Chapter 7 before its nerf was still harder than chapter 9 imo, in chapter 9 you learn new tricks, but once learned its really easy, here it's just pure skill and micro movement
Did you know that there‘s a checkpoint on that final island where the grandma is? I should know, I accidentally fell off there and saw 4 hours of fails flash before my eyes as I screamed out in agony, only to respawn in front of her.
I have heard other people say that. As you can see in the video, I almost fell at that spot but managed to recover, just before I went to the hospital to be treated for irregular heart palpitations.
i did the same thing yesterday lol. got the wrong dash and went flying right past it. also i did the EXACT SAME THING in 8c but there was no checkpoint to save me there
Playing celeste is like learning math. You hear about some very advanced techiniques and think "oh I guess it can be done that way" and a few chapters later that CRAZY ASS SHIT becomes necessary to go forward
Tbh I think most players watch at least some playthroughs / speedruns and at least know that trick exists beforehand. I also employed these techniques from time to time in my first playthrough.
@@joshuaham1022 I just beat the mirror temple c-side and it took me 14 hours of trying spread around a whole week of. You guys have nothing to complain xD
@@Rogther most of the c sides took me under 30 mins so far. Chapter 1 took me 10 mins, chapter 2 3 and 4 around 30 mins, chapter 5 1 hour, chapter 6 under 30 mins. But I feel like chapter 7 is gonna take a few hours
JSG it’s been a while since I played the game but if you’re talking about the floor boost thing I just held diagonally the whole time. It works fine you just have to get the timing right.
Lol, I have a habit of holding the climb button while I play this game. In levels where you have to do the dash jump off of walls it's a bad habit because the wall dash doesn't work as well if you're holding climb, so I'm forcing myself not to do it on levels like this. Then sometimes I get to the end and I'm used to just climbing automatically and she doesn't. Have to think quickly to correct it :)
When I finally did this level, I was so much in my own zone that I didn't realise my girlfriend's dog was pooping on the rug. She wasn't very happy with me...
I have gotten every red strawberry, every heart, and beaten every level including chapter 9 and b/c sides, speedrun a little, and have about 15000 deaths
I'm currently at 5,881 deaths between all levels A-C, but I still need to beat 8-C so I'm guessing at least 6000 or more by the time I finish everything.
YOOOO I KNOW RIGHT! After finishing farewell I'm going through looking at all the C-Sides and I see this ezpz little thing and that's supposed to be difficult? Farewell really puts into perspective what difficult truly means lol
I'm glad I'm not the only person this happened to; I kept reading about people being like "I've done all the C-sides but chapter 9 is so hard!", whereas I just went and did chapter 9 as soon as I met the heart requirement because, well, it was the next chapter.
@@Interesting_Failure I did chapter 9 even before I met the heart requirement. I discovered that you can jump very fast when pressing jump and dash at the same time and just because I was curious I tried to get through the wall before it fully blocks the way and after a few times, I succeded. After that the game teached me this very same tech I had just used to get there :D
1:13 - 11:14, the part where you dash up twice, then dash right, then fall down left, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do that (you have to be EXTREMELY precise). It worked perhaps 1/20 times. Easier is to dash up twice, lose a bit of height, and then dash up-right instead of right, before falling down. You have SO much more wiggle room it's crazy. Managed to finish the level in the next 4 tries when I changed my tactic here.
This needs to go UP!! I lost a bunch of time trying to replicate the dash-right movement shown here, only got it right once. It got me thinking that there might be a mechanic that I don't know that allows the player to "brake" Madeline mid dash (is there?). Anyway, dashing up-right is way more consistent.
@@leopignataro Yes there is that mechanic. While you can't curve your dash, after the game "decides" your dash (a few frames into the dash) you can slow down slightly so that you have more control. You can also duck to perform a demo dash, but that's more precise
the white palace has nothing on this type of platforming. i mean, even the path of pain is a cakewalk in comparison. for example, path of pain took me 40ish minutes. these are definitely not happening in that short a time.
The White Palace isn’t even that difficult if you have Hiveblood equipped. It makes dying an impossibility, and it eases up the tension of the platforming, allowing you to do better. Plus, the White Palace has several shortcuts, but they are pretty difficult to find. Now the Pantheon of Hallownest, on the other hand...
"attached to the struggle" bro wth I was so happy I don't need to do all that again to mess up on a dash by being late 10 frames im only doing the game since it just wouldn't sit right with me to just leave it and let my skills rust or just cheat on it
@@Uaevo0 Well, this was all from a single run through the level. I didn't play through multiple times to try to get good looking runs. I only played each level once. I just spliced out the deaths - which all occurred in the final section of the level. So that was legitimately what my run looked like the first time I played the level. Also, since it was made as an instructional video, those slips show that there is room for mistakes during that section without dying, which is instructional. I also had a slip up at the end where I didn't grab the rock at the end and almost fell. 1:17 I could have cut that out and done a fresh run to make it look a little better, but a lot of people have mentioned that they fell at that point, so it's kind of better that I left it in to highlight the danger at that point.
This one was definitely the worst. It took me two hours because of that ending part. And then i decided to do the 3rd world A side without dying and that was a hell of its own until I finished it.
It's one of the hardest to beat, but also one of the easiest to get the golden strawberry for. Took me nearly 2 hours to beat it the first time, but by that point the muscle memory necessary for the last stage was already engraved hard into my fingers, so the golden strawberry only took an additional 40 minutes.
Michael Smith C side goldens are far easier than a side goldens. The levels are so short, and many of them have easy screens then one hard screen that you have to do without dying anyways. 1 and 2 a are easy deathless, but past that is harder than the c side goldens. The stages are so long that there are too many possible errors for me to do without a single mistake.
@@musicalbrit3465 Yeah I've beaten all the a sides of the first 3 chapters deathless and all sides deathless on the first 2. I've been working on the chapter 3 bside for days. Yesterday I got to the final room and died getting the last switch to unlock the heart
Michael Smith damn. I have the first 2 a and c sides deathless, and 4c deathless. Anything celestial resort is downright impossible for me to do deathless, timing myself to cycles is too hard lmao. I’ll go back for C side goldens once I’m done with this and 8c
I just got the plat the other day, no assist mode. What were your hardest ones? I thought 5c was the hardest overall, 7c was second but 8c was close. That last room killed me 175 times lol
I've gotten all 24 hearts and 129 strawberries, including the level 1 golden strawberry. Also visited the secret developer room. Have never used assist mode. Total: 11942 deaths, 36:54:56.395. 7C was by far the hardest. 1379 deaths 3:59:20.461
Finally beat it after 1800 deaths. It was so hard to be consistent on the last screen, pull Madeline too far left by even a fraction of an inch and you'll hit spikes. Too far right, spikes. Put too much bounce on a cloud jump, spikes. Not enough bounce, spikes. It's brutal!! Not to mention, the number of deaths directly caused by my analog stick sending me in an unintended direction..
01:05 wow, they patched these spikes in? When I finished the game 2 weeks ago, those top-spikes were not there. Good to see that they improve the levels. But now I feel a bit ashamed, because I got to beat it the "easy way". Good skills man, I like it very much! :-)
Many hours and over 500 deaths later, I beat this stage. And you know what? I loved it! I guess I became attached to the struggle, as it seems. Now on to the level 8 C-side...
Its really hard, specially the final screen, today I make my way to granny in the final screen, then after speak to her accidentally I fall into the pit before I can reach the golden heart, I have a mini heart attack before I realise that I respawn just next to the pink tree and granny to finally obtain that golden heart. XD
this level was so damn annoying to clear but mostly through my own... fault? I somehow managed to cross the lower part and hit the spring after the cloud at 1:08 on a very early try and thought that was the intended way but struggled to get it to work even 5 times at most for a million tries after. also 3C was a ton more annoying. I hate Oshiro jumps and the anxiety blobs.
Man screw this last room. Its so demoralizing one mess up or eaten input and your back to square one its so long and I can barely get to the third pink cloud before the final spike maze consistently. I have done the other C-sides no problem heck I even got the golden winged strawberry at the end of chapter 1 by not dashing for the whole level, But the last room if this C-side takes the cake for being annoying and evil not hard.
@@nodastsakonas8296 Dont believe a word on internet.People lie. Especially with celeste.Too much of their ego to reveal actual death count!! SO many liar assholes on reddit too.lol.I died only ten times...only fifty times...only hundred times. Liars..every one of them. Dont feel bad abt yourself.I died three thousand time with five hours. But now after trying and trying...i barley die ten times on this level. Even got gold strawberry.:) You become better with time.Never believe assholes on internet.
C-Sides are such an interesting thing in Celeste. They’re super intense challenges, but also way, way shorter than the B-Sides. So you get a burst of challenge without it overstaying its welcome.
I remember watching this soon after beating the summit for the first time, and thinking that I'd never be able to do something like this. Now I've beaten every b and c side, beaten chapter 9, and trying speedruns. Celeste is a great game.
interesting fact: when I was going through 7C with the golden berry and reached the very end, I decided to use several wave dashes to gain high speed and ended up falling down, but I didn't get confused and in the next attempt I went through all the screens and collected the heart
2 months ago i saw this and i thought: "there is no way i'm beating that".1026 deaths, 3 painful hours, and i just have completed 7c. I guess i'm ready for chapter 9
i see people talking about mirror-c being the hardest, but personally, i didn't struggle as long as i did with that level than i did with summit-c. the last room was complete hell to do
By far the hardest level for me personally. Mirror-C wasn't so bad once you understand/look up how you are supposed to do it, and Core-C is similarly long but has far easier plattforming.
I spent 3+ hours on this, and probably because I was using Joystick instead of Dpad, so I got a lot of missed inputs. I was so tempted to turn on Assist mode, but if I can't do this without assist, then what chance do I got for Farewell. However, I'm glad I persevered, the rush of adrenaline when I made that last dash for the wall was such a relief.
this one frustrated me so much because it was like i could picture where to go and exactly what to do but it just took tons of practice to make it so. reminded me of piano in a really big way
Sure, Farewell takes longer, but no single screen is as difficult as this, not even close. No, not even the final screen. I can't see how someone who actually completed 7c can ever think that.
@@leopignataro I admit figuring out how to consistently do wavedashing took me longer to do then this screen did. Once it clicked it wasn't too bad. As a whole the final segment in 7C is long and there's low margin for error but I don't find most individual parts of the last segment to be bad on their own, like with chapter 9 you often have to string together multiple advanced techniques, while here it's mainly just getting the perfect timing down on what's otherwise pretty simple techniques. With 7C there's no one part that felt like hitting a brick wall, it was just stringing it all together at once that took some time, while with chapter 9 you have moments where you have to like activate a moving block, and wavedash into a walldash jump over crystals and grab back onto the block sort of thing.
@@dreamleaf552 I see what you mean, it's two different kinds of difficulty. Personally, I find the precision required in 7c much harder than the advanced technique in 9. Maybe because I'm on Switch.
@@leopignataro I play on PC so that might have something to do with it. Yeah, from a pure precision viewpoint I can see why people would find 7C harder, but when I factor in the struggle I had performing the advanced techniques initially in 9 it definitely made for more frustration. Now that I can perform the advanced techniques more consistently and have built up the muscle memory I might find 7C harder. As it stands I'd say the first room of 5C and the triple wavedash in chapter 9 the room after it's introduced are the two that took me the longest to beat, although they're both admittedly great ways to practice and learn those techniques too which is useful but initially they made me want to shoot myself.
Personally, I just wanna puke at this amount of difficulty. I will never even begin to understand how humans can be so good in this. I raise my hands up, I surrender. Totally inexplicable.
@@reddarmi8593 I went to chapter 9 straight after 8A, not realizing it was a DLC... But I quickly realized something was wrong hehe! So I'm working my way through the B sides and C sides, and even got some A side golden berries (1, 2, 4, 5 and 6), now I'm off to 8C and then, finally, 9. I don't mind spending hours if it's on different screens, and I know chapter 9 is huge, IMO the longer the better. But 5 hours on ONE screen, that's just insane!! I was starting to consider buying celeste for PC (I'm on switch) just to get a better controller so that I could beat this dammed screen
I legit spent like 80 minutes in front of my computer playing the last level non-stop, 362 deaths... holy shit dude definitely the hardest level I've seen until now (I'm afraid of chapter 9)
Idk why but the drop at 0:58 is just so hard for me. Everything else is hard at first, but eventually gets consistent. I can never get consistent here.
Well 5C took me 1300+ deaths and 7C took me 667 deaths. While 5C was frustrating and had me thinking I could never do it, 7C was fun and I genuinely enjoyed getting better and better at mastering each step.
I played through farewell after all the C-Sides. I still think 7c last screen is still harder than any screen in farewell lmao. At least in farewell things were fun, 7c last screen is just hell
So after 3+ hours and 1100 deaths, the third screen of 7C takes the cake for me as the most brutal. 5C was more challenging to figure out, more technical, and as it ended up, my run didn't look anything like the runs I see on RUclips, now that I'm done and am allowing myself to look this stuff up (I made it through the third screen doing only two boosted wall jumps). But I can figure out puzzles, and even if it was tough to execute, it took nowhere near the precision and focus that 7C did. I did try to train myself to use the D-pad during this stage, because I hear it's easier, but the analog stick is so ingrained into me that I just couldn't do it. I'm not really sure if I'm making it harder on myself for that or not, but analog control on the Switch is how I finally beat it
I'm the same way. I played through the whole game using the analog stick - largely because the D-Pad on the X-Box controller is trash - but I felt like if I really wanted to commit to the game and be elite I needed to play with a D-Pad.
Plenty of top players use analogue, it’s all personal preference. It’s easier to make sure you get the desired input on a d pad, but for me analogue is far more intuitive and my gameplay flows way more with it. Everything is stilted when i try and use the d pad and I find myself way too focused on which buttons to press on the dpad to actually work my dash, jump and climb. I’m currently on the 3rd screen, with switch analogue as my only option. Any tips to get past this bit?
It depends on what exactly it is you're struggling with. A lot of my deaths were missed timing, so it came down to just not screwing that up. But something I was able to fix were my missed inputs. I realized that my dashing in the wrong direction was a product of my posture. By not sitting straight with the controller directly in front of me (I was sitting at an angle with the controller doing the same, in a sort of relaxed position), my analog inputs tended to be misaligned. Once I started sitting straight, I cut out the vast majority of my misinputs. I also invested in a $20 wired controller, rather than the joycons. _Slightly_ better on latency than the wireless joycons, which helped a small bit with timing (we're talking a small number of frames here, though when it comes to 7C, even 2 frames can make or break an attempt). Though the controller is bigger than the joycons, so it took a little getting used to. Helpful overall. The great thing about this game is that every mistake is your fault in some way or another. If you're able to think about why you died, you can think about what to do to correct it. Hopefully you aren't making the mistake of blaming the game for your screw ups.
Tiler I’m making good progress now, all i have left is the final section with the dash refresh crystals. Definitely going to try fixing my posture, it’s awful lmao. Thanks for the advice, I’m hoping to beat this and move on to 8c pretty soon! :)
2 hours, 691 deaths. Had to beat the last screen twice because my pc crashed when i was talking to grandma ._. I was furious lol, but calm enough to get it..
This is actually my favorite C-Side. The whole last section is really precise, but not too bad imo. The part *I* hate is the beginning with the 5 'up-dash-wall-jump' things in a row.
I hated the c side of world 8. I needed to use the assist mode only to pass the last obstacle, because I wasn't good with the new mechanic and there was no checkpoint to learn it.
Finally achieved the platinum for this game and this lvl by far was the hardest. Excluding chapter 9 of course. But this level took me 1,929 tries 😂 “funny how we get attached to the struggle”
Well here's the thing - since i am pretty bad at corner bounce (can't get it consistently) i just dashed to the right side of the block and then did a neutral jump to get the crystal. Never failed to do that :)
Bro i just did it today and it took me like 5 hours and over 1000 deaths...ive been known to be a super patient guy...and even my line of sanity was beggining to run thin
As Tomoire said, this is all there is to this level. The C-Sides use the same types of hazards, but don't tend to stick as closely to the themes as the B-Sides. Most people say this is the level they had the most trouble with in the game. Personally this one wasn't too bad for me. I had more trouble with Chapter 8 B-Side. I made a map of this level before I ever played it, and that probably helped a lot. I had already looked ahead to see what I was dealing with and had a good idea of what I needed to do to get through it.
The B-sides are harder versions of the originals, but generally C-sides are just a couple of very difficult challenges using the level's attributes, rather than actually being like the level. So this level doesn't have other area iterations, Mirror Temple C-side has no Madeline chucking Theo around or monsters, Reflection C-side has no boss fight, etc.
POV : You’re wondering how you have gotten the golden strawberry of this level in a small amount of tries even thought it’s supposed to be one of the hardest levels in Celeste while watching this video (totally not me I swear!1!!1!)
It's actually funny how easy this level becomes after you complete it once. After you get in the flow for long enough to actually beat it, you can do so pretty reliably. After spending maybe 2 hours doing this level, I was able to get the golden strawberry in 5 attempts. Not to mention how much Farewell puts this level into perspective.
God, can you imagine doing all of that and then dying at 1:19? Personally, took me an hour to do that final screen and I damn near had a heart attack when I heard the "crumbling" sound from the block.
i discovered the assist mode just at the end if this chapter, and im like, well fuck it, its the end of the game, let me just slow this down to 70% so i wont accidentally dash into the spikes for the hundred time.
I can't seem to get through 1:11-1:19 part in video I don't get how to get though such a confined place so quickly. If anyone can give me tips or ideas, it'd be much appreciated.
I just learned the pattern by heart tbh. Though I found that at 1:13 it helps to wait just a little bit then do an up-right diagonal dash. That way you never crash into the spikes. Besides that just keep practicing and you will eventually get there! And remember: You can do it
I actually agree. I thought the L7 and L8 B-Sides were both harder than this. Most people I've talked to have said they thought this was the hardest level, though.
![[TAS] Celeste All C-Sides in 3:04.773](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/WfN3LM4H8B4/mqdefault.jpg)
![[TAS] Celeste All C-Sides in 3:04.773](/img/tr.png)
![[TAS] Farewell (Celeste Chapter 9) in 9:59.998](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/86MNradN1oM/mqdefault.jpg)
At the end the developers where like pff who needs checkpoints
I assume Matt Thorson hit his head and got amnesia and actually forgot what a checkpoint is.
TASbot sure didn't care about them ;p
they were like
pff who needs a mountain to climb a mountain
What happend then in chapter 9 with the last room?
@@sorakoyo2673 bruh that last 'room' stressed me the hell out. Almost 2 1/2 minutes of solid movement without a checkpoint in sight
"the hardest level in celeste"
chapter 9 has entered the chat
Especially the final segment of that hell.
Chapter 7 before its nerf was still harder than chapter 9 imo, in chapter 9 you learn new tricks, but once learned its really easy, here it's just pure skill and micro movement
@Jay L wtf
@@Lunaii2 what do you mean before its nerf
@@dannyrg231 few pixel of spikes has been removed to give player more space to play in at differents spots
Did you know that there‘s a checkpoint on that final island where the grandma is? I should know, I accidentally fell off there and saw 4 hours of fails flash before my eyes as I screamed out in agony, only to respawn in front of her.
I have heard other people say that. As you can see in the video, I almost fell at that spot but managed to recover, just before I went to the hospital to be treated for irregular heart palpitations.
holy shrike, that's a big relief. I didn't wanna try it out, but that's still good to know
I just finished 7c and was like: "Do you respawn here" But I wasn't gonna mess around so this knowledge is great to have
i did the same thing yesterday lol. got the wrong dash and went flying right past it. also i did the EXACT SAME THING in 8c but there was no checkpoint to save me there
the *REAL* hardest level begins at 1:21
wtf hi colon
Farewell golden when?
Galacen joke
holy shit didn’t expect you here
Wait what did not expect to see you here
Playing celeste is like learning math. You hear about some very advanced techiniques and think "oh I guess it can be done that way" and a few chapters later that CRAZY ASS SHIT becomes necessary to go forward
Sounds about right
I love how after completing this they teach you a new movement technique in 8-C lol.
@@theroboman727 I could be wrong, but I assume he's pointing out the fact that they teach you a new move soo late in the game
@@Corn0nTheCobb I think it's to make the player keeping on playing, like seeing the chapters in whole new way, and maybe even trying to speedrun. :)
I've been practicing advanced movement like that since the beginning of the game, so I shouldn't have any problems with that.
RagingThunder They’re different tho
Tbh I think most players watch at least some playthroughs / speedruns and at least know that trick exists beforehand. I also employed these techniques from time to time in my first playthrough.
Can't wait to slave hours and hours into this level
Finally did it and it took hours. The other c sides took 30 minutes!
@@joshuaham1022 I just beat the mirror temple c-side and it took me 14 hours of trying spread around a whole week of.
You guys have nothing to complain xD
@@Rogther most of the c sides took me under 30 mins so far. Chapter 1 took me 10 mins, chapter 2 3 and 4 around 30 mins, chapter 5 1 hour, chapter 6 under 30 mins. But I feel like chapter 7 is gonna take a few hours
@@mustachioisbae Yeah, I'm bad at games
What the heck. I was able to beat all these C-sides in less then a hour. Dang
"MODERN VIDEO GAMES HAVE NO CHALLENGE! THEY DUMB IT DOWN!"
*shows video*
"Looks pretty easy to me"
*gives game*
Question: I want to like your comment, but you have 69 likes. What do I do?
That's true for most AAA games, but indie games are a whole other story lol
@@ErrorMacroBand yyp
Retro game fans when they see a playable game:
1:12 as a joystick player i feel personally attacked
Lol right? It sucks to control with it
I beat it with the joystick. This level definitely caused me the most frustration, but it’s doable.
@@chasedamoni3620 how the fuck do you even do the core C-side trick with the analog stick tho?. I had to switch to keyboard for that one.
Why do you guys use joysticks? Just use a dpad, it’s easier.
JSG it’s been a while since I played the game but if you’re talking about the floor boost thing I just held diagonally the whole time. It works fine you just have to get the timing right.
1:18 when you are at the end and you almost choke
Lol, I have a habit of holding the climb button while I play this game. In levels where you have to do the dash jump off of walls it's a bad habit because the wall dash doesn't work as well if you're holding climb, so I'm forcing myself not to do it on levels like this. Then sometimes I get to the end and I'm used to just climbing automatically and she doesn't. Have to think quickly to correct it :)
I forgot what button was the climb button and choked at the end, just sliding down the wall.
That was sad, but got it soon thereafter ^^
The insta heart attack
...yeah, I'm not doing that. This is gonna leave me broken
@@GitGuder I also have a habit of doing that
When I finally did this level, I was so much in my own zone that I didn't realise my girlfriend's dog was pooping on the rug. She wasn't very happy with me...
Panheim lol that’s the gamer zone for ya
Worth it.
16,900 deaths, but finally beat all the c sides.
Concrats! I have around 9,400 in the moment but there is Core C Side left rn. Have to do it :)
Wow, I could only do it in 69,420 deaths.
I have gotten every red strawberry, every heart, and beaten every level including chapter 9 and b/c sides, speedrun a little, and have about 15000 deaths
My total deaths right now are 7508, but I haven’t beaten chapter 9, so I’ll probably be over 10000 by then
I'm currently at 5,881 deaths between all levels A-C, but I still need to beat 8-C so I'm guessing at least 6000 or more by the time I finish everything.
Me a few weeks ago: "Jesus christ that's a brutal level"
Me after unknowingly playing through farewell: "...Wait, that's it?"
YOOOO I KNOW RIGHT! After finishing farewell I'm going through looking at all the C-Sides and I see this ezpz little thing and that's supposed to be difficult? Farewell really puts into perspective what difficult truly means lol
I'm glad I'm not the only person this happened to; I kept reading about people being like "I've done all the C-sides but chapter 9 is so hard!", whereas I just went and did chapter 9 as soon as I met the heart requirement because, well, it was the next chapter.
@@Interesting_Failure I did chapter 9 even before I met the heart requirement. I discovered that you can jump very fast when pressing jump and dash at the same time and just because I was curious I tried to get through the wall before it fully blocks the way and after a few times, I succeded. After that the game teached me this very same tech I had just used to get there :D
You can’t forget about the d-sides people.
Indeed! I did 7 C before Farewell and died so much, after I completed Farewell I did the Golden Strawberry at 7 C today lol
1:13 - 11:14, the part where you dash up twice, then dash right, then fall down left, I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to do that (you have to be EXTREMELY precise). It worked perhaps 1/20 times. Easier is to dash up twice, lose a bit of height, and then dash up-right instead of right, before falling down. You have SO much more wiggle room it's crazy. Managed to finish the level in the next 4 tries when I changed my tactic here.
This needs to go UP!! I lost a bunch of time trying to replicate the dash-right movement shown here, only got it right once. It got me thinking that there might be a mechanic that I don't know that allows the player to "brake" Madeline mid dash (is there?). Anyway, dashing up-right is way more consistent.
@@leopignataro Yes there is that mechanic. While you can't curve your dash, after the game "decides" your dash (a few frames into the dash) you can slow down slightly so that you have more control. You can also duck to perform a demo dash, but that's more precise
@@abrasmage dude what do you mean slow down?
Thanks for this man. V helpful.
@@omg_wtf Right after you dash, hold the opposite direction and look at the trail
"To think they'd add such a difficult level to an already great game kinda ruins things"
The white palace would like to have a word with you.
The Pantheon of Hollownest would like to have several words with you.
the white palace has nothing on this type of platforming. i mean, even the path of pain is a cakewalk in comparison. for example, path of pain took me 40ish minutes. these are definitely not happening in that short a time.
The White Palace isn’t even that difficult if you have Hiveblood equipped. It makes dying an impossibility, and it eases up the tension of the platforming, allowing you to do better. Plus, the White Palace has several shortcuts, but they are pretty difficult to find.
Now the Pantheon of Hallownest, on the other hand...
@@heyitsyaboi8419.....
Good to see hollow knight here. I wonder what platfroming shall arise from its sequel.
It's funny how we get attached to the struggle
Well, what are you waiting for?
"attached to the struggle"
bro wth I was so happy I don't need to do all that again to mess up on a dash by being late 10 frames
im only doing the game since it just wouldn't sit right with me to just leave it and let my skills rust or just cheat on it
@@Josuh* wavedashes into the heart*
Oohh i see the spliced footage at 0:52
Yes, this is not a no death run. Although I think this level is 'doable'.
Dude. Good eye!
@@GitGuder if it was a no-death run, meaning splices don't matter, why include the beginning where the player fucks up the wall boosts a few times?
@@Uaevo0 Well, this was all from a single run through the level. I didn't play through multiple times to try to get good looking runs. I only played each level once. I just spliced out the deaths - which all occurred in the final section of the level. So that was legitimately what my run looked like the first time I played the level.
Also, since it was made as an instructional video, those slips show that there is room for mistakes during that section without dying, which is instructional.
I also had a slip up at the end where I didn't grab the rock at the end and almost fell. 1:17 I could have cut that out and done a fresh run to make it look a little better, but a lot of people have mentioned that they fell at that point, so it's kind of better that I left it in to highlight the danger at that point.
@@GitGuder Understandable.
This one was definitely the worst. It took me two hours because of that ending part. And then i decided to do the 3rd world A side without dying and that was a hell of its own until I finished it.
It's one of the hardest to beat, but also one of the easiest to get the golden strawberry for. Took me nearly 2 hours to beat it the first time, but by that point the muscle memory necessary for the last stage was already engraved hard into my fingers, so the golden strawberry only took an additional 40 minutes.
Wait wait wait wait wait, there are golden strawberries on c sides. I can't even beat the a sides without dying
Michael Smith C side goldens are far easier than a side goldens. The levels are so short, and many of them have easy screens then one hard screen that you have to do without dying anyways.
1 and 2 a are easy deathless, but past that is harder than the c side goldens. The stages are so long that there are too many possible errors for me to do without a single mistake.
@@musicalbrit3465 Yeah I've beaten all the a sides of the first 3 chapters deathless and all sides deathless on the first 2. I've been working on the chapter 3 bside for days. Yesterday I got to the final room and died getting the last switch to unlock the heart
Michael Smith damn. I have the first 2 a and c sides deathless, and 4c deathless. Anything celestial resort is downright impossible for me to do deathless, timing myself to cycles is too hard lmao. I’ll go back for C side goldens once I’m done with this and 8c
My thumbs just started to hurt from remembering doing that
All in all took me 12K deaths to finish the game plus B & C Sides
I just got the plat the other day, no assist mode. What were your hardest ones? I thought 5c was the hardest overall, 7c was second but 8c was close. That last room killed me 175 times lol
I died 732 times on Summit C-Side...
I've gotten all 24 hearts and 129 strawberries, including the level 1 golden strawberry. Also visited the secret developer room.
Have never used assist mode.
Total: 11942 deaths, 36:54:56.395.
7C was by far the hardest. 1379 deaths 3:59:20.461
I literally have 17k deaths and still need to finish the c sides and get 20 more golden strawberries
Only 12k deaths!!! Jeez man, you're good
Finally beat it after 1800 deaths.
It was so hard to be consistent on the last screen, pull Madeline too far left by even a fraction of an inch and you'll hit spikes. Too far right, spikes. Put too much bounce on a cloud jump, spikes. Not enough bounce, spikes. It's brutal!!
Not to mention, the number of deaths directly caused by my analog stick sending me in an unintended direction..
My squeaky-ass analog stick had me stuck in that room for 8 hours
ma'am you are hardcore gamer my impatient guts gave up on 693 deaths by using assist.
i like to come back and watch this video from time to time to see what i did once and will never do again
As someone grinding through the B-Sides, this vid gave me tremendous anxiety. Nice work.
01:05 wow, they patched these spikes in? When I finished the game 2 weeks ago, those top-spikes were not there. Good to see that they improve the levels. But now I feel a bit ashamed, because I got to beat it the "easy way". Good skills man, I like it very much! :-)
It's not really a nerf. If you're anywhere near where those spikes are at, you're going to die either way
@@marine5546 I don't think these spikes make it any harder. Pretty sure they added them to make us spot the block easier.
@@rafadydkiemmacha7543 maybe you could climb onto that block and dash to the diamond?
@@Firefly256 you can't, you'll die to the spinner
but it makes it easier to practice spike jump (if you do spike jump you don't need to wall jump)
This game is diabolical. I made it through side A, that's about enough for me. Awesome video!
Many hours and over 500 deaths later, I beat this stage. And you know what? I loved it! I guess I became attached to the struggle, as it seems.
Now on to the level 8 C-side...
Good luck.
8c doesn't come close to this. No other screen does.
@@leopignataro 8c took me almost twice as much time as 7c
Lol I got 1200
There was no greater feeling in any of my gaming history of when I beat this level 9 hours after starting it.
Its really hard, specially the final screen, today I make my way to granny in the final screen, then after speak to her accidentally I fall into the pit before I can reach the golden heart, I have a mini heart attack before I realise that I respawn just next to the pink tree and granny to finally obtain that golden heart. XD
Same happened to me today! XD
this level was so damn annoying to clear but mostly through my own... fault? I somehow managed to cross the lower part and hit the spring after the cloud at 1:08 on a very early try and thought that was the intended way but struggled to get it to work even 5 times at most for a million tries after.
also 3C was a ton more annoying. I hate Oshiro jumps and the anxiety blobs.
I actually had more trouble going through the higher route so I just went below
I did the same!
Man screw this last room. Its so demoralizing one mess up or eaten input and your back to square one its so long and I can barely get to the third pink cloud before the final spike maze consistently. I have done the other C-sides no problem heck I even got the golden winged strawberry at the end of chapter 1 by not dashing for the whole level, But the last room if this C-side takes the cake for being annoying and evil not hard.
earthboundkid1 Keep at it man! You can do it!
1:02 I hate that cloud with all my heart, my soul and my guts
"The hardest level in Celeste"
*Laughs in Farewell D-Side*
There will be one day where Z-Side is a thing. It will most likely not happen.
Dumble King no no no no no no no stop don't no AAAAAAH
Wait theres a D side?
@Andrew Stanton demoknight tf2
there are D SIDES.
Geometry dash: i am the hardest! Community made me so!
Minecraft: well my community makes impossible mods!
Celeste: you guys need mods?
the first part doesn't punish and the second part is downright easy, but the third part took me a good hundred tries.
I was the same way, actually. The first part I only died 5 times, and the second part I got on my second try. Then I had 101 deaths on the last part.
@@nodastsakonas8296 people exaggerate cuz egos
@@nodastsakonas8296 Dont believe a word on internet.People lie.
Especially with celeste.Too much of their ego to reveal actual death count!!
SO many liar assholes on reddit too.lol.I died only ten times...only fifty times...only hundred times.
Liars..every one of them.
Dont feel bad abt yourself.I died three thousand time with five hours.
But now after trying and trying...i barley die ten times on this level.
Even got gold strawberry.:)
You become better with time.Never believe assholes on internet.
@@jigartalaviya2340 Umm... I died 0 times you guys suck 😂😂😂
jigar talaviya Did you have a bad day or something ?
C-Sides are such an interesting thing in Celeste. They’re super intense challenges, but also way, way shorter than the B-Sides. So you get a burst of challenge without it overstaying its welcome.
Someone died at that falling rock at the end and i find that hilarious
i am curious about what the old lady is going to say when you talk to her
"ARE YOU A FUCKING HACKER ?!"
"It's funny how we get attached to the struggle." Or something like that.
The best thing to say after you complete this insane level
Why did he just go like nope and run past her
She say that is sad because that is the final
I remember watching this soon after beating the summit for the first time, and thinking that I'd never be able to do something like this. Now I've beaten every b and c side, beaten chapter 9, and trying speedruns. Celeste is a great game.
interesting fact: when I was going through 7C with the golden berry and reached the very end, I decided to use several wave dashes to gain high speed and ended up falling down, but I didn't get confused and in the next attempt I went through all the screens and collected the heart
1:26
Granny: Hello Mad......
Madeline: Not now Granny
2 months ago i saw this and i thought: "there is no way i'm beating that".1026 deaths, 3 painful hours, and i just have completed 7c. I guess i'm ready for chapter 9
i see people talking about mirror-c being the hardest, but personally, i didn't struggle as long as i did with that level than i did with summit-c. the last room was complete hell to do
I don’t see how mirror C could possibly be the hardest
@@seanm9306 I got 500 deaths on the first room, it's a matter of watching the guide or not
Chapter 9 comb room took me 15 minutes
7C final room took me 3 hours
By far the hardest level for me personally. Mirror-C wasn't so bad once you understand/look up how you are supposed to do it, and Core-C is similarly long but has far easier plattforming.
you don't think I saw that sneaky cut at 0:51? still very impressive, well done
I like how he edited the song into the video separately so it wouldn't sound awkward when he cuts the video, smart!
I spent 3+ hours on this, and probably because I was using Joystick instead of Dpad, so I got a lot of missed inputs. I was so tempted to turn on Assist mode, but if I can't do this without assist, then what chance do I got for Farewell. However, I'm glad I persevered, the rush of adrenaline when I made that last dash for the wall was such a relief.
osu Fishy I’m stuck on this level and 2 hours in, but I will not forgo my joysticks
Even with assist dashing it still changes your dash like instead of up right it goes to down even when it shows up right so I get you
OH MY GOD
OHMYGOD
HOW
The last screen of 7c feels like doing a golden berry run of any c side. It’s too long to be enjoyable.
this one frustrated me so much because it was like i could picture where to go and exactly what to do but it just took tons of practice to make it so. reminded me of piano in a really big way
This is a cakewalk compared to Farewell lmao
Sure, Farewell takes longer, but no single screen is as difficult as this, not even close. No, not even the final screen. I can't see how someone who actually completed 7c can ever think that.
@@leopignataro I agree
@@leopignataro I admit figuring out how to consistently do wavedashing took me longer to do then this screen did. Once it clicked it wasn't too bad. As a whole the final segment in 7C is long and there's low margin for error but I don't find most individual parts of the last segment to be bad on their own, like with chapter 9 you often have to string together multiple advanced techniques, while here it's mainly just getting the perfect timing down on what's otherwise pretty simple techniques.
With 7C there's no one part that felt like hitting a brick wall, it was just stringing it all together at once that took some time, while with chapter 9 you have moments where you have to like activate a moving block, and wavedash into a walldash jump over crystals and grab back onto the block sort of thing.
@@dreamleaf552 I see what you mean, it's two different kinds of difficulty. Personally, I find the precision required in 7c much harder than the advanced technique in 9. Maybe because I'm on Switch.
@@leopignataro I play on PC so that might have something to do with it. Yeah, from a pure precision viewpoint I can see why people would find 7C harder, but when I factor in the struggle I had performing the advanced techniques initially in 9 it definitely made for more frustration. Now that I can perform the advanced techniques more consistently and have built up the muscle memory I might find 7C harder. As it stands I'd say the first room of 5C and the triple wavedash in chapter 9 the room after it's introduced are the two that took me the longest to beat, although they're both admittedly great ways to practice and learn those techniques too which is useful but initially they made me want to shoot myself.
When the block started falling I about had a heart attack
Chapter 9 : allow me to introduce myself
Personally, I just wanna puke at this amount of difficulty.
I will never even begin to understand how humans can be so good in this. I raise my hands up, I surrender. Totally inexplicable.
This made me upset.. I’m struggling on summit 13 and this is what I have to do later? 😭
Did you do it?
I’m so happy I beat it! It’s really fun, I’m going for the golden strawberry now!
So it took me nearly *5 hours* to beat this
Edit: Also this is the only level so far that I was tempted to use assist mode on. I didn't use it though.
Took me 4h 40min. 1450 attempts. Got me doubting myself.
@@leopignataro it's pretty tough. Good luck on chapter 9 if you decide to try it (I think it took me 8 hours on my first try).
@@reddarmi8593 I went to chapter 9 straight after 8A, not realizing it was a DLC... But I quickly realized something was wrong hehe! So I'm working my way through the B sides and C sides, and even got some A side golden berries (1, 2, 4, 5 and 6), now I'm off to 8C and then, finally, 9. I don't mind spending hours if it's on different screens, and I know chapter 9 is huge, IMO the longer the better. But 5 hours on ONE screen, that's just insane!! I was starting to consider buying celeste for PC (I'm on switch) just to get a better controller so that I could beat this dammed screen
@_______ yes, I did! Very challenging indeed, but IMO no single screen is anywhere as hard as this one.
I legit spent like 80 minutes in front of my computer playing the last level non-stop, 362 deaths... holy shit dude definitely the hardest level I've seen until now (I'm afraid of chapter 9)
i havent even beaten all of the B-sides yet,wow.
Idk why but the drop at 0:58 is just so hard for me. Everything else is hard at first, but eventually gets consistent. I can never get consistent here.
Well 5C took me 1300+ deaths and 7C took me 667 deaths. While 5C was frustrating and had me thinking I could never do it, 7C was fun and I genuinely enjoyed getting better and better at mastering each step.
I actually thought 5C was harder than this too. To be honest, 8-B was the hardest for me. But this is the level most people think is most difficult.
literally the reverse for me... lol
5C was really tough at first but then somehow at the 13 minute mark it all just clicked in mind lmao.
I played through farewell after all the C-Sides. I still think 7c last screen is still harder than any screen in farewell lmao. At least in farewell things were fun, 7c last screen is just hell
So after 3+ hours and 1100 deaths, the third screen of 7C takes the cake for me as the most brutal. 5C was more challenging to figure out, more technical, and as it ended up, my run didn't look anything like the runs I see on RUclips, now that I'm done and am allowing myself to look this stuff up (I made it through the third screen doing only two boosted wall jumps). But I can figure out puzzles, and even if it was tough to execute, it took nowhere near the precision and focus that 7C did.
I did try to train myself to use the D-pad during this stage, because I hear it's easier, but the analog stick is so ingrained into me that I just couldn't do it. I'm not really sure if I'm making it harder on myself for that or not, but analog control on the Switch is how I finally beat it
I'm the same way. I played through the whole game using the analog stick - largely because the D-Pad on the X-Box controller is trash - but I felt like if I really wanted to commit to the game and be elite I needed to play with a D-Pad.
Plenty of top players use analogue, it’s all personal preference. It’s easier to make sure you get the desired input on a d pad, but for me analogue is far more intuitive and my gameplay flows way more with it. Everything is stilted when i try and use the d pad and I find myself way too focused on which buttons to press on the dpad to actually work my dash, jump and climb.
I’m currently on the 3rd screen, with switch analogue as my only option. Any tips to get past this bit?
It depends on what exactly it is you're struggling with. A lot of my deaths were missed timing, so it came down to just not screwing that up. But something I was able to fix were my missed inputs. I realized that my dashing in the wrong direction was a product of my posture. By not sitting straight with the controller directly in front of me (I was sitting at an angle with the controller doing the same, in a sort of relaxed position), my analog inputs tended to be misaligned. Once I started sitting straight, I cut out the vast majority of my misinputs.
I also invested in a $20 wired controller, rather than the joycons. _Slightly_ better on latency than the wireless joycons, which helped a small bit with timing (we're talking a small number of frames here, though when it comes to 7C, even 2 frames can make or break an attempt). Though the controller is bigger than the joycons, so it took a little getting used to. Helpful overall.
The great thing about this game is that every mistake is your fault in some way or another. If you're able to think about why you died, you can think about what to do to correct it. Hopefully you aren't making the mistake of blaming the game for your screw ups.
Tiler I’m making good progress now, all i have left is the final section with the dash refresh crystals. Definitely going to try fixing my posture, it’s awful lmao. Thanks for the advice, I’m hoping to beat this and move on to 8c pretty soon! :)
Update- managed to beat both this and 8c, my final death count was 17k, 2k of which was on this level alone 😂 Thanks for the help :)
I need to talk to whoever decided not to put a checkpoint before 1:10
yes bro I would've finished at oike 500 deaths if there was
then it would be nowhere near the hardest rooms though
@@satosmi9408 every other room did it I’m pretty sure
I failed at 1:17 my life feels empty
Edit: i jsit fcking did it after 1 and a half hours and i nearly died when jummping to the heart
If you die at the heart you thankfully don't have to redo that last stage
When you deathless it but realize you forgot golden strawberry
Raise your hand if you prefer using the control stick instead of the d-pad in 2D games o/
I prefer control stick, but for this level I switched to d-pad cause I kept accidentally dashing the wrong way
I use keyboard, so no idea
One thing I noticed just now, thanks to the video, is that Chapter 7-C's ending is Chapter 9's beginning.
Er, it starts from the end of chapter 7-C.
That tree look beautiful remind me of cherry blossom
Maybe it IS a cherry blossom tree?
Yup beautiful but you won't notice this when you like dying repeating the course over and over and over.
2 hours, 691 deaths. Had to beat the last screen twice because my pc crashed when i was talking to grandma ._.
I was furious lol, but calm enough to get it..
“Hardest level in Celeste” Laughs in Golden Berry
farewell golden berry is harder tho
Arian06m omg farewell golden is just pain
The end the devs got so tired they just said “Spike Maze” and it was done
I died more times on this than all the other c sides put together🤦🏾♂️
1:14 i am stuck at this part no matter what i do i always go too far, what do i do??
Instead of dashing right, loose a bit of height and dash up-right. I, too, lost many tries attempting to replicate the right dash shown here.
Farewell : Hold my beer
Almost 9 hours, 1843 deaths later I finally did it, I didn't give up, took some help with videos but I finally did it. :)
Just died 338 times before I finally beat this one. I still can't believe I beat this lol. After I beat the Core C-Side, it'll be time to hang it up.
That last stretch I was never able to beat for years
Honestly this is the least fun C-side by far to me. Making a level super long is the lamest way of making it difficult.
It's quite clear that Matt Thorson hit his head and got amnesia - completely forgetting what a checkpoint is - while making this level.
@@GitGuder OH MY GOD. I just choked and died dashing for the heart and my whole life flashed before my eyes before I realized there was a checkpoint.
This is actually my favorite C-Side. The whole last section is really precise, but not too bad imo. The part *I* hate is the beginning with the 5 'up-dash-wall-jump' things in a row.
I hated the c side of world 8.
I needed to use the assist mode only to pass the last obstacle, because I wasn't good with the new mechanic and there was no checkpoint to learn it.
@@MrHappy4311 at least the first room is forgiving. You can catch onto the ledge if you miss and try again.
Last room is so much memorizing
That one cloud jump…I always took the lower route since I still cannot figure out how to weave around the crystals and go over.
I have a golden strawberry for this one
i´ve been sitting here for hours (around 6) and still havent beaten it XD. however i wont give up, some breaks help wonders sometimes xd
Finally achieved the platinum for this game and this lvl by far was the hardest. Excluding chapter 9 of course. But this level took me 1,929 tries 😂 “funny how we get attached to the struggle”
This was one of the hardest to beat but I wouldn't say the hardest
You know devs were giving no mercy with having to do that pixel perfect wall jump on that little block 1:06.
its the easiest part of the screen actually
Well here's the thing - since i am pretty bad at corner bounce (can't get it consistently) i just dashed to the right side of the block and then did a neutral jump to get the crystal. Never failed to do that :)
This level is the reason Madeleine has anxiety
I gotta ask, how many attempts did this take?
I don't have my computer right now so I can't check, but if memory serves I had 108 deaths.
You are gud, Git gud. It took me like, 500 deaths to do the a-side on this level. And I had to assist mode the b-side.
Damn, it took me ~1700 deaths and 6 hours to do just this C-side
A little under 2 hours (after getting to the third screen in 8 minutes may I add) and a little over 650 deaths.
Bro i just did it today and it took me like 5 hours and over 1000 deaths...ive been known to be a super patient guy...and even my line of sanity was beggining to run thin
Is this the whole level? Like, does it not have the iterations of every area like the original summit?
PS: Still loving your content.
Yes it is the whole level, all C side are composed of 3 area, wich are absolutly insane, i died 500 times on that last screen...
As Tomoire said, this is all there is to this level. The C-Sides use the same types of hazards, but don't tend to stick as closely to the themes as the B-Sides. Most people say this is the level they had the most trouble with in the game. Personally this one wasn't too bad for me. I had more trouble with Chapter 8 B-Side. I made a map of this level before I ever played it, and that probably helped a lot. I had already looked ahead to see what I was dealing with and had a good idea of what I needed to do to get through it.
The B-sides are harder versions of the originals, but generally C-sides are just a couple of very difficult challenges using the level's attributes, rather than actually being like the level. So this level doesn't have other area iterations, Mirror Temple C-side has no Madeline chucking Theo around or monsters, Reflection C-side has no boss fight, etc.
POV : You’re wondering how you have gotten the golden strawberry of this level in a small amount of tries even thought it’s supposed to be one of the hardest levels in Celeste while watching this video (totally not me I swear!1!!1!)
Hey! You gonna do anything for Chapter 9? Its insane!!
I haven't tried it yet.
@@GitGuder you ought to try it sometime! I'm sure you'll do great!
Fair warning, it's a tad long.
6 hours, I think I hit my limit this time... Had to pull up assist mode invincivility to practice that last part...
It's actually funny how easy this level becomes after you complete it once. After you get in the flow for long enough to actually beat it, you can do so pretty reliably. After spending maybe 2 hours doing this level, I was able to get the golden strawberry in 5 attempts. Not to mention how much Farewell puts this level into perspective.
Same
God, can you imagine doing all of that and then dying at 1:19? Personally, took me an hour to do that final screen and I damn near had a heart attack when I heard the "crumbling" sound from the block.
*I HAVE CLIMBED THE C-SIDE*
And I congratulate all with me.
P.S. I agree
That third screen is the one that finally broke me. Maybe I'll best this game one day.
You can do this
i discovered the assist mode just at the end if this chapter, and im like, well fuck it, its the end of the game, let me just slow this down to 70% so i wont accidentally dash into the spikes for the hundred time.
I can't seem to get through 1:11-1:19 part in video I don't get how to get though such a confined place so quickly. If anyone can give me tips or ideas, it'd be much appreciated.
I just learned the pattern by heart tbh. Though I found that at 1:13 it helps to wait just a little bit then do an up-right diagonal dash. That way you never crash into the spikes. Besides that just keep practicing and you will eventually get there!
And remember: You can do it
No
1:26 can't believe madeline didn't talk to elderbug
wait...
Feel like the b side for this was way harder. Maybe if you're counting no deaths then this is though.
I actually agree. I thought the L7 and L8 B-Sides were both harder than this. Most people I've talked to have said they thought this was the hardest level, though.
I’d say this is harder to beat than the b side, but the golden is wayyy more difficult on the B side. Way too long to be doable for me
@@GitGuder true