How to install an axle flip kit of any truck with the leaf springs above the axle, step by step how to using the belltech kit. www.ebay.com/itm/265689659544...
Very helpful video, especially when you mention to flip the bolt holding the leaf springs together. I would have never thought to do this, especially since I haven't seen anyone mention this in any other videos.
As a first time Chevy and OBS owner I just wanted to come back and say thank you again for doing this awesome video man. Saved me a bunch of time and prevented a few screw-ups along the way. I will definitely watch your other videos to finish my 4/6 drop. Please keep up with the great contents.
I appreciate the video. Getting prepped to do the same thing to my dually. I have the hardware but wanted to watch someone else do it. Yours was great.
Nice video 👍 great job i did this to my old Ford F250 i did not turn my center bolt around though next time i do anything there i will. One thing that happened was those tabs that go up in the axle spring perch i had to rotate my axle forward to match the original driveline angle it left a gap in those tabs in the back i did a hard pull and my axle rotated backwards it was sticking up and driveline rubbing my e brake cables . I had a welder weld that bracket around the axle tube so it never happens again .
No welding required, if your C notch kit you order is for the F Series frame it too has an option for the bolt in kit, I recommend watching my comparison video showing eBay vs bel tech and I prefer the eBay kit vs the more expensive brand, it allows you to use your own stock and stronger u bolts. And has better spindles.
It’s not needed to weld because the new spring perch is extended to fit under the Origional to keep it from moving when torque is applied, on f100 it’s needed to do a c notch if you do the flip kit
I’ve got a 2017 Silverado 4wd I’m wanting to do either a 3/5 or a 4/6 drop on 22s, was curious if I would have to notch the frame or if there was a way to not start cutting the frame lol any help would be amazing! Was looking to do a flip kit in the back and a set of lowering upper and lower control arms
Hey, quick question. I have a 02 ram 1500 and recently got a Mcgaughys 2/4.5 drop installed. I only got the rear installed (because I liked how it looked), but my rear end started to shake at high speeds (Around 60-70 mph). Do you know how I could fix it or what may cause the bad shaking?
Sounds like it’s either loose, not at the right pinion angle putting driveshaft in a bind, or the flip blocks have an offset hole and the blocks are backwards to each other causing the rear end to not be straight
Just curious, did the drums fit between the frame and spring pack? I'm doing 68 f100 and it looks like i might have to drop my springs. I didn't know if there was more than one way to do it and if there was what's the simplest?
Ride tech sells a really nice shock that will hold up but if it’s a budget build I’d measure your truck at lowest height and raised and get a shock over the counter from the auto parts store that can travel to those measurements
Hey I gotta question do u think I can use a flip kit if I alr have 3 inch lowering shackles and the flip kit lowers it 5 more inches on a 4x4 u think I’m good? I don’t wanna do a c notch
@@1194video solid front beam? The front axle? I flipped the front and its ok...but the back has got me stumped. Deciding if I should bad, flip axle or get drop springs. I guess coils are an option too. I'm about to draw out of a hat and just go with whatever comes up hahaha
@@dull_boy_274 go to tractor supply and get some trailer axle spring perches and put the axle on top of the leafs using those pads from tractor supply, weld it to the rear and reuse the stock hardware. Or if your not looking to go so low, get the rivets out of the front hangers that are attached to the front of leaf and flip it upside down to get a little lower without slamming the truck then either drill and bolt it or weld it
You can buy the kit for any model truck but may have to drill the line up hole larger if it’s not correct size. This one is for a 96 Sierra. All you would have to do is make sure your leaf springs are not wider than the 1/2 ton and if not just order the kit for a half ton
Only if it’s keeping the rear ended from sitting flat on the leaf. If it’s not then it won’t make a difference, your driveshaft could be too far into the transmission after lowering it causing it to vibrate. Mine had no affect but could be a possibility
I am about to lower my 94 suburban. I will lower 4" in the front. ( i have new belltech spindles and springs for that) was thinking of 3 or 4" in the back. the leafs have a bit of de-arch from time and want it to sit level or slightly lower in the front. so for the rear I bought a c notch kit and 2" shackles. Should i just do a flip with no shackles for the rear? how much would just the flip no shackles lower the rear by?
If you flip the axle you have to measure the height of the leafs which is close to 1.5” then from the leaf bars to center of rear end which is close to 2” so if you flip the rear it’s going to drop you that x2 so roughly 7” from where it’s at now
hey i got a flip kit for my silverado however it was a universal fit but the bracket that holds my rear end up the tabs don’t fit as there to wide.. do you think i can cut them for they to fit in the original or can i just sit the rear like that ?
I have a 2016 Nissan Frontier and it’s set up similar to this. I’m only wanting to drop the rear 2” but I’ve looked everywhere for shackels or anything like that any advice? If I did the flip kit and didn’t want the full 7” could I in some way raise it back up 5”. Tia I’ve looked for vids everywhere there is nothing on this model
2 inch Shackles would be best option.. but if you can’t find any for your Frontier, you could look at a flip kit where it comes with or you can add one of those little block between the axle and leaf spring so it’s a little taller but if you load anything on your bed, flip kits reduced suspension travel..
I believe the rear end is u see the leafs on your truck, if you only want a few inches you could remove the front leaf spring hanger and spin it where the leaf is above the hanger rather than on the bottom But then you will have to make certain the rear end is centered before drilling new holes and bolting it back on….. but you could buy lift shackles and flip the rear end so that you can lower it by flipping the axle then the lift kit hangers could raise it to your desired height. You can pick up the flip spring pads at tractor supply if you use the stock u bolts.
@@Vhifzvjif thanks for the advice this truck is hard to find much on as far as lowering I did find a flip kit though. The problem with the shackels is there so close to the frame you can’t go up any higher as it is.
Can I take off the leaf springs instead of removing the rear end? Lower the rear end and then reinstall the leaf springs? Was thinking of replacing the old ones anyways.
Will this still work if I only have one leaf in the rear?? I have a mono leaf with two inch shackles. Just got my notch and flip kit but aren’t in yet.
Hey man so I just got my truck dropped axle flip kit but my brake lights don’t turn on no more they’re on but when I press the brake they don’t get brighter or nothing
I have an 04 ram I did the flip kit instruction for instruction but now my rear axle is doing a ticking noise when it goes in drive and it’s at an angle
I'm fliping the axle on my 51 Ford F1 Pickup. I like the kit you used (design and price) I was wondering if the kit you used would handle the axle diameter of my truck. What's the axle diameter of your pickup? Thanks
@@1194video What I meant to ask: what is the axle housing diameter that the u-bolts would fit on? I think the axle housing on my truck would be slightly smaller than the axle housing on yours. Just wondering
No you can not, those help center and safely keep the rear in place, I always remove them and flip them as well so the pin is on the correct side, but do not remove them completely, very unsafe
@@morepower3242 it can’t be any stiffer than stock, you didn’t change the rear springs and by adding the shackles it will soften the ride but the front could be stiffer if you got v8 springs they are harder and v6 softer so that’s probably where you have stiffer ride
@@NandoPacheco-jc3tb the only reason to weld a flip kit is if it does not have the ends that reach to the origional perches, if the rear end can rotate on the flip perch the. It needs to be welded to prevent the rear end from twisting on the flip perch.
Not at all but other things limit how much you can load. Like full size tires rubbing your fender or wheel well, frame slamming hard on axle when you go over a messed up road that bounces your truck up, or loading to capacity and causing your front end to raise up a little which could lead to handling problems especially in rain. I just ordered an Air Lift Air Bag kit for my 2012 f150 on a flip kit (not sure the exact drop measurement but it’s designed for up to 6” drop according to the description) to help load leveling and it helps me be able to load 2k lbs like as if i was at stock suspension.
Hello new suscríbele here I’m planing on doing the same on my truck this coming weekend u said this kit will drop 7 inch with shackles but I’m not trying to that low ……. My question is how many inches u would get with the stock shackles ?
So I just bought a 76, And I wanna do this. I already have 2 inch drop shackles just wanna do the flip kit, If I do this will I have to c notch or will I be okay?
Last question, I promise. For the driver side flip kit, the hole should face towards the back of the truck, towards the bed? For the passenger side flip kit, the hole should face towards the front of the vehicle? Or Both Belltech logos should be positioned to face towards the engine.
@@ant-hu1gs sorry it took me so long to reply on the bottom. The rear end is Center to the hole, but on the top the rear end has to be in the same center position as it was at the bottom so just put a straight edge from the floor up and make sure the rear end is positioned where both sides will be in the same location as it was from the bottom positioned on the top I’m pretty sure that offset hole goes towards the front meaning the shortest side of the whole would be on the front and that would cause the rear end to be further back which centers it in the same location if it was on the bottom of the leafs, but just make sure using a straight edge from the floor up that the rear end oncemoved to the top will still be centered to the bed openings
The typical leaf spring rear suspension will need 5-7 degrees of negative angle. Go get you a magnetic angle reader from harbor freight and put it on the yoke where the driveshaft mounts. You should never have a positive angle though.
You could cut your rear end spring perch off and mount it on other side and weld it in to save on that. And run to scrap yard and get piece of pipe to make c notch and weld into frame and box it
Your Truck is a 1991 but, is it a Ford? I'm looking into doing this to mine which is a 1991 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat. So basically is your truck a 1991 Ford F-150?
It’s all the same fir trucks with the axle below the leafs, it requires a flip kit to get it above to go 5” or add the 2@ hangers to go 7” I have five this on both GM and Ford, both exactly the same
For the beltech it’s www.ebay.com/itm/291035606225 but I would recommend getting the 500.00 kit, check out my other video on my channel where I compare the two kits, link is below in description on that video
It’s about a 5” drop but if you add shackles it adds 2” to make 7” in rear, if you only do a flip kit and remove the bump stop that’s bolted to the frame you can get away without adding a notch but if you add any weight in the bed it will hit the frame over bumper occasionally
@@1194video thanks for the reply, so I should be okay with just the flip kit ? My tires on the truck right now are also 265/65/18, would I need a smaller tire?
Do you have correct shocks for the drop? Also did you remove the bump stop that’s bolted to the frame just above the axle? It could be bottoming out against that which would be a terrible ride
Cheapest is never Best But if you don’t care how bad it rides you could go to harbor freight and buy the axle purches that are same as flip for rear then take springs out and cut them lower but it will be a rougher ride in front for sure
It’s not, the yoke slips in and out of the tail shaft the whole time you drive, it’s made to where if your loaded to the axles with weight it still has travel. No issues
@@xmakeugopassivex2795 if your just doing a flip kit it gets you roughly 5” drop and if you get the 2” shackles you can go 7 but it’s going to be very close to the frame
You can get lowering shackles that will replace your stock ones the lowering shackles will bring it down an extra 2 inches so the rear will be 8 in low
Because it’s the pin that centers the perch and if you don’t the bolt head sticks out and contacts he axle keeping it from sitting flush in he new perches
@@1194video so I have to remove my flip kit again and flip the guide pin . I have the flip kit install but my rear end shifted , you think it’s bc I didn’t flip the guide pin ?
@@temp285 the half circle things with a flat spot on the bottom, they have a hole to align the rear axle on the leaf spring pin... When you lower a rear axle the bracket is designed to move it back about .5-1 inch...
Your axle brackets will crack and then leak if you do thos setup. You need the flip kit that has the flat plate that goes over the you bolts. Dont do this way. You will get alot of axle wrap
it’s no different than stock perches once you finish weld them to the axle, only way it could possibly crack the old perch is under heavy torque which show trucks don’t get very much of.
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Very helpful video, especially when you mention to flip the bolt holding the leaf springs together. I would have never thought to do this, especially since I haven't seen anyone mention this in any other videos.
As a first time Chevy and OBS owner I just wanted to come back and say thank you again for doing this awesome video man. Saved me a bunch of time and prevented a few screw-ups along the way. I will definitely watch your other videos to finish my 4/6 drop. Please keep up with the great contents.
Glad it helped. I personally like the 4/6 drop. Gives the truck a good stance rather than going air ride
THANK YOU SO GOD DAM MUCH MAN!! I'm doing this by myself and I wasn't sure whether the leaf spring should be at a angle or straight but now I know
I appreciate the video. Getting prepped to do the same thing to my dually. I have the hardware but wanted to watch someone else do it. Yours was great.
Nice video 👍 great job i did this to my old Ford F250 i did not turn my center bolt around though next time i do anything there i will. One thing that happened was those tabs that go up in the axle spring perch i had to rotate my axle forward to match the original driveline angle it left a gap in those tabs in the back i did a hard pull and my axle rotated backwards it was sticking up and driveline rubbing my e brake cables . I had a welder weld that bracket around the axle tube so it never happens again .
Thxs this info was really spoon fed soo thanks i cant wait to try myself x)
Not hard at all just be careful
You do good videos man ❤
Thank you!!!
Great video
Thank you 🙏
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Great vid clear and concise! Quick question, so you don't need to weld this at all? What about notching the frame (F100s)?
No welding required, if your C notch kit you order is for the F Series frame it too has an option for the bolt in kit, I recommend watching my comparison video showing eBay vs bel tech and I prefer the eBay kit vs the more expensive brand, it allows you to use your own stock and stronger u bolts. And has better spindles.
It’s not needed to weld because the new spring perch is extended to fit under the Origional to keep it from moving when torque is applied, on f100 it’s needed to do a c notch if you do the flip kit
Sweet man thanks
Hi I got a 1955 f100 truck I just need to do the back only , do they make a kit just for the back with no welding required can you give a link please-
I’ve got a 2017 Silverado 4wd I’m wanting to do either a 3/5 or a 4/6 drop on 22s, was curious if I would have to notch the frame or if there was a way to not start cutting the frame lol any help would be amazing! Was looking to do a flip kit in the back and a set of lowering upper and lower control arms
You could remove the bump stop above the rear end that’s on the frame and give more clearance
Hey, quick question. I have a 02 ram 1500 and recently got a Mcgaughys 2/4.5 drop installed. I only got the rear installed (because I liked how it looked), but my rear end started to shake at high speeds (Around 60-70 mph). Do you know how I could fix it or what may cause the bad shaking?
Sounds like it’s either loose, not at the right pinion angle putting driveshaft in a bind, or the flip blocks have an offset hole and the blocks are backwards to each other causing the rear end to not be straight
@@1194video Oh ok, thanks for the help man. Shit’s starting to give me a headache
Did you find the issue? Im having the same problem
Just curious, did the drums fit between the frame and spring pack? I'm doing 68 f100 and it looks like i might have to drop my springs. I didn't know if there was more than one way to do it and if there was what's the simplest?
It fits same as stock just changes the axle from bottom to top or vise versa
Nice vid, quick question what would be the best shocks to pair this up with
Ride tech sells a really nice shock that will hold up but if it’s a budget build I’d measure your truck at lowest height and raised and get a shock over the counter from the auto parts store that can travel to those measurements
Thanks for the feedback 🙏🏽
Hello friend, l have a question. If my car has the leaf springs below the differential, can l do those that you did to put then above the differential
Yes
Man this is gonnna be EASY to do on my c10
Very easy
Hey I gotta question do u think I can use a flip kit if I alr have 3 inch lowering shackles and the flip kit lowers it 5 more inches on a 4x4 u think I’m good? I don’t wanna do a c notch
You will be hitting the frame
Put my kit on but it’s bumpy when I dive do I need to put a c-notch?
New shocks that are specifically made for the lowered ford. Jdm sells them for a reasonable price.
yea u do
Great video! How do you know what length shocks are needed now that the travel is shorter?
I went to the bell tech website to see what they used with their 5/7 kit so I knew length
@@1194video ok cool thank you. I'm trying to drop a 63 e100 and it's guessing game I think. Unibody frame and all
@@dull_boy_274 it’s nice having a solid front beam because your wheels won’t camber in when slamming it
@@1194video solid front beam? The front axle? I flipped the front and its ok...but the back has got me stumped. Deciding if I should bad, flip axle or get drop springs. I guess coils are an option too. I'm about to draw out of a hat and just go with whatever comes up hahaha
@@dull_boy_274 go to tractor supply and get some trailer axle spring perches and put the axle on top of the leafs using those pads from tractor supply, weld it to the rear and reuse the stock hardware. Or if your not looking to go so low, get the rivets out of the front hangers that are attached to the front of leaf and flip it upside down to get a little lower without slamming the truck then either drill and bolt it or weld it
Since the notch is above the frame, does the under bed rail need to be cut too?
Only about .5” to clear the notch
When doing the flip kit and c notch did your shock length change or did you keep factory size?
I changed them with drop shocks.
what year truck was this done on? i can only find the kits for newer trucks i have a 1970 f250 with a dana 80 rear end.
You can buy the kit for any model truck but may have to drill the line up hole larger if it’s not correct size. This one is for a 96 Sierra. All you would have to do is make sure your leaf springs are not wider than the 1/2 ton and if not just order the kit for a half ton
@@1194video thank you ill go out an check every thing and start doin my hw again
Would that bolt on leaf springs make a difference? I didn’t flip mine how you did. I just let the bolt sit on that slot. I have vibration now😐
Only if it’s keeping the rear ended from sitting flat on the leaf. If it’s not then it won’t make a difference, your driveshaft could be too far into the transmission after lowering it causing it to vibrate. Mine had no affect but could be a possibility
I got vibration in mine after a whole I think I didn’t install my flip properly and mechanic said it’s not the right one for my truck
I am about to lower my 94 suburban. I will lower 4" in the front. ( i have new belltech spindles and springs for that) was thinking of 3 or 4" in the back. the leafs have a bit of de-arch from time and want it to sit level or slightly lower in the front. so for the rear I bought a c notch kit and 2" shackles. Should i just do a flip with no shackles for the rear? how much would just the flip no shackles lower the rear by?
If you flip the axle you have to measure the height of the leafs which is close to 1.5” then from the leaf bars to center of rear end which is close to 2” so if you flip the rear it’s going to drop you that x2 so roughly 7” from where it’s at now
Do you torque the u bolts with suspension loaded or unloaded?
Add torqued man in the air and check everything after driving roughly 10 minutes
hey i got a flip kit for my silverado however it was a universal fit but the bracket that holds my rear end up the tabs don’t fit as there to wide.. do you think i can cut them for they to fit in the original or can i just sit the rear like that ?
Can you cut them down some so it fits correctly
@@1194videothanks for the quick feedback. i will be trying to cut them down some for the tabs to fit in the original
I have a 2016 Nissan Frontier and it’s set up similar to this. I’m only wanting to drop the rear 2” but I’ve looked everywhere for shackels or anything like that any advice? If I did the flip kit and didn’t want the full 7” could I in some way raise it back up 5”. Tia I’ve looked for vids everywhere there is nothing on this model
2 inch Shackles would be best option.. but if you can’t find any for your Frontier, you could look at a flip kit where it comes with or you can add one of those little block between the axle and leaf spring so it’s a little taller but if you load anything on your bed, flip kits reduced suspension travel..
I believe the rear end is u see the leafs on your truck, if you only want a few inches you could remove the front leaf spring hanger and spin it where the leaf is above the hanger rather than on the bottom But then you will have to make certain the rear end is centered before drilling new holes and bolting it back on….. but you could buy lift shackles and flip the rear end so that you can lower it by flipping the axle then the lift kit hangers could raise it to your desired height. You can pick up the flip spring pads at tractor supply if you use the stock u bolts.
@@1194video I appreciate that awesome video you posted very helpful. I just seen your comment thanks for the info
@@Vhifzvjif thanks for the advice this truck is hard to find much on as far as lowering I did find a flip kit though. The problem with the shackels is there so close to the frame you can’t go up any higher as it is.
Can I take off the leaf springs instead of removing the rear end? Lower the rear end and then reinstall the leaf springs? Was thinking of replacing the old ones anyways.
You can.
Will this still work if I only have one leaf in the rear?? I have a mono leaf with two inch shackles. Just got my notch and flip kit but aren’t in yet.
It will but with only one leaf you not going to have much spring rate and it will cause it to slam frame u less you have c notch
If you do this on a 2000 Chevy Silverado do you need a c notch or you can just do the flip kit?
You can but it hits the frame if you go over bumps
Hey man so I just got my truck dropped axle flip kit but my brake lights don’t turn on no more they’re on but when I press the brake they don’t get brighter or nothing
You might have ground wire not connected that goes to frame
I have an 04 ram I did the flip kit instruction for instruction but now my rear axle is doing a ticking noise when it goes in drive and it’s at an angle
Shouldn’t be at an angle, the driveshaft needs to freely rotate without contacting in a kink.
Google and read pinion angle...
Hey boss man, I know this video is a year old but do you have any idea if they make flip kits for a Chevy s10, or any flip kits that would fit that?
You can go to tractor supply and get spring pads and do the same thing for your axle
@@1194video I appreciate you buddy
@@jessewardle3779 any time
Which ones do i put first the shackles or the flip kit?
I’d put flip first so you will have more movement with the springs to allow the rear to flip to the other side of leafs before shackles
I'm fliping the axle on my 51 Ford F1 Pickup. I like the kit you used (design and price) I was wondering if the kit you used would handle the axle diameter of my truck. What's the axle diameter of your pickup? Thanks
Go to northern tool to the trailer area and there are axle pads there cheaper that might fit for better price
@@1194video What I meant to ask: what is the axle housing diameter that the u-bolts would fit on? I think the axle housing on my truck would be slightly smaller than the axle housing on yours. Just wondering
@@darylvoorhees2629 I believe it is 3”
Can I do this without a lift? I’ve got a floor Jack and some Jack stand
Definitely. Iv had to do it for years without a lift, it just takes a bit longer with it on the ground
Do you know if u can put a flip kit on without the axle locaters?
No you can not, those help center and safely keep the rear in place, I always remove them and flip them as well so the pin is on the correct side, but do not remove them completely, very unsafe
Wondering if this can be done for 1938 Chevrolet sedan front axle
I can’t answer that but worth a try
Thks for the video cost of kit
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How much did it lower it?? And did you lower the front too?
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I did mine today same kit and I have the drop shocks but it is stiff like the shocks aren’t working
@@morepower3242 it can’t be any stiffer than stock, you didn’t change the rear springs and by adding the shackles it will soften the ride but the front could be stiffer if you got v8 springs they are harder and v6 softer so that’s probably where you have stiffer ride
I have a question I just bought a flip kit for my 2006 ram do I need to weld it or it be okay to leave it like that ?
@@NandoPacheco-jc3tb the only reason to weld a flip kit is if it does not have the ends that reach to the origional perches, if the rear end can rotate on the flip perch the. It needs to be welded to prevent the rear end from twisting on the flip perch.
When you do that do it affects the payload capacity?
It’s the same long as you keep your factory shackles but regardless you can do helper bags to improve that
@@1194video thanks for your advice 🙏
Not at all but other things limit how much you can load. Like full size tires rubbing your fender or wheel well, frame slamming hard on axle when you go over a messed up road that bounces your truck up, or loading to capacity and causing your front end to raise up a little which could lead to handling problems especially in rain. I just ordered an Air Lift Air Bag kit for my 2012 f150 on a flip kit (not sure the exact drop measurement but it’s designed for up to 6” drop according to the description) to help load leveling and it helps me be able to load 2k lbs like as if i was at stock suspension.
Hello new suscríbele here I’m planing on doing the same on my truck this coming weekend u said this kit will drop 7 inch with shackles but I’m not trying to that low ……. My question is how many inches u would get with the stock shackles ?
This is flip and shackles to get 7 I believe just shackles alone will only get about 2”
@@1194video aight flip kit alone with out shackles prolly gonna be around 5 inch drop
@@jstitanium3987 according to specs yes
Do you need a lift to do this or can you do it on the ground with jack stands and stuff
I’ve done it many times on the ground, just put frame on stands and use jack to lower/raise rear end
How do you lower in front the ford f150 v6 do you have a video
Spindles be best route
that flip kit fits my 69 ford
How did you move your diff to the top?
Take the leafs off, put rear over the leafs and then add the new spring perches.
It’s all in this video how to do it
@@1194video shoulda made the video titled how to and wouldn't have confused this guy 😂😂😂😂
So I just bought a 76, And I wanna do this. I already have 2 inch drop shackles just wanna do the flip kit, If I do this will I have to c notch or will I be okay?
Long as you don’t add weight to the bed but if you hit hard bumps it will hit
@@1194video thank you I’m brand new to trucks I’ve always been a motorcycle rider. Will I have to remove bump stops too? Thanks so much for chatting
@@AJV4L2007 that will give you more clearance if you do
Did you have to cut your u bolts ? Mines are much longer then the stock ones
I had to cut the excess threads off.
Last question, I promise. For the driver side flip kit, the hole should face towards the back of the truck, towards the bed?
For the passenger side flip kit, the hole should face towards the front of the vehicle?
Or Both Belltech logos should be positioned to face towards the engine.
@@ant-hu1gs sorry it took me so long to reply on the bottom. The rear end is Center to the hole, but on the top the rear end has to be in the same center position as it was at the bottom so just put a straight edge from the floor up and make sure the rear end is positioned where both sides will be in the same location as it was from the bottom positioned on the top I’m pretty sure that offset hole goes towards the front meaning the shortest side of the whole would be on the front and that would cause the rear end to be further back which centers it in the same location if it was on the bottom of the leafs, but just make sure using a straight edge from the floor up that the rear end oncemoved to the top will still be centered to the bed openings
What all do I need to make sure I did right to not mess up pinion angle
The typical leaf spring rear suspension will need 5-7 degrees of negative angle. Go get you a magnetic angle reader from harbor freight and put it on the yoke where the driveshaft mounts. You should never have a positive angle though.
Google and read about pinion angle...
@@jcanfixall1585 I have wondered why people reply and ask certain things when it’s just as easy to immediately get an answer from Google
For this you don't need the c-notch right?????
If you don’t use it, it will contact frame when hitting bumps in road
You can do it with jb weld if you don't want to use brackets.....just get the large size jb weld
what happens if you didn’t flip the bolt over the other side ? And install the flip kit that ?
Sometimes it can hit the axle keeping it from fitting into the pad but if it centers and does not wobble it should be fine
@@1194video thanks appreciate it
@@1194video the black pad that comes with the flip kit ? Or which black pad ?
@@temp285 the pad in the kit the rear axle sits in to flip it. If the bolt is too long it can hit the rear end keeping it from sitting into the pad.
Was wondering if you could tell me the sizes of the parts that came on the flip kit I’m trying to make my own lol
Or the measurements
You could cut your rear end spring perch off and mount it on other side and weld it in to save on that. And run to scrap yard and get piece of pipe to make c notch and weld into frame and box it
Can the same U's be used or do they have to be longer ones????😢😢😢
As long as a clock to lower it more is not being used I have used the OEM U bolts before
How much drop did you get from the axle flip kit
7 in rear
Do you have a part number for that kit or a link?
ruclips.net/video/1FiG3imKEtw/видео.html I give the link in the description and facts about the kit with details
Your Truck is a 1991 but, is it a Ford? I'm looking into doing this to mine which is a 1991 Ford F-150 XLT Lariat. So basically is your truck a 1991 Ford F-150?
It’s all the same fir trucks with the axle below the leafs, it requires a flip kit to get it above to go 5” or add the 2@ hangers to go 7” I have five this on both GM and Ford, both exactly the same
You think I need to weld my c notch on my 2003 f150
Beltech flip kit
I’d bolt it and weld around the sides for strength
Did you have to use c notch or replace shocks?
I replaced shocks and c notch kit
Where did you get the flip kit? And what is the part #?
For the beltech it’s www.ebay.com/itm/291035606225 but I would recommend getting the 500.00 kit, check out my other video on my channel where I compare the two kits, link is below in description on that video
I’m planning on getting a flip kit for my 2006 Chevy Silverado how low would it drop and would I need a c-notch ?
It’s about a 5” drop but if you add shackles it adds 2” to make 7” in rear, if you only do a flip kit and remove the bump stop that’s bolted to the frame you can get away without adding a notch but if you add any weight in the bed it will hit the frame over bumper occasionally
@@1194video thanks for the reply, so I should be okay with just the flip kit ? My tires on the truck right now are also 265/65/18, would I need a smaller tire?
@@Jimmynbs97 that would depend on the offset, you would want to make sure it can freely move up and down inside the wheel well without rubbing
What type of u bolts do I need ?
You can use your stock u bolts
So I did a flip kit on my obs but it’s so bumpy now what can I do about it??
Do you have correct shocks for the drop? Also did you remove the bump stop that’s bolted to the frame just above the axle? It could be bottoming out against that which would be a terrible ride
@@1194video i did not remove the bump stop
@@luissarmiento9719 try that to see what f it gives you more travel
@@luissarmiento9719 need a notch
Where did you get the flip kit?
eBay
Hi bro
What’s the cheapest way to lower my 1998 Silverado k1500 ?
Cheapest is never Best But if you don’t care how bad it rides you could go to harbor freight and buy the axle purches that are same as flip for rear then take springs out and cut them lower but it will be a rougher ride in front for sure
What you do about the driveshaft being to long?
It’s not, the yoke slips in and out of the tail shaft the whole time you drive, it’s made to where if your loaded to the axles with weight it still has travel. No issues
I’m having trouble with mine being about a inch long everything lined up great
@@thomasdavis8164 your rear end has to be in the offset hole not the centered hole. If you put it center it moves it too far forward
That’s what I did I used the original bracket but a new one and welded it on the opposite side when I flipped it
do i need a c notch for this?
You don’t if you remove the bump stop but it will hit when going over bumps without the c notch
@@1194video ok but im using my stock shackles should i still remove them?
@@xmakeugopassivex2795 if your just doing a flip kit it gets you roughly 5” drop and if you get the 2” shackles you can go 7 but it’s going to be very close to the frame
@@1194video ok thank you man ima order one now and get to it
@@1194video sorry one more thing do i need lower shocks or can i use my stocks .if i use my stock shocks will i still get 5 in?
Whatsup man! I just got mines installed but it makes a clanking sound what could it be?
Clanking Continuous? While moving or over bumps?
mine does it too
its when i hit any little pothole
@@user-jh9cl6wc1c make sure the u bolts are li ed up straight and torqued, could be hating from impact if not tight
Probably pinion angle
do i need a c notch for this i got an 02 ram
Most likely if you plan on adding Weight to the bed
@@1194video thanks
My 6” flip kit didn’t come with u bolts, am I okay to use the oem ones?
@@winterxo192 I used the Origional ones on my other truck, just check that they are torqued right and check them later after you drive it a bit
@@1194video thank you!! Got my front end lowered running 4.5” drop than the flip kit and c notch
hey do I need the shackles ?
Not unless you want to go lower than the flip kit provides
will this fit a 01 sanoma?
You can buy the kit for the s10/ Sonoma
I don’t have a lift I need the hick way to do it in the back yard with jacks.
Works well with stands and jack under rear end too
what size clamps ?? please
Clamps?
What year is your truck?
91
This one is 96 Sierra but I did it on the 91 Silverado too
Ok thanks I'll checkout
Frame*
@@theoffice3802 this one is a 96 but it’s the same from 88-98 on this frame but same concept for all
😮😮 my tab isn’t all the way in, it’s riding the lip of the bracket … but however my hole is to the front … 🤔
@@ClubFreeze501 just make sure your rear end is centered with the wheel opening and you will have to clean the tab up good so it sits flush
@@1194video that’s what I’m doing now . Passenger side is good, now I’m working on the driver side, just as you sent the text msg, thanks
I got a flip kit but I wanna go lower pls help
You can remove the large leaf on bottom and next to that to go really low or cut rivets and flip front hanger and weld back on upside down
You can get lowering shackles that will replace your stock ones the lowering shackles will bring it down an extra 2 inches so the rear will be 8 in low
Do I need a c notch for this I got a 98 Chevy
every drop needs a c notch if you want it not to be hitting frame
@@nbs_david916 I want to get a 4/6 drop on 22s with a c notch would I need anything else?
why do we need to flip the guide pin around ?
Because it’s the pin that centers the perch and if you don’t the bolt head sticks out and contacts he axle keeping it from sitting flush in he new perches
@@1194video so I have to remove my flip kit again and flip the guide pin . I have the flip kit install but my rear end shifted , you think it’s bc I didn’t flip the guide pin ?
@@temp285 could be, the U bolts need to be torqued and the rear need to sit correctly in the flip perches
Link for the kit please
It’s in the description
U got a link for this
www.ebay.com/itm/Belltech-88-98-Silverado-Ext-Cab-5-7-Drop-w-SP-Shocks-Lowering-Kit-694SP-/223930064985?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&_trksid=p2349624.m2548.l6249&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0
Did my drop on my obs and my diff is a little pushed forward how can I fix it ?
Your flip kit should have an offset hole so it corrects the position on the rear. Mine had two holes
Turn the axle brackets around, you probably put them in backwards...
@@jcanfixall1585what are the axle brackets ? my diff moved a lil forward too and I wanna fix it
@@temp285 the half circle things with a flat spot on the bottom, they have a hole to align the rear axle on the leaf spring pin... When you lower a rear axle the bracket is designed to move it back about .5-1 inch...
@@jcanfixall1585 are they the black plates ? That the u bolts go to ?
Well it was a 7" drop but now it need 4" blocks and a z'd frame hahhaawww
Slam it!
Your axle brackets will crack and then leak if you do thos setup. You need the flip kit that has the flat plate that goes over the you bolts. Dont do this way. You will get alot of axle wrap
it’s no different than stock perches once you finish weld them to the axle, only way it could possibly crack the old perch is under heavy torque which show trucks don’t get very much of.
@1194video oh yes definitely a big difference. I fix these all the time this not the way 😂
nobody’s going to go spend 5k on links and coil overs dude, this does the trick even auto dealers run them on all their custom lot builds.
My cheap arse is going to use the stock parts. I'll just drill a hole where it need to be