Religious Liberty is NOT in Danger
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Is religious liberty truly under threat in America? Many Christians are convinced that their freedom is slipping away, but is that fear grounded in reality?
David French dives into the history of religious liberty in the United States and how the Constitution’s protections have evolved over time. While there are challenges, the truth is that religious freedom in America is stronger today than ever. From landmark Supreme Court victories to federal protections, Christians and people of all faiths enjoy more liberty than most realize. So, what should we be concerned about, and what role does religious liberty play in our culture today?
This video was based off of David French's recent NY Times article,
"The Christian Persecution Narrative Rings Hollow."
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Persecution complex and playing the victim is irritating, and delegitimizes ACTUAL persecution that happens. Being whiney is not Christ like.
-Amen!
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"My parents always taught me growing up, don't wear success on your sleeve"
-Michael Jordan
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It’s also arrogant when we’re called to be humble
This comment seems anti semitic
@@bobbobberson5627 Seeing as nothing is disparaging about Hebrews, Judaism, Jews.... it's not.
Christians thinking they know the OT better than the people who wrote it would be anti semitic.
@@bobbobberson5627 Which group of semites are you referring to? Arabs? Israelis'? Lebonese? Ignorance is bliss, eh?
Actually, my greatest fear regarding religious liberty is the backlash conservative American Christians will face if they succeed in inflicting Donald Trump on this country and the world again.
Backlash, or just calling a spade a spade when it becomes obvious that it was never about religious belief at all?
I have pity on Christians that have been fed fearmongering nonsense and think Trump will save them.
I have no pity for those that know exactly what Trump represents and take the name in vain because it’s a good sales pitch for their political beliefs.
I am actually concerned that the Trump Faithful will be unleashed to persecute Christians who seek to live with fidelity to Jesus rather than Trump's agenda.
@@MaymeIkethe biggest risk historically to Christians is from other Christians.
20th century was an outlier here. Check out Magdeburg’s Wedding for more typical Christians interacting with other Christians.
Inflicting Kamala in the US will be worse at least economically and for the American population because mass illegal immigration and actively supporting undoing the unborn. But at least Christ is the eternal King, and we lived through worse than infighting , and faithful church movements will have more effect in gradually turning hearts.
@@MaymeIke Most Trump supporters have great respect for devout Christians. Many of us are, ourselves. The enemy to Christians in the West is YOU PEOPLE. Not just here, but all over Canada and Europe...white liberals despise Christ like nothing else. They like guns and cash better....they'd sooner wave an American flag than go anywhere near a cross...
I am a public school teacher of 20 years and recall very clearly friends at church saying things like, "You gotta fight the good fight, man. They're trying to take God out of our schools!" all those years ago. It was puzzling then and its very puzzling now. Thank you for the legal clarification.
There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither Christian nor Mahometan, neither Hindoo nor Infidel, for we are all one in the First Amendment.
If churches & religious groups have the right to access public funds like every other organization , why would it be infringing on their rights to make them pay taxes?
I think you’ll find a growing group of people in the church that are okay with paying limited taxes.
Other nonprofits don’t, so churches get lumped in the same.
The “ministries” that sell dubious healthcare products or dubious health insurance that are businesses should definitely pay taxes though:
@@Justanotherconsumer Ding ding ding!
The question is are you a charitable non-profit organization that uses the funds to accomplish the mission stated in your charter (or more accurately religious texts)?
If you proclaim to be a Christian church and if Christ said go forth and feed the poor, there better be several line items with impoverished people getting fed.
@@john2g1charitable non-profit organizations that aren’t doing explicitly religious activities and compete with other charities doing the same work (e.g. food banks) should also be held to the same transparency standards.
There should never be an incentive to slap the label “religious” on an activity when it isn’t painfully obvious.
Organizations like that discredit the church instead of bringing glory to God.
@@Justanotherconsumer correct. I almost edited my comment to highlight university endowments that are often not taxed despite being worth millions of dollars, but I figured this went without saying.
David French is a gift.
I agree to a point, though it blows my mind how little he cares about Israel's war crimes in Gaza
*grift
Correction: David French is a grift.
I think you forgot an "r" in grift.
How is his "gospel" offending anyone?
Thank you for your clear explanation. I especially liked your closing question for all of us to think about.
Usual saw about those used to privilege seeing equality as discrimination.
People want to go back to privilege for their religious views and anyone getting in the way of that preferential treatment is “persecuting” them.
There is real persecution too, but it’s fairly rare for Protestants.
The “search and destroy” was often just removing that preferential treatment rather than an “overreaction.”
The supreme court decisions he cited were examples of overreach or "over reactions" that the court sided with Christians on. They're super interesting to read.
@@littlequail144they happened, but they were not typical.
So much of case law is built on extraordinary situations that are unrepresentative of typical events.
@@Justanotherconsumer true, but the protection for all religious liberty granted by those cases still stands.
@@littlequail144true, though in some cases there is a concern that “religious liberty” will be used as a shield to evade needed oversight.
In particular the health insurance companies that claim they are ministries come to mind. Slapping a religious label on things as a get out of jail free card is a problem.
@@Justanotherconsumer 100% agree with you there.
We are in exile here, and we should live in the secular world as the Children of Israel lived in pagan Babylon...as peacefully as we can. Jesus' Kingdom is not of this world, and there will never be a Christian utopia on earth until He returns. There are places in the world where Christians are imprisoned or killed for their faith. We have a church on every street corner! Every kind of Christian denomination you can imagine! I think some very immature Christians are upset that they might find the occasional synagogue, mosque, Buddhist temple, or "what have you" in their town, as well. Liberty isn't liberty if it isn't for everyone. If the Christian Nationalists have their way and establish "Christianity" as the state religion, I fear we will start fighting over which denomination should dominate (yet again...as happened in Europe). I think Catholics would get the short end of that stick.
We are not in exile. We are ambassadors here to demonstrate the love of Christ and make disciples.
There also was a change in the religious/social dynamic that started in the 1960s (perhaps a little earlier than that. The neighborhood church was the foci of the neighborhood. The first church I joined in the 1980s after moving up here; had a bowling alley, a small gymnasium, and a public auditorium space with an adjoining Kitchen. It also had upstairs on the very top floor, a full-sized apartment for a "live-in" Sexton of the grounds. People moved to a neighborhood that had a church they belonged to, instead of moving into a neighborhood, and hopefully finding a church nearby.
The reason why some, I am not saying all, people criticize and hate Christianity is for our testimony, our actions 😢😢😢😢
So our testimony and our actions are so much worse than those of our Muslim friends? Hardly. People hate Christ for the OBVIOUS reason....because He is the TRUTH.
Man! If Stephen, Peter, Paul, SIlas and John knew all of these they could have avoid martyrdom!!
@@tgriffin3059 and our behaivior, actions, and wods support the idea that he is false!!
@@tgriffin3059 I argued with a friend recently that I was opposed to all theocracies. Whether it is a Christian or a Muslim theocracy is not very relevant. We can point to more Muslim theocracies in the world today which are a threat, but their existence doesn't minimize my distain for Christian nationalists who are a greater threat in the US.
He is right religion is not under threat. It is just used as an excuse by those that want to incite fear into their community. Congregation populations are dropping due to the amount of negativity that is associated with religion. No one is being thrown in prison like Paul or Peter. We have a lot of spiritually weak and emotionally weak people in this nation.
One time at my old youth group, I had recently learned about catholic suffering in Nigeria which was and still is very much happening where active shootings and systematic oppression was ongoing from a bishop. I shared this and said "we Catholics in America don't really get persecuted, we can say we're catholic and not get persecuted for it" and I wasn't even finished talking and the Priest cut me off and got so offended then proceeded to poke fun at me and basically humiliate me and basically said well we Catholics in America face death of reputation, and basically said you don't need someone to point a gun at you and ask if you're religious to be persecuted which is true but then basically mocked the thought of it happening which in some places IT DOES. And finally said to my face that some Catholics here feel kind of lonely and that "there is a lot of family in Nigeria". Mind you in this area Catholics have been known for being racist, sexist, and bully autistic people including me I'm autistic and didn't have any friends and still don't and he just absolutely humiliated me for believing that still I do have it better then some people. I was expecting and told that youth group is a place where you can share your opinions even if not always correct and then subjected to that. I'm not sure if he was right or not still but it's something I always remember after my anxiety issues and suicidal thoughts going on during that time which he made worse.
Yeah, that priest was way out of line. Like, I'm sorry, even if he had expressed his view more charitably, there's no reasonable comparison of "death of reputation" and, you know, ACTUAL martyrdom. I don't know how high a view of oneself anyone would need to literally think that suffering a blow to their reputation is in the same category as those suffering as the targets of an ongoing genocide. Absolutely ridiculous. I don't want to make too many assumptions, but I'm Catholic, and it genuinely feels like a lot of the younger clergy are (speaking very, very broadly) generally a lot less charitable than the Vatican II generation I grew up with; I'm not entirely sure what it is, you'd sort of think it'd be the opposite with Francis' papacy (not that a lot of bishops in this country are crazy about follow his lead), but it feels like seminaries are churning out a lot more reactionary, culture-warrior types now than before, it's upsetting. I'd still say that I've had more support and acceptance at the regular parish level as an autistic person compared to other faith communities I've been in, but it definitely feels like we're going backwards in that area from the days when my tiny home parish didn't bat an eye about teaching a special ed class for kids like me in religious education. I'm still hoping we'll get back on the right track, and that I can help foster more understanding spiritual environments, but it's still upsetting. Remember that you're infinitely valuable, you're exactly as God made you, and you have a right to be upset at humiliating treatment from ignorant jerks. Solidarity in frustration, my dude.
@@isaac_buckley Thank you man, I mean it when I say that means a lot to me because it really does. I kind of have the feeling sometimes that he only used the term death of reputation only just because it had the word "death" in it and no other reason. Then he also afterword said that he quote has the just the urge to correct people when wrong even when they are not finished talking which I don't think you should be proud about considering you are a literal priest. What makes actually more ironic is that the person I found out about Nigerian persecution was from a Bishop's homily about how we Catholics in America have it pretty good and how we've been unfortunately failing in our kindness hence the racism, sexism, and sort of ableism as mentioned and I said I learned it from him. So I mean was he accusing me of not paying attention because of my adhd or just didn't understand what he was talking about like I wasn't even finished talking when he interrupted me. Also the phrase "there is a lot of family in Nigeria" doesn't even make sense like just because they have family to support them makes their situation better or something and is just also a lie from him considering the youth group's parish was huge. Anyways sorry for the ramble I just get the experience out of my head and once thank you for the support
@@Sam-s7i Hey, definitely no need to apologize for rambling! I'm absolutely on the verbose side myself, as you might be able to tell; I'm definitely one of those people who wants to communicate as much context as I can so I have a better shot at being understood. I was actually writing a really long reply to your comment just now, but I accidentally clicked away at the last minute! I hate when that happens, but I should have been writing it up in a text editor instead of in my browser. I mostly remember what I wanted to say; but I unfortunately have schoolwork I have to do now, although I might be able to come back and talk later. Basically, yeah, you're right; that dude's argument just doesn't hold water on any rational basis. Even in most cases of actual animus, like in the majority of anti-Catholic hate crimes here, it just isn't comparable to the situation of populations facing actual genocide; and I feel like it takes either a very uninformed or uniquely egocentric worldview to conflate that with something like damage to one's reputation. Thank you for sharing your experiences, my dude, and God bless.
@@isaac_buckley Yea that's understandable and I feel ya with your use of words I feel like that too sometimes, it especially irritating when Catholics like this complain about persecution in America when they themselves enable bullying and gossip. God bless you as well
it is precisely these freedoms that the religious right uses to gain power and authority in the world. The right simply misses the lesson of the parable of the wheat and the tares and leave judgment to the Lord. Not by might, nor by power but by My spirit says the Lord.
Religious liberty is a misleading term, and deliberately so. Notice how the Nat-Cs almost never say “Freedom of Religion.” They say “Religious Liberty” instead. It’s practically a trademark of theirs.
Think about what the phrases actually mean. Freedom of Religion means just that: you’re free to be or believe any religion you want, including none. That’s pretty straightforward.
Religious _Liberty,_ on the other hand, means that the _religion itself_ (their religion only, of course) should have liberty to do whatever its leaders want to whoever they want, even (especially) to other religions (because _those_ religions are _false,_ don’cha know). Liberty to deny marriage and bodily autonomy and even basic human freedom (slavery was justified in the South by major Southern Christian denominations because of “the Curse of Cain/Ham” in the Old Testament) to whole classes of people based on things _they_ consider sinful or lesser. Liberty to _force_ their religious beliefs and practices and proscriptions on others, regardless of their own religions, through force of law, including in public education.
The history of use of that approach to protect discrimination (e.g. against “miscegenation”) shouldn’t be lost on anyone.
Protecting the social hierarchy seems to be more their religion at times, the Bible just provides some convenient excuses.
I have no issue with religious people believing and saying what they wish to. I do have issues with them trying to Impose it on anyone else. That seems pretty simple to understand. They aren't being persecuted because we stop them from doing that. Even when they interpret it that way. Their attitude and practice is responsible for the very backlash they receive. No one to blame but themselves.
Thank you for this presentation.
For those who preach not to judge, I'm certainly seeing a lot of judgment in the comments...
We are called upon to judge actions....we stop short of speculating about the state of people's souls...
Ooooh boy, you’re gonna take heat for this! Thanks for making it, though. 🙏
The people that need to hear it won’t watch it, and French has already betrayed the “true believers” anyway.
@@JustanotherconsumerA sad truth.
@@Justanotherconsumer
How did French “betray” “true believers?”
@@toreyhorton1789he didn’t support the Golden Calf.
@@Justanotherconsumer
Golden calf? Not sure I follow.
I would add another question at the end, is religious liberty for all or just certain bodies and beliefs. Have heard people advocating for their church or denomination to have access in the local public schools, but once another religious group wants the same access, suddenly " but that's different." Any interested groups or none plus students who are not (or are) interested in religious clubs or activities should be respected in their decision not bullied for it
Stop making sense David. I want to be a victim!
Wasn't much of the loss of government funds to religious private school in 50s-60s due to the fact they were segregation academies that were exempt from desegrigation due to religious liberty? Wouldn't that mean they just had to stop being racist institutions, stop discriminating to get funding? We see this reporting in reserch on the change in religious views on abortion as to why the anti-abortion tree was planted.
Thank you David French!!! Good to remember!
These preachers that have mansions for their parsonages, jets, planes and other luxuries are tax exempt because those ministries are a part of a fake church. That tax loophole must be immediately closed. They shouldn't be tax free when parachurch ministries have to pay more taxes, many times doing the same activities. Churches should definitely be taxed for any activities that don't directly help people.
This illustration is very helpful! I have met multiple Christians who equate "Religious Freedom" with the soft protestant hegemony. This helps explain why that might be.
French’s analysis is logically flawed. He names several ways in which Christians are persecuted in the United States and then dismisses them because Christians have won the majority of Supreme Court battles for the last 14 years. He doesn’t mention that the reason the Supreme Court has the makeup of judges that it has is specifically because Christian groups took the threat of persecution seriously and spent decades working to identify and appoint Supreme Court justices. In other words, the reason that persecution of Christians has remained in check is precisely because of the battle against it. If Christians followed David French’s model and assumed that persecution was overblown, and dropped our guard, then the make up of the Supreme Court would be entirely different. In the Supreme Court wins that he briefly references, he doesn’t discuss the breakdown of voting. He implies that those wins were inevitable, and he assumes that the freedoms we have today were simply going to be there irrespective of the court makeup.
Check your history, those decisions were virtually all split based on ideological lines. Shift two or even one of those justices, and many or all of those cases go the other direction, and Christians in the U.S. today like Mr. French would be singing a different song. Logically, Mr French’s overall position arguing that Religious Liberty is Not in Danger is the equivalent of someone who lives downstream from a dam saying “we don’t need the dam, we’re safe, it never floods, and when it does, the damages are minor.” Not recognizing that it is the dam, itself, that is preventing the flooding. Notably, it’s not whether you win or lose a Supreme Court case that determines if you’re under attack. It’s whether or not a Supreme Court challenge is raised in the first place. No one is, for example, bringing cases to the Supreme Court suggesting that Brown vs. the Board of Education was incorrectly decided. But there are new cases that make it to the Supreme Court annually, that challenge religious liberty.
Change the Supreme Court makeup, and the floodgates open. Stay vigilant.
“Religious liberty” is an argument some have used to argue that Brown v. Board was wrongly decided because racial hierarchy and opposition to interracial marriage was seen as a religious belief.
Even before the current SCOTUS decisions religious persecution was hard to find and required serious political spin to make real.
At least since the Moral Majority movement, the Christian” right “ and the Republican Party have quite successfully joined forces to assert political power to enforce restrictions on reproductive rights, LGBT rights, voter suppression, racial fairness and opportunity etc., etc. on the rest of us. Combined with the never ending religiously inspired chaos of the Middle East, it isn’t a stretch to say religion is doing more harm than good in the world.
What do you mean by reproductive rights? Or even LGBTQ rights?
@@paigemoortgat3122reproductive rights include things like access to contraception (e.g. Comstock Act).
LGBT rights include things like access to appropriate medical care but are mostly about freedom from harassment.
You cannot lump together all religions in the same way as you cannot lump together all immigrants.
Very True! Those of us who actually read and understand Scripture know that false religion as opposed to the ONE TRUE way to worship has either been responsible for or contributed to most of the conflict and dissension that exists in the world.
The True God’s first and most important commandment is not to have any other gods besides Him. He evicted the people residing in the Promised Land because of their disgusting religious practices and warned His people not to imitate them in their filth.
False religion has been a blight on human society and that even includes false Christian expressions. Don't be fooled, there are many.
Matthew 7:21-23
Acts 20:28-31
What if I told you the ‘one true God’ could be used to force division between us? Why is your one God better or even different from The Great Spirit or Creator in Native American spiritual traditions? At least the Creator teaches people to understand our position in the web of life rather than usurp it and unwind the order around us.
It makes me sad really, that we Christians on the whole interpret that Jesus will 8:45 return FOR us, but it may be more so BECAUSE of us. Think of Jesus, regard for humanity, his expressing love, teaching peace and forgiveness, and also tolerance. He had a hard edge for the religious leaders, they who had corrupted religion. I am hopeful our dear Lord will return to clean up the churches that Bear His name. We don’t need 2nd Amendment preachers and all the violence implied in such unfettered gun ownership, we don’t need churches’ disgust of the outcasts, hatred of gays, their stance of superiority, their acceptance of racism…. Won’t we be surprised if the first place Jesus turns to are those who bear His name but faithlessly neglect his peaceful, forgiving, accepting, healing teachings. Praise God, He will be right in whatever He chooses to do.
Just to be clear - not giving a tax exemption to organizations is not "persecution". This was already ruled on when private Christian colleges lost tax exempt status if they banned interracial marriage, for example. Those colleges can still exist, but they can't use government funding. The proposal French mentions is just the application of that precedent to other forms of discrimination now forbidden in most spheres. You can hear more about it in the "On God's Campus" podcast.
The problem with David's entire discussion is his misrepresentation of the scale. It wasn't just the Protestant Cultural Domination vs the Secular Public Square. There were always multiple competing voices in American history, all vying for an equal voice and equal treatment. He is correct in that there have been some over reactions and corrections. He is right that Christians, and Evangelicals are not being persecuted. He needs to do a better job though of recognizing those other voices and whether or not they also have the same freedoms. That's why there was some pushback, not over reactions by the "secular square". Yes, too many Christians want special privilege and not give equal status to other religious groups, not just those that might be considered secular. No, that has nothing to do with being persecuted. So, that entire discussion is more nuanced than David is willing to discuss here.
Its not wise to assume ignorance when It's much more likely an issue of time. To include everything would be to miss the point of this video and probably make it too long to reach the intended audience.
@@littlequail144 I am not assuming ignorance and I am fully aware of time, but one still has to be historically accurate as well as intellectually honest. David French knows better and I believe he can do better. Otherwise this video is no better than a PragerU video, which these videos and podcasts are much better and I hold to a higher standard.
@@randalluthe4792 can you clarify what is intellectually dishonest? I'm aware of the history, and to me, it seems that nothing in this video is misrepresented. It's focused on delivering a concise message to a particular audience.
@@littlequail144 it is dishonest to: 1) discuss it from only a protestant/secular dichotomy, 2) to not point out how religious fundamentalism itself plays a role, 3) Then not discuss how power and influence between the groups affects all of that. In other words, to over simplify it to a basic balancing dichotomy for the sake of time is intellectually dishonest because was always about more and you can't leave that more out. Most of the other commenter agree and that's exactly why they are making comments about the other issues I bring up that David didn't. I understand his argument. I agree Christian liberty isn't in danger, but part of that realization is the honesty to know that I have the responsibility to give others freedom and power to, both other religious groups (other Christian groups & non-Christian groups), as well as secular groups. A large part of that dishonesty is that David still left the discussion on the premise that is about "you", the audience he is directly addressing. You can still do the things you want. When it's just about them. It's about them in relationship with everyone around them. If he can't handle that conversation, then that is my mistake. But, you have to at least I troducebthat idea, or make that concept a part of the conversation. It doesn't take much, but it has ro be a conscious effort. Including others is a start. Yes, you can still do that in a short video.
@@randalluthe4792 by that standard, any summarized education about history will fail. There are always different viewpoints, framing, or greater context that can be applied. To focus is not intellectually dishonest unless it's claiming to tell an all-encompassing history, which this video does not do. This is a protestant targeted video designed to edudute protestants about their role in the history of how protestants have viewed and participated in political power and persecution. Was anything specifically said in this video that was intellectually dishonest?
Big fat NO! And Canada is more hostile but we are surviving
What do you mean as a Christian if I can't opress others I'm being oppressed!!!
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Excellent.
Good morning from the SF Bay Area. Really superb breakdown of the truth of this issue. I commend you, Mr. French, for helping people understand a vexed topic in such plain, simple language. Thank you.
Thank you so much
About a dozen years ago, I was President of a local chapter of a well known peaceful nationally known Bible distribution organization. At Kalamazoo Valley Community College, we were told: 1. We had to have a permit to even be on campus, even though that college is only a few miles from my home supported by my own property taxes. 2. We could be there for two days. 3. We could ONLY stand in the college's remote outside smoking area, far from any entrance, by one parking lot area by the "back" of campus, not even in eye sight of the campus main entrance where public city buses dropped off adult students. Then at Western Michigan University, where my son was enrolled (and later graduated from), we were again given 2 days only to be on campus (one a very rainy day), with again a designated area to stand, far away from the busiest public sidewalks. Not blocking or disrupting in any way, no table even. Both of these massive large campuses are obviously open to the public, but not to a local property owning resident who wished to distribute for free specially produced student Bibles- the exact same books that were literally distributed elsewhere in the millions of copies. I hope those unreasonable restraints on religious expression have been now removed by public universities, no doubt I'd faced less restrictions if I were simply handing out 🍕 pizza chain coupons. "Open minded" American publically funded universities were actually trying to ban distribution of the #1 produced book in human history to its' adult students. Thank you David French for your work.
If someone wanted to set up a stand distributing copies of Atlas Shrugged (technically not a religious text) would you object to them being treated the same way?
Is the objection that you were treated unfairly or was it that you were not being given privileges and priority?
4:05 If religious institutions want to use public facilities and public funds they should pay taxes. That's not an overcorrection, that just fair.
Besides, what happened to render unto Caesar and all that?
Public facilities are available for any group to use regardless of whether they pay taxes. Some of those facilities require a fee, and religious institutions aren't exempt from paying that because it isn't a tax (it's a user fee). Public funds are generally available to address a specific need/purpose. Churches don't get public money just to operate, nor should they. They may get public funds to operate a child care program for low income families, however. But they must also follow the rules that come with those public funds, which often includes no religious education. The same is true for any 501(c) organization.
5:10 "Blasted open access..." French is alluding to cases he worked on as an attorney for FIRE. Using these examples of how free religious interests are "now" versus "before" is misleading. The United States has been the most religiously diverse nation on Earth. It didn't get that way only after French and others won their cases...
There is no religion in the United States that's under threat. At least from the government. The issue in my opinion. The people who use religion as a weapon. They think that calling themselves Christian gives them the right to judge. Many evangelicals want to stand in judgment of those who don't look like them or agree with them. The evangelicals who say God sent trump to save us. I have read the Bible God sent Jesus to save anyone who asks for forgiveness. I'm certainly not saying all evangelicals. But it's not hard to clearly see the people who have no interest in what the Bible teaches. They are quick to quote scripture but that's about it. In my opinion many who support trump do so because they think he gives them the right to judge. And they judge harshly. The threat is the evangelicals who have raised trump to be the chosen one. According to the Bible I read that is blasphemy.
He's become their Golden calf. 🫤
The ones who like Trump are just religious people, not real christians, like Paul, Peter and the Church that you find in the new testament...this people in USA are fleshy and materialistic and they don't want to lose any of the matetial things that they own and they want to be more powerful than the Church of Rome and That other religion than reing in the middle east. Just tell one of those pastors and church leaders that promote Trump in USA to move and to be ministers in a country like Haiti or a poor country, they will say NO. Why because they are love position, prestige, and riches, they same things they don't want to lose. 😮😢😮
Well said!
Very good, thank you!
How ironic that followers of the most courageous individual who ever lived, spend all their time crying and complaining about how persecuted they are. It's beneath contempt.
I can’t imagine how you feel about the Jews then
Makes you think are they TRULY followers of Christ?
There will be many people who make the claim of being followers but their claims will be revealed to be untrue.
Matthew 7:21-23
@@bobbobberson5627 Not a fan of common sense? What a shame.
@@toreyhorton1789 I'm inclined to feel the same way. Peace.
@@DebKC-bj9joI’ll be honest, I am totally and utterly opposed to groupthink bandwagoning (“common sense”) as a way of making decisions.
Common sense is not reliable.
Thank you for featuring the one and only David French!
Religious organizations should be taxed, and they can get deductions for all services provided to their community that don’t require membership or a religious belief. Jesus would want that.,
Religious liberty is great as long as abuse and enslavement is outlawed here. To now, "religions" can do whatever they please to people.
Religious beliefs, philosophical ideas, political ideologies, identifications with race, ethnicity, nation, religion, etc., act like a filter that limits, shapes, and colors all perceptions...therefore, preventing Clarity. Moreover, they feed the illusion of division and separation from everyone and everything, which breeds conflict, violence, and suffering, which prevents True Love, Peace, Happiness, or Creativity, in each and every moment of daily life, 24/7. See the danger.
Greatly appreciate this!
TL;DR - David French fights the cultural battles of 25 years ago...and declares victory
Nah, he’s undermining the fearmongering that is the basis of Trump’s campaign.
@@Justanotherconsumer I have no idea what "fear-mongering" you're referring to...
@@natrious9601consider for example his comments in Nashville in February of 2024 that the left wants to “tear down crosses and cover them up with social justice flags.” Hardly an isolated incident.
Hilariously he even admitted that Mussolini-like governments attempt to co-opt and control churches, which is exactly what he appears to be doing.
Thank you!
2024.10.07 Vice President Kamala Harris defends US military aid to Israel which soared to a record $17.9 BILLION over the past year
We compete on the basis of ideas. The concepts of Christianity are easily better than any other religion. In Christ, we need only confess our sins rather than pay for them. It is so beautiful.
Thank you. Excellent balanced words of truth.
Love this, but may need a simpler version 😬
Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt NOT #KILL"
Israel’s latest operations [including pager bombs and missile strikes on civilian targets] have been costly: More than 1,000 Lebanese have been killed, 6,000 wounded, and as many as a million displaced in recent weeks, according to Lebanese government officials.
Hezbollah’s recent attacks [focused on military targets] on Israel - largely missile strikes - have meanwhile left at least eight people wounded in the last week.
You are correct thst public schools should bot have compulsory prayer or scripture reading. However they also should not ban these. Schools have since become openly hostile to Christian and Jewish faiths.
Now on to the work place. Private businesses and schools should be free to enforce their beliefs in the work space which is no longer the case.
So, you fully agree with him.
Do you have specific examples of what you mean by "schools have since become openly hostile to Christian and Jewish faiths"?
Not sure what he could be referring to regarding Christian attacks. However, I believe the Jewish “attacks” in schools might be related to the condemnatory backlash some students at universities have launched toward Israel due to the current political and human rights situation that exists there.
Do those students not have the right to express their freedom of speech in that manner?
Why not focus on violent WS who entered places of worship in the US and ended the lives of those who were peacefully gathered to give praise to their god?
Church in Charleston
Synagogue in Pittsburgh
Both perpetrators were professing Christians.
Has that ever happened? Can you point to any cases of public school students being prevented from either praying or reading their religious texts? For wearing a hijab, a yarmulke, or temple garments?
@jimm8619 Google is a wonderful resource and having kids in school bringing teachings home also help
If you take away the right the lord has given me to tell you what to do, then you are persecuting me.
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@@walkingmountain22 stay away from kids
I'm just going to invoke Poe's Law here
@@AnotherCraigright there with you.
You guys are the best! Thank you!
Ross is the man! Loved that he was quoted here!
Jesus: “I have not come to bring peace, but a sword.”
A comment worth reading in context.
Jesus is not saying “go hit people with swords” He is simply saying He’s going to ruffle some feathers and that’s very much intentional.
Consider turning this into a movie called “God’s not dead 5 - nobody is trying to kill him, we were just being a bit over-dramatic cause that Hercules guy needed work, but people went to see it and it got out of hand 🤷♂️”
Just to clarify, I know you aren’t affiliated with GND, I just thought this was a rational counterpoint.
Also, I enjoy your videos, but need to admit that originally I was suspicious that Phil needed to fill the Friday spot and couldn’t resist the pun 😅
my friend, an evangelist and pastor, spent 400 days in a security prison without a trial. He finally got released and reunited with his wife and kids after they could not find any sustainable accusations. You need to open your mind and stop being political defending blindly your personal preferences. Don't be naive.
In the US?
In China this is typical sadly, but we’re not talking about China.
@@Justanotherconsumer I was a missionary in china. But this happened in the US, under this administration. Sick
Details, please? A link to a story outlining the case?
January 6th?
@@bethrossiter1857 Nope ruclips.net/video/CkqQPQlu-44/видео.html
Remember, "religious freedom" isn't the "freedom" to enforce your religion on others!
It should give you pause that churches get exemptions from ANTI-discrimination statutes.
Then the state would dictate religious practice rather than them being free
@@robertguidry2168 I think the exemption is a good thing. But it's still interesting that it is necessary!
@@aosidh Basically, it's so that religious institutions are not forced to hire people opposed to their religious beliefs. Personally, I think it should be explicitly expanded to ALL employees of a religious organization, not just those in "ministerial positions.
@@timkumpost6036 So all you would have to do to discriminate legally is declare that your company is religious? I think you're saying the quiet part out loud.
@@aosidhthat’s the goal.
Gotta get those “whites only” signs back up somehow.
No religious institution should have access to any public funds…PERIOD! If you want to engage in public commerce, you should take any paying customer…PERIOD!! Get over your gay hate. I don’t care what YOU think the Bible says, OTHER people think it says something different. Stop being snowflakes. & future VP Walz says “mind your own damn business!”
@@jeffs9850 sassy take. Your bf must be proud.
@@bobbobberson5627 Sassy response. Are you proud of yourself? Because it's clear that no one else is.
@@3eyedcyclops source?
@@bobbobberson5627 Can you name one person who is proud of your online antics? Not without lying, you can't. And I understand that you're too ignorant to even be able to imagine that anyone knows anything you don't. But some people - unlike you - know what inferential reasoning is and how it works. Some of those people will also know that nobody goes on the internet and says the kinds of dumb things you say because their life doesn't suck. And from that knowledge and your own words, those people can easily infer that your life sucks.
Moreover, it isn't Haitian immigrants' fault that your life sucks. Nor is it cat ladies' fault that your life sucks. It's your fault. And by blaming them for your problems, you're only making your life suck even more. You would see that for yourself if you didn't lack the capacity for self-honesty, self-reflection, and self-awareness required to see it.
Did Phil get a new haircut?
Stop stereotyping me David
COVID much?
Well, if it's not in danger. That's good.
This guy has zero credibility.
courageoustruthpodcast8836 has zero credibility.