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  • Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2024

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  • @niallcassidy7219
    @niallcassidy7219 2 года назад +8

    Thanks again Joe for another good and honest video. If people are scared of buying a Cayman, take note. I took mine to a Porsche specialist in Dublin recently. I had a fair amount of work done. Work I've been putting off a long time. It's a small little place with two mechanics, one is the owner. This fella seemed to really know his stuff. He is almost 20 years in business working on mainly Porsche cars, he has in that time only 2 IMS issues and would you believe never had a bore scoring issue on a Cayman. I think it's simply down to luck. He did tell me however that driving a Cayman regularly is paramount. They are not to be treated like garage queen's.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! I’m smashing the videos out lately after a little gap. Yeah it does seem to be a lottery.
      I genuinely wonder how common bore score is, they did make many many thousands of these cars. It’s must be a small number. I was just so unlucky. Just shows in this video how much you can throw at these cars.

  • @mikemartenson4357
    @mikemartenson4357 2 года назад +1

    I've heard it called the Porsche tax. The money spent after buying the car. I just bought (9-6-2022) a 2006 987.1 S with 44,000 miles and immediatley took it to the shop and had everything checked. All flushed and new fluids, air cleaner, hoses were in good condition as well as the belts. It doesn't smoke at cold start and drives like a dream. I've got 2 other cars I drive, but this one is by far the best. 1 downside, it only came with one key! I've subscribed and look forward to your assessments.

  • @ThatCaymanGuy
    @ThatCaymanGuy 2 года назад +3

    My 2006 CS is almost 41,000 miles at the moment its running great. for being a 16 year old car just dumb things are going, like the head liner tand the cable in the inside door handle. despite all of that, its still the best car i ever owned.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Yeah so the things that are breaking are age related and not miles. That’s always going to happen. Imagine a 2006 French car, you would have most of the parts in the boot 🤣

  • @aidan463
    @aidan463 Год назад

    Ive been enjoying my 987.1 Boxster S for 18 months now as a cheap, fun weekend car, bought with 120K miles but showing a regular 8K miles every year on MOTs with impeccable servicing, so i wasn't too worried. No issues at all for me in my first 10K miles with it. Ive enjoyed fiddling and replacing those dreaded heater switches, plus also found the manual gear knob top comes off super easy with a trim tool and was easily resprayed to look mint! (Def worth a go on the black Cayman). All in all a wonderful car to drive, and a car that makes people smile whether your driving it or watching it drive by... The amount of love passing strangers have shown it has been my biggest surprise! For smiles per mile, give me an old school Boxster/Cayman any time. Keep enjoying your cars guys and keep bringing us those vidz.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад +1

      Great to here you are loving yours! They are fantastic cars and still gain loads more attention than I ever expected!

  • @parvinkukar1259
    @parvinkukar1259 2 года назад +1

    Nice to get another cayman owners perspective and experience

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Yeah I thought so, really nice bloke. Would be great to get more videos like this done.

  • @coordsportgmbh5728
    @coordsportgmbh5728 2 года назад +1

    Full Elephant Racing kit on ours - so not a single rubber bush on the suspension arms or topmounts remains. You get the occasional clunk but the handling is sorted having been set up with a lot more camber. Ours is a track car BTW = sump extension, semi slicks etc.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      That’s insane! Bet it handles incredibly

  • @rossbethell4187
    @rossbethell4187 2 года назад +1

    Basalt black + lobster claws! That’s fantastic!!
    Did you happen to mention bore scoring? I might need to watch this again to check if you did 😂
    Nobody ever makes videos, writes forum posts or mentions not having had bite scoring. So many cars driving about, owners oblivious to it, not on forums, not making YT videos, with no bore scoring.
    I’m not playing it down and it’s certainly worth checking over but the school of thought you can’t buy one without getting it, or buy one and budget for it or anything similar is wrong.
    Also the school of thought that a 17 year old car with 80k+ miles on original suspension is bad for wanting a refresh is also wrong.
    My wife’s peugeot 308 is regularly costing her £600+ at MOT time. Just west and tear.
    Yes porsche parts can be dearer. Apart from that they don’t need to cost ££££s at every point of maintenance or service (unless you take them to a Porsche specialist).

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Might have not mentioned it, I can’t remember. I am aware of it just a little 🤣 my whole channel is based on it and my rebuild story. Yeah they are just like any old car, expensive. Porsche tax does bite occasionally tho. Thanks for the comment, it’s a stunning little car in that spec.

  • @JJL206
    @JJL206 2 года назад +1

    Joe - Owning Porsches doesn’t have to be an expensive proposition if you do your homework and buy the right car. Mileage isn’t that important if the car has been well-maintained.
    Did your friend in this video do a PPI on the car before he bought it? There’s a couple of obvious things like rust on the fenders, mold on the headliner, and some aftermarket bits added that are telltales that maybe the car hasn’t been that well taken care of.
    I own a 2007 987.1 base Cayman and base Boxster… they have had nothing but regular maintenance and annual oil changes. Both been excellent cars to own. All I’ve done on modifications is adding better stereo head units and wood shift knobs.
    Any Porsche that’s 10 to 15 years old at this point probably has some little bits that need to be fixed. That’s no big deal, most of those things we can do ourselves. There are plenty of RUclips videos to show how to fix them. Like the gummy temperature and fan buttons on the climate control unit.
    Keep up the good work. I enjoy your content.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Thanks for you kind comment:) yeah it’s all about the research, as far as I know he didn’t have a PPI on it but that’s the thing with so many Porsche purchases, especially first time owners. It’s heart over head
      Good to hear you haven’t had issues! The base ones do seem to be the way to go.

  • @mrh6577
    @mrh6577 2 года назад +1

    I had bore scoring on my 997 😂😅 your quite welcome to review mine, I would need a trailer for the amount of invoices I have!

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Now that sounds good:) where are you based?

    • @mrh6577
      @mrh6577 2 года назад

      @@JoeTalksCars I’m in Upminster Essex, you’ve probably said before but where are you?

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      @@mrh6577 Filey on the Yorkshire coast

  • @pattiboychannel311
    @pattiboychannel311 2 года назад

    2 great cars sitting right there, I've been thinking about buying one for about 3 years now, wish I bought one pre covid I saw 34s going for £10,000 sometimes even less. Great video

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      yeah it is mad to think mine was considered quite expensive at the time! Get one asap as they will only go more and more expensive.

  • @MrRoyck10
    @MrRoyck10 2 года назад

    Buying a Porsche comes with some well known manufacturers issues, my old new Porsche 987.2 with 54k smokes on cold start, just a puff of smoke for a few seconds intermittently, I changed the AOS nothing happened until two days ago, the same puff of white smoke. I guess I may have to live with that mild embarrassment, any advise appropriated. I can’t imagine driving any other car not even a 911 as I love the midship engine. Having followed your experience with bore scoring I was guided to the 987.2. Thanks for sharing.

    • @JJL206
      @JJL206 2 года назад +2

      A small puff of smoke on start-up is completely normal for these cars, as they are flat six engines and some oil tends to pool in the cylinders if they’ve been sitting for a bit.
      It’s not an embarrassment it’s a Porsche!

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад +1

      Nice! Glad to hear I have helped your buying decision! Some do smoke, just seems to be the way. If yours is a .2 then it must be just the way it is. Unlikely to have bore score but not totally unheard of.

  • @grande_007
    @grande_007 2 года назад

    Interesting comparison. No PPI for either car and shows it’s just a lottery. I’m sure the Porsche lettering on the rear of the S was not standard for a 987 either. Think it was on the 981 onwards. Keep up the content Joe. 👍🏻

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад +1

      Thank you! Yeah it was spur of the moment. It’s a lottery and I’ve lost more on it 🤣

  • @thefosterfam
    @thefosterfam 2 года назад

    Keep up the P-car content! I always enjoy your candid viewpoint and Porsche ownership journey. I'm wondering if you are near Suffolk and might do a piece on MRN race technologies and the work they are doing to add performance options for our cars. Might make for some good content! cheers!

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Lots more to come every single Sunday:) I’m on it now. Oooh il have a look online. Lots planned this year so I could make the trip:)

  • @DarkstarDarth
    @DarkstarDarth Год назад

    Porsche engine blocks were all steel up to 2008 which are subsetible to bore scoring, then after they were sleeved and removed IMS completely. I'm considering a MX5 instead of loosing sleep✌️

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад +1

      Yup that is the problem, the what if. I am a huge fan of the MX5 and they are literally bombproof, if a little underpowered.

    • @scrutch666
      @scrutch666 Год назад

      Not comparable in my opinion. I had them all. You go porsche if you did a mx5 and then a s2k and you end up looking at porsches because you got old and you want more comfort and more power but similar exciting driving experience . Its not really news that porsches are expensive in repair. I just dont think that they are comparable because the mx5 and s2k been bad daily drivers. The porsche can do both

  • @krassimirpetrov7131
    @krassimirpetrov7131 2 года назад

    My biggest repair on my 987.2 S was the clutch and flywheel for $4900 USD and the scratch that cost $8500 USD due to some other driver

    • @k-van9570
      @k-van9570 Год назад +1

      4900 for clutch and flywheel? Damn!😅

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад +1

      My god! They are so expensive to fix aren’t they even the things we consider generally maintenance

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад +1

      I’ve had my engine rebuilt and even that made me wince at the price 🤣

  • @94mikyyy
    @94mikyyy 2 года назад +1

    The way I see it, these are a bit cheapper Caymans with maybe little less care and maintenance. I'm looking at a few and for the condition I need them in, they cost between 24-28k

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад

      They are cheaper to buy but don’t be thinking running it is any better. Parts are incredibly expensive and the engines are prone to scoring, well the 3.4 gen 1 is like these. sorry for the late reply 😉

    • @94mikyyy
      @94mikyyy Год назад

      @@JoeTalksCars My audi a5 2.0tdi cost me 5000 in one year just on service and maintenance, although I did drive it 30 000miles. Front and rear disc and pads are 1400 for Audi 😂, Upper rearmost control arm 400each etc. I think prosche is pretty cheap then compared to some plain 2l diesel

  • @gsk5161
    @gsk5161 Год назад

    Being an American and being right handed it seems like it would be awkward to shift gears with ones left hand. Am I wrong?

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад

      Weirdly no, swapping from LHD and RHD cars is not an issue at all. You’d think it would be but you would be surprised.

  • @aaronhowram6045
    @aaronhowram6045 2 года назад

    I must be very unlucky as well, after my rebuild to a 3.7 I’m getting 365bhp
    Bought for 12k one year later owes me 36k

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Nice! Really good power it makes then!

  • @growthcountry
    @growthcountry 2 года назад

    I don't care. Im still getting a base 987.2 and im doing a tune, new intake, new exhaust, lighter wheels, front lip, gt3 style wing 😄

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      .2 with those mods will be amazing! Lot of cash now but 100% worth it!

  • @nick7602
    @nick7602 2 года назад +1

    From Day one my 2008 - 987.1 Cayman SSport Ltd Edition………first 6 months I generated 41 Invoices totalling £10,000 and thats not for bore scoring either, it must be remembered at the time these cars were being built Porsche were in a serious place they were going Bankrupt, in America Porsche had to pay a court case for bore scoring….not sure of all the details……but Porsche couldn’t get away with such poor quality in America, they are also prone to the gear cables breaking which is hilarious, everytime I mentioned to my very well known and highly respected Porsche Specialist about a part failure…..it was Oh yeah thats a well know issue I have a fix for that……I asked him about high mileage Porsches and his advice was stay away from them…..Porsche cars don’t like and wear high mileage like say a BMW or Audi does……his advice is sound advice…..he also mentioned that when Porsches get past a certain mileage I think its about 80k, the parts start to fail one by one he said, so if your going to keep this car be prepared to have massively deep pockets and keep on paying for repairs he said………it really stumped me here I was with a car I had always dreamed of owning……for god sake its a bloody Porsche…..wheres the quality?……..

    • @boywelder1
      @boywelder1 2 года назад +3

      I have a 2008 base Cayman i feel pretty lucky in 3 and a half years and 30 ,000 miles I have only had to replace a window regulator and coolant hose best car I ever had doesn't miss a beat

    • @nick7602
      @nick7602 2 года назад +1

      @@boywelder1 your so lucky, I’m quite envious……I still love the Brand…..Im really really cautious about having another one, its a mix of emotions really……but when they are good they are bloody great fun I have to say………enjoy Troy

    • @JJL206
      @JJL206 2 года назад

      Did you get a PPI in the car before you bought it? If not that’s on you.
      BTW - Porsche was not in a world of hurt when these cars were built. These cars were making a ton of money for Porsche, along with the new Cayenne, at the time.

    • @nick7602
      @nick7602 2 года назад +1

      @@JJL206 interesting, if they were doing so well why are the quality of parts so poor?…..Why is there bore scoring etc etc etc?….why are the crank shafts only surface hardened?….why do the gear shift cables break with frequent hilarity?…….and if they were doing so well why did Audi have to save the brand with a buy out?….but good point though, like the vast majority of people who buy these cars I didn’t get a pre purchase inspection, I relied stupidly on what I thought Porsche were, a quality car…….I mean what could go wrong its a Porsche…..I learnt the hard way, and boy did I

    • @JJL206
      @JJL206 2 года назад +1

      @@nick7602 I’ve never had a major issue with the quality of parts for my Boxster or Cayman, perhaps only with the exception of little stuff like the temp and fan buttons that got gummy or a spring that broke in the cupholder system. All easy fixes. I’ve never had an issue with shifter cables, and like IMS bearings, the issue is completely overhyped - and were pretty much corrected before the Cayman made its debut. Any parts that I’ve ever needed I’ve been able to purchase at a discount from Porsche dealers or used on the Internet in very good condition.
      While the Volkswagen Group technically owns Porsche, Porsche AG is the majority stockholder of the Volkswagen group. So hardly a buyout because of a company failing. It just made sense at the time. They merged in 2011, well after the Porsche financial problems of the early 90s. Porsche is a huge cash cow for the Volkswagen group as they have the highest margins of any car manufacturer in the world.

  • @mjhhoward91
    @mjhhoward91 2 года назад

    Why would you buy a car and not test drive it first ? Find it hard to believe that you buy it and then realise the same day that it has a major issue.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      What does a short test drive tell you tho, not a great deal. An old car like this is a roll of the dice in most circumstances.

    • @mjhhoward91
      @mjhhoward91 2 года назад +1

      @@JoeTalksCars if the steering wheel is shaking then would be noticeable on a short test drive. I guess he purchased it privately too , otherwise he could have gone back to the dealer if the car wasn’t fit for purpose. All in all a lesson on “how not to buy a car”

  • @richfixescars
    @richfixescars 2 года назад +1

    Another owner throwing money at these cars, they are money pits!
    By the time he does the exhaust, resprays the front that's another £3k, so suddenly a £13k car owes him £19k.
    Be careful guys these are money pits. A BMW Z4 or Audi TT are so much cheaper.
    Do you really need a Porsche badge?
    I had one and bailed out after putting £3k into it, and it never stops. Probably cheaper to buy a new one on a PCP.

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 2 года назад +4

      BMW and TT are cheaper for a reason, they're boring in comparison. I've owned a 2.7 Cayman for over 10 years and yes, I've spent money keeping it in good order, but I enjoy driving it in a way that a crap BM or Audi just wouldn't satisfy. I know, I've driven them. So yea, if penny-pinching is your thing buy something else.

    • @wasimakujee5627
      @wasimakujee5627 2 года назад +2

      You get what you pay for to be honest I’ve had a z4 coupe for 5 years loved it until I got my Porsche Cayman s 987.1 I bought it mainly as it had the full hartech rebuild so no engine worries main thing but the car is a on a differnt planet the sound the way it goes the way it handles the badge everthing it makes you feel special to be honest in the 4 years I’ve had it I’ve spent so far around 2000 pounds on it max which included the front coffin arms and dampers and some exhaust bits and few other bits trust me but one you won’t ever regret it

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 2 года назад +1

      @@wasimakujee5627 I know exactly what you mean. I've recently put my Cayman into the official Porsche body shop for a tidy-up and I had a BMW Z4 soft-top as a courtesy car, it was nice n'all, but I couldn't wait to get my Porsche back.

    • @wasimakujee5627
      @wasimakujee5627 2 года назад

      @@kw8757 you in the uk ? Am doing a refresh on the paint side so going to be repsrayinf around 4 to 5 panels to bring it back to perfect as i believe the cayman 987 is one of the best looking porches timeless and the curves and the way those rear haunches come out 👌👌 with every penny look amazing

    • @kw8757
      @kw8757 2 года назад +1

      @@wasimakujee5627 Yes mate, North West, took mine to Road & Race near Bolton, that's the official body-shop for Porsche in the North of England, they're not cheap but they're very good.

  • @Jwdude123
    @Jwdude123 2 года назад

    Good luck finding a good one and not having to pay out the ass for it

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  2 года назад

      Yup. This goes to show how expensive they are to run

  • @johnob1824
    @johnob1824 2 года назад

    wasp..thats the lynx effect

  • @dangrass
    @dangrass 2 года назад +1

    brilliant design, terrible engineering. One of life's great tragedies.

    • @JoeTalksCars
      @JoeTalksCars  Год назад

      Agreed. What a shame they messed up sorry for the late reply 😉

  • @kent570253
    @kent570253 Год назад

    Nice video, but it would be impossible to talk over each other more than that. It gets annoying. Let people talk!!!