Nürburgring: Power or Handling? 500awhp BMW M140i vs. 230whp Honda Civic Type R

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024

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  • @sergiojimenez3445
    @sergiojimenez3445 3 года назад +160

    Handling is more fun and makes your car safer

    • @Tristan.R.J.M
      @Tristan.R.J.M 3 года назад

      And yourself aswell. Winwinwin

    • @wassilia1234
      @wassilia1234 3 года назад +16

      and makes you a better driver because everyone can go fast in powerful car but only good drivers can go fast with low amount of horsepower.

    • @TheRealDr.Mabuse
      @TheRealDr.Mabuse 3 года назад +1

      @@wassilia1234 NO, not everyone can go fast in a powerful car. Sometime not even in a straight line.

    • @weaksignal8009
      @weaksignal8009 2 месяца назад

      Mr. Chapman & Mr. Honda knew this!

  • @EM-ou2dn
    @EM-ou2dn 3 года назад +287

    Just put 500hp in the civic
    Sometimes even I am amazed by my own brilliancy

    • @damedusa5107
      @damedusa5107 3 года назад +14

      Then you would lose the front end

    • @APBperformance
      @APBperformance 3 года назад +3

      and 4wd

    • @maitreyoda7404
      @maitreyoda7404 3 года назад +14

      @@APBperformance And you’d lose on the weight .

    • @jonboy602
      @jonboy602 3 года назад +30

      @@maitreyoda7404 Add lightness.

    • @ScottPC
      @ScottPC 3 года назад +43

      Get this man a job at NASA.

  • @zerozeropure
    @zerozeropure 3 года назад +113

    as continental once said " POWER is NOTHING WITHOUT CONTROL "

    • @Supndrup
      @Supndrup 3 года назад +14

      *Pirelli 👍

    • @99Lezard99
      @99Lezard99 3 года назад +2

      That really was pirellis Marketing wasnt it?

    • @gameboyterrorysta6307
      @gameboyterrorysta6307 3 года назад +10

      I still see Leclerc crashing into Verstappen in front of this banner.

    • @neb-yr5589
      @neb-yr5589 3 года назад +1

      @@gameboyterrorysta6307 lol

  • @RobertMitchell
    @RobertMitchell 3 года назад +52

    I’m in the handling Fanclub right now!!!

    • @snoopydogg1
      @snoopydogg1 3 года назад +1

      Absolutely 💯

    • @gerardjoaquino8856
      @gerardjoaquino8856 3 года назад +3

      Are we supposed to hold on to the hope you'll be owning a Honda sometime from now? 😉

    • @rhabeldibabeldi6812
      @rhabeldibabeldi6812 3 года назад +1

      @@gerardjoaquino8856 maybe the e30 got him excited for older cars again and he'll buy a new old track toy ^^

    • @jopa030
      @jopa030 3 года назад

      and you are Tier 1!!!

  • @IvanDriftGaming
    @IvanDriftGaming 3 года назад +96

    Handling + less hp is more fun, you need to use every gear up to the limiter and you need a lot of accuracy to be fast. Every car can be fast on a straight line

    • @JerGol
      @JerGol 3 года назад +13

      Right, and exactly why the MX-5 has sold so well for so long.

    • @atom608
      @atom608 Год назад +3

      I drove an Rs3 for a while and yeah it was quick it was so boring, just plant your foot and paddle shift but my stripped out 2zzge celica rowing through the gear screaming at 8250RPM is way more fun to drive.

  • @TunaNoKetchup
    @TunaNoKetchup 3 года назад +151

    Handling for me is everything!

    • @Jtaism
      @Jtaism 3 года назад +5

      Couldn't agree more!

    • @110eidyR
      @110eidyR 3 года назад +11

      Cannot agree more. If I should spend money for turbo or shocks, I would always go for shocks.

    • @steffenkawa8374
      @steffenkawa8374 3 года назад +13

      @@110eidyR and tires. They make a huge difference. For me tires then suspension and brakes.

    • @mzaversnik2655
      @mzaversnik2655 3 года назад +2

      Same. Rather drive a 90hp car around the twisties than a 500hp car on the highway

  • @gjorgjichaushevski5214
    @gjorgjichaushevski5214 3 года назад +70

    Definitely you should make more comparison videos like this, well done.

    • @bawb265
      @bawb265 3 года назад +2

      Oh definitely, I love these vids!

  • @TheMrBizmo
    @TheMrBizmo 3 года назад +24

    This video is a perfect mirror to my experiences. I currently have a 400whp 135i M sport and my last car was an Acura RSX (very similar to the EP3).
    My RSX had full suspension, race brakes, Poly everything, braces, 'Cheater tires' etc. My 1er has FBO, minor suspension updates and rear subframe braces on street tires.
    For me, its not even a comparison on the track, the RSX was more fun in everyway besides the straights. The big 6 Piston calipers on the 1er will cook the 'sport' pads after a few good laps. The RSX would run all day with no fade, no issues etc.
    I will forever be a fan of light weight, engaging cars.

    • @codnerd1234
      @codnerd1234 2 года назад +5

      This is nice to hear as I have a es2 track build coming along, very fun car k20 no power steering no abs just raw driving inputs and feedback

  • @MrDavidfball
    @MrDavidfball 3 года назад +32

    as someone who was raised in the performance tuning of the 1990's the mantra was forget about BHP, brakes and suspension first no good getting to a bend at 150 MPH to find out you can't slow down or get around the curve

    • @lmartinmiami82
      @lmartinmiami82 3 года назад +6

      Not the same 90's than mine ahah mine was intake, exhaust and mp3 CD music player first :)

    • @MrDavidfball
      @MrDavidfball 3 года назад +1

      @@lmartinmiami82 MP3 how posh, my first audio upgrade was from a bog standard Vauxhall tape deck to a Blaupunkt CD player, MP3 was a thing of fancy back then.
      i admit to having a JanSpeed back box on it was the thing with Nova's back then

    • @lmartinmiami82
      @lmartinmiami82 3 года назад

      @@MrDavidfball in my 90's I was very young and definitely did not took the best decisions ahah. In Europe in the 90's when you had 150hp you was very lucky so listening a lazy 4cyl. Or a 6cyl. 🙄 At that time the best for me was the e36 3.2l this was and still is magnificent to listen all day long with no music.

    • @MrDavidfball
      @MrDavidfball 3 года назад +1

      @@lmartinmiami82 back then though cars with 150 BHP (i had a Calibra 16v with that power) were not weighed down with 101 electric devices or systems to make someone with no talent the new Michael Schumacher.
      they could get some decent speed and a good driver stood out a mile, cars now have good power but weigh half a ton more

    • @lmartinmiami82
      @lmartinmiami82 3 года назад

      @@MrDavidfball true I my crx and that drama speed being at 220km/h was like 300 😅. Good thing is now it's easy to double or triple the Hp but we lost in feelings because of confort, weight,... In France guys like Renault because of taxes and réglementation have to keep their engine small therefore the weight down and that keep these cars like clio rs or Megan rs pretty fun, wish they would do rwd one though...

  • @errolbrinkman2721
    @errolbrinkman2721 3 года назад +9

    Nothing can beat the feel of being on the limit of a balanced car 😁

  • @Goodstegosaurus
    @Goodstegosaurus 3 года назад +10

    The M140i Chassis is so poor from factory, but with some decent springs an LSD and the underbody chassis mounts from BMW it actually starts to handle very nicely. Shame BMW couldn't do it from factory, but I guess it would have been too close to the M2.

  • @andysgaragetherapy
    @andysgaragetherapy 3 года назад +6

    I thoroughly enjoyed this one! As a civic owner it pleases me to see with simple handling mods and braking upgrades I can develop a car that still remains fun and a little competitive as well despite any horsepower disadvantages 🤙🏻

  • @koengixxer
    @koengixxer 3 года назад +14

    Honda's are very good track cars, just needs good brakes,gummi and suspension..
    Love this type of vid's👍😎

  • @FreestylerAlbert
    @FreestylerAlbert 3 года назад +7

    And the most important when you compare cars: how do they FEEL. Which one you enjoy more. After this the numbers come.
    The things which are not in catalogs are more important.

  • @kayhesse
    @kayhesse 3 года назад +11

    Nice video Misha 👌🏻👌🏻 I would pick the Honda any day for this kind of use 😎

    • @pswmetalmonkey
      @pswmetalmonkey 3 года назад +1

      Kay - you should give your car to Misha for a drive!

  • @Tristan.R.J.M
    @Tristan.R.J.M 3 года назад +24

    Cornerspeed!
    Team Shirmer approved.

    • @Tristan.R.J.M
      @Tristan.R.J.M 3 года назад

      MIS H A
      S CH IRMER
      The ch h chhchch is messing with me?!?

  • @leventevarga263
    @leventevarga263 3 года назад +30

    Everybody who is watching this video, knows the answer but watches it till the end😆😆.

  • @MrJaurinho
    @MrJaurinho 3 года назад +2

    you are, by far, best car youtuber rn, congrats not only to you, but all the team of apex.

  • @DanKlar
    @DanKlar 3 года назад +3

    Great comparison, Misha! Thanks for creating it. More of these would be fun to watch.

  • @jorgoshki
    @jorgoshki 3 года назад +2

    Great video Misha!👍

  • @Wazi69
    @Wazi69 3 года назад +2

    Comparisons are awesome! thank you

  • @klavsmadsen1720
    @klavsmadsen1720 3 года назад +3

    Really good content Misha. Keep it up

  • @ThEtEcHnOsAm
    @ThEtEcHnOsAm 3 года назад +6

    Handling, nothing beats a well setup car that you can use to its full potential.

  • @hamzasherazi9334
    @hamzasherazi9334 3 года назад +4

    Super interesting one. Definitely make more of such videos with different comparisons.

  • @noahbirdrevolution
    @noahbirdrevolution 3 года назад +13

    This is content! I heard Robert was jealous and now we know why. ;)

  • @CarLifeUK
    @CarLifeUK 3 года назад +4

    Love these videos, pushes EP prices up 😂
    Seriously though ep3's are great! If you can get over how chavy they look and the weird steering rack.
    Mines a decent spec now and goes pretty well👍

  • @moonquake1881
    @moonquake1881 3 года назад +2

    I had an EP3, I put a Mugen Torsten diff in there. What an amazing car that was, the grip was fantastic. And the K20 with the VTEC @6’000 was just magical, intoxicating, what a noise ! Drawback was you would start getting nervous at 220.

  • @kingdongo4388
    @kingdongo4388 2 года назад +1

    Did you read this from a script cuz it was sooo good, and the editing was on point, we need more of these comparison videos again, really super Cool!!!

  • @PiroFyre
    @PiroFyre 3 года назад +1

    My driving instructor for my first track day did a lot of wheel to wheel races in Hondas. When I still had my Civic Si, he told me "Hondas are low on power for a reason. They are momentum cars". I have since moved on to a different car but I will never forget what he said.

  • @BulletGER111
    @BulletGER111 3 года назад +3

    Hey Misha, I'd like to see a comparison between a M2 (N55) and M3 F80 or M4. There is a lot of discussion in the Internet if the M2 really is the more fun and faster car on track.
    Thank you for doing such videos. It is always interesting to hear opinions on "normal" or modified cars from an actual race driver.

  • @terot8341
    @terot8341 3 года назад +6

    Power is nothing without control, but control can be without power. And when you combine those two, it will be hell lot of fun.
    Writing This before watching video.

  • @Freddy-rq9bz
    @Freddy-rq9bz 3 года назад +1

    Very nice video Misha. I would like to see more of these car comparison videos 😎👍

  • @Pedro5antos_
    @Pedro5antos_ 3 года назад +1

    Awesome comparison! great content

  • @WelcomeToAir
    @WelcomeToAir 3 года назад +1

    Misha you do a great job on all of your videos and this one was just like the rest, I’d love to see more of these type of videos but I’ll watch anything you post lol

  • @Bajsi7
    @Bajsi7 3 года назад +4

    Balance of performance, if something sticks out it doesn't help, harmony of all factors which influence overall performance.

  • @phatfatninja
    @phatfatninja 3 года назад +2

    Great video Misha illustrating how power isn't everything. I'm finding my M240i has way too much power for how poorly the stock set up is on the car. I mostly drive on twisty mountain-ish roads, and even then, driving moderately, I find the setup to be very lacking in the "fun" department. Too much power, too much understeer. I much preferred using lighter cars with better brakes, better suspension and tires and less power.

  • @markythegreat
    @markythegreat 3 года назад +4

    Ahhh brake fade, the thing no mainstream performance car reviewers ever talk about, but the thing that makes the vast majority of heavy ‘performance cars’ useless after 15 minutes of track driving. I really don’t get it. Top Gear and all the RUclips channels doing 60-0 brake tests and other nonsense that doesn’t matter if the pad is obliterated after 15 minutes on track. It’s even hard to buy aftermarket pads knowing which will survive track use and for how long - all the folk talking about breaking power and dust but not trackday longevity. Speaking as someone who’s spent too many trackday lunch breaks changing pads.

    • @vafan13
      @vafan13 3 года назад +1

      Because brake fade is irrelevant for the vast majority of people buying such cars, and the small percentage of people intending to track probably (hopefully) already know they're going to upgrade the brakes.

    • @snoopydogg1
      @snoopydogg1 3 года назад

      And brake fluid

    • @markythegreat
      @markythegreat 3 года назад

      @@1061shrink1061 even Engineering Explained, who should know better, responded to criticism that he did a brake test video with simple emergency stops, so he tested vented brake discs vs solid ones by doing heavy breaking down a steep hill...better, but still not a trackday duty cycle, vented discs have a lower heat capacity than solid discs, so get hot quicker, but also cool down quicker on the straights which is the point. The way to test the track effectiveness of brakes is to go on a track and measure the temperature and measure the wear rate over time.

    • @markythegreat
      @markythegreat 3 года назад

      @@1061shrink1061 ducting for cooling I think is important and something I will add to my next track car build (I am sadly on a car diet right now until I move house). There is only so far you can go with reasonably priced brake upgrades, and a simple bit of pipe to add more air (which is ultimately what is taking the energy away even after upsizing callipers and racing pads and vented disks etc) is potentially an amazing mod for increasing seat time.

    • @markythegreat
      @markythegreat 3 года назад

      @@1061shrink1061 as standard or you put them in?

  • @domagojmedek4063
    @domagojmedek4063 3 года назад +1

    You should definitely make some more videos with comparison of other cars with different modifications, it shows what the real difference is! And my personal opinion is that handling are way more important then horsepower! It's always better to drive the slow car fast, than fast car slow!

  • @shidous
    @shidous 3 года назад

    Your "Honest Comparison" part was something many forget! Great job on putting it out there

  • @PeakPerformanceReviews
    @PeakPerformanceReviews 3 года назад +3

    Handling first always with a dab of power mods of course 👌👍

  • @Sammyzuko
    @Sammyzuko 3 года назад +4

    6:11 E36 ftw!

  • @norrekaka3ks1
    @norrekaka3ks1 3 года назад +1

    I would think that this type of content is great... Enjoyed the video, and I totally agree!

  • @justar6865
    @justar6865 3 года назад +16

    A bit of both really

  • @averagebro413
    @averagebro413 3 года назад +1

    I loved this comparison, please make more of them

  • @DeathNRebirth
    @DeathNRebirth 3 года назад +1

    Keep up this series and make it a regular thing for sure!

  • @whitehouse237
    @whitehouse237 3 года назад +1

    Used to have the M135i with a few power mods.....had more fun in my Clio 182 cos of the handling.
    People just need to have the car they enjoy and not worry about numbers.

    • @mnoovurvi
      @mnoovurvi 3 года назад

      That cannot happen if you have never had the power. Once you've had a fast car and is out of your system then yes.

  • @pedroramos4718
    @pedroramos4718 3 года назад

    In the end of the day for one ring tool made especially for the nurburgring starts always with handling mods, suspension, tires, brakes etc and only when you feel very confident with that you will go for some performance mods, but always remember, on the nordschleife the power sometimes can be your biggest enemy. Have fun guys and thanks for this amazing content misha!

  • @0Freguenedy0
    @0Freguenedy0 3 года назад +4

    The maximum improvements as possible in handling and break and just enough power for poweroversteer.

  • @Rizzer318ti
    @Rizzer318ti 3 года назад +2

    You can drive my stock engine M140i with all handling mods this spring 🙃

  • @xx-chromosoom6471
    @xx-chromosoom6471 3 года назад +1

    I vote for a combination of the two , handling and power... perhaps the NSX is a fun ringtool since emissions getting important these days 😎 Anyway , great vid again Mischa !

  • @timschwanzer3381
    @timschwanzer3381 3 года назад

    Your Videos getting better and better with every single one Like it
    And yeah please more Videos Like this one 👌

  • @janmolenkamp3778
    @janmolenkamp3778 3 года назад

    Well another informative video , most off it i already implemented on my performance car. Learned early that who comes out off the corner the fastest has a good change off winning a race. However as you eluded to that a variety off modifications are a compromise at the least. What i learned today from you is that brake fade on the Bimmer will cause understeer, not a feature that you like to happened. Again love your experience on the Nordschleife , a great R&D report, about car set ups. And keep those reviews coming. Thanks for the afford .

  • @xynthetic4
    @xynthetic4 3 года назад +1

    Need one of those hybrid racing shifters in my ep3! Awesome video , very interesting to see the difference even with the type R being so down on power compared

  • @marcoberton366
    @marcoberton366 3 года назад +2

    Nice video! Could you please make some technical content about how you'd set up the suspensions for the track?

  • @RaheelZahir
    @RaheelZahir 3 года назад +4

    Lmao I love the mini tangents Misha gets on to 😂

  • @edmurth
    @edmurth 3 года назад +5

    Someone needs to get a Reliant Robin to the Nurburgring for Misha to test the handling 😂

    • @Tristan.R.J.M
      @Tristan.R.J.M 3 года назад +1

      Misha’s interpretation of ‘for research purposes’. 😂

  • @esmeabela9866
    @esmeabela9866 3 года назад +10

    If you have to min/max, handling. Because power is cringe

    • @richardclock2333
      @richardclock2333 3 года назад +3

      And cringe is power. TheStradman for example

  • @cwinner6277
    @cwinner6277 3 года назад +1

    That was so interesting! Looking forward for another one

  • @corone2018
    @corone2018 3 года назад +2

    It looks like the type R had obstacles everywhere while the beemer had less traffic , probably would of been 5seconds and not 15secs

  • @niwouackermann8517
    @niwouackermann8517 3 года назад +2

    I really like both a lot.
    But it's always fun chasing a more powerful car with an underdog.

  • @ryryshredder148
    @ryryshredder148 3 года назад +4

    Less weight or more power would be an interesting comparison too

    • @r129r16pfl
      @r129r16pfl 3 года назад +1

      Less weight will always win in the long run.

    • @Tomelino
      @Tomelino 3 года назад

      The thing I learnd in the past years is, that weight is everything if it comes to a fun driving experiance. I was used to my 535i with 300hp and bought a Mini One with 95hp.
      You can't win a price on the straight with the Mini, but it's so light and so much more fun to drive. If I wouldn't need the space, I would sell the 5-Series and buy a Cooper S.

    • @F1reMaker1
      @F1reMaker1 3 года назад +2

      Less weight is a total win in cornering.

    • @JarzombDC2
      @JarzombDC2 3 года назад

      Power helps you on straights. Less weight helps you on straights, on corners and in braking.

  • @w0utar
    @w0utar 3 года назад

    this vid was pure genius! A new format found, and a very interesting one. Looking forward to you comparing driving Ring laps in a Koenigsegg Jesko and a Tuatara :D

  • @jacksonzhong9298
    @jacksonzhong9298 3 года назад +3

    lightweight cars achieve the same if not stronger performance using less tires/brakes
    and since operating cost is lowered you can go twice amount of track events
    at the end of the day, tires are not cheap lol

  • @sertyuhg
    @sertyuhg 3 года назад +1

    To be fair 15 seconds is an eternity in racing, even on a long track such as the Nurburgring

  • @paullockwood7219
    @paullockwood7219 3 года назад

    This is brilliant Misha. I'm a big 1 series fan, but I love the comparison given here.

  • @laytonb7
    @laytonb7 3 года назад +1

    I saw a “pancake factor” in Misca’s driving performance between the two laps ...I believe we need to know if these laps are being performed before or after visiting Devil’s Diner. That would make answering the question of power VS. handling more real world for the uninitiated!

  • @johnm7052
    @johnm7052 3 года назад +2

    Please do more more of this Videos!

  • @jackweta
    @jackweta 3 года назад +1

    my honda k24 ep3 was one second slower than an 135i coupe on my home track hampton downs. the 135i is a reasonably priced daily/track car approx $20k in nz. my car was $12k. i have used semi slicks. endless brake pads on 320mm twin pot brakes. dc5 lower control arms on front. 5 stud conversion. stock exhaust/inlet. the 135i had st tyres pirellis. for a track car its hard to pass on a honda. the bmw looks like a good daily although i am not sure of the transmission reliability longterm as it is sealed. the bmw owner gives it fresh brake fluid every track day. i do fluids after every 3rd trackday.

  • @harabagiuf2008
    @harabagiuf2008 3 года назад +1

    Great video, quality content as always 👍

  • @TeroOhranen
    @TeroOhranen 3 года назад

    This was a great video, and I would love to see more of these comparisons!! Thank you Misha for the content!

  • @snoopydogg1
    @snoopydogg1 3 года назад +1

    Excellent video and overlay

  • @CosteaMelniciuc
    @CosteaMelniciuc 3 года назад

    This type of videos are really cool! Keep doing them! Love them! Really interesting analysis.

  • @martinchapman2168
    @martinchapman2168 3 года назад +4

    Good video

    • @MacheteK
      @MacheteK 3 года назад +2

      Good comment

  • @Wirenfeldt1990
    @Wirenfeldt1990 3 года назад

    Unless your track of choice is Monza, Daytona or Road America, handling is king...
    This was really interesting.. keep it up sir!

  • @redslate
    @redslate 3 года назад

    Handling
    So many Euro hatchbacks blew by my 500 tq muscle car like it was nothing. Suspension components were already on-order; that experience reaffirmed the decision.

  • @thestig4408
    @thestig4408 8 месяцев назад

    Nice video Misha, please make more like these. 👍

  • @DakeAit
    @DakeAit 3 года назад

    Wow Misha, братуха, this video is dope!! We need more!!!

  • @endeavour2127
    @endeavour2127 3 года назад +1

    Great video!
    Very interesting comparison!
    Please do more of these!

  • @revmatchtv
    @revmatchtv 3 года назад

    Brakes + handling are always the first mods!

  • @dk350dx
    @dk350dx 3 года назад +2

    3:24 that rx7 booty

  • @andrescosta6923
    @andrescosta6923 3 года назад

    Great content! Thank you from Spain.

  • @jairo.cabello
    @jairo.cabello 3 года назад +1

    WIsh you could do a passenger lap with that miata doing like 8:20 with almost stock engine, I think it's the biggest possible expression handling vs horsepower

  • @damogorm
    @damogorm 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant content here. Great video today

  • @Undee-or7sb
    @Undee-or7sb 3 года назад

    Nice Video, Misha. Like the smooth Music in the Background.

  • @Admr_
    @Admr_ 3 года назад

    Very well edited video! I would love more of these types of videos.

  • @peterthemaniac
    @peterthemaniac 3 года назад

    plz moore of this during the offseason!

  • @tamto6328
    @tamto6328 3 года назад

    As a previous owner of a Honda CRX with a swapped in ITR motor and a few Mazda Miatas(mx-5), no doubt, I would have more fun with light weight, low(ish) hp, and a properly set up chassis.
    "If you can't go fast with 90hp, 900 ain't gonna help you". - Bob Hall (Father of the Mazda mx-5).

  • @yonatanbenavraham6598
    @yonatanbenavraham6598 3 года назад +4

    What I want to know is where the Toyota GR Yaris holds between the two cars tested? Lets have a three way comparison with the GR Yaris. You have to justify price also and I am sure the BMW is far pricier ann the other two cars. Nice video but not enough cars compared.

  • @siraff4461
    @siraff4461 3 года назад +1

    Throw the semi-slicks on the BMW and the gap would be much larger.

  • @JerainJezza
    @JerainJezza 3 года назад

    Thank you for not putting sponsors in the video!

  • @ApothecaryTerry
    @ApothecaryTerry 3 года назад +3

    No.1 mod: brakes. No.2 mod: driver. ☺

  • @injeen
    @injeen 3 года назад

    Power is not the only thing to make up sports car. Dynamic maneuverability is the key.

  • @darmap8489
    @darmap8489 2 года назад

    Honda is the definition of racing and motorsports. Absolutely legendary name.

  • @steeltrap3800
    @steeltrap3800 3 года назад

    I smiled when you mentioned "bottlenecking" as it is exactly what I had in mind as I watched. In essence you're really having to manage the LOWEST performing aspect
    every time you want to make a change, as any one aspect getting way out in front simply isn't efficient or even going to improve PRACTICAL performance.
    I was thinking the power v handling question is a bit like building a gaming PC, something with which I suspect at least some people who watch your channel are familiar. You can put a monster graphics card in it, but if you lack a CPU and RAM combo able to utilise it correctly it's like generating wheelspin. Similarly, a great CPU AND GPU aren't much good if you can't manage the heat; you'll get fantastic performance until it overheats and throttles back or shuts down, and you have to hope you don't damage something. Thus cooling of the case and components becomes a factor. Oh, you then need to make sure you've got a power source that can run all this, too. Then you can also overclock GPUs and CPUs, but you potentially suffer a reliability and/or endurance hit; overclock or get something a bit more powerful and run it at stock settings?
    Bottlenecking indeed.
    Really liked the side by side lap segment comparison format.
    Fun video, thanks Misha.

  • @where_s_wally
    @where_s_wally 3 года назад

    Really great video Misha!

  • @kenneth9921
    @kenneth9921 3 года назад

    More of these video pls Misha. Thumbs up 👍🏻

  • @vafan13
    @vafan13 3 года назад +4

    I wonder how much of an improvement the m140i would see with just some more track-focused pads, rbf600, and DIY brake ducting.

  • @sickjohnson
    @sickjohnson 3 года назад

    This video had me thinking about that K-swapped Lotus you took for a lap last year Misha.
    Might have to go watch that one again now.

  • @rhabeldibabeldi6812
    @rhabeldibabeldi6812 3 года назад

    Enjoyed that comparison, looking forward to more of your expertise :)

  • @mikerobinson7988
    @mikerobinson7988 3 года назад

    I love these comments as my 2 daily drivers are a rear wheel drive M140i and Megane RS III Aus GP special edition... Both hot hatches bother blindingly fast but both completely different. I can't say I could live without either of them 😁