Spa-Francorchamps Old F1 Circuit - onboard view in 1958 (+ Ferrari 246 F1)
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- IMPORTANT - new video with FULL lap onboard old layout + crashes + 100 years of history here: • Spa F1 Circuit History...
This is a video of the 1958 the Spa-Francorchamps GP circuit! The long version - not used anymore! Originally, the video had no sound so I used some jazz. Then, years later, I got a copyright notification so I changed it... I think for worst but, at least, it stopped the YT claims...Sorry about that...
Music: The Blue Pearl from the YT Library
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Here´s the first Grand Prix at Spa! In Film and HQ pictures! ruclips.net/video/XcFz-KaGtzM/видео.html
I went there in 1976 for the 24 hour race for group 2 saloons. There was a small pub at the apex of the flat-out Burnenville bend where you could watch just a few feet away from the circuit. It remains one my most awesome memories of motorsport watching BMW CSLs hurtling past while in full drift mode in the dark.
ow, that is a great comment! SPA is great!
@@ourafilmes The pub/cafe I am referring to is the building on the right at 1.04 on your video though there was much needed armco in front of it when I was there!
@@coleorum This was 20 years before. That is also a great corner to watch!
My favorite cars -- the BMW CSLs. I see their record that race was one winner and six DNFs.
@@coleorum wow you must have had some amazing experiences in your life sir. All the best forward 👍
The old Spa and the new Spa are both amazing racetracks.
old spa is better
@master 82575 the old spa track doesn’t work with modern f1, over 90% of the track is flat in them.
@@KitKata507 i dont like modern tracks boring
@master 82575 firstly I never said modern tracks are better and secondly what about a track where you’re flat out for almost the entire lap sounds fun, it would be worse than monza.
Jude Jones Monza with that banking and without the chicane before curva grande would be fun to watch
Very cool footage. What an insane circuit...
Spa is the best circuit ever!
@@ourafilmes Very very nice yeah, but The Nürburgring is not one to forget! :)
@@testacorsa150 to me i lile the sudchlife better, it had a better flow to me than the nordshlife. Too bad nobody used it, its public roads now which is cool, but some of it was tore down
Don't let this video be removed, it's a relic
Cheers!
Music choice is excellent.. I would love to have driven that old circuit.
Thank you! Cheers!
With the right equipment, you can! In VR ;)
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It's crazy looking at that drop to the right of blachimont, especially when you look at it today with it's massive flat run off area to the right. I wonder how much dirt that had to dump to create that runoff area.
Cool vid. Scary seeing the skid marks after the masta kink
Yes, for sure it was not good!
VW swinging wide to hit the apex at 2:46 😀👍.
And almost smackdaddies a cyclist coming the other way on the exit :)
He was a racing driver and he rented that car to practice the lap! Strange idea today but very used in the old days.
@@ourafilmes Really? I thought he was some imbecile pretending to race in his Beetle. I also wondered about the moron who parked his car on the road at Les Combes, though after pausing the video there, I wonder if that was a breakdown. Still, both of these seemed like very erratic behavior. Same at the start when the camera Ferrari basically pulls out and cuts off a truck. Wow.
@@Eatinbritches Yeah, that was a normal thing to do in the old days. Even in the 80s I remember portuguese Rallye drivers renting cars (before rent-a-car companies banned them) to practise for the Rally of Portugal!!! In the mountains in the dirt on roads used by shepherds and sheep! They would simply return a wrecked car... LOL!!!
Looks like someone had an off coming out the Masta kink! Also love the Beetle taking the racing line at La Carriere!
Yes, it was the most dangerous part of the track!
Yeah!, the Beetle part got me laughin 😂😂
I bet the cyclist didnt laugh... ;-)
Memories from 1958. I was there for the "European GP" that year when our little Lotus finished 4th and if the race had run one more lap Cliff Alison could have won the race as all 3 front runners limped across the line with problems . My next time there (1960) saw one of the most dreadful Gps as regards loss of life to two young British drivers who where on the rise ,namely Chris Bristow and Alan Stacey and also serious injury to Stirling Moss and my Boss Mike Taylor, both during practice . . It was one race meeting that I shall never forget !
Thanks for sharing those memories!
Hats off to those drivers/athletes. The amount of bravery in the world of today's sport is less than what it was in the 30s through 60s. I'm talking pretty much all sports. Racing, football (American), integration of baseball.
So very true. These guys were true heroes!
Those guys had some balls, but on the other hand, they might not have as strong a pace if they were around today, jim clark couldn't drive a merc w11, and hamilton couldn't drive a lotus 49, drivers suit their era really well
Lol even traditional football was rough as fk back in the day, broken ankles and other bad injuries werent rare
I’ve been lucky enough to meet and speak to some modern day F1 drivers and I respect them for their talent! Guys racing at these times had to have talent and serious balls... get it wrong and you hit a house? Legends all.
Or hit a telegraph pole or go through the endless fields and meet a cow or a tree... They were true heroes!
A few years ago my dad and I drove on the old part of Spa (that you can still drive on). It was pretty fascinating. I wish I had been able to do it about 15 years earlier when Eau Rouge and the Kemmel straight were still public roads
That was great! By one side it is preserved but on the other side it is not public anymore... Cheers from Portugal!
Great footage. Amazing to see the track as it was 60+ years ago. Wonderful music as well, suited the footage perfectly.
Glad you enjoyed it! SPA is a great track!
Just went to Stavelot for work last days and i have to say the old circuit was crazy. Those roads still exist and are now used as ordinary roads but its almost all straights and u can get so fast even with casual cars. I just can imagine flying through those roads and wide turns between pine trees and rocks, just amazing. Oh and then i got to the modern track and saw some testing, with the sun we had last days it was just perfect.
To me... Spa is simply magic ground!
To be fair, it was always a public road and Spa in the past was road circuit, like Circuit de La Sarthe still works (mostly, because part of it is also permamently closed). Spa was shortened and closed for public traffic later.
I'm an F1 fan now I was born in Sept 1959 so I find it interesting. Thank you
Cheers from Portugal!
Skid markers after the masta kink? Perfectly normal sight for 50's and 60's racing
Even today if you race there!
Absolutely love old Spa. Simultaneously glad that race circuits like that aren't used for modern day F1. Safety may be boring to some, but I really prefer not seeing multiple deaths on the track every season.
Thanks for watching. Motorsport will be always be dangerous. Whatever track you select.
So many Great Memories of this Old SpaFranchorchamps circuit in the Ardennes Forest of Belgium >>> Thank You So Much for Sharing! ♥️🌷🕯
Cheers!
Love the nostalgia in this film. The history and geography combined make this incredibly interesting to watch how this iconic track evolved over the years…. Well done 👍🏻.
Thank you for your nice words. A lot of work on this one... Cheers from Portugal!
Great video and soothing music, verging on chilling when you consider this was the Road to Heaven for many drivers.
It was not the original song but I got a copyright claim so I chose that one. But yes, it´s a bit haunting!
Magnificent film . Also the 1966 film Grand Prix has a lot of footage of the old Spa Track . It was always regarded as one of the best race tracks .
Yes but they want to get rid of it...
Thanks for posting this tribute to a long-past era...
Cheers!
Still one of the best old school circuits in use in F1.Love the beetle going on the wrong side of the road so he clip the apex of the curve.Seems there were a lot of race fans driving the track at the time of filming
They were public roads, don´t forget!
Super Cool! Thanks for the upload....great to see the old circuit in all its glory.
Cheers!
Why has this channel so few views? Excellent living pictures!
I think it´s life... Maybe it´s because this is a very diversified channel... Cheers from Portugal!
Has not changed much, It's cool to drive around the area.
Thanks. Cheers!
Those skids marks on the exit of the Masta Kink indicate something terrifying previously
Lots of crashes there. It was the most dangerous spot.
Thankyou so much ❤ imagine living in one of those houses in this era , a real treat to see the greats zipping past your lounge window & free to boot !
That would be cool!
Brilliant. Thank you for sharing this!
Cheers!
Lapped the old circuit in 1990 when I went to see the WEC, only in a 1600 Escort, but trundling around I thought how it must have been.
The old Masta straight, flat out in the rain, 917, Matra ms 670, Ferrari 312 pb long tail, wow.
Mate, all those guys were true heroes! Not like today where they complain for anything!
Excellent- thank you for posting. I really enjoy seeing these old tracks, but they were so very dangerous. Glad safety has become an important consideration nowadays, even if some of the “excitement” may be gone.
Drivers were heroes back then. The world just came from a World War - safety was a word without meaning!
This is cool, music is haunting.
True words!
Amazing quality
Thanks!
Racing was in its infancy but it was also at its best! The thrill was the danger and the drivers loved racing more than life itself. To those who gave it all I salute you ❤️
True heroes! Thanks for watching!
"Racing was in its infancy" lol no
@@JamesHoffa1 excuse me. I stand corrected. Formula 1 was in its infancy 🤦♂️
Eine wunderbare Strecke, und eine schöne Zeitreise.....Und dann noch aus meinem Geburtsjahr...Vielen Dank.....
Prost aus Portugal!
There was no "bus stop" then. The corner before La Source is Clubhouse.
Site of Dick Seaman's accident in 1939 and where Archie Scott Brown went off and died in 1958. I think poor Archie actually hit the Seaman memorial.
Indeed. Thanks for watching! Cheers from Portugal!
Old or new, Spa is still one of the most beautiful tracks there are. (Still wish I'd see the bus stop chicane the way it was in the 90s but oh well).
That is (was) my backyard and 1958 is my birth year....Saw Jacky Ickx in the paddocks for the 1000 kms when he was factory driver for Ferrari (312SP? maybe)...Amazing memories!
Great suff mate!
What an amazing footage. Thank you. Spa is my most favourite race track beside the old Nürburgring.
Yes, one of the best racetracks! Thanks for watching!
Brilliant video, absolutely brilliant
Thank you! Cheers from Portugal!
Great video. I think what amazes me the most about this is that the drivers were able to fit their balls inside their driving suits.
Great point! Thanks for watching! There is a better onboard in the Video "Spa F1 Circuit History, Crashes and Onboard Old layout (FULL LAP 1962)"
Awesome footage! The Masta kink looks just terrifying.
Thanks! It was! Cheers from Portugal!
The music is perfect for this video. You almost travel in time .
Thanks. Cheers from Portugal!
Exactly what I thought. The music was perfect.
Between the music and the video, I was really taken somewhere else. Perfect.
@@ourafilmes I have visited SPA F1 three times, but when I watch this video I really think about what my father was doing at this very moment when the film was shot. All I know is that he was 18 years old.
He is still alive today (2024), 84 year old. Thank you for making this video .
Me and a friend went to the Spa 24h last week and took time to drive round the out layout, it's an incredible experience especially the banked Stavelot corner. Just a shame that the Masta Kink is currently covered by roadworks. Spa is incredible and no videos or pictures will ever do it justice.
I LOVE Stavelot corner! And it is still in its original configuration!
probably the finest race tracks nxt to Nordschleife,the old tracks were bigger and more exciting,this reamains even today but most of it has now been inhabitted and is more used domestically,it would be nice to see the original course used once again,theres allot of history and deaths of drivers,it tells a tail itself,the new spa is great but can you imagine an f1 car today driving a 9 mile cerciuit like those older cars did,no me neither.
It'd be flat out most of the way, not the most exciting race unfortunately ( other than the hideous danger, anyway :p ). Stavelot is an interesting corner but I don't know, I don't rate the circuit all that highly as a circuit, if you ignore the history of the place.
Interesting how it's only an hour or two away from the Nurburgring too, must be something about the Ardennes.
Rode this circuit in 1959 on a 350AJS single when I was doing my National Service at The Headquarters at Rhinedalen in Germany
Yeah! That must have been great! Cheers!
best footage ive seen of the Kemmel straight not actually being "straight" back then !!!!
Hummm. Maybe you should check the long video I did about Spa - History, Crashes and Onboard - much better than this.
Amazing footage! I remember the days the circuit was still a public road on non race days, except for the Raidillon, where you had to take the "Virage de l'Ancienne Douane", which was the layout before they built the Raidillon. If you would like to see what it looks today, I was recently there and filmed 360 on the new circuit and the old layout.
That´s nice. Thanks!
It'd be so awesome for F1 to have just one monster track again, like this.
Yes or a high speed track like old Silverstone or Monza pre 1972!
Those skid marks at the exit of the Masta Kink are ominous 😳
Yes, a nasty crash!
Clip gave me the chills. Wow.
Thanks for watching! Cheers!
Thank you for the very valuable video. I was very impressed.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks
No problem
Very nice video, thanks! Racing there was kinda russian roulette... Most trackd of those days were dangerous, this one seems to be one of the the worst, flying close to poles and houses at 270 kph... Yet very thrilling. The good thing is being able to race there in simulators! 😉
Spa is the best racetrack ever!
this is notonly Eau Rouge, Eau Rouge was original left hander, steppping uphill is called Raidillon.
I know that mate but the original video has a cut there...
People talking about the Masta kink, remember: Jackie Stewart qualified this turn as the most dangerous in the world. On a track that has Eau Rouge/Radilion
True! And I forgot to add an annotation there...
Beautiful circuit even today with the changes. I love the movie Grand Prix with the cars blasting down Masta in the rain throwing big rooster tails behind them. Glorious!
Couldn't agree more!
Brought a tear to my eye lol
LOL! Cheers from Portugal!
Amazing there were still tyre skids from somone going off on the fast right at masta kink. 1:46
Yes, that was considered the most dangerous corner in the world by Jackie Stewart.
Wow, thx!!! Amazing quality!!
Awesome video.
Thanks!
it hurts to think how many plants and trees have been cut to make the escape routes for the new track ...
That´s such a nice comment! Indeed, most tracks had lots of trees that were cut. Just imagine - Interlagos was full of trees!
7 laps in the old "Grand Prix Legends" and I was exhausted... the F1 guys were just amazing, ps never got thru the Masta kink without lifting and got cleaned up by the roadside houses many times
LOL. Masta Kink flat out is only for heroes! Cheers!
Que maravilhosa escolha de música, parabéns, uma viagem muito prazerosa neste belissímo circuito.
Obrigado pela visita!
Wish I owned one of those homes along the circuit. Better times
Yes but if it was in Blanchimont it was demolished by now...
ESO ES UN CIRCUITO,Y NO LOS DE AHORA.....EL VIDEO ES INCREIBLE....BUEN TRABAJO...UN SALUDO
Gracias! Un saludo!
Less than fourteen years earlier that area of Belgium was a battleground during the Battle of the Bulge.
Yes, I mentioned that in my Spa history video! Thanks for watching! Cheers!
The balls of all the drivers who drove on this track.
True heroes!
Fantastic, thanks :)
Project Cars 2!
Well I like the film and the music!
Thanks. Cheers from Portugal!
To drive these tracks in those cars. You have to be insane.
That´s what existed back then! Real heroes!
And 20 years before in the pre-war Mercedes and Auto Union cars. Imagine 600 hp and crap tires on those roads nearing 200mph
@@mark3p and on the rain!!!
Such a great track, just awesome.
Glad I can watch real vintage footage,;
Assetto Corsa is great fun, but...
It's nice to see the real thing, reminds me of my Granpa's reel-to-reel, nice.
Thank-you so much for posting this, 30 years ago I would have never found such footage.
Pure amazing.
btw I really thought the music was really well-suited, almost nostalgic.
Thanks Rod. I appreciate it. I also think the music is amazing on this video but I didn´t like it first time. It wasn´t the original one but I had to change it for copyright issues. Cheers from Portugal!
@@ourafilmes Greetings from SE British Columbia, Canada. Thankyou again for sharing. I have some friends that come for the F1 races, they will sure love to see this as well.
Next weekend is Imola.
I really like classic Monza most. The High-Oval Combined Circuit, no Chicanes is phenomenal, and I drive it in a sim. I would give most anything to drive it in a 60s f1 car, almost no downforce. Thanks again, I love lost old tracks.
@@roddy6924 Cheers!
What music did you initially use that you had to change because of copyright issues ?
I had no idea how much longer the old version was. Does anyone else think it would be awesome if the F1 video game series did a "Grand Prix through the ages" game featuring all the manufacturer and driver championship races from every year with all the original tracks and all the original entries as options so you could play through each year in any car that raced? Also the Dirt series should do a similar "Pikes Peak through the ages" game.
Spa was a monster track!
my favorite f1 track
I guess we all love SPA!
Shame it isn't uncut
Hi. This was shot on film. If you don´t know, this was shot in a 8mm camera that is spring loaded (common at the time) - it lasts for 30 secs and then you start again by loading the spring for more 30 seconds... That´s how it was at the time... no batteries! My 50s camera still work that way as new!!!
People who voted a thumbs down are obviously not a racing fan. They may have been disappointed that there was no McDonald’s drive through 🤨
Great comment!
The masta kink must have been scary in the old cars going over 300 kph there.
The most dangerous corner in the world!
1:46 I don't quite think those skids came from a laddy silently driving out the house driveway...dangerous times. But eminent upload, thanks!
No, indeed that was the most dangerous part of the track, not Eau Rouge... or Blanchimont...
@@ourafilmes Yes, Masta Kink almost flat out was only for the bravest in the racing cars of the past. One gets worried about the driver who made those skids.
Superbe, pas d autres mots
Merci!
The Masta Kink... as ballsy as Raidillon to take this almost flat out !
Even more, the old drivers said!
this was fast Track imagine doubling in the rain too much
Thanks for watching! Cheers from Portugal!
Brazilian Fan here 🇧🇷😍👍
Ei Brasil! Um abraço de Portugal!
old spa excellent circiut
What a circuit
One of the greats!
Geniales Video.
I cant imagine drivers driving this high speed circuit without helmets or seatbelts. This is so unreal
Old School racing was for the brave!
Hi what is the music here? Is it Brian Eno? Very cool!
Hi. It is in the description.
1:46 telling by the skidmarks someone already got it quite awfully wrong.
Yes, into a tree is not good...
that home to the left at 1:25 still exists 50°24'51.5"N 5°59'05.0"E
Yes, most of it is still there! Thanks for watching!
I raced the Grand Prix Legends SIM.
Thanks for watching!
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Gracias!
I know driving and gameing wont be even compared
But damn o damn driving on this cirucit compare to many others this one is one of my fav do much speed
It´s a great circuit! Thanks for watching! Cheers from Portugal!
I was born at the wrong time..& Wrong place. What a drive that would be.
It happens... LOL! That´s why these videos are amazing! Thanks for watching!
Saftey in motosport came when jackie stewart had his crash in spa 1966, trapped for nearly 30 minutes, he then started a driver saftey campane, to make f 1 safer, install armco barriers ect.
There was some tracks that where safe, but the cars werent, full of magnesium colour, benzinfuels bulild around the driver.... it burns like hell. They changed it, but it takes much years and much drivers.
Spa and the Nordschleife where some dangerous and enorm fast tracks... good that this tracks arent longer in f 1... because the saftey wasnt anymore..or better:....tracks havent any saftey.
Spa sure was an incredible track, but the danger of been killed or thoughts about saftey were practicly zero.
Safety was not an issue back then...
If only we could've heard that Ferrari
Yes, I also would like that but film cameras do not record sound so...
Old F1> New F1.
It´s history! Racing in Spa goes even further back!
Someone should make a video of the old circuit today in 2020 and them compare it what it is today.
You can find those easily. Not comparisons but current drive on the old track!
Amazing video. Thanks ! What is the name of the song ?
Hi. IIt´s from the YT library: The Blue Pearl by Jesse Gallagher
@@ourafilmes Thank you very much :)