Gentle Giant "Free Hand" Derek & Ray Shulman w/Mike Keneally
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Here's a 45-minute conversation with Gentle Giant members Derek Shulman (vocals) and Ray Shulman (Bass) with mega-fan Mike Keneally (Zappa, Vai, Satriani, Dethklok).
We discuss the new Steven Wilson remix of "Free Hand" which was released on June 25, 2021. We also discuss modern hip hop, the state of the music industry, streaming, and much more.
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A couple of other notes:
- Ray's laptop's internal fans were ramping up and making a lot of background noise
- Derek joined about 15 minutes into the call
- Mike and Ray started talking before I hit the record button, so we didn't have a formal start to the interview. That's why the conversation just started when it started
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It's always great listening to these genius musicians, Ray was a true virtuoso
Very under-recognized
This is just a phenomenal interview. A real piece of musical history. Thank you all for doing this! So wonderful to hear Ray and Derek being interviewed by Mike and Anthony who are both truly brilliant musical minds in their own right. Rest in peace Ray Shulman. ❤
Thanks for watching. I'll do anything to help promote GG
Ray Shulman is amazing.
Agreed, Rick.
Ray’s description of how Gentle Giant approached complex meter changes & polyrhythms is very insightful, and more akin to traditional composition. He mentioned they thought of parts as individual themes, rather than as a “7 section into a 5/4 part” (paraphrased). I believe that’s the key for coming to grips with complex rhythms, and I’ve also heard members of Meshuggah use similar language for the same issue. It’s one thing to break everything down, but at some point, an instrumentalist just needs to play by it by feel. Taking objective analysis out of the process just gets a player & the band to performance level that much faster.
Exactly. It's not about the numbers.
RIP Ray Schuman. Such an amazing bassist, violinist, composer…and much more.
Indeed. I'm hoping to put out a commemorative video
@@MakeWeirdMusic I saw GG open for J Tull at the Baltimore Civic Center as a young teen. Blew me away then. Amazing watching them play multiple instruments. They still blow me away. Have you seen the Cover of On Reflection video by Jo Deer? Needs to be seen and shared IMO. ruclips.net/video/mlR7YbM7_Jc/видео.html
21:15 Don’t sell yourself short, Derek. Not just John, but all five remaining members of GG (I know Ray is no longer with us, sadly; my condolences) have fascinating takes on the creative processes involved in making GG’s music, along with plenty of personality and individuality, and yet harnessed effectively in creating beautiful, fun, and engaging musical art. I would be remiss if I didn’t comment on what I see as extraordinary amounts of level-headedness, good humor, and even humility shown by each of you.
It's brilliant listening to these greats of music.
Agreed
Ordered Free Hand remix. Power and the Glory remix and Octopus remix by SW. I have the original vinyl from the 70s. GG were incredible Live. 1975 and 76. I was 19 years old. Ray's talent among others in the band were mindblowing. Derek's voice was incredible. A visual phenomenon of genius. Ohhh. My 1975 GG t Shirt doesn't fit now. but I odered their xl on the GG website. Yaaaahooooo.
Thanks for watching, Bobby!
SOOOO glad to hear THUNDERCAT get his deserved praise even amongst "old rock folks" if you will. I'm glad to hear some of our generations good stuff IS getting out there and being enjoyed.
I know I'll be a lone voice out here, but I can't wait for the missing piece remaster. That was my first foray into GG after hearing tracks from it played on Alan Freeman's Saturday afternoon show on R1 (remember that?!) I got into their previous albums from there.
I've got the freehand remaster and it's truly amazing.
I wonder if they'll do Missing Piece
Fond memories of "Fluff"! It's on his show I first heard all the stuff I'm still listening to now. GG, Genesis, ELP, Renaissance, VdGG....and Mountain (those wonderful jingles from Nantucket Sleighride).
Mike Keneally is the best person who can describe how GG’s music is distinct and stunning. Besides I’m so happy both Ray and Derek are fine to recall their music. Next Gary and Kerry ? Anyway thx so much for sharing this precious interviews !
We actually did an interview with Gary, Kerry, Mike, and Malcolm in 2017. Check the channel.
I was lucky enough to live in a Chicago where almost every band came to preform. The cost was so reasonable in the 70s we were able to see many concerts. Gentle Giant was just at another level and stands out as the best, the music and performance was the show. So many bands live were to say the least disappointing. GG has been my favorite band since seeing them preform octopus live. An outstanding catalog of music thank you GG! Thank you Mike for a great interview!
Thanks for watching! And you're lucky you were able to see them :)
@@MakeWeirdMusic Very very lucky! and lucky to have people like you bring us these interviews!
RIP Ray Shulman.
Listening to the remix now and it’s brilliant. So glad I stumbled onto this interview.
Thanks so much! Glad you're enjoying it
Wonderful presentation. I hesitate to say interview lol! I’m always thrilled to hear more insight into the genius of Gentle Giant. Thank you Ray and Derek for sharing. And thank you MWM for creating this content. Personally Just the Same, On Reflection and Freehand put this album into the stratosphere of greatness. Personally, side 2 not so much. I suppose music just resonates differently for different people. Fortunately I saw you live once. So tight and talented. I’ll always treasure that concert.
Thanks so much for watching and for leaving a nice comment
I still to this day throw on Free Hand regularly and play drums to what would be the first side...gotta keep your chops up...such powerful, complex drumming. I was doing it one morning at 7am and my asshole neighbors called the cops on me...granted, I DID have the windows open, but they could have just come over and asked me to keep it down....bastards!!
Slowly the band has reunited with their fans again. It used to be like "well that was then, let's get not too excited about it". Fans have been abandoned orphans for a long time.
I'm very glad they're doing press nowadays.
@@MakeWeirdMusic we are all gathering around the same campfire and listen. Or tell.
My first gaze at Gentle Giant was Utica , New York 1975.
They warmed up the crowd for the J. Giles Band !!! I left the venue before J. Giles took the
stage! We got back stage to offer up a well crafted drawing of the Giant from my artist friend.
Wow. Never thought they'd open for J Giles
Same story but in Chicago. Yikes!!!
Yes!
YES
Canada power!! (Quebec)
36:15 anyone have a link to what Mike is saying?
I couldn't find the clip. Sorry
Going to ask the GG nerds on Facebook
Remix Civilian. Yeah, why not.
That'd be interesting!
So can anyone tell me is there any chance of ever getting some version of IAGH on a new CD release, it's the only studio album I don't have. I know the master tapes have gone AWOL and so SW can't work his magic on them, but the album has been previously released and presumably was in the Unburied Treasure box set, so can't we just have it again in whatever form it's available in? It is available as mp3 from The Evil Zon, but you know ...
There is no chance because the multi-track tapes are gone. It's not about a masters, it's about multi-tracks. :(
@@MakeWeirdMusic So was the album in the Unburied Treasure box set, and if so why can't what was on the CD simply be replicated bit for bit? I'm not talking about an SW do-over but just replicating what was previously released. Presumably there's a reference copy of the files that were used to create the CDs?
@@stevewhiteside4525 Alucards own version of this album is the best sounding out there on cd, but let's be honest, it's not the best sounding album I've ever heard. But the important thing is that it's listenable, ulike some of the other versions I've heard.
@@progqueen6219 Thanks for the pointer, but Alucard don't seem to be selling it at the moment, I guess I'll have to see if I can track it down 2nd hand for a not too crazy price.
@@stevewhiteside4525 Try discogs, that's where I got my copy. IAGH is generally the most expencive of GG albums to get a hold of, probably because there's so few good versions of it.
anyone got the clip of the roots doing advent of panurge?
I should dig that up
Can anybody help me to contact Ray Shulman? I need to do an interview with him
I don't have his contact info, sorry.