless is actually the same age as Hiccup, just making this easier to figure out how old he is.
Dang, that's good! I really enjoy how you can see the age on Toothless in the face, but it's still incredibly recognizable! Those large back spikes are also something very impressive. It adds a bit to the character, and makes him look much tougher, and even a bit more majestic.
He just has that look of wisdom, y'know?
I love how you made him look
The bewilder beast is only a young because in RTTE we see that the wing maidens leaving the king of dragons egg for valka to take
not to mention that they change in color, because toothless’s eye color and skin color changed pretty quickly, eyes being turquoise to a bright forest green, and his skin being navy to black.
Do u ever wonder in School of dragons if the light fury has a TITAN WING, Silver?
Good question
Also i love Glory XD im on book 8
@@galaxydeathskrill5607 I did the test so I changed my photo
@@audry-annaedwards6903 oh cool
I seriously need to read WoF.
@@dirandrous7682 look for wings of fire comic and find the one that has voice acting
Tootle: *speed sound*
Video: *n i g h t f u r i e s*
One thing I realized is that, if you take the tv shows into consideration, Hiccup and Toothless are already war veterans by the time of the second movie. I remember when the second movie came out and I hadn't seen it yet, we went to McDonald's one day and I got a How to Train Your Dragon Happy Meal and there was a picture of Hiccup and Toothless on the box and I noticed that he had a bunch of very subtle scratches or scars on his body and I think it's kinda cool how the movie established that he and Hiccup had seen plenty of action since the lastovie before that story was even told
I saw just browsing my suggested stuff and I found this, you're an amazing artist.
I’ve been watching how to train your Dragon two over five years and this is how he looks like Cool when he’s 1000 years old
I hope your doing well im in quarantine and your videos make me smile
I’m getting all these how to train your dragon recommendations because I saw toothless have an existential crisis over kilograms
In the last episode of Dragons: Race To The Edge, it shows Valka receiving the egg of the "King of Dragons" AKA from the Beewilderbeest that lives under Beeserker island. This seems to indicate that Valka grew up the dragon to what we see in the movie about 2-3 years later.
However, it is noted that Drago will find another King of Dragons, so it is unsure whether he too gets an egg or captures a wild one.
Though I point it out, I still find it incredibly hard to believe Valka's Beewilderbeest is that young on the account of its size as well as the ice castle it has created which seems to have a long lived community of dragons with multiple generations staying there. I would also find that the amount of food needed to grow something that large from an egg in such a small amount of time is ludicrous. Seriously, how would it feed itself so much?
that was the best picture of a night fury ever
It's not talking about how good Silver's art is??? I love your channel Silver and your art is amazing!!!
Fast, Hunting skills off the charts, fast and elusive, it's anomalocaris .
Also, love how you gave his mechanical tail wear and tear!
I loved how you actually showing how you made it your drawing is so good or would you call it art either way looks really really good🥰
GUYS the bewilder beast is actually really young!!!!! If u watch dragons race to the edge at the end of the series hiccup finds the king of dragons egg (bewilder beast) and the wing maidens knew someone who knew hiccups mom, so valka has had the bewilder beast for a few years! :D
if you think, i have something to say. okay so.
the httyd show on Netflix with normal looking characters without any young or old, anyways, i remember how in maybe the last episode at the end, you can clearly see Valka taking a white egg with spikes kind of looking like a bewilderbeast, my theory is that cloudjumper didnt take her to the nest, i think cloudjumper took her to a hidden cave full with ice where the last white bewilderbeast, A mother was in, but im pretty sure , the other bewilderbeast has passed since no other proof of another but drago's and valka's. Then this must mean that Valka/hiccup's mother raised the bewilderbeast with cloudjumper alone, then gathering more dragons, taking a few years for this dragon to grow, when you said in game of thrones the dragons can grow to an adult size in a few years, maybe the bewilderbeast has that feature as well.
here are my thoughts on encountering an ancient night fury its aged hide is tougher than steel no steel weapon can hurt him no weapon can penetrate its thick aged hide it fires is as hot as being too close to the sun and it's just as bright as the moonlit, it has sabor tooth teeth and he was bigger than a stormcutter dragon and can breath 10 types of fire and is grouchy and grumpy and really funny I love you toothless
It’s really nice to see you back silver! Hope you stay safe!
Finally you posted can you post every week pls I love your vids and I ask if you can do a nother vid raising ones pls
There is a show on Netflix called Dragons race to the edge that has the answer to the king thing you talked about.😁
It feels like the older a dragon gets the more they trade their physique for sheer fire power
i just LOVE the art in the end
Okay so just mentioning we kinda get a confirmation on age of the Bewilderbeast in Httyd: Race to the Edge, as Valka gets it's egg at the end of the series, and I'd guess the time of the show is between the first and second movies.
So it cannot have been 20 years, so I think it's a Game of Thrones age type here.
Lol I love the dramatic intro!
This is so awesome and accurate!! If he was older he would look like this for sure!!
It's good to see you coming back again, I hope you and your family are doing ok ❤
I think that night fiurrys can live op to 150 yrs. But smoler dragons like the hobbolgrunt would live for 20 yrs and be more like mice so they try to breed.
Its great to see you back silver! I hope you're doing ok ❤
Actually, in the third movie we all know he is 21 but in homecoming Hiccup says that it was 10 years ago when he released Toothless so he must have been 31 in homecoming
This may be about How to Train your Dragon but I fangirled over Elliot from Pete’s Dragon 😍
The bewilderbeast is around 20 years old, from race to the edge some people tell hiccup that they have a good friend to take care of the bewilderbeast egg. The ending part of the series being Valka taking the egg in the night, this show was basically confirmed that it was the story of httyd 1 to the second movie. Because also at the end Drago bludvist tells someone to get him a another bewilderbeast egg, because they failed at getting the other bewilderbeast egg.
For homecoming I think someone said “It’s been ten years since the dragons” I forgot the last bit
Toothless had thousands of years to grow to immense size, extra nubs, huge claws, but he still can't grow that ONE GODDAMN TAIL FIN
Because of toothless’s handicap, I doubt he would manage to survive that long in the wild without humans to take care of his artificial tail. While he has the capability, toothless will be unable to survive for very long due to this unfortunate handicap.
Actually, the Bewilderbeast is a few years old in the 2nd movie because in the Netflix series, Race to the Edge, in the final episodes, Hiccup finds a bewilderbeast with an egg. The egg is then given to Valka. And, dragons of the edge is around the same time as Httyd 2, because we meet Drago in the last episode. So, yeah.
Yeah, my theory is the Bewilderbeast we see in the 2nd movie isn't the Bewilderbeast Valka had lived with for 20 years. The previous Bewilderbeast probably died, its lifespan complete, and the Bewilderbeast we see, which is roughly the same size as Drago's :( , is it's successor. Makes it all the more sad for it's death and the servitude of Drago's Bewilderbeast, though. It means they were only a year or two old. And we know it's plausible, because we know from RTTE and DoB that dragons can grow to almost full size in a matter of months.
Wouldn’t he be a titan wing eventually?
He became a Titan Wing the second he unlocked his Alpha Mode in HTTYD 2
Robert Curley that is not a titan wing, titan wings are always bigger than normal dragons
@@robertcurley8406 nah alpha mode is just a thing dragons can do when they challenge the old leader. Like assuming, (by what we saw from the snoggletog short) Dart would likely take over of toothless's 3 cubbies that is if he didnt have more nightlights with light fury after that. but mabey thousand year toothy is his titan wing form. hes surely larger and likely more powerful
@@robertcurley8406 Toothless is not a Titan Wing.
Omg That's Amazing,Good Work!
I DIDN’T KNOW YOU DREW SO GOOD😦
5:29 in race to the edge it is shown that valka got the bewilderbeasts egg from the wingmaidens so the bewilder is only around 2 years old
It's sooo good to see that you're back Silver!
There’s a setup in race to the edge of hickup and toothless saving a bewilder East egg that end up with his mom so she has to have had it from at a young age
he is very beautiful seeing you draw him on the net was like a little kid watching a magic show and seeing the real magic and wonder in it. i love dragons so much and toothless is one dragon that is very dear to my heart. thank you for giving me a glimps of him as the true elder king of dragons.
(Note:I’m not trying to piss off any how to train your dragon fans Plus since The how to train your dragon dragons are based off of real animals I was stating scientific fact so no need to bash me in the reply’s I’m just correcting sliverwillowwing for giving the wrong information since she based toothess’s lifespan off of mythical magical movie/tv show dragons once again I’m not trying to piss off any httyd fans)
I don’t think a night fury like toothless could live for a thousand years since the dragons of the how to train your dragon series are based more on real animals than magical beings or creatures so I think he’d live for more than a hundred years than a thousand years the only reason I’m saying it is because toothless ain’t the size of a bigger dragon like the forever wing the red death or the bewilderbeast which could live for thousands of years
That’s just like saying an elephant can live for hundreds of years like a massive sauropod like a brachiosaurus the elephants lifespan is seventy in the wild the only reason that paleontologists believe that sauropods could live for hundreds of years is because the larger the animal is the longer the lifespan but elephants can’t live for like say 450 or 200 years like a sauropod
Plus you based your evidence off of magical movie dragons instead of the more realistic animalistic aging like the dragons are in this franchise even if reptiles do live for hundreds of years they can’t live for thousands of years they just can’t reptiles can only live for some many decades so your toothless at a thousand years old drawing is inaccurate since it’s most likely toothless would be dead by then
I’m only stating this as scientific fact if you based toothless of real reptiles like the dragons are based off from real animals
I know I'm late but I have to say that you did an amazing job! Well done! I don't know much about dragons but I love them!
Last video in the Netflix series showed Valka's bewilderbeast meaning it is not over 20 as The edge was between the 1st and 2nd movie, you could also see Valka taking the egg at the end when the wing people left it :)
That tuthless pic looks funny af
Holy moly youre talented at drawing, wow
"dragons are magical and allows them to live much longer then humanity"
the greenland shark (which is basically just a water dragon): can live for 500 years....
5:20 Race to the edge contridicted HTTYD2, since hiccup's mother pretty much said that the alpha was there when she got there (about 20 years) but in Race to the edge ending (which was only a few years before HTTYD2) shows that hiccup's mother took the alpha egg that belonged to the alpha that was in beserker island, just a thing to think about really
I guess you could count this as "Dreamworks forgot"
What about valkas cloudjumper? Cloudjumper took her away as a grown adult I think and then lived like 20 years alone with valka until hiccup came. And if I remember right he was in the third movie too, that would make him a really old dragon tho.
Hi i completely agree with you theory i was wondering if you could recommend any art programs as i am starting gcse art and i need something better then windows paint, i really love your drawings and was wondering if you had any tips :) keep up the spectacular work and i hope you stay well and safe.
her bewilder beast dragon is actually the egg that in the race to edge hiccup rescued so its around 5 or 6 years old
The Bewildebeast was only and egg at the beginning of HTTYD 2 when hiccup was around 17-18 years old
No Vulkas bewilder beast is only a few years old. Cause in race to the edge Dragos dragon had an egg. They wanted the egg AND the mother, but hiccup took the egg and gave it to the wingmaidens and they gave it to Vulka. So drago went back and took the mother bewilder beast and Vulka raised that one she has now for only a few years. Watch the ending of race to the edge if you disagree