in my upcoming comic, i made everyone have different speech bubbles so that they have 'voices' without an actual voice. and for the accent thing, i have a russian character who looks very dainty and fragile while his voice is a heavy russian accent, for comedic effect and since the comic is about subverting expectations
Your comic sounds pretty fun tbh!! The aspect of creating unique speech bubbles for each character is super creative! Also the Russian character sounds funny asf 😭😭😭
NO THE ACCENT/DIALECT THING IS SO FUNNG because like somebody would say “oh I had a hero(?) for lunch today” and I would turn around and go “YOU MEAN A FUCKING HOAGIE??? 😭”
Untilted-untitled reminds me of my childhood. I read the warrior cat books (first series) and I kept pronouncing two-legs as twolgs and didn’t realize for years, assuming that “well these are cats, of course they have funky names for humans” Fantastic advice btw, I love creators who break down this semi-intuitive stuff. It makes it more intentional to use in writing going forward.
First off I just wanna say that I love your profile picture haha but anyways I like the name twolgs better than two legs for some reason 😭There's just some good originality there! I'm glad you liked the video! This is for sure something I'm super passionate about!!!
@ aaahhh thank you! Had a chuckle when I saw your she-ra example. Your writing videos kinda remind me ok Scott Mclouds “Understanding Comics” it’s very technical knowledge but presented in a way that doesn’t feel like a textbook. Highly recommend if you’re nerdy about the medium of comics.
Yesss, more of this. 'Same face syndrome' is chronic among indie artists (no shade, been there lol). It's also important not to draw 'same face, different skin/hair' people, either. I have a nickname for it "ambigu-brown" (when they draw five blank people, but make them varying shades of white, brown, mixed and black and throw in some dreadlocks for good measure so you know who the black people are supposed to be, but ignoring any and all unique ethnic features such as nose, lips and eyes - maddening!). Your art is so cute!
OMG YOU ARE MY TYPE OF ARTIST! Nothing drives me more insane than same face syndrome in people's art! I don't understand why I see so many POC characters with Eurocentric facial features. I need to actually make a video on same face syndrome one of these days cause I'm tired of seeing the same CTRL + C CTRL + V type characters 😭😭 Imma start saying ambigu-brown too, also thanks for saying my art is cute
I’m not even all the way through the video and I have to say- thank you so much for sharing this information in such a clear, descriptive way with so many wonderful examples. So many of us never had the opportunity to learn about these things in school and sharing the culmination of everything you’ve learned about this subject is so meaningful. Your interest in OCs and willingness to share your process of making them is a godsend to someone like me who is obsessed with OCs and always looking for ways to develop them. So thank you again, I’m so excited to soak all this in.
Omg thank you so much, that's honestly so heartwarming!! I'm just so glad this video has been helpful in your creative process! Communication studies is something I'm super passionate about so I'm overjoyed this is resonating with you! Thank you thank you!
I subconsciously knew what proxemics was before watching the video but didn’t know it has a name until now! Ty madi lol. Drawing character dynamics with varying closed and open is really fun you’ll get unique poses for each. Kai’s open and Julian is closed so drawing them together is fun. (If you’ll allow me to go on a whole rant) Kai’s main modes of love languages are physical touch and words of affirmation while Julians is acts of service. They have to compromise and they make it work. I love when opposites r friends. (ALSO have u made a video going over the 5 love languages? Why do I feel like you have) RANT ASIDE 4:17 does that mean that Kathys crush is cannon nowww?? Im going to pretend it is. 11:38 THIS is why I’m subscribed to you. Drive thru of burger king analysis lets gooooo!! 🎶Im in the drive through of burger king 🎶 I have a feeling Elijahs gonna be my favorite idk if u can tell but I love characters who are absolutely train wrecks. Passive aggressive characters are horrible but they’re sooo fun to write my guilty pleasure It’s really funny cause at the start of paladins Hoku is passive aggressive and the rest of his team is passive it’s SO bad (They get better I swear) All my characters have american accents and it’s booring I’d love an Aussie or British character eventually. SaLmon is so funny. You’re on your own, I'm sorry. 😭 Ill purposely say words wrong because it’s spelt like that like Pizza ill say Pi-zza or Wednesday wed-nes-day Cause like that's how it’s spelled sorry. I am so impressed you were able to get this video out after scrapping the first one you’re work ethic is unreal. Please get sleep 😭😭
OMG YESSS! More Kai and Julian lore! I could totally get that sense that Kai is more open and Julian is closed, I mean the way you frame Julian especially. His idle animation default pose is crossed arms 😭and Kai is just cover art material! It's also good to know their love languages! I don't even think I know my OC's love languages but regardless I was gonna talk about love languages, Gottman 4 horseman, and some other third thing for valentines!! ALSOOO I THINK SO 😭 Kathy has a crush on Jioni, we make things canon in the youtube comment section let's goooooo! Trifold lore is about to be as disorganized as Hazbin and honestly that's how it should be 💀💀 🎵Can I please get a Whopper Jr. with onion rings?🎵 Lmao we have so little content that we have to analyze the memes 😭😭I wanna start on Joe 3L already, but I need to get to ch15 of Trifold!!!!! And omg yeah Elijah is becoming my fave to write too, he's truly something else! The scrapped video was an OC Characterization game of the Joe 3L cast, I can give you out of context images for that 💀 Also Hoku being passive aggressive, while the rest are passive, that's SO FUCKING FUNNY HELP!!!!1! There's nothing more iconic than a passive aggressive + passive duo, now making it passive aggressive with 3 passive people. ABSOLUTE INSANITY! I thrive off Paladins chaos 😭😭 Omg that would be so fun to have different accents! But there's no shame keeping everyone a 🦅🏈🗽 cause having to remember them all is a chore. A fun chore, but a chore! Also it's saulmon idc 😤😤 but I call it wed-nes-day too! only in my head so I can remember how to spell it lmao!! But anyways I'm glad you liked the video! When in last minute chaos, it's best to talk about obscure random ass knowledge you learned at university 💀💀
as someone who has a character with a thick yorkshire accent and therefore has heard a yorkshire accent, i can assure you that it is so hard to parse out and also i can tell you that the sentences you showed on screen is the most legible it's ever been. and by that i mean it was incredibly legible and the least legible part is "tha' " which is slang for "you"! so the only thing they're doing besides that is dropping "g"s and the "e" in "the". anyway i have a character with a yorkshire accent who usually speaks southern british so that he doesn't have to repeat himself. i try not to write his accent out too heavy when it switches unless he's saying something inconsequential or is angry. bc yorkshire in particular is just a pain to understand at times, esp if you use slang; might put a glossary at the end, even (/silly). gonna have to ponder communication styles though :) i like putting my ocs in little boxes,, i should think more consciously about proxemics too,, outside of cuddling. i need to draw more guys next to each other who aren't just cuddling lmao also if you want to know: it's pronounced dee-vee-ant art with stress more on the first syllable rather than the second :) you can also just look up how to pronounce "deviant" and listen to it bc that is just a word lmao /lh edit: just checked bc of the use of "thee" and as it turns out yorkshire dialect has larger roots in old english/old norse than standard english! that's likely why it's so hard to understand with all the slang :) (mostly referring to stuff like the slang for "you"/"self") neat ! reading the dialect is similar to reading shakespeare or something earlier but with more letter drops so it's like. that accent in particular has a learning curve
The thing about Martha's speech, like, it's legible, I could make out what she's saying. But it almost requires me to slow down my own reading speed and maybe even read it twice to simply understand! I get that it's an accurate Yorkshire accent, but it's so jarring in the book reading American English and then having to switch to Yorkshire English on the same page! btw, are you aware of the Welsh version of Harry Potter? If not, go read a page from it lmao. It's pretty interesting. But anyway, I could read the Welsh version of Harry Potter, but it's not as legible as just the original version of it. I guess my big point is that you make the accent to whoever your audience is. You either go fully Yorkshire or fully American! If I were to rewrite Martha's speech. original: "It's th' air of th' moor that's givin' thee stomach for tha' victuals," answered Martha. It's just easier for me to read. "It's the air of the moor that's giving thee stomach for tha' victuals," answered Martha. She still keeps her accent, but it's still legible to an American reader. If the book wasn't for Americans, the original Martha is fine. You have to do like a perspective switch on this, just reading it from the point of view of someone who has never met someone from Yorkshire. I even put her speech in a Shakespeare translator: "T's the air of the mo'r yond's giving thee stomach f'r tha' victuals," answered Martha. Like sure I can read it. It's just so jarring and a pacebreaker, especially since the main character, Mary, isn't written that way! Anyways drawing characters cuddling is an actual mood. Honestly I love that for your OCs haha! And I'll try to remember deviant art is pronounced that way! I'll remember today, the problem is will I remember a week from now 😭 I'll try to remember this comment! also, can you translate what "tha'" means haha, I think that word is stumping me the most!
@@Rosemadi.artist ah yeah when i read accents i just expect to have to reread it a couple times lmao i don't find much issue with it since i'm usually rereading lines sometimes anyway (my eyes HATE focusing on sentences and sometimes my brain does a bad job processing). dialogue with written out accents is fun to me! kinda like a mini puzzle in some few cases. probably a preference thing. honestly i'm grateful they didn't just drop the word "the" entirely (which *is* part of the dialect! they do that! it could be even harder to read! /silly) "tha'" is "you"! i think it stems from "thou". yorkshire dialect has a ton of slang but having a different word for "you" is definitely a choice lmao
I give all of my characters different eyelashes and the boys no lashes Lol. They all have their own eye shapes and some have unique things in their eyes- Also its so funny EVERYTIME Im making more ocs your vids get recommended with me when I need them Lol yt is in my walls-
in my upcoming comic, i made everyone have different speech bubbles so that they have 'voices' without an actual voice.
and for the accent thing, i have a russian character who looks very dainty and fragile while his voice is a heavy russian accent, for comedic effect and since the comic is about subverting expectations
Your comic sounds pretty fun tbh!! The aspect of creating unique speech bubbles for each character is super creative! Also the Russian character sounds funny asf 😭😭😭
@@Rosemadi.artist UJGFJHG thank you!!
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NO THE ACCENT/DIALECT THING IS SO FUNNG because like somebody would say “oh I had a hero(?) for lunch today” and I would turn around and go “YOU MEAN A FUCKING HOAGIE??? 😭”
AND I HEAR HERO, AND I HEAR HOAGIE AND I'M LIKE IT'S A SANDWICH. ANY BREAD WITH STUFF INBETWEEN IS A SANDWICH TO ME 😭😭😭I REFUSE TO GET TECHNICAL
Untilted-untitled reminds me of my childhood.
I read the warrior cat books (first series) and I kept pronouncing two-legs as twolgs and didn’t realize for years, assuming that “well these are cats, of course they have funky names for humans”
Fantastic advice btw, I love creators who break down this semi-intuitive stuff. It makes it more intentional to use in writing going forward.
First off I just wanna say that I love your profile picture haha but anyways I like the name twolgs better than two legs for some reason 😭There's just some good originality there! I'm glad you liked the video! This is for sure something I'm super passionate about!!!
@ aaahhh thank you! Had a chuckle when I saw your she-ra example. Your writing videos kinda remind me ok Scott Mclouds “Understanding Comics” it’s very technical knowledge but presented in a way that doesn’t feel like a textbook. Highly recommend if you’re nerdy about the medium of comics.
Yesss, more of this. 'Same face syndrome' is chronic among indie artists (no shade, been there lol). It's also important not to draw 'same face, different skin/hair' people, either. I have a nickname for it "ambigu-brown" (when they draw five blank people, but make them varying shades of white, brown, mixed and black and throw in some dreadlocks for good measure so you know who the black people are supposed to be, but ignoring any and all unique ethnic features such as nose, lips and eyes - maddening!). Your art is so cute!
OMG YOU ARE MY TYPE OF ARTIST! Nothing drives me more insane than same face syndrome in people's art! I don't understand why I see so many POC characters with Eurocentric facial features. I need to actually make a video on same face syndrome one of these days cause I'm tired of seeing the same CTRL + C CTRL + V type characters 😭😭 Imma start saying ambigu-brown too, also thanks for saying my art is cute
Helping me make my comic better with every video!
Omg that's so good to hear!! I'm curious about your comic now!!
I’m not even all the way through the video and I have to say- thank you so much for sharing this information in such a clear, descriptive way with so many wonderful examples. So many of us never had the opportunity to learn about these things in school and sharing the culmination of everything you’ve learned about this subject is so meaningful.
Your interest in OCs and willingness to share your process of making them is a godsend to someone like me who is obsessed with OCs and always looking for ways to develop them. So thank you again, I’m so excited to soak all this in.
Omg thank you so much, that's honestly so heartwarming!! I'm just so glad this video has been helpful in your creative process! Communication studies is something I'm super passionate about so I'm overjoyed this is resonating with you! Thank you thank you!
YOO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS!! Also i love your voice!
IM SO GLAD THAT YOU LIKED THE VIDEO, THAT MEANS A LOT!!! and omg thank you thank you 😭💕💕 i could cri
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I subconsciously knew what proxemics was before watching the video but didn’t know it has a name until now! Ty madi lol.
Drawing character dynamics with varying closed and open is really fun you’ll get unique poses for each.
Kai’s open and Julian is closed so drawing them together is fun. (If you’ll allow me to go on a whole rant) Kai’s main modes of love languages are physical touch and words of affirmation while Julians is acts of service. They have to compromise and they make it work. I love when opposites r friends. (ALSO have u made a video going over the 5 love languages? Why do I feel like you have)
RANT ASIDE
4:17 does that mean that Kathys crush is cannon nowww?? Im going to pretend it is.
11:38 THIS is why I’m subscribed to you. Drive thru of burger king analysis lets gooooo!! 🎶Im in the drive through of burger king 🎶
I have a feeling Elijahs gonna be my favorite idk if u can tell but I love characters who are absolutely train wrecks. Passive aggressive characters are horrible but they’re sooo fun to write my guilty pleasure
It’s really funny cause at the start of paladins Hoku is passive aggressive and the rest of his team is passive it’s SO bad (They get better I swear)
All my characters have american accents and it’s booring I’d love an Aussie or British character eventually.
SaLmon is so funny. You’re on your own, I'm sorry. 😭
Ill purposely say words wrong because it’s spelt like that like Pizza ill say Pi-zza or Wednesday wed-nes-day Cause like that's how it’s spelled sorry.
I am so impressed you were able to get this video out after scrapping the first one you’re work ethic is unreal. Please get sleep 😭😭
OMG YESSS! More Kai and Julian lore! I could totally get that sense that Kai is more open and Julian is closed, I mean the way you frame Julian especially. His idle animation default pose is crossed arms 😭and Kai is just cover art material!
It's also good to know their love languages! I don't even think I know my OC's love languages but regardless I was gonna talk about love languages, Gottman 4 horseman, and some other third thing for valentines!!
ALSOOO I THINK SO 😭 Kathy has a crush on Jioni, we make things canon in the youtube comment section let's goooooo! Trifold lore is about to be as disorganized as Hazbin and honestly that's how it should be 💀💀
🎵Can I please get a Whopper Jr. with onion rings?🎵 Lmao we have so little content that we have to analyze the memes 😭😭I wanna start on Joe 3L already, but I need to get to ch15 of Trifold!!!!!
And omg yeah Elijah is becoming my fave to write too, he's truly something else! The scrapped video was an OC Characterization game of the Joe 3L cast, I can give you out of context images for that 💀
Also Hoku being passive aggressive, while the rest are passive, that's SO FUCKING FUNNY HELP!!!!1! There's nothing more iconic than a passive aggressive + passive duo, now making it passive aggressive with 3 passive people. ABSOLUTE INSANITY! I thrive off Paladins chaos 😭😭
Omg that would be so fun to have different accents! But there's no shame keeping everyone a 🦅🏈🗽 cause having to remember them all is a chore. A fun chore, but a chore!
Also it's saulmon idc 😤😤 but I call it wed-nes-day too! only in my head so I can remember how to spell it lmao!! But anyways I'm glad you liked the video! When in last minute chaos, it's best to talk about obscure random ass knowledge you learned at university 💀💀
i use proxemics a lot of the time without realising but didn’t know much about body language before and this was really helpful :D
Heck yeah! That's great to hear omg I'm glad this video helped!!
Thank you, teacher! This is very similar to what I'm learning in college!❤️🔥 ;)
Omg are you a comms major too! Art and communication go so well together!!
@@Rosemadi.artist I'm majoring in human services. Kinda like social services, but I still use it ;)
@ThisisIzzy69 that's great to know! Yeah i can see this definitely being useful in that industry!!!
Nice video :0 You put a lot of work in this aw
Thank you thank you so much Ayame!! Haha it's so funny cause i remember when you used to watch my Turtleism channel back in 2017 😭😭
@Rosemadi.artist yeahh tbh I didn't know you had a new channel 😅 seems like I missed a bit of videos. Need to fix it
great video! Also thank you for unlocking that Bella Thorne PSA lol it's been a minute
Thanks!! And omg i love the new delta name!!! Anyways the Bella Thorne PSA would come on alllllll the time!!
as someone who has a character with a thick yorkshire accent and therefore has heard a yorkshire accent, i can assure you that it is so hard to parse out and also i can tell you that the sentences you showed on screen is the most legible it's ever been. and by that i mean it was incredibly legible and the least legible part is "tha' " which is slang for "you"! so the only thing they're doing besides that is dropping "g"s and the "e" in "the".
anyway i have a character with a yorkshire accent who usually speaks southern british so that he doesn't have to repeat himself. i try not to write his accent out too heavy when it switches unless he's saying something inconsequential or is angry. bc yorkshire in particular is just a pain to understand at times, esp if you use slang; might put a glossary at the end, even (/silly). gonna have to ponder communication styles though :) i like putting my ocs in little boxes,, i should think more consciously about proxemics too,, outside of cuddling. i need to draw more guys next to each other who aren't just cuddling lmao
also if you want to know: it's pronounced dee-vee-ant art with stress more on the first syllable rather than the second :) you can also just look up how to pronounce "deviant" and listen to it bc that is just a word lmao /lh
edit: just checked bc of the use of "thee" and as it turns out yorkshire dialect has larger roots in old english/old norse than standard english! that's likely why it's so hard to understand with all the slang :) (mostly referring to stuff like the slang for "you"/"self") neat ! reading the dialect is similar to reading shakespeare or something earlier but with more letter drops so it's like. that accent in particular has a learning curve
The thing about Martha's speech, like, it's legible, I could make out what she's saying. But it almost requires me to slow down my own reading speed and maybe even read it twice to simply understand! I get that it's an accurate Yorkshire accent, but it's so jarring in the book reading American English and then having to switch to Yorkshire English on the same page!
btw, are you aware of the Welsh version of Harry Potter? If not, go read a page from it lmao. It's pretty interesting. But anyway, I could read the Welsh version of Harry Potter, but it's not as legible as just the original version of it.
I guess my big point is that you make the accent to whoever your audience is. You either go fully Yorkshire or fully American! If I were to rewrite Martha's speech.
original:
"It's th' air of th' moor that's givin' thee stomach for tha' victuals," answered Martha.
It's just easier for me to read.
"It's the air of the moor that's giving thee stomach for tha' victuals," answered Martha.
She still keeps her accent, but it's still legible to an American reader. If the book wasn't for Americans, the original Martha is fine. You have to do like a perspective switch on this, just reading it from the point of view of someone who has never met someone from Yorkshire.
I even put her speech in a Shakespeare translator:
"T's the air of the mo'r yond's giving thee stomach f'r tha' victuals," answered Martha.
Like sure I can read it. It's just so jarring and a pacebreaker, especially since the main character, Mary, isn't written that way!
Anyways drawing characters cuddling is an actual mood. Honestly I love that for your OCs haha! And I'll try to remember deviant art is pronounced that way! I'll remember today, the problem is will I remember a week from now 😭 I'll try to remember this comment!
also, can you translate what "tha'" means haha, I think that word is stumping me the most!
@@Rosemadi.artist ah yeah when i read accents i just expect to have to reread it a couple times lmao i don't find much issue with it since i'm usually rereading lines sometimes anyway (my eyes HATE focusing on sentences and sometimes my brain does a bad job processing). dialogue with written out accents is fun to me! kinda like a mini puzzle in some few cases. probably a preference thing. honestly i'm grateful they didn't just drop the word "the" entirely (which *is* part of the dialect! they do that! it could be even harder to read! /silly)
"tha'" is "you"! i think it stems from "thou". yorkshire dialect has a ton of slang but having a different word for "you" is definitely a choice lmao
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