One Celeste Screen for Every Difficulty

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  • Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2023
  • Could help some people understand the community rankings for difficulty better, or just a silly video
    Mods used:
    Strawberry Jam gamebanana.com/mods/424541
    Delusional Canopy gamebanana.com/mods/371770
    Monika's D-sides gamebanana.com/mods/150759
    Moon of the ultras gamebanana.com/mods/365379
    //MOCE// gamebanana.com/mods/409812
    LPL collab gamebanana.com/mods/455644
    Election D-side gamebanana.com/mods/382667
    Crystal Garden gamebanana.com/mods/150652
    Dashless+ gamebanana.com/mods/430430
    Clips used for Moon of the ultras, cpvl ,crystal garden and dashless+ from woofdoggo, clip for gddh from masrock9, clip for lxvi from Clantis and the election d clip was a TAS made by me.
    Hardlist link: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/...
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Комментарии • 707

  • @theblueberrypi6152
    @theblueberrypi6152 6 месяцев назад +1373

    The moment when you are watching expert and think there’s not much left because this already looks humanly impossible then you realize you are only one-third through the video

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame 6 месяцев назад +16

      Okay but how th expert looks humanly impossible

    • @Martin-fb9pb
      @Martin-fb9pb 6 месяцев назад +66

      ​​@@gmdFrameI like to watch some Celeste map clears from time to time to see how I'm progressing, it's a great feeling. I started seeing Expert as humanly impossible, and now that I am advanced yellow-red I can see myself doing it in the (not so near) future.
      Now Grandmaster and beyond, when I become a TAS bot we may talk about those.

    • @jamesmckenna2559
      @jamesmckenna2559 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Martin-fb9pbgrandmaster is hard but like if you grind there should be some maps that you can do even now, the tech knowledge is normally a pretty strong barrier to entry. However i know of people who just skipped straight to gm maps because they wanted to. Like lava layer is a techless gm map in the strawberry jam collab and it would take a few hours but I feel like an advanced player could grind it out. Just have faith in yourself its often not as impossible as it looks(until you hit red gm and beyond)

    • @Faunarr
      @Faunarr 5 месяцев назад +1

      Its probably weird for me but uh, I always saw Expert maps as doable. I'm currently finishing a red Advanced map. I started playing SJ like 2-4 days ago and wanted to see which level I'm okay with. So far red advanced is still pretty easy to me. So I'm gonna move onto green expert once I'm done with that map which will probably be by the end of today. I every level in Celeste within 31 hours of playing it. The only thing I haven't done is the golden berries but I'll probably do that when I can be bothered to do them.

    • @PrivateForPersonalReasons
      @PrivateForPersonalReasons 4 месяца назад

      The fact I read this at that exact moment

  • @noobrownies101
    @noobrownies101 4 месяца назад +542

    "us presidential election d-side" has got to be the funniest name for a celeste mod ever

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 месяца назад +135

      the 2000s american housing crisis is also awesome

    • @jftyjghj
      @jftyjghj 4 месяца назад +3

      Moce cpcl

    • @SquishGD
      @SquishGD 2 месяца назад +14

      iirc the full name is Madeline votes in the 2020 U.S. presidential election D side

    • @karamboubou8579
      @karamboubou8579 Месяц назад +15

      There's a map called "The 2000's American Housing Crisis" with room names like "Macroeconomic Trends in Southeast Asia Suggest Long Road to Recovery"

    • @misscatbird
      @misscatbird 24 дня назад

      @@jftyjghjcpvl*

  • @ruv_the_real
    @ruv_the_real 4 месяца назад +212

    Everything up to expert: learning mechanics and the actual movement
    Grandmaster: SPEEEEEEEEEEEEED!
    Grandmaster+ : precision to the level of a thread though a needle blindfolded with numb hands

  • @Q______o
    @Q______o 6 месяцев назад +1938

    Hopefully this shows non celeste players that we are not just playing hard maps to be masochists but because there's an actual progression in difficulty and eventually those are fine. Also that we don't beat everything by muscle memory or something
    Except Gm + 2 basically no matter what you're spending like minimum 2 hours per room

    • @OfficialEtherial
      @OfficialEtherial 6 месяцев назад +1

      Whatever's good for you, Masochist.

    • @laceylopp7039
      @laceylopp7039 6 месяцев назад +184

      we don’t beat everything by muscle memory??

    • @khalfy_kun
      @khalfy_kun 6 месяцев назад +293

      But. . . We are masochists! We do beat everything by muscle memory! We're also all trans for some reason!

    • @Icomplaintoomuch
      @Icomplaintoomuch 6 месяцев назад +92

      @@khalfy_kunAs a beginner trans Celester, can confirm. I dont feel good playing farewell, but cant get myself to stop, and always beat rooms due to muscle memory.

    • @charteon9092
      @charteon9092 6 месяцев назад +26

      Yeah no, I’ve only just finished sj intermediate lobby and I’m gonna be honest, it all eventually becomes muscle memory. Im really bad at improvising, (which sucks when going for golden strawberries

  • @bunshine
    @bunshine 6 месяцев назад +592

    for the record, for those who don't play celeste, the vast majority of maps do not go past grandmaster. it is only a tiny miniscule amount of extremely hardcore maps that are deliberately that hard. there's like maybe just a couple maps beyond gm+1. i have no interest in these personally! but i've played loads of celeste, so i'm here to let y'all know that there is sooo so much lovely stuff to enjoy even in just beginner!!

    • @fearacha965
      @fearacha965 6 месяцев назад +30

      I'm confused. I finished the game. I'm at the b-side of the summit. I didn't even know there were c-sides. And some of those other maps also don't look like they are from the game.
      Are they mods or how do you unlock those?

    • @AttyPatty3
      @AttyPatty3 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@fearacha965yes all the maps from hellow advanced onwards are not in the game and are modded maps. Modded celeste is a joy to play and you should definitely try it out!

    • @byrne1807
      @byrne1807 6 месяцев назад

      @@fearacha965mods, abc sides for chapters 1-8 plus chapter 9 are base game (technically farewell is dlc but) and everything else in here is a mod

    • @thecodewarrior7925
      @thecodewarrior7925 6 месяцев назад

      @@fearacha965they’re using the Everest mod loader

    • @andermium
      @andermium 5 месяцев назад +64

      @@fearacha965 Anything after Summit C-side shown in this video is mods. Check the description for those maps. C-sides should unlock when you complete all B-sides. And while they have harder screens, they're only 3 screens long so not as demanding as B-sides in terms of endurance.

  • @remlolkek
    @remlolkek 4 месяца назад +153

    "oh cool, he's just connected different playthro-"
    7:49 WHAT THE FU

  • @lumi7292
    @lumi7292 5 месяцев назад +323

    as someone who's only played the base game, i shit my pants when i saw summit c-side, widely regarded as the hardest level, placed on the easier side of advanced. Really helps put into perspective just how dedicated the community must be. Great vid :3

    • @taylor3621
      @taylor3621 4 месяца назад +23

      Same, I just beat Summit C-Side today and I was waiting for Farewell to appear... goodness I was wrong.

    • @minedone1236
      @minedone1236 3 месяца назад +13

      I found Chapter 3 C Side harder than Chapter 7 C Side 😅
      I liked chapter 7 C Side, it was perfect difficulty for me

    • @legendfinder
      @legendfinder 2 месяца назад +5

      @@minedone1236 Same. Chapter 7 C-side is the right amount of difficulty for me to come back to it and feel good about beating it every time. Although Farewell's final screen is shapin up to take its place for me.

    • @matzck9674
      @matzck9674 Месяц назад +4

      The final screen of farewell is pretty much a 2min long intermediate green screen. The length and the stress involved makes the difficulty of it, but execution wise once you've cleared it once it doesn't hold a candle to some of the earlier screens in farewell or 7/8C

    • @misscatbird
      @misscatbird 24 дня назад

      7c final isn’t even advanced lol, it’s like yellow intermediate

  • @aloysiuskurnia7643
    @aloysiuskurnia7643 2 месяца назад +91

    As a nonplayer, it goes from "dang that looks pretty hard already" to "boi this looks impossible to me" to "this looks entertaining" as my brain just giving up seeing those as meant to be played lmao

    • @freshstat1csnow
      @freshstat1csnow Месяц назад +5

      i'm decent at celeste and know a fair bit about the movement tech involved in the harder mods and i still wouldn't be able to do most of them within this lifetime lmao

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 4 дня назад +1

      ⁠@@freshstat1csnowI thought that when I was in like advanced-expert too. Like 7 months later, I beat CPVL ( 8:34 ) and I’m almost done with Avian Ascension which is I think red gm+1
      Edit: I beat Avian!

    • @lingyuanyan1722
      @lingyuanyan1722 11 часов назад

      How long ago were you in Advanced expert? I am just gearing up to do the advanced heart side I. SJ after fjnishjng the rest of the levels

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 11 часов назад

      @@lingyuanyan1722 Around half a year ago

  • @mystral_fox
    @mystral_fox 6 месяцев назад +434

    although dashless+ r24 Is no longer gm+3 due to strats, it is gm+3 with the way dan cleared it (which is the way shown in the video so its still correct) :3

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 месяцев назад +12

      Yeah I was about to say this lmao

    • @WeeklyDoseOfCeleste
      @WeeklyDoseOfCeleste 6 месяцев назад +18

      Yeah i actually can't believe just how much r24 has been supplanted in terms of difficulty due to what has been found.

    • @toshii2198
      @toshii2198 6 месяцев назад +6

      How is GM+3 defined at the moment? Afair GM+2 was anything harder than AA?

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@toshii2198 if a room is harder than Venus (hardest +2 room iirc?) then it’s gm+3
      No idea if Venus is the hardest +2 room or not but I remember it being the hardest

    • @mystral_fox
      @mystral_fox 6 месяцев назад +22

      @@toshii2198 It's not defined , at all . and it won't be for a while probably, it's just fully based off of feel

  • @leafar08
    @leafar08 6 месяцев назад +226

    As a "Farewell last room completed" player, I feel non existent 😢

    • @MAML_
      @MAML_ 6 месяцев назад +4

      green-yellow advanced

    • @olekkatan6614
      @olekkatan6614 5 месяцев назад +50

      @@MAML_ red int

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 месяцев назад +61

      @@olekkatan6614 If I'm not mistaken, there are a few rooms in Farewell that would be considered green advanced by Strawberry Jam standards, but it's ofc pretty subjective and regardless most of the level is around the difficulty of SJ's red int

    • @pachicore
      @pachicore 5 месяцев назад +7

      I still think 7 C-side is like the hardest thing i've done in this game (i've only completed up to Monika's 3 D side)

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@pachicore Yeah that room's a contender for green advanced, I've seen it debated.
      And most people I've talked to consider it harder than any room in farewell, except maybe Comb Room

  • @RioRock7
    @RioRock7 4 месяца назад +54

    Im coming to this video cause I wanted to see how hard this game got. Bro I didn’t even realize that C sides even existed.

    • @imakevideos687
      @imakevideos687 2 месяца назад +4

      I honestly think the c sides are easier than the b sides. C sides are way shorter but have harder rooms

    • @RioRock7
      @RioRock7 2 месяца назад +3

      @@imakevideos687 yeah after doing them I would agree.

  • @nuzzlx
    @nuzzlx 4 месяца назад +51

    As someone who hasnt played Celeste since 2019, I full on yelled "PLUS THREE?!" when you got to Grandmaster +3 lmfao, fully expected +2 to be the last difficulty.

    • @NottSaying
      @NottSaying 4 месяца назад

      you think that's bad? Wait till you hear about +0

    • @henzelman5218
      @henzelman5218 4 месяца назад +1

      AND THIS IS EVEN FURTHER BEYOND! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

    • @dry4smash946
      @dry4smash946 3 месяца назад

      ⁠@@NottSayingthats for goldens, goldens are separated into tiers going downwards (so like from tier 9 for example going downwards to tier 0)

    • @paolarei4418
      @paolarei4418 25 дней назад

      ​@@dry4smash946Why didn't they do it upward then._.

    • @dry4smash946
      @dry4smash946 25 дней назад

      @@paolarei4418 whhhhy not, you cant answer every question in life after all 😌

  • @i_Soar
    @i_Soar 6 месяцев назад +25

    0:00: Actual screens
    4:21 onward: Mental illnesses

  • @goober444
    @goober444 6 месяцев назад +237

    so much of the earlier part is straight up wrong but past advanced green its all good.

    • @squibster81
      @squibster81 6 месяцев назад +53

      I mean I only really disagreed with the pick for beginner red and intermediate yellow. For beginner red he should’ve gone with like flag 2 instead of 2500m orb, and intermediate yellow could’ve been a room from later in 5b. Oh also intermediate red should’ve been like 5c final instead of 1c.

    • @rice2cu5881
      @rice2cu5881 6 месяцев назад +10

      @@squibster81 I mean, that is a fair amount. Personally I'd say from green int to green adv is pretty inaccurate and then the rest is reasonable enough. Beginner does span from around 1a to 7a so it's not too far off.

    • @lingyuanyan1722
      @lingyuanyan1722 11 часов назад

      I think they were trying to show a gradual increase in difficulty for a non player who doesn’t know about SJ. For an outsider that difficulty spike may seem too steep.

  • @astrumleaf
    @astrumleaf 6 месяцев назад +105

    they've got to come up with better names for higher difficulties

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 месяцев назад +88

      there've been some names like astral and celestial for the gm+ difficulties but I'm not the biggest fan of them and most people aren't calling the difficulties by those names

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 6 месяцев назад +31

      gm+ is easier to understand though

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 месяцев назад +55

      Names for gm+ are so bad lmao
      Keeping it as +1 or +2 is easy to understand and also doesn’t cause confusion as long as you know what gm means

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@petrikhorr True lmao

    • @aaaton55
      @aaaton55 6 месяцев назад +47

      @@egfloggygoggy Personally I'd like to nominate gm+1 = grandgrandmaster, gm+2 = grandgrandgrandmaster, gm+3 = grandgrandgrandgrandmaster

  • @atomikaI
    @atomikaI 4 месяца назад +31

    I'm a fan of celeste but not super involved in the community. I 100% the base game and tried out strawberry jam, but quit near the end of the intermediate lobby when the levels started becoming more annoying than fun for me. I was aware that super hard levels existed far beyond my skill range, but still considered myself a fairly decent player, at least until watching this video lol. I could never have the patience or precision for jumpless+

  • @esteb7496
    @esteb7496 6 месяцев назад +54

    Very good video that will probably be useful to a lot of new players

  • @codeninja3295
    @codeninja3295 5 месяцев назад +32

    very good video! based on what i’ve seen in strawberry jam, i feel like a lot of beginner and intermediate stuff is harder than the examples you gave (though i might be wrong/misremembering), but this was fun to watch.
    also, as an intermediate player, the later difficulty demonstrations start to lose meaning because all those levels fall into the category of “this looks humanly impossible why do people play this” lol

    • @favretheundead
      @favretheundead 25 дней назад +1

      some of sj's difficulties (especially beginner and int) are slightly inflated difficulty wise compared to the usual definitions: begginner = 1a-2b, int=3b-farewell, adv=7c3+, expert=monika's d-sides

    • @codeninja3295
      @codeninja3295 21 день назад

      @@favretheundead ah, i didn’t know that, thanks! that explains a lot; my celeste mod knowledge is almost entirely limited to strawberry jam lol

  • @frejawennberg3454
    @frejawennberg3454 6 месяцев назад +85

    This really shows for me how I’ve progressed. Still I am not very good and it takes thousands of deaths but I was struggling on a-side of most chapters and now I’m on chapter 4 or 5 b side. Still very difficult for me but knowing I’m getting better is so rewarding

    • @SG2048-meta
      @SG2048-meta 5 месяцев назад +4

      Nice job! Where are you at now? I’m currently struggling on 7C.

  • @OtterCon
    @OtterCon 5 месяцев назад +21

    After not playing Celeste in so many years, i finally got it on sale on steam not long ago, and it's pleasing to see that I'm sitting in the intermediate area! Excited to get into the custom content in time

  • @iamdonewitheverything
    @iamdonewitheverything 2 месяца назад +11

    3:00 Bee Berserk is probably the most funnest map I have played in the advanced section of SJ, the difficulty isn't too hard, and best of all is that the stamina is infinite 👍👍

    • @K0nomi
      @K0nomi Месяц назад +1

      100% agreed, its so fun

  • @dandyspacedandy
    @dandyspacedandy 3 месяца назад +10

    grandmaster+ levels look like malevolent entities of eldritch origin that you must take care not to upset, lest you fall prey to its many hazards and are consumed like the players who've come before you and the players who will come after.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  3 месяца назад +1

      its fun

    • @dandyspacedandy
      @dandyspacedandy 3 месяца назад

      @@egfloggygoggy they literally have teeth with which to eat you

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Месяц назад +2

      ⁠@@dandyspacedandy good thing you can jump off them sometimes

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Месяц назад +1

      also now I notice you say eldritch entities, the inputs to pass a GM level is more like a ritual
      do these actions at the correct time to appease the entity so that it doesn’t eat you. (meanwhile, TASes are just good enough to defeat the entity outright)

  • @ExtemTheHedgehogLol
    @ExtemTheHedgehogLol 6 месяцев назад +47

    surprised that farewell isn't on this list honestly

    • @-Logan_Word-7437
      @-Logan_Word-7437 6 месяцев назад +21

      Everything on this list you see past 7c is WAY harder than farewell, although I do agree that maybe the moon berry room is around the same difficulty as some of the c sides’ final rooms

    • @nicolascostantino4370
      @nicolascostantino4370 5 месяцев назад +21

      From what Im seeing Farewell isnt difficult for any particular room its just the first endurance test new players will come across. Where 7c, while short, has one very difficult screen with the first intro of actually precise movement. Probably the hardest thing mechanically in the base game if we just go on each individual jump rather than the 5 minute section in farewell. Plus it fits easier into a video like this

    • @ziwuri
      @ziwuri 5 месяцев назад +10

      farewell averages around intermediate difficulty and peaks at low advanced

    • @flango348
      @flango348 4 месяца назад +5

      It used the same mechanics as deep blue (a red intermediate) but isn’t really as difficult, so it might squeeze into red intermediate.

    • @DogeBlaster4000
      @DogeBlaster4000 4 месяца назад

      in my opinion farewells final room as well as the moon berry room are both a lot more difficult than the final room of 7c@@-Logan_Word-7437

  • @beans7747
    @beans7747 3 месяца назад +9

    i just finished my first sub 1-hour speedrun of celeste. saw this video and thought, i wonder if i know any of these. little did i know advanced green was the hardest i had ever done.

  • @digestivepikachu3721
    @digestivepikachu3721 4 месяца назад +21

    GDDH appears
    There’s 6 minutes left
    The next level is called US Presidential Election D-Side

  • @hungrypizzafox
    @hungrypizzafox 4 месяца назад +2

    This is just insane! I struggled on the last C side level and gave up, the fact these guys still pushed through on the most crazy levels and actually took the time to complete them is literally god tier! Props to anyone who made such a crazy accomplishment.

  • @Nyx__
    @Nyx__ 2 месяца назад +2

    After advanced I couldn't even grasp what was happening most of the time

  • @leonhard6327
    @leonhard6327 6 месяцев назад +25

    After Expert I would be lost to some extent. Didn't get around to do many ultras and beyond yet.
    But I enjoyed seeing what is still to come, when I find the time to refine my skills |-')

  • @Lemony123
    @Lemony123 Месяц назад +3

    I just finished the summit like 3 days ago. Watching this make me wanna cry.

  • @beartheperson
    @beartheperson 3 месяца назад +4

    It's interesting to see how the progression goes from slow gameplay to levels of speed where it's hard to see your character, but then it slows down and relies more on precision.

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 2 месяца назад +3

      making extremely hard speed maps generally means stupidly dense inputs that can be physically painful to input
      so not yet, but we'll get there

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 месяца назад +2

      @@erierierierierie oh man there definitely will be one of those soon…

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 2 месяца назад +1

      @@egfloggygoggy ohhhh man

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 4 дня назад

      @@egfloggygoggyhmmm….. 🤔 I sure wonder what you meant by this

  • @setk1189
    @setk1189 27 дней назад +2

    I love how spikes are more of a suggestion than a hazard in this game.

  • @artificers-predecessor
    @artificers-predecessor 3 месяца назад +2

    Man, simply WATCHING a playthrough of kevintechspam sends dopamine rushing through my brain. That map is just awesome. The music is also stuck in my head.

  • @zuggo
    @zuggo 6 месяцев назад +8

    you are my favourite dashless+ player!!!

  • @Cassiow106
    @Cassiow106 Месяц назад +1

    My ego was hurt, but my eyes were pleased by the skill displayed

  • @Potato79107
    @Potato79107 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is madness good job

  • @sootchibootchi
    @sootchibootchi 4 месяца назад +2

    Can barely even comprehend what's happening on those SJ maps, props to dedicated Celeste players!

  • @ModestToast3073
    @ModestToast3073 4 месяца назад +6

    Just finished superstructure last night. Scared to tackle the rest of SJ lol. Some of those levels look absolutely insane.

    • @iamdonewitheverything
      @iamdonewitheverything 3 месяца назад +1

      Have you beaten Tower XVI yet, probably the most struggling level in SJ Advanced.

    • @TheOneWhoHasABadName
      @TheOneWhoHasABadName Месяц назад +1

      tower XVI should be green expert, if the routing puzzle aspect wouldn’t be broken by the extra tech in expert
      should have made it cracked advanced

  • @bryxer7v7
    @bryxer7v7 4 месяца назад +1

    I've been playing celeste on and off for along time now like 4 years, I can get to mid intermediate if I put my all into it, this game is hard but fun somehow, I always love when I beat something I lost to a lot, the feeling of triumphant and beating that damn level is what brings me back.
    and also my ego. :P

  • @tofufiish
    @tofufiish 6 месяцев назад +14

    lets go i love nelumbo (unbiased opinion)

  • @lamura1874
    @lamura1874 2 месяца назад +3

    the jump between expert and grandmaster seems quite insane, and i myself am at a low expert level, so yeah
    idk i'll see once i get there

  • @xolimono
    @xolimono 6 месяцев назад +6

    SUPERSTRUCTURE APPEARANCE

    • @SSP2056
      @SSP2056 6 месяцев назад

      Favorite advanced map imo

  • @DDi-bh3ud
    @DDi-bh3ud 2 месяца назад +1

    the progression here is so similar to dustforce and it’s such a shame it’s so slept on

  • @littlebigb5370
    @littlebigb5370 Месяц назад

    My biggest achievement in the game so far is seeing that Mirror Temple B-side segment, almost crying at how long it looked, and then, through sheer luck and reaction, doing it all in one attempt.

  • @REMdonor
    @REMdonor 5 месяцев назад +1

    this is freaking crazy

  • @ImpureVessel
    @ImpureVessel 2 месяца назад +1

    7:36 The Knight appears, testing itself on platforming challenges on its quest to find a voice to cry suffering

  • @shadxw6281
    @shadxw6281 3 месяца назад +4

    Just here to say my piece. 7c3 is much harder than modded players give it credit. The last section is very awkward, and you need to target certain parts of the springs (not to mention that one drop down part). Sure, all tech needs a 5 frame timing, but it's the same universally so extended tech is pretty free. I'd put 7c3 in yellow advanced, and that room of bee beserk in green. The last room of it is harder than 7c3 though

  • @SG2048-meta
    @SG2048-meta 5 месяцев назад +2

    I’m finally in the advanced section! I’ve nearly beaten 7C now, so it’s only a matter of time before I’m there!

  • @user-rx2oc5tl3u
    @user-rx2oc5tl3u 5 месяцев назад +3

    As a person who thought gm was the highest, I was just in awe at the maps that are gm +3

  • @firemayro
    @firemayro 5 месяцев назад +12

    you know it gets real when they make 71 different acronyms without spelling out the name

  • @ColonelCatDad
    @ColonelCatDad Месяц назад

    i just started playing SJ and these harder maps are actually gonna hive me a heart attack 😭

  • @-Silent_G-
    @-Silent_G- 6 месяцев назад +51

    Good video but the beginner to green advanced doesnt make sense. Farewell at most is red intermediate and for most of the level is just yellow int. Everything else in the base game including b sides is green int at the highest. For example, 7C only requires to to be a bit precise and know how to do wall bounces, but then the next highest difficulty you put requires you to know how to wave dash, hyper, super, know bubble dash tech, hyper bunnyhops(if im right), wallbounces, and reverse tech. Didn't mean to type this much but yee.

    • @MagicianStevey
      @MagicianStevey 6 месяцев назад +24

      The reason why that’s the case (why 7c3 requires so little tech compared to the next map) is because the other map is modded
      Modded maps utilize tech much more than vanilla, and also have different playstyles. 7c3 is an example of a non tech pure precision based screen, while most modded screens are based off of knowing how to use and perform tech while also being precise.
      It’s also commonly believed that farewell goes up to green advanced, with final and moonberry being the ones that make it go up to advanced.
      I think the list probably could’ve been improved if every single map in it was modded so the difference in play styles is more reasonable.

    • @EinsteinsBarber
      @EinsteinsBarber 6 месяцев назад +7

      @@MagicianStevey i still dont agree with that, if you compare to the maps in sj for example green beginner is about the same difficulty as (maybe slightly harder than) 7a, and there are plenty of rooms in int that are harder than farewell. it maybe used to be considered advanced, but no longer. summit c side is also probably like red beginner-green int.
      not all modded maps are about using tech either, there are plenty even at high difficulties that use little to no tech (cmb and lava layer are great examples in gm)

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@EinsteinsBarberfarewell definitely feels a little more like mid-high intermediate, especially during the middle CPs with stuff like comb room

    • @SG2048-meta
      @SG2048-meta 5 месяцев назад

      @@EinsteinsBarberme at summit C-side reading this, thinking I reached advanced level:

    • @Hgtjb
      @Hgtjb 5 месяцев назад +1

      После того как я поиграл в моды, вся селеста теперь beginner lobby

  • @NoThePizzaGone
    @NoThePizzaGone 4 месяца назад +5

    I've completed all of the base game, and I got into modding a while ago. I personally think that Forsaken City C-Side should be placed in Mid or Easy Intermediate, but maybe I just had an easier time with it than others.

  • @sladerade8476
    @sladerade8476 6 месяцев назад +7

    I have never played Celeste but after this, idk if I even want to try

    • @flash93
      @flash93 6 месяцев назад +19

      most of this is modded, the hardest vanilla ever gets is like red intermediate, this is slightly off. celeste is still a fantastic game and I highly reccomend it, it just has a very passionate modding community.

    • @gmdFrame
      @gmdFrame 6 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@flash93Agreed. Celeste main levels are literally almost never hard (maybe c sides are hard but not really)

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 месяцев назад +5

      The main game doesn't go above intermediate, and 90% of it is beginner according to this ranking system. The main game has tons of content (plus incredible music/story), but there are also TONS of custom maps that are similarly easy and a blast to play. Also, as you play, you get better naturally, so there's that.
      Don't let the game's insanity potential scare you away! That's like watching a chess master playing 5 games at once blindfolded, then deciding that you can't learn checkers.

  • @speedyjet
    @speedyjet 3 месяца назад +3

    Announcement: I am now expert 🥳

  • @MelonKing0627
    @MelonKing0627 4 месяца назад +4

    Once I made it to the red and shatter gm maps of strawberry jam it didn’t really feel as fun progressing through maps and the difficulty scale at all and I just sort of got burned out. It feels like I learned all of the tech besides from sub pixel perfect frame perfect c-pops which just doesn’t sound found for me. At one point I’ll probably get back in and actually finish the GMHS.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 месяца назад +4

      Fair enough yeah those maps are really brutal gl with gmhs though
      I find that the harder level maps are the most fun to play for me personally, they just feel so good to play and execute

  • @Godherselfxxo
    @Godherselfxxo 4 месяца назад

    Delusional canopys remixes on undertale songs go hard

  • @thenetheritebird
    @thenetheritebird Месяц назад +1

    I had to check my video playback speed more than once when I got into the Grandmaster levels. I blunked and they finished the screen, lmao

  • @niyo919
    @niyo919 Месяц назад +1

    The end of base game Celeste was one of the hardest platforming challenges I've ever done (harder than hollow knight's path of pain) and you're calling it easy mode? Jeeeesus, yall are cracked.

  • @skippygh0st248
    @skippygh0st248 2 месяца назад

    I have a feeling everyone past expert saw Mario Must Die and were like "yeah let's make this a real game"

  • @nathanmoreau1555
    @nathanmoreau1555 4 месяца назад

    "So, hard to think its over, right ?"

  • @SilicosisNotBeta
    @SilicosisNotBeta 4 месяца назад +4

    literally a new celeste player rn (i was forced to play celeste) and who tf named their celeste map "U.S Presidential Election D-Side"

  • @italicmuscle4786
    @italicmuscle4786 6 месяцев назад +5

    I'm surprised farewell didn't make it into intermediate easy

  • @michaelyuzhe
    @michaelyuzhe 3 месяца назад +2

    Madeline wasn’t built for this much stress 😭😭

  • @teste_juggler
    @teste_juggler Месяц назад +1

    id love a breakdown / explaination of the gm+ rooms and why theyre so difficult. i have 200 hrs in vanilla but its still hard to determine whats going on, which makes it difficult to understand just how impressive this is

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 6 дней назад

      this comment was a while ago so a lot might have changed, but i recommend looking up parrot dash, since she has some videos that do that

  • @jakeguillot6246
    @jakeguillot6246 4 месяца назад +2

    I was going to say something about how beating the hardest level in the base game shouldn’t be advanced because it kind of degrades the achievement, but then I remembered I played terraria infernum + fargos souls, beat saber, and geometry dash and immediately changed my mind

  • @jeper3460
    @jeper3460 4 месяца назад +3

    As someone who has completed some levels in Advanced SJ, the hardest I think I could do (with my current skill) is red Expert or maybe yellow Grandmaster

  • @miscellaneouschaos6693
    @miscellaneouschaos6693 2 дня назад

    the celest devs are quivering in their boots rn

  • @commercialchase8442
    @commercialchase8442 Месяц назад +1

    The bubbles at 6:57 sync with the music

  • @facundosanchez261
    @facundosanchez261 22 дня назад +2

    I've decided Celeste is the best community of all time, 0 toxicity and some of the best mods I've ever seen.

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 6 дней назад

      :clueless:

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 4 дня назад

      The only actual bad thing I’ve seen happen in this community is that one guy who made an ai chatbot of Parrot Dash

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 4 дня назад

      @@ThreeletterIGN and also all of hard list and a ton of the players being toxic etc

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 4 дня назад

      @@erierierierierie I’ve never seen that. I’ve been in the Celeste discord, Parrots discord and Valents discord for a while now and the only person I’ve seen who isn’t incredibly friendly and welcoming is the guy I talked about earlier. I’ve never seen any sort of toxicity aside from that

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 4 дня назад

      @@ThreeletterIGN how long is "a while" cause i know most of them have gotten themselves banned from most places

  • @Artoriandaraisin
    @Artoriandaraisin 12 дней назад +2

    Spider dance jumpscare

  • @BabyG1000
    @BabyG1000 4 месяца назад +1

    I am on golden ridge and thought I was getting good but now I’m scared for the difficulty spike that will come

  • @chriswong6871
    @chriswong6871 6 месяцев назад +5

    is there any way to explain in words the difference between gm, gm+1, gm+2 and gm+3? as someone very inexperienced with celeste mods they just kinda look the same to me

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 месяцев назад +12

      Ok so like, gm is really difficult but most players with 300-500 hours shouldn't have too bad of a time with the lower gm difficulties I think?
      Gm+1 is quite a lot harder than gm and requires lots and lots of experience with gm levels, I still spend around 3 hours to beat gm+1 rooms with almost 2k hours and 30+ gm maps cleared
      Individual Gm+2 rooms already gets close to farewell golden kinda difficulty, though most are still easier, top players usually wont beat a gm+2 rooms in a day
      And gm+3 is pretty much only ever done by the best players, the only gm+3 screen (which has been said to be baseline gm+3) has been done by barely any people, pretty much getting close to being too hard for humans

  • @KottonBall_
    @KottonBall_ 2 месяца назад +3

    if the first 3 are beginner then I’m never playing Celeste
    Edit: I got Celeste
    Edit 2: I’m on Farewell please help me

    • @togekiss09
      @togekiss09 2 месяца назад +1

      Beginner for modded standards, i 100%'d every single level in vanilla celeste but I struggle with advanced, most of vanilla is beginner and intermediate

  • @Creator_Chrris
    @Creator_Chrris 4 месяца назад +3

    As a newbie on playing celeste, what im the fucking tarnation is this shit

  • @twilcynder1435
    @twilcynder1435 5 месяцев назад +2

    Are you sure about the beginner ones ? Haven't played a beginner lobby in a long time but iirc I felt like beginner 3 maps were more around 4-5B difficulty than 7A

  • @Smoldragoncat
    @Smoldragoncat 4 месяца назад

    Was surprised D1D7 wasn’t here

  • @hyingplantilina48
    @hyingplantilina48 Месяц назад

    one of the bests games that steamunlocked have

  • @Lumel-rw6wh
    @Lumel-rw6wh 6 месяцев назад +3

    Who determines/created the + levels above gm? I’ve only ever seen various lists and sheets go up to gm

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  6 месяцев назад +5

      Ngl there isnt a proper definer for the gm+ difficulties but are instead some commonly agreed opinions within the community, but the baseline for gm+2 is avian ascension final room and the baseline for gm+1 is around solar express final room difficulty

  • @gost7235
    @gost7235 3 месяца назад +1

    Wow, I'm very surprised that I'm even advanced green.(I will rather transfer to advanced yellow). I've been playing this game for over 50 hours. And I'm still not tired of her.

  • @ThreeletterIGN
    @ThreeletterIGN 6 месяцев назад +12

    I feel like some of this is kind of inaccurate. I might make my own version if you’re ok with it

  • @tinyknott
    @tinyknott 2 месяца назад +1

    grandmaster +1: Hey kid, do you have claustrophobia?

  • @marufranco5281
    @marufranco5281 2 месяца назад +3

    I am genuinely curious man, how many hours of playtime do you have in Celeste by this point and how many hours do you play per week? are there any other games you play or are you dedicated to celeste assuming you play grandmaster levels?.
    I am asking because i am assuming that in order for me to reach that level of skill i would have to basically give up other games that i play.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 месяца назад +3

      I have 2400 hours
      SO many of those have gone to just creating and building my own maps, I believe that you would be able to get to grandmaster level in around 300 or so hours if you were to dedicate all your play time to improving your skill. Also I don't play any other games but that's just because I have an addiction to this game and not because I'm extremely dedicated to improving at the game

    • @davidalmeida5504
      @davidalmeida5504 2 месяца назад

      ​@@egfloggygoggyWell i have around 50 hours and i have all red berries (including the moon berry) so i guess there's only five times that to become a god

  • @karma6761
    @karma6761 5 месяцев назад +9

    It’s funny how difficulty is so subjective at higher levels, like there’s a gap between Zigzag and MotU flag 2 but considering how hard Gm+1 is gatekept it’s smaller then you would think it is.

  • @HarryS77
    @HarryS77 Месяц назад

    Well, that was demoralizing.

  • @misscatbird
    @misscatbird 6 месяцев назад +11

    Base game only goes to red intermediate lol (including fw)

  • @SnowSloth
    @SnowSloth 22 дня назад

    im either end of advanced or beginner of expert and i could see myself reaching the end of expert but grandmaster is too much for me to ever reach, my brain cant even keep up with the beginning of grandmaster how can people get that good. my respect for top level celeste players is going through the roof watching this video

  • @doodlarix
    @doodlarix Месяц назад +1

    I show this video to my friends every time I explain celeste difficulty. "Why do you say you are intermediate when you have almost 100%" is a question that needs to be anwered. 100% is intermediate in this game.

  • @angular.deficit
    @angular.deficit 4 месяца назад +28

    0:00 : actual genders
    2:58 : mental illnesses

  • @drderpamine2498
    @drderpamine2498 6 месяцев назад +3

    Does anyone know if Meaningless Contraptions is considered the easiest expert map in sj? If not which mal would it be, trying to get my first expert clear

    • @SplodZ
      @SplodZ 6 месяцев назад +2

      it's up their for the easiest however i'd consider hydroshock to be the easiest as it is not as input dense and overall easier and shorter rooms, other easier maps imo are system.invalidmapexception, hypnagogia, and the core problem

    • @drderpamine2498
      @drderpamine2498 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@SplodZ cool thx for the info

    • @ashleytheasteroid6444
      @ashleytheasteroid6444 6 месяцев назад

      System.invalidmapexception took me like 20 minutes when most other greens took me ~1 hour, also Subway Neon is pretty chill and is an AMAZING level. Overgrown Linn is probably the next easiest after that IMO. Hypnogogia is only easy if you're already familiar with dream hypers, but is completely free if you are good at them.

  • @AceTechn0
    @AceTechn0 5 месяцев назад +8

    I spent 3 hours on the last screen of Summit C-Side ALONE, seeing it at *Advanced* difficulty, and at the very START of Advanced difficulty, isn’t giving me much hope for my future endeavors into Modding CELESTE.

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  5 месяцев назад +11

      You'll improve at the game its not as bad as it seems, plus you don't have to play the high difficulties

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 5 месяцев назад +5

      There are TONS of modded levels that are advanced or below. In fact most of my favorite maps are custom maps around that difficulty.
      DEFINITELY at least download Strawberry Jam--if you've beaten summit c side, the easiest strawberry jam maps will be super easy for you! It's a whole new experience, you won't regret it

    • @seanchernov7178
      @seanchernov7178 4 месяца назад +3

      Don't feel bad. I quit this game a year ago over 7C. Only now did it after a 5.5h attempt (divided into 2 days ago evening, night and yesterday noon). And about 8.5h if considering all prior failed attempts. I actually was so pessimistic because I couldn't reach even half of that final screen so I cheated and did 8C before under 2h surprisingly, this improved my skill but even then 5.5h... and also playing on Switch so no mods. I will be lucky if I ever beat level 9.

    • @azeTrom17
      @azeTrom17 4 месяца назад +1

      @@seanchernov7178 Level 9 has one or two rooms that are debatably around the difficulty level of 7c.....I personally would rate 7c a bit harder than them.....but either way Farewell doesn't get much harder than what you've done. The issue is that it's consistently quite hard once you get a third of the way in--it isn't 7c hard but it's a long level
      Easily worth it, Farewell is an incredible experience

    • @BUGFlower413
      @BUGFlower413 3 месяца назад

      See ya in a couple months when you're already taking down grandmaster maps (you can do this ^u^)

  • @e_6868
    @e_6868 5 месяцев назад +1

    ngl chapter 3 was a huge difficulty spike the first time i played

  • @DanzTheGB
    @DanzTheGB 3 месяца назад +2

    I complteted the strawberry jam intermediate lobby :>

  • @jeffreylu3626
    @jeffreylu3626 3 месяца назад +3

    good to know that im only a beginner after completing the entire game and having 50 hours on it 😭

    • @paolarei4418
      @paolarei4418 25 дней назад

      Chill, that still doesn't mean you're bad at it

    • @ThreeletterIGN
      @ThreeletterIGN 4 дня назад

      I have over 750 hours and my hardest room is yellow gm+1

  • @speedyjet
    @speedyjet 6 месяцев назад +2

    I'm a proud.. beginner.

  • @jarkkolaiho462
    @jarkkolaiho462 Месяц назад +1

    Jesus wept. I just completed Summit B-side with over 1200 deaths yesterday. I could maybe finish Summit C-side if I switch to keyboard, because there’s no way I have enough directional consistency on any of my 8bitdo pads to do it.

  • @pretzels1208
    @pretzels1208 2 месяца назад +2

    i've played the entirety of celeste and got all golden strawberries but never played any mods. any suggestions on good mods for a beginner like me?

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  2 месяца назад +3

      Strawberry jam, the earlier lobbies are pretty chill and its very high quality
      Not too sure about standalone mods

    • @pretzels1208
      @pretzels1208 2 месяца назад

      @@egfloggygoggy thanks for the suggestion

  • @tigerwizard6388
    @tigerwizard6388 Месяц назад

    Suddenly having gotten moonberry feels a lot less inpressiveXD

  • @ChatloupidUwU
    @ChatloupidUwU 4 месяца назад +3

    Never touched Celeste.
    This is all very, very cool looking, but I don't understand what's going on past like Advanced (or just partly).
    I would love a breakdown of the techniques of maybe even those specific rooms so I can appreciate these absolute gaming moments more.
    Any plans on doing that, or alternatively, where can I go for this ?

    • @egfloggygoggy
      @egfloggygoggy  4 месяца назад +2

      If you wanna learn about some of the basic techniques used you can look up a speedrunning guide, a lot of speedrun tech is applied in the rooms shown. If you wanna look at the more obscure tech Parrot Dash has some videos covering lesser known tech

    • @ChatloupidUwU
      @ChatloupidUwU 4 месяца назад

      @@egfloggygoggy Cool ! Thanks a bunch, I will :3

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 4 месяца назад

      @@egfloggygoggy surely you do that 15 minute celeste tech explanation voice recording again

  • @deretti347
    @deretti347 6 месяцев назад +4

    That is useful for vanilla Celeste players like me, I wonder if there is a Trials of Death level equivalent for this community

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 6 месяцев назад +6

      Closest thing to it would be parrot dash’s 9D platinum berry grind! She streams it over on twitch (the in game timer is at 600 hours as of right now), but she expects it to take a few thousand hours, so the time spent playing is similar (not entirely sure about the difficulty - trials of death is REALLY hard to compare to any other game just because of how precise and difficult it is)

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 месяцев назад

      @@nebulae5236 the difficulty is completely incomparable because ToD is mostly just really difficult, and 9dp is really long
      you cant really compare D+ to wmfcg for example. personally i could probably beat election d with very little effort compared to some people (its matches my skill set very well) but give me a t4 golden and i will cry

    • @nebulae5236
      @nebulae5236 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@erierierierierie I mean I did say closest thing to it. It’s the time sink more than anything, the mechanical difficulty of trials of death is literally the hardest, most precise thing in platforming history, but regardless, 9DP will take an absurdly long period of time. If you can think of a different comparison to trials of death in Celeste tho I’d love to hear it!

    • @erierierierierie
      @erierierierierie 5 месяцев назад

      @@nebulae5236 i dont know of anything mechanically similar to ToD in celeste, i dont believe anyone is openly grinding for something so hard. im currently making a map that will probably take me a few months to beat, but thats standard for hard things in this game now. i dont think it'll be too long until someone starts a years long celeste grind. rickfernello doing 202 deathless is fairly comparable though, i think? as something we're sure on since he completed it

    • @esteb7496
      @esteb7496 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@erierierierierie9dp will be harder than 202 deathless but honestly i don’t think it’s as hard as tod, 9dp will probably take parrot dash around 2 and half years with ~2000 hours but iirc tod took 4k hours and 7 years

  • @xXPastelCatsXx
    @xXPastelCatsXx 6 месяцев назад +2

    6:14 i dont know what the fuck i am looking at anymore