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the actual surprising thing is that anyone believed them in the first place
Gay is our word. Gay means happy. We need our language back. The correct term is a stack of wood.
Same goes for the rainbow symbol which they stole.
Guess what. No one did only republicans had that in their mind to make themselves feel better when Disney flops. No one had ever gone "im watching Disney for being inclusive" no people go "well at least a company is showing gay people"
@@TheBelrick Why aren't you saying the same with every word ever. You just admitted yourself being homophobic.
@@argumentumadhominem3977 what was the symbol of a rainbow? There was none and if there was its different from every culture lol. Just admit you hate gay people.
It concerns me that anyone would be surprised by the fact the the multi billion corporate entity doesn’t give a sht about anyones personal feelings.
I thought every company exploiting pride month was already clear on that.
Even The Boys made fun of it before leaning to one political side.
@@abrahammesrajecorrea2349 Unfortunately the NPCs are making pride month bigger than Xmas.
The left worships corporations. It's weird. It used to be the right was more pro-corporate, now it's the total opposite.
These corporations are like parasocial daddy figures for lib-left types
@@littleluxia Not true at all. You only think this because pride is pushed down everyone’s throats during that month, in reality there’s a fraction of the people celebrating it compared to Christmas or any other major holiday.
No one has thought this. No one has either said "let me watch Disney for how woke they are" all people have said at least a company is showing gay people. hate to break it to you they will still show gay people. sorry thats devastating to you.
"Riley has imaginary boy friend generator in her brain."
"Great! Now, let's make her gay."
"WOHT."
"Being straight is just a phase, she is actually born lesbian." -🏳️🌈🤡
Litteral shock therepy lol.
Makes absolutely no sense. Basically shoving it down your throat.
Thing is he was imaginary 😂 lol
im not defending Disney, and i haven't seen the second one so i don't know how they portray it but you could explain that with puberty, i didn't know i was bisexual till i was 14
>Pander to a minority group
>Minority group loves it
>Majority doesn't bother with it as it's not "for them", like the minority advocates keep saying
>Project fails because only $1 million worth of them watched something that cost $500 million to make
"Must have been the bigotry"
As it turns out, pandering to smaller groups and actively destroying the large fanbase you already have, is not conducive to significant business growth. Who knew.
I don't understand how making a lesbian couple kiss for half a second in lightyear means the movie is only for that specific minority group.
@@Ansem_SOD13 The movie itself was probs just bad or just missed the mark since I and Id assume a smaller set people even remember the buzz lightyear cartoon.
Worst part is the "minority" audience didn't support it, either. They didn't see it, and they didn't care. They care about the self-righteousness that comes with association.
Modern audience is a myth that doesn't exist.
@@zackkirako8574 The quality of the movie isn't what's being argued here. This comment specifically talks about the pandering to a specific group, which in this case is really just a half second kiss between 2 women that can easily be missed if you happen to look away for a second.
If it went the live action snow white route where snow white is not only played by a woman who obviously doesn't have a skin color similar to snow white (literally named after her skin) but also "not gonna be saved by the prince" like Rachel Zegler said, and instead force the "women strong, men useless" view down people's throats the comment would have had a point. It's just not the case here. That single kiss was not the focus. It wasn't pandering. It was only a tiny bit of representation. It happens in real life.
Disliking a movie because you believe the quality isn't there is totally acceptable. Disliking a movie because of a short peck on the lips by 2 women is rooted in prejudice.
Who would have thought that hyper targeting a small subset of you consumer base would alienate people...
I swear to God, everyone has had it with Disney trying to pander with LGBT agenda down people’s throats rather than making a good fucking movie.
Not only disney but yea 😂.
I don't like it because Disney bends over backwards to appease China who violates human rights every single day I don't want a company that does that shoving any message down my throat
They ruined one of the best franchises ever. They are dead to me
The chief consumer of Disney shows/movies prior to all this was the nuclear family with kids. Why they thought catering to the 10% (realistically 1% that's obnoxious and vocal) was a good idea money-wise is an astounding oversight.
Especially when Disney bends over backwards to appease the Chinese government who violates human rights every single day
Honestly having a strong focus on who's gay or not is a major problem itself
I'm gay and I agree. It's the biggest actual issue. No one likes to be pandered to. V for Vendetta has a couple fantastic gay characters and I love it. Horizon forbidden West has aloy forced to be gay and elisabet is gay and there's a moment where a one-off character is like teehee I'm so gay and I hate all three
was it a strong focus in lightyear? i didnt see it but i feel like there wouldve been a lot more outrage if it was
Because corrupted people want to corrupt more people, that's why the Creator himself made laws about it so to not spread. Look at Keffals as an example giving hormones to kids.
Look at finister as an example of how NO ONE is "born this way" they are BRAINWASHED into becoming degenerates, and influence WILL MAKE IT HAPPEN, specially with kids. And they KNOW IT. They are just evil.
@@1c0nic_playerthere wasn’t really a outrage of having a lgbt kiss in the movie it was more of the fact that it didn’t feel like a Toy Story film or light year movie
@@freedomwriter9688 yeah, that's what i heard about it
Removing 1 kiss doesn't make something that's mediocre not mediocre.
At least potentially 30+ country can watch it. My country ban the whole movie because of that kiss.
Hahaha hahaha, wait you're serious
HAHAHAHAHA
It doesnt but it proves the point
Disney doesnt care so everytime they claim to care they're full of shit and the people that buy into them dont care either they just want regular people yo be mad
The kiss doesn't matter that much, what happened is that people expected a buzz light-year movie and we instead got a love story with characters nobody knew/wanted with buzz in the background. I saw it opening week with my nephews and can't even remember the name of the other characters.
you'd be surprised how many people will like even a bad movie if it doesn't have LGBT controversy.
It's not about values and it's not just about greed. It's about relatability and most people still see a same-sex kiss as an ick.
No they don´t, they just don´t like the attitude behind it in these days. Never heard a bad word about "The Birdcage" e.g.
No I found it disgusting. I think a lot of people are gay to drive some disturbing sex kink
If it doesn't fit into the story of a character it will be boo-ed. Simply as. I don't mind a character's sexuality as long it make sense, fits into the story and it is not there just so they get tax relief and not being shoved down our throat.
most people are childish brats who never grow up and just people live their lives. If gayness is an ick to you, then the problem is your archaic world view.
@@effect0031bruh why do you care about some background characters sexuality so much?
Large companies never cares about anything, but money.
Classic.
But for some reason, those "groups" never learn that corporations are not their ally
The irony is them thinking they would somehow make more money solely off a minority group than the rest of the world.
Except the agenda keeps losing them money yet they keep pushing it anyway.
They remove it from a single movie so that you give them money for it, then they use that money to make other movies that have it.
then why do they step on the same rake for so many years
@@celvinardenwu5382 Yup, those companies always did "that" in that month of the year and they (that "friendly alphabet community") still got deceived and ok with it, it's been years and they still never learn
Don't forget that (reliable) reviews for Lightyear were generally bad and they booted Tim Allen from the role. The movie had no legs to stand on, including shoving in the messaging stuff.
They pretty much soured the reception of the movie from that point on, cause it became political, when it didn't need to.
*role
Lol who tf puts clown chris Evans 😂😂
Tim Allen is Buzz Lightyear.
Whenever i heard that tim allen wasnt being the voice actor i wasnt going to watch that movie idk how you do that to a character after 30 years of being that character makes no sense to me and just a hard change to see pass
If anyone needs an *MILLIONAIRE CORPORATE MOVIE* to feel represented or valid their sexuality instead of watching/playing/reading other media that actually *MAKES YOU FEEL REPRESENTED* its your fault
Why would someone want to feel "sexually validated and represented" from a movie or a cartoon at the first place. What a pathetic existence and a creep behavior
Except the issue is that they are blaming gay kiss for the movie being utter shit. Gay people exist, and you can have gay people in movies/games without it being a problem. Baulders Gate 3 is a good example. and Owl House was a good show but they canned it once the main character started showing feelings for another female character and forced them to end it on the last season with not even a full season.
forced gay characters are always terrible. showing gay people exist in your movie doesn't mean its going to flop. Disney has just always been anti lgbt and would rather use it as an easy escape goat then actually look into why something was a flop. Owl House wasn't a flop but they canned it anyway.
Baulders gate lmao
So that means you would be completely fine if every character from every franchise in the world stopped being straight and white, right? Since you don't need the representation, you would be fine if there was no character to represent you, right?
@@tpfoxCastroNo, you don't get it.
Disney never cared. The Owl House was a very popular show they had, the main character was gay, there was a gay kiss in it, and Disney butchered the season 3. Took it from over 10 half hour episodes to 4, single hour long episodes. Its not because it wasn't doing well, they just straight up did not want it. They've never actually cared, just like every other corporation.
The W behavior a company did
Good job Disney. Unironically.
@@finfrog3237 why?
I think TOH was/is watched by adults and teens, not kids.
@@saadsami8860but it was like their most popular show at the time. They would just be losing money from that decision
This basically proves that Disney has the power to delete wokeness from their properties, but they choose not to pretty much all the time.
They only remove it for the foreign market because it heavily impacts their bottom line.
why would they? they're for the money, if they make no money, they will move to next flag, be it ukraine, palestine, w/e gives em money, if AI becomes a huuuuuge trend the next movie will be about AI, obv lol... imagine for a second Disney having feelings? like... mr frozen potato disney? XD
@@suziechapstick8236
Companies are paid to be "woke". Why many come out and do it when in reality its better to never pick a side.
People who control the money are forcing it.
@@bobshanery5152 who pays them for this agendas?
I don't remember watching a movie or a tv series that doesn't have lgbt bs for a long time now... I'm not American btw.. what's the percentage of americans that supports this..?
I feel there's some kind of incentive to force wokeness by some unnamed billionaires trying to change society's values for some reason
Reminder: Florida never had a "don't say gay" bill. They have a "Punish teachers who can't stop talking to kindergartners or 1st & 2nd graders about sex" bill, nowhere in the bill does it even have the word "gay."
@@retchie7355The bill is called "parental rights in education act". Where tf do you get your news 😂
@@retchie7355 sanest bronie response
Its really a "parents are upset that their children learn stuff that they themselves are uncomfortable with and so they´d rather file lawsuits than deal with their kids maybe asking them awkward questions". Its not about children. Children can be taught about this stuff at a young age without problem if its done right (that said, because its america ofcourse that also has to be taken into weird extremes). None of you care about the children. You all just don´t want your weird "values" to be questioned.
Wait is Sex Education still Legal in Florida?
I feel like having Sex Education in Schools between ages 15-20 is very important to reduce Teenage Pregnancy and STDs
Since a lot a people refuse to wait until Adulthood to have Sex so having Sex Education is very important to make thoses people Who refuse to wait have Safe Sex
@@retchie7355 okay groomer
I just want the .1% to stop being the 100% in everything.
They were 6 million, or so they claimed.
Weirdos@@h.hristov
@@h.hristov which is 0.0075% of an 8 billion global population.
@@h.hristov They claimed, and claimed, and claimed... 16 or so times before it stuck.
@@h.hristov And most of that can be attributed to -tism
Light year wasn’t a failure because of the gay kiss. It was just boring and had nothing to do with the established character of Buzz Lightyear
For the record I didn't watch it because of the kiss...
@@SonGoku-tp8gb or the fact that it had lesbos in general
Bro, a lot of people didn't even give the movie an opportunity because of the lesbian kiss. I don't know what you're talking about
I also don’t and won’t watch it because of the kiss
@@AndresMartinez-yo4ecAnd you don't see how dumb that is? That people are so against gay people existing they'll throw a temper tantrum?
They removed the kiss in lightyear for CHINA. foreign countries arent going to show a movie with that
Sad that we will.
ain’t going to work in a muslim country or a country that has a negative perception of lgbtq
@@MamaMOBnot really
They had to remove it since china is still their mine 😂
@@MamaMOB uh oh the gays are coming! they're gonna give you cooties!
So let me get this STRAIGHT, the first movie had Riley as not gay cause she had a crush on a boy. But the second movie had to tone down all the LGBT themes cause of how gay they made her? But people will still act like there isn't a gay agenda. Why are we trying to add lesbian themes in kids movies??
Social reproduction
inclusivity
They didn't change her. Disney said to not put LGBT in the movie.
They don't like population
@@paulodelima5705and look at how successful it is? 1.6B worldwide. You think they’d have made that putting gay stufff? lol not a chance
If you think kids should care if you're gay, I think you should be investigated.
Someone check their computer files and browser history😱
@@littleluxia grow the fuck up.
@@bipolarminddroppingsbut it is abnormal and nothing will change that fact.
@@bipolarminddroppings lets not forget the forced representation the more you force and scream the more they will pushback
@bipolarminddroppings It is extremely abnormal for kids to wonder about such things. Also, quit with the "representation" absurdity. Most kids try to emulate people and actions that they see.
People are tired of having to see a representation of 3% of the population IN EVERYTHING.
Blacks are 13% of the population and they're every mc now in shows and games. They're in every commercial. They're always dating white or Asian women. Who could be pushing this on everything? Hmm.
lmao the freaky weirdo staff threw a fit when upper management decided a children's movie wasn't the right vehicle for a same sex kiss.
Maybe just maybe a children's movie isn't the appropriate medium for that.
that's what turns them on, it's no secret
@@BackupRealthat was funny
People are not upset that Pixar threw a same sex kiss in the scene. To me people are upset because Disney uses forced diversity in their movies so they can appeal “the message” instead of having good writing and a decent story.
Which I can understand since it’s just pure lazy and tiresome.
@@ethanschaeffer7718no bro... People are upset because it's have that kinda sht people just want a normal relationship in a kid film that's it,of course a good story too but if there is something like same sex kissing Even though the story is good it still bad because it's a children movies
The gay kiss hurt it, but not remotely as much as the decision to not cast Tim Allen. Profoundly stupid choice to even think about making a Buzz Lightyear movie without Tim Allen signed on. They took everyone's Toy Story nostalgia and took a huge shit on it.
It also has lore for light-year they could've used too from the cartoon
My last comment was removed I guess I don't see it.
They had lore from the lightyear cartoon they could've used but they chose not to use it wtf. Also the reason they refused to hire Tim Allen was because he is a trump supporter
what hurt it was the idea to make it. terrible idea at conception. it's on the same level of the paramount people deciding to make a movie in the flavor of wonka about the wizard Bertie Bott inventing his every flavored bean. literally who gives a sh1t
And rebooting the story of the star command, idk, I would like to see Mira Nova, Booster and XR than that crew of the movie, specially the pen guy
Bullshit, it failed because it was banned in tons of countries due to the kiss. Also most people don't care about the voice actors.
Its almost like most people aren't gay... crazy
And people just want to watch movies instead of shameless political messages/pandering. Just good stories
Disney can make good movies with gay characters in them the problem is they can barely make it happen
Watch out, Dustborn teaches that not wanting political content in entertainment is nazi behaviour. You don't wanna be a nazi, do you......?
i mean.. they shouldn't be?? its 2024 just pick a gender DAMN
gay = low box office returns because you are pandering to unreal ppl
We just want a normal movie anyone else agree 👍
Underline that "normal".
@@Taehc I assume normal normal, not a synthetic man type of normal
@@Taehcevolution across all animals didn't happen from being gay, so not being gay is normal.
Ye
Put a chick in it and make her gay
Replacing Tim Allen was the beginning of the end for that movie
Yes and who wanted this anyway
Trying to convince us you aren't lying to yourself on that one? The movie fell on its face in the third act, not because of a different VA.
@@Quyzbuk86 alot of people including me didnt even watch the movie because of the replacement. if the movie was just bad it wouldve still made more money
@@xerol333 That's really not a good reason to avoid something entirely. And if I'm right in assuming Tim Allen's politics had something to do with it as well (because let's be real, that was the ACTUAL reason for a frankly upsetting number of people), you're going to be watching very little for the foreseeable future.
@@Quyzbuk86You say this as though there aren’t already hundreds of things made every day that aren’t watched. There are dozens of media that aren’t woke being made regularly (particularly in the Eastern world), so it isn’t difficult to find something they like. So what if this random commenter will “watch very little”? Better to watch fee things that they love than a bunch of slop they find mediocre or maybe even despise.
I feel like saying Lightyear failed because of the same sex kiss and not because it was a dogshit movie is a major cope out
and yet the movie they took the woke shit out of made them a ton of money. And let wokolyte failed. And yet concord failed. and yet dustborn failed.
Take the L. This woke shit is coming to and end. Just pray the pendulum doesn't swing all the way back to the 40s.
The wokeness is more a symptom than the root cause. Gay kiss in itself barely matters. It's that the authors think they are some kind of heroes and its their job to push a political message instead of a good movie. That's the real issue. Same for Star Wars, same for Rings of Power, same for a lot of series, video game and media. Narcissist and overly confident producers
The thing isn't about the message but they way it's being spread, having things there just to appeal to a group feels forced, the reason I like Toy Story isn't because it shows a conservative movie about talking toys but because it was a good movie period, meanwhile we have garbage that is terrible and we get told we should like it because "girl power" or "be an ally" fck that, I like things that I like and I dislike things I don't simple as that, no matter how inclusive it may be the Acolyte is still bad, no matter how diverse Concord tried to be it was still a mediocre game that only appeal was "we make ugly ass characters so you should feel identified or support the cause"
During the south park special I saw a bunch crying about the making it a chick or gay part but no one once commented about the making it lame part, I love how some like to fill their chest with pride and say they're as talented and what not but when the time comes to prove it they don't dare to make their own original stuff, NAH let's piggyback out of a stablished franchise.
@@sn5806 A movie can have a gay kiss and be good. There’s nothing wrong with a gay kiss. There is a problem when a gay kiss takes priority over making a good movie. You can have a good movie and have a gay kiss inside said movie
Movie having a gay kiss would prevent it being allowed in cinemas in many countries.@@Themooman29
Imagine thinking that in your shitty written movie, that ruins entire characters and their personality, the gay kiss was the issue. Nothing else. not the writing. not the movie itself. not the messaging. the kiss.
I mean, Riley had a crush on a boy before. Now that I said it, where's that boy? He's just vanished in the sequel.
Thank god
@@ash3878 What?
@@ash3878Weird for you to believe in God when you're against a straight relationship
he never existed, he was a dream guy not some kid she went to school with and wanted to date
Ohh yeah didn't that boy are also one of the reason why the first movie plot happened in the first place
Lightyear wasn't a failure for this. The story was bad and forgettable. All the characters were boring. Buzz was an bumbling idiot instead of a chad. All the characters were annoying and weird, like the kids you would try not to talk to during lunch break. This is executives trying to pin failure on a current issue instead of recognizing that their product at its core is shit.
it still shows their true colors
Really? I thought it was a pretty good movie for what it was. The characters were a bit annoying, but Buzz himself basically was played as a hero who sacrifices his own happiness to try to help others around him and accomplish something greater.
I don't tend to watch animated movies in recent years, let alone Disney movies, but I feel like this movie gets way worse of a reputation than it deserves.
@@echomjp One of its major problems was immersion breaking. Andy watched this movie. A kid from the 90's. No kid liked this movie to go out and want toys from it.
@@Oh-Ben I think that's a bit silly honestly to base the quality of the movie on, and I'm not even sure I agree. But it isn't like I think it's some masterpiece, so I don't feel like defending it much. I'm honestly just really surprised that so many people apparently hate it so much - I'm betting the vast majority haven't even seen it and are just piggy-backing on the majority opinion so they can boost their ego.
At worst it was mediocre slop, at best it was a somewhat charming and engaging film.
@@echomjp It breaks everything Toy Story itself set up. Everything. And Toy Story didn't set alot up. Like the dumbest plot twist, I'm you but from the future. You could smell the pretentious writing. What Kid would find Zerg cool after that?
0:15 I didn’t go see it because they didn’t get buzz’s voice actor *for some reason* and gave it the side eye but then I also heard all the bs
Same. They went with Evans and not Tim Allen completely based on politics. I like Evans also, but Tim Allen should be the only choice while he's alive
It didn't help that Minions 2 came out around the same time. And it had a better story.
I didn't go see it because why would I? It's an old franchise from my childhood. They should make something original.
There are a thousand reasons why Light-year failed
But nooo, it was definitely the gay kiss, yeap, all on the gay kiss, it would have definitely been a blockbuster if it wasn't for the gay kiss
It has nothing to do with the BORING story, BORING characters, LAZY writing. Nope, it's all the gay's fault
Lightyear was a failure because it wasn’t Buzz Lightyear of Star Command. That’s really it, it’s that simple. You know, the cartoon (that also had a movie) that was about Buzz Lightyear. The cartoon that would make a kid like Andy want to buy a Buzz Lightyear toy.
Like, bloody hell, Disney owns Star Wars now. They can do the Luke Skywalker / Darth Vader dynamic with Buzz and Zerg with absolutely no issue now!
Lightyear was a movie solely relying on its IP, made for adults who watched Toy Story when they were younger, trying to be a serious and realistic space drama instead of being fun and having anything to do with Buzz Lightyear. I say that, but anytime Buzz said one of his iconic lines, a character in the background would tell him how dumb and stupid that was. Why make the decision to write that into the script? Who was this film made for again?
It was a bad film, and I don’t know why corpo’s have trouble admitting something they created was just bad. 1 lesbian kiss isn’t going to kill a good movie.
A good game with an homosexual character? Deon from FF16.
A good animated film with a homosexual character? The jock from Paranorman.
You can have gay characters in your media that isn’t about relationships, and it still be a good thing.
Now saying that, the above characters work because it isn’t their whole bloody identity. It’s just a natural part of the character and it’s not a focus at all. Doesn’t feel shoehorned in. Have a coherent story, have entertaining and/or likeable characters, and no one will give a damn about that characters race or preferred sex.
No, you don’t NEED representation. If it’s present and it feels natural, and not just for brownie points; swell.
If you think you need to see representation of yourself in what is meant to be children’s media to feel validated about your life, you need to work on your mental state.
Even to this day, they call it the "don't say gay" bill, when it never uses that word even once.
now you know anyone who calls it that is just a mindless NPC
It proves the person saying it has never read the bill or even knows what it's all about.
That’s how propaganda works
Just like you guys call the Trump shooters democrats? Yes, I assumed your political beliefs and I'm 100% certain I'm correct about them, and that someone else bu*thurt by this comment will reply in your stead.
Obamacare isn’t called Obamacare. It’s to get across a message in a short space, people don’t care enough to have policy discussions
"Don't say Gay" Bill: Don't take class time to talk about gender or sexuality (including straight) until grade 4 when it's more age appropriate. If student have questions they can ask their parents.
LGBT community: How dare you!!!!
Ya if you actually think about the bill it makes sense, a child below that age doesn't need to know about sexuality or any such things at that point, as it doesn't affect their lives until closer to puberty where it would. Gender I would say is a seperate matter but its not really a big issue until puberty actually starts, so 4th grade a still a decent age to teach it.
Normal people: Being a PDFile is wrong.
LGBT community: This is an attack on me!
Grade 6* fixed that for you.
The fact that the Bill is called that by media and DEI types instead of the real name of the Parental Rights says a whole lot about their agenda.
The problem is the people who made the term don't say gay are really good at making propaganda titles like that. I don't even know the real name of the bill but it should of been. "Don't give access to books with instructions to pre-teen children in schools on how to take a member up the out pipe."
Don’t forget that Disney made blk people in overseas posters disappear for Marvel and Star Wars
They made black Ariel blue in the live action movie posters in China
I mean, anyone that's surprised about disney doing that are absolutely stupid.
And the wild part is that there are actually people who got surprised about it.
@@AppalachianMountaineer1863 I know what you're referring to, but they didn't. Also, if you had bothered to do your research, you'd also know that those posters were used in America and rest of the world.
I’ll be honest, I don’t really buy it. If Disney said to they want “less gay affection” in their movies, then why do they keep pushing it in Star Wars and other movies? I just see this as them trying to save their skin.
Do they? Or are you just too fragile for the world 😂
I'd rather watch the old, classic Disney nostalgia over today's garbage in an instant.
"Internal staff uproar" sounds right. Activists have crept into artist positions and are gatekeeping people out of them.
I don't buy the line about leadership being bullied into doing what the lowly staffers wanted. Disney made the people that play characters at their park where communal underwear to avoid it bunching up and showing through and only stopped after several (not one, but several) crabs outbreaks. Leadership tells the staff what to do; it doesn't flow the other direction.
I think imagining them as middle management is more accurate
Hope they are fucking fired by now
You forgot something editor. Inside out 2 is the most profitable animated movie of all time. It beat Super Mario.
Disney has consistently lost money on all their animated features that tried to push LGBTQ, Strange Worlds, Lightyear and Elemental.
The reason this came to light was because of unhappy staff within Disney complaining that Disney did what they could to make Inside Out 2 as family friendly as possible.
Wait sorry maybe i just dont remember but what LGBTQ thing was Disney pushing on Elemental?
Disney has lost money since avengers ended. Elemental made money .
@@drakeb2553 I think was one character, one of the water guy family was revealed to be a "fluid" gender
@@ivanelugo ohhhh ok no wonder i forgot lol
All it needed to do was STFU about gender.
They think Lightyear failed because of THAT? Talk about delusional. Asa far as I can tell, no one cared about the kiss. Some people were annoyed at yet MORE pandering to the LGBT crowd with those two gay characters being shoehorned in, but I don't know anyone who was upset about the kiss in particular. They made a shitty movie with themes and a plotline that ran completely counter to the character of Buzz Lightyear from Toy Story, then acted surprised when people were like "What the hell is this?" Man, they will believe literally anything rather than just accept that their financial failures are their own fault.
I like how they chalk it up to it being the kiss that brought that movie down, and not the ugly asf character design, terrible animation style and the fact that they implied that the gay couple birthed a child.... I think people had more of a problem with that last one than the kiss, and that's just because it's a kids movie. Don't confuse kids on basic biology.
Lightyear is already mid, excluding the Lesbo kiss.
Pointing THAT as ths MAIN reason it fails is just scapegoating
I don’t mind tho if it means less of that bs
They're probably trying to shift gears over other projects to stuff that sells. As you see Inside out 2 was steered and we were saved having to see a little girl's attraction to an older girl.
Toy Story is an entire MK Ultra garbage, no children should watch anything coming from pedowood.
Every woman I know who got their bodies used and discarded said they believed in the "disney prince that is popular and would marry them who are not". These movies are pure brainwashing and evil.
Its the usual rage bait from disney
if it means less gay stuff in my media, im all for it.
I never understood why Disney pandered to that crowd. Last time I checked gay people aren't having kids. Guess who takes their kids to see Disney movies.... Straight people with kids!
1 tons of gay people adopt
2 tons of gay people don't want sex/sexuality exposed to young children(these loony activists are a vary small minority that make all of us look crazy)
Straight people with kids aren't scared of two people of the same sex kissing, homophobics are though
100%
Gay people don't adopt?
Lmao, what a clown take 🤣
Adoption and surrogates still exist, gay people can still have children but it's uncommon
Lightyear wasn't a failure because of a gay kiss, it was just a particularly easy point to mock. Straight coping.
why would these animations need to have sexuality at all? i thought they were meant for kids and kids dont need to have any of that in their content
But the alphabet people wants the kid to see all the sexuality.
@@taags yeah. and then uncle Jumba will touch their “souls”
like every kids movie has sexuality bro. heterosexuality is also a sexuality and like 90% of kids movies still have a romance plot
this is why I say that anime is not for children.
anime has a lot of adult content... either violent or sexual scenes.
it's better not to show things like this to children as children are super influenceable...
@@eagleeagle7360 since when Anime is intended for CHILDREN ? lol
if u mean "animation" yeah, some animation have intended for children, but not anime.
They actually lost over $250 million on Lightyear, cuz the theaters keep about half the sales.
So many people keep forgetting that theatres take their cut of box office sales.
It's very annoying that so many people don't understand how the box office works. If only they would use some common sense. If you're a beer company and generate $100m, while the actual production and marketing costs were only $50m, that doesn't mean that you netted $50m in profit. Distributors and retailers take a bit cut too, not to mention your own staffing costs. It boggles the kind that your average person believes that Disney gets 100% of the box office, even not paying income tax on that as well!
@@dereksbooks i didn't know this so the beer company doesn't stop it's sale figure after offloading to the shop?
If it was two Aunt Cass level baddies it woulda boosted sales
hold on, you might be cooking something here...
He's cooking 🗿
Aunt Cass marries elastigirl?
let homie cook 🗿
Nah
My only issue with Asmond’s ideology here is that he calls the ceo’s of Disney artists, the artists are the people who make the animation, not the upper class suits. And knowing Disney, they have no say in this sort of thing
I put a large part of Lightyear's failure on the fact that it could've been an interstellar adventure but instead we got a movie that takes place on the same planet the whole time.
This, a fair portion of the movie was dedicated to watching people age. And Buzz didn't even get his full suit until near the end of the final act. As an action movie and as a kids movie, the cartoon Buzz Lightyear movie was significantly better.
“Notes were then given to animators to make Riley come across as less gay.”
Well of course! She’s a child! She shouldn’t be embracing sexuality or any sexual attraction at her age!
Exactly, let kids do kid stuff
that's what most kids/teens are going through news flash
Tons of kids have girlfriends or boyfriends in elementary school, it's a perfectly normal human thing.
You weren't attracted to girls as a young teenager or something??
@@M1stful Riley is 13, that’s too young.
Lightyear failed because it had very little to do with the original Buzz lightyear lore.
It also lacked soul and charm, I got too bored to finish the movie because I was just watching things happen with no emotion connection to anything
Agreed, and not only that it was a lot less fun to watch than the lore it tried to replace.
And if you compare it with the 1st episode of the Lightyear serie, the serie one was so much interesting with a better message, better characters and better diversity.
Nah it failed because I went to McDonalds instead
The kiss DID have an impact tho. The movie was banned in a bunch of countries just for that 1 kiss alone.
That huge loss reminded Disney that "The customer is always right in matters of taste"
"We insist on sexual romance in our children's movies, and it HAS to be gay!!"
Or, you know, just make a children's movie.
Nobody minded when Bo Peep kissed Woody in the first Toy Story.
@@joycecharbonneau152 , romantic heterosexual relationships promote reproduction and family formation. It's only natural that families would want to consume entertainment that helps reinforce those values. The heterosexual pairing is what creates life and is superior to all other romantic pairings for this reason and shouldn't be sidelined in favor of pairings that don't produce offspring in films marketed towards children (rated G and PG).
I think the term 'sexual romance' is a bit over the top for 2 people giving each other a brief peck on the lips. No one would care if it wasn't same sex.
@@joycecharbonneau152probably because nobody remembers, atleast I don’t lol
@@joycecharbonneau152 Because that's normal and kids will forget. But have same s3x kissing will not make adult forget and know its could ruin children's mind
I honestly couldn't give two shits if there are gay people, or black people, or women lead characters, or whatever. What has always bothered me is that they care more about that than making something good. Also that they replace already existing characters with supposedly marginalised groups in order to basically trick people into watching it. Also that they berate other artists for making their own thing without those groups in them.
I just think that people should write those types of characters into stories only if that's actually relevant to their stories or experiences as a writer that are informing their stories. In other words, they shouldn't get mad at me as a straight white man if I write stories about straight white men. There's an old phrase here that's very relevant, "write what you know". I'll never be able to write a convincing story of what it's like to be black lesbian living in California because I'm a straight white man who lives in England, and vice versa. I'm all for more diverse characters and stories, I just think that it's diverse authors who should be writing them, and that they should do it because they have a story that they really want to tell because they think it's a good story. That's all. I think most people can tell the difference between artists trying to tell us how things should be, vs showing us how things actually are.
One final note, companies _shouldn't_ care about stuff like this. It's best for all involved if a companies primary concern is making money from delivering something people want. It should be up to the people what is successful and what isn't. But that would probably require people actually understanding how capitalism works rather than advocating for an economic system that has never worked and has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.
I agree. Literally what EVERYONE is saying, even me. We don't care or we don't hate the idea of Diversity, we just hate it how its being more of forced than being it natural to the story.
Like, c'mon...it is NOT that hard. -_-
But to be fair there's a bunch of people here who'd still complain about a really well made story being woke even if it had natural diversity.
@@Dalton_Boardman2000 A huge portion of that dislike stems from the fact diversity has been poisoned. They won’t trust that in this certain scenario it truly does make sense.
sadly this kinda of inclusion is almost impossible now thanks to the years of horrible pandering which kinda pushed more and more people to side with the actual bigots and scream woke every time a non straight white character is in a lead role, the world was on its path to being inclusive and diverse back in the 2010s but instead of taking it slow and allowing change to happen these groups had to come in forcing it everywhere and screaming at everyone that dared question it and now its worse off now then it was 30 years ago
Right, they should just go with the motions when making a new character and itll be so much more natural when they make a character from a marginalized group
And yet all her crushes are male and she had a "boyfriend generator" before. She could turn out to be bi, but you won't have people believe that she's not interested in boys.
Bi? Not really. She's just a typical girl who likes boys. Not Bi or not an alien bullcrap.
These days I see more LGBTs trying to erase Bi people
To be fair, Lightyear wasn't terrible because of that relationship, it was terrible because buzz was essentially a background character.
Ikr it's like they're acting like if they removed lgbt that movie would automatically be amazing even though non lgbt disney movies lately still suck. It's like the comment section is reverse woke like they say😅
If lightyear was a good movie, things would have been fine. But it wasn't a good movie. And so, the gay kiss was then made out to be a scapegoat. Honestly, the problem isn't the matter of lgbt being there, it's that it comes increasingly at the whims of artists who want to be seen as, morally superior and dictate what is right. It comes across as forced, not natural. Luca did it justice.
There is fatigue over this stuff.
Also no matter how fine you are with LGBT morally, most people will still find it disgusting physically. No amount of training can make two men kissing something that's easy to watch. When you are not wired that way, you can't see it. And since most of the population is not gay, making the majority of your viewers uncomfortable will have drawbacks.
I mean tbe lgbt thing did contribute globally cause some countries outright banned the movie but the major focus on the relationship was more odd than the existence of it. It kept going back to "if i change things, she wouldn't have met her wife" no other development mattered, that idea had more focus than any of the side characters.
I mean tbe lgbt thing did contribute globally cause some countries outright banned the movie but the major focus on the relationship was more odd than the existence of it. It kept going back to "if i change things, she wouldn't have met her wife" no other development mattered, that idea had more focus than any of the side characters.
Even if it's a good movie, including the propaganda doesn't actually contribute to making it better. The audience has to "tolerate" it, rather than be entertained by it and enjoy it. Even in the best case scenario it's just a net neutral effect.
@@ernimuja6991 Also adults will tolerate it in adult media. But never for children's media because it's so confusing for young minds.
Im gonna be honest, Lightyear didn't fail because of a same sex kiss. It failed cause no one gave a shit about it to begin with. It was a toy story spin off movie that never needed to be made in the first place. It was uninteresting from the start.
Let's be honest, if it was entertaining for kids. Families would have eaten it up, even if it was a blatant cash grab.
Disney of course using "oh because there were gays in it it was bad" when the real problem Lightyear had was being a boring fucking movie. Just bad in general, not what anyone wanted. A 2 second gay kiss scene is literally nothing of any importance. They tried to make an animated Interstellar and it flopped because the MOVIE was bad, not because a 2 second kiss scene.
It *IS* bad to add deviants whose identities is to engage in sexual degeneracy onto movies made for kids.
+ the movie got ban from several countries
They deserve it first time I see the trailer like this my childhood movie and then got ban on my country cause LGBT bullshits scene glad government ban it I almost take my 8 years old nephew watch this propaganda bait
The movie was boring, but the stupid gay propaganda made me hate the movie, if I watched it in theaters, I would have walked out immediately I saw that bullshit
That 2 second clip was actually quite important cause it got the entire movie banned in foreign countries for promotion of western propaganda. And tbh most parents here are happy not letting their kids watch movies filled with subliminal messages.
Nah, the issue is a gay scene in a kids movie. Theres just no place for it, and many countries banned the movie, as well all parents who are straight (which is, you know, all of them) didnt allow their kids to watch it.
The writing is lame and boring, but so is every disney movie ever made but it didnt stop them for being huge successes.
I don't understand why it is so difficult for them to figure out. Most people are not gay and are not interested in seeing anything related to lgbt shit. Tolerating something or not hating it doesn't mean we wanna see it everywhere. You want lgbt representation? Make gay romcoms or some shit instead of making Batman kiss Robin.
Whats worse is the fact that it wasnt even the same sex kiss that caused Lightyear to fail... majority of the bad press behind the film when it was announced and released was due to the fact Disney failed in getting Tim Allen to voice Buzz.... the role he played for many many years previously.... due to the face he supports Trump.
The tolerant left being intolerant, cancelling anyone that's not them.
Mate, all I know about Lightyear is the kiss, that was their marketing, does anyone know anything other than the kiss? no, because they focused on that
They didn't fail to get him. They actively AVOIDED casting him precisely because he was against the kiss scene.
Disney wasn't wrong tho. I mean that single second kiss scene literally got the entire movie banned in many countries.
So that just proves their point.
Asmon’s takeaway from this. “They never cared”. THAT’S THE POINT. They’re not supposed to
They did not lost 150 million, they lost almost every single cent. Box office accounts for the general revenue but it is then cut 50% on average by the theater which collects their share. They lost around 300 million dollars...
I as a parent would not let my child watch any DEI infested nonsense. She's 30 lol
The thing that I hate about all of this is because it's used to cover up bad media by acting as a deflection tool (Oh you hate it because you're a biggot), all of this DEI shit is ruining it for the chance of people actually enjoying media that is well made that has the same topics. Imagine a great work made by Martin Scorsese and it has a black main character or a lesbian main character. Immediately you're questioning why they're there and how bad the film actually is because it's a gut reaction from all of the other bad films we've seen like that. Like if it wasn't being used as a deflection tool and actually gave a shit, if they'd just say "Look I made this story about this character because I wanted to tell a story with a unique perspective. If you don't like it that's fine, it's not going to be for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that. I just hope you'll give it a chance and see if you like it" then no one would be so fucking done with it. Shit, I'm a redskinned injun man with a lesbian mother and an ambiguously gay father (don't ask, I still don't understand it after all these years) and I've always hated this DEI shit because I see it for what it is, deflection for untallented people who don't want to have to make quality work and rather accuse people of hating it of being biggots
The weird bit is that executives were once actually convinced that LGBT was good for profits. I blame the higher education system from valuing indoctrination over understanding argumentation and rhetoric. When people were taught to write their truth rather and to defend arbitrary arguments people lost the ability to think.
1984 in a nutshell
theres nothing wrong with a story having gay characters, but you first need to make a good story or nobody will watch.
@@corberus3119 Absolutely but their is something wrong in being believing that adding lgbt themes into an entertainment product will make is more profitable just because someone gives a powerpoint presentation full of terrible handwaving arguments.
Then again executives should probably let the writers make the scripts and then act as classical executives (defined as making binary choices) and approve the good scripts and nix the bad ones. This was how entertainment used to work back in the day.
@@corberus3119 Sure, but outside anything related to kids.
The same sex kiss was out of place but not a problem. The problem was, is you can't tell me Andy saw that movie as a kid, and wanted the buzz lightyear toy. The movie itself was just boring. If I saw that as a kid I would have fallen asleep or tuned out and went to play NES instead.
Toy Story 1 was in the late 90s I think? There were no visibly gay people in the movies at the time because they had not been invented yet.
@@무군 Correct. Toy Story 1 came out in 1995, 3 years before Will and Grace invented gay people!
@@spqr49gay people have been here before
@@spqr49
Don't be obtuse, you know exactly what he was saying. 90s having an actual gay character that isn't a stereotype was a no-go.
@@Web720 Did you stop for a moment to think if what I said was a joke?
1:08 "as less gay as possible", that's not correct English
What are you talking about, did you hear that accent? That voice created the English language.
Forgive me if I am missing a joke or something of the like, but what would be the correct way of saying it?
what is English?
@@sttlok For example "as far from being gay as possible" or "as straight as possible".
"As less gay as possible" doesn't work because "less" is a comparative, it's used to directly compare two different things (A is less gay than B). But in "as less gay as possible" there's no such comparison. The phrase "as X as possible" expects an adjective or adverb in the middle, such as "as soon as possible" not "as less late as possible".
@@cruz1ale I didn't realize that mistake until you brought it up, nice catch. the proper form would be "as least (superlative) as possible" but even then that's such a rare construction that you shouldn't ever say it.
The failure of Lightyear was that the plot was shit. Like it has like 3 good ideas at most, the rest is bad filler.
The original 2D movie was way better, and it also has a series, go watch that.
The problem isn't the kiss, it's the fact that it is only there for its own sake.
It's not: "Now these two characters should kiss because that makes sense."
It's: "How can we get these two gay characters to kiss."
And now it's: "How can we get two gay characters on screen to make the far-left happy but how can we not make it too gay to keep the far-right happy."
Would it be just magical (Disney level magical) if we could just stop giving a shit what the far-left and far-right care about?
@@happyfase
Tbf, modern Disney does not cater to the far-right. This is a false equivalency. We have FAR more examples of them catering to the left than the right. I would rather them not focus at that at all, but saying that makes you a fascist in the eyes of the Identitarian Left as they hate apolitical spaces or spaces that aren't for them.
I am ok with what the right wants..I'm not ok with the left groomers
why did they even put LGBT in a kids movies at the first place?
Comments like this is why woke propaganda exists.
So they can ruin a generation
@@donkaitoyou're pretty dumb aren't you?
Bruh....
@@donkaito Yeah, but why does woke propaganda exist in CHILDRENS MOVIES.
I've said this on another video, but I'll go ahead and say it again here:
What most corporations fail to realize is that representation in media should feel natural and proper to where these characters feel like they genuinely belong in this world and story. Unfortunately, a lot of representation in media nowadays just feels completely forced and manufactured with the sole purpose of checking boxes. It shows that these corporations don't actually care about DEI at all and are only embracing it just to meet those ESG scores and to appease the likes of BlackRock or Vanguard. Then they have the gall to preach about how much they "care" about equality and inclusivity, but the clear lack of effort they put into actually showing it just reinforces how fake and disingenuous they are, and it makes the people who vigorously defend these corporations look even more pathetic and short-sighted.
Let this be a lesson to anyone who keeps wondering why people complain so much about DEI in media these days. It's not that we hate diversity in general... we just hate how corporate, soulless, and aggressive it's become, when it really doesn't have to be.
You are the most understandable person in this comment section. Representation isn’t so lgbt members are comforted by a million dollar company, it’s for the kids who are equally influenced by parents as they are by movies. To have a representation of some trait so soulless and shallow that it’s ignored by the target audience because they actually don’t know who they’re trying to “help”
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@@radioactiveseaotterpreach 🧴🍵⚔️☕️🎉
Now we know why they put it in. So they can blame their failures on like 1 scene LMAO
The reason Lightyear failed is because most of the movie was poorly written, it tried way too hard to retcon the Star Command show & Toy Story movies, and they didn't bring back Tim Allen's iconic voice, not because of a lesbian relationship that takes up less than two minutes of screentime
True. But it does nonetheless help when they don't try to shoehorn in LGBT garbage into kids movies.
You gotta get the parents to show up with their kids to make it a success, parents heard about the gay kiss and noped. I watched the movie and I liked the visuals, the story wasn't intresting, but I think it could've made enough money to warrent a sequal since kids usually like visuals, and it would've make a billion if the story was better, but I think the parents not taking their kids killed it.
two minutes is a long time for something so unnecessary.
Movie should've been some badass space odyssey with fights, sights, friends and adventure with ACDC blasting half the time. Could've even retconned a Woody character in to some space cowboy planet. Much like any creative narcissist who thinks they know better, they always forget that the rule of cool comes first.
@@judgedread9724it was just a kiss calm down, literally nothing about the movie would change if it was removed and if it was actually good the scene would do nothing to harm it
That is unless you freak out anytime straight people kiss on screen as well
Nah, I completely disagree with Asmond here. Disney does care about their politics, they just toned it back a little (temporarily) after receiving far more backlash then they thought they would. They've been pushing this stuff for YEARS now. There's no way they aren't aware of the amount of failures that these agendas cause. If they really were just pushing politics for the money alone, they definitely would have stopped a long time ago.
Disney didn't do this because they believe in the cause.
There are surely people within Disney that believe in the cause, but it only started to be overt and ubiquitous after shares were tied to diversity indexes, meaning the shareholders would lose more money from the devaluation of their shares for not ticking the boxes than from the product that's being launched failing.
It's always money, in the end, with corpos.
@@avantesma1
Maybe it's just because I don't understand economics, but why would you invest in a company pushing agendas that make themselves go broke? That seems like a lose lose. What kind of shareholder does that? How does a shareholder make money from an investment like that?
@@8thMusketeer
I'm just guessing here but:
-Buy a company, acquire shares
-Announce DEI changes and get funding from the notorious ones
-Knobhead investors think it's a grand idea and buy shares
-Stock goes up
-Sell your shares, knowing full well it's all downhill from here
-Buy a new company, rinse and repeat
Blackrock isn't just a buzzword, they are literally rewarding these companies with massive investments scaling with the amount of DEI they shove in (The entire concept of DEI comes from them, originally DIE but that was too easy to meme). That's literally why it's done so hastily and feels extremely artificial. The movies have been losing money for a long time but it was offset by the investments coming in, only now is it starting to plateau where the movies and marketing are losing so much money that no amount of investments can fix it, as well as their reputation going down the gutter. At the highest level of a public company, every decision is financial.
The gay kiss would be edited out for non North American theaters.
Turns out half of the breeders won't bring their offspring to a movie pushing homosexuality. Who could have seen this coming?
I don't think a single kiss counts as pushing
@@user-mz9xo3hx1h Millions of people see through the ruse.
@@user-mz9xo3hx1hIt does to morons who view any mention of things they don't agree with that isn't explicitly negative as propaganda. In their eyes, the acceptable compromise isn't that people get to exist and live normal lives without being harassed for their sexuality, it's that so long as they can pretend you don't exist they won't make an active effort to root you out. Society should rightly revolve around their feelings and the moment it doesn't, it's over.
@@user-mz9xo3hx1h It's a single kiss after countless attempts in other movies. It is pushing.
Is it not normal for parents to want there kids to be straight and make other kids in the future? 😂
You know what was the most insulting thing TO ME about Lightyear ? The fact that disney dared to use The Black Keys - Lonely Boy for the trailer of Lightyear.
To use THAT SONG for some BS cartoon trailer was beyond insulting to me. I was burning rubber to that song in NFS THE RUN, and it was AWESOME, unlike anything pixar made in the last 10 or so years
0:43 - The movies are not for the company staff. Those people should pay from their own pocket :D
I mean I agree the employes don’t have the right to push the company to make their woke agenda happen, but calling for them to pay out of their pocket is wild.
I hope you are just trolling and not actually advocating for:“Hey Jim remember how you were advocating for the gay kiss? We are taking next two years of your minimum wage to pay for my new boat. That is the only thing that will put this company back on track.”
@@MarvelOfRain use your brain. What he is saying is, if they want to shovel their agenda on people, they should figure out how to do it thenselves, not jam it in disney movies.
No. That's all management fault. They chose to hire these people and affiliations. Let them sleep in the bed they made.
Disney's issue is that they now have an entire workforce that will refuse to do what the execs want and threaten to tank the company from the inside constantly. I hope the ESG score was worth it.
*When I lived in the U.S. as a kid, I really enjoyed Disney movies. I still do. I don’t think the kiss was the problem with lightyear. In Japan, we have lots of lesbian girls in Anime. The only difference is that being a lesbian is not the center of the whole character. It also helps that the girls in Anime are actually attractive*
*Movies with Gay characters don’t fail because they’re gay. They fail because of bad writing and they’re unattractive.*
True
The diference is that in your country is only an anime but in America just become a ideology, where they try to make you gay in real life or make you to think that only because you are not like all of them you are wrong so...
Why did you write in fucking bold?
I prefer to not have such diseases included in the movies
They are not going to say they made a bad movie like Wish in 2023. So they blame LGBT.
The real problem is that I don't remember there's a same-sex kiss in the movie. In fact, I kinda forgot like 90% of what the movie is about. Remember the era when Disney and Pixar movies are instant classics? Guess we'll soon forget that too.
The funny part about this, the same people who criticize you for liking anime and sexy girls who are in their 20's that happen to look young because they're not on the american diet: are the ones who are super obsessed with a 13 year old animated girl being a lesbian.
Do you mean lolis?
Are you trying to confess something?
@@cleverman383 yes that you are a groomer
They hate men for sexualising of age women. But love making little kids kiss 💀
odd thing to bring up bro
Fred Rogers faced serious backlash after having a scene where he and a black cop cool their feet in the same kiddy pool. He really pissed a lot of people off. The difference is Fred Rogers actually cared about taking a stand and didn't back down or renege on his decision.
That was also about racist tensions in the desegregated south. This is about a company pushing gay ideology onto children which I’m sure Fred Rogers would be against can’t really compare the two
Strawman.
It didn’t come off as less gay, it came off as genuine. In Light Year they were stuffing it down your throat, in this it just felt natural.
If they truly cared, they wouldn't always make it a 1.5 second scene that's easily removable for foreign theaters.
No one cares about LGBTQ when you're watching a pixar film! I watch films to forget about the miserable real world with social issues.
The worst part is that i have been in enough time on the Internet to know that if this gets the right among of attention it would cause a dispute where there will be only 3 types:
1: "Dammit Disney, why are you so shity on everything nowdays?"
2: "OMG HOMOPHOBIC DISNEY, NOOOO 😭😭😭"
3: "OMG Based Disney for not giving a shit on gay people 🤡🤡🤡"
4: "I'm leaving this here so people can argue in the replies."
@@Cat_Garfield Yeah that one too
4: Just write a good movie
@@evangingerson1271 Those are probably one the same area as the "1"
If employees want to make your products into garbage then you fire all of those employees and get new ones. You don't pay them to create garbage.
the LGBT artist forgot that the most audience who watch disney movie is kids with their parents.
Looks like they think the kids go alone to the theaters and buy their own tickets xD
They seem to forget, that gays don’t procreate. They are living fossils
People of the rainbow variety (I can’t say the actual thing apparently according to YT) need to understand that the over representation that Disney has been flowering them with isn’t in good faith. It’s gotten to a point where this stuff has become so obnoxious that the hate is spilling more than ever in the real world. Same could apply for people of colour but a bit less obnoxious
We do understand. And most of us think the movies are dogshit too.
bi person here and couldn't agree more, it's getting tiring to see so many companies rainbow washing for the sake of profit, I'd love to see well written characters that happen to be gay instead of mediocre characters being made gay for diversity points
The fake rainbow, rainbows had 7 colors and LGBT Rainbows had 6, and you see now Everytime they show what supposed to be a rainbow on a cartoon, they made it with just 6 colors like the LGBT flag
"Representation" literally does not matter, i just want to be entertained.
@@JC-cm6hz The only truly underrepresented group in every piece of media and in life in general are people with disabilities imo. Regardless, all we want is better treatment in the real world, not this type of stereotypical forced representation
Buzz light year was crap because of the stroy that ruins buzz light year it made no sense
Seems to me Disney leadership made the right call. Lightyear flopped, Inside out was a smashing success.
Correction: Disney has lost almost 260 million dollars on this movie not 150. Why? Because the budget was 373 mil and it only grossed 226 mil at the box office... what people don't know or always forget is that HALF of the ticket earnings go to the theatre airing the movie... The other HALF goes to Disney.
You forgot marketing. They lost at least another 100mil on marketing. Marketing is not a part of the movie budget, the marketing has it's own budget that depends on the sales to get that money back.
@@KingNiros 100% this, they literally made nothing on this film and quite rightly
@@KingNiros I thought of that but the picture the editor showed said "budget for production and marketing".
The issue isn't the gay. The issue is the writing and using the gay as a shield against criticism by strawmanning it as bigotry. Or racism or sexism where applicable.
First sane comment I've seen in this comment section. What people are talking about is hardly even tangentially related.
they care about gays as much as this man cares about cleaning his house
So true. If it was profitable to be nazi, disney would side with nazis, only language they speak is the dollar.
I'm so glad this is all actually happening.
1. It shows Disney's true colors to the blind LGBTQ audience and employees.
2. It deals a massive blow to this idiotic agenda that's been pushed down our throats in almost every form of media.
We don't care for this stuff. Not everything needs to have it. We just want entertainment, not another PowerPoint on how we should be more gay and or inclusive of gays.
If they really only cared about making money, they should try making a good movie or show. Not the tripe they've been making for years.
I didn’t even recall the fact there was a same sex kiss in Lightyear. I barely recall anything about that movie because it was a forgettable bland movie without any of the charm that makes the Toy Story films so well loved
Surely it was the kiss that made Lightyear flop, surely.
Its true though, part of Lightyears failure was because of the gay kiss. There's a lot of people who don't want their children to be taught that from a family movie night, and a lot of people didn't see it because of that. It's a kids movie after all. Not to say that the film would've been miles better, but it definetely would have made more money. Not that gay people are hated everywhere or whatever, but its a issue that people can be divided on.
Honestly, this whole topic coming around just made me reach the conclusion that children-oriented shows (To be more specific, All-Age shows) shouldn't even have [romantic] kisses, IMO. Not even heterosexual ones. At this point I ser this situation very similarly to the whole guns/tobacco situation where we may have been conditioned our entire lives that opposite-sex kisses are fine (With many princess fairytales revolving around it), but even that has a bad connotation that doesn't really add anything to story: In the end, those scenes are only there to make the story more interesting to the adults/teens that are accompanying the children.
I'm not saying that children shouldn't see kisses at all either, but by the time that being exposed to such media makes any sense, they should just go for the young-teen oriented shows at once.
I agree with this especially when current romance and televised romance doesn't seem to have an ounce of similarity anymore with how jaded the dating market is looking.
The only good take in this comment section
Well it depends. Like if it’s a Mum and Dad kissing before one goes to work or something normal. As kids know and see there parents kiss. That is more normal. Showing kids there age kissing and same gender is just weird and forcing stuff on them.
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That's the thing, why complicate? Just ban romantic kisses at once, no child will miss those scenes (Until they're at an age that makes sense for them to be interested in romance, as I said in my other comment). There are a thousand ways to show affection, even a kiss in the forehead would have the exact same connotation on the scene you described and wouldn't annoy a single reasonable soul.