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- Nick Wright alongside Chris Broussard, Kevin Wildes and Eric Mangini reveals his NFL QB categories and answers if the Miami Dolphins should give Tua Tagovailoa a monster pay day.
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Did he just forget that Jordon Love exists?
Jordan love threw off his back foot balls that should've been intercepted all season long and got away with it till the final game the final interception. Let's see how well he does this year when lucky breaks even out!
Tua top 5 QB in NFL. Patrick, Lamar, Josh, Purdy, then Tua.
@@tynosille6747 obviously you know nothing about football. Or jordan love. Or reality
Trevor Lawrence’s agent must be sending Nick a monthly check 😂
😂😂😂
He just won’t give up this take on Lawrence and it’s insane 😂
@@robdoesweather6758he has like 28% shares of the players rights like when a soccer team buys a Brazilian soccer player n agent pockets
When Nick sets on someone .. like or hate... that's where he stays.
@@barbaralovenvirth8726Mr consistency 😂
Them ripping Nick mercilessly for the graphic was amazing 🤣
they were wrong though, their only arguments were "Goff went to a Super Bowl! Hurts went to a Super Bowl!" like yeah because they were on stacked teams and had rookie contracts, i can't stand when analysts talk about this game like it's nothing but a tennis match betweeen 2 QB's...... just making it to a SB one time and losing doesn't instantly mean you're a great elite QB
@@mattcarberry368Trevor one was awful
@@mattcarberry368except hurts’ team was no different than the one that went 9-8 the year prior
That graphic was horrendous 😂
Yeah nick lost me with this graph. Jared Goff been to two superbowls. One with rams and with lions. He just not a starter. And Jalen hurts as a solid started sounds crazy. Caleb haven't even played in NFL yet. Its all blasphemy bro
Just say you’re a casual. If you pay your QB like a star, you can’t afford to have a great roster.
@@elijahroulhac jared geoff has not been to a superbowl with the lions lmao
@@calebford6318 I don't know who you are replying to. I hope it is me haha
@@HalfBakedRamen I mean 2 NFC title games and a superbowl my bad
Every time Brou says he like somebody he’s about to explain why he doesn’t like them 😂
Hilarious 😂
"It's a horrendous graphic." Well said.
Nick Wrong is in a relationship with Trevor Lawrence.
Hit Nick picked the Super bowl champions twice but now he's Nick wrong because of some graphic dude shut the f******
Very clever how you changed his last name. How’d you think of that?
Having an nfl graphic with QBs that have never played a single snap in the NFL is crazy
In Staffords defense, look at how many times they had a rb with 100 yard game. He had to be the offense every game.
Baker Mayfield has entered the chat
Stafford is underrated. He has some great performances in the playoffs too. Also Puka Nacua, Calvin Johnson, and Cooper Kupp don’t have those legendary seasons without a good QB
I mean Dak was Dallas's offense last year and with No Rbs really on the roster that have proven to be the guy and a depleted Offensive line, the team and Fans are expecting him to be better this year.....Wait Wtf is Dallas smoking
@@ne0n1nja247 I'll do you one better. Last year, Dallas ranked 31st in early down run efficiency. Only ahead of NYJ. ESPN also tracks how open a team's pass catchers were during the season. Dallas' pass catchers ranked 26th in this. Somehow Dallas still ended up #1 in ppg (4th year in a row for games Dak starts). Could be because the QB is very good, but hard to know.
@@ne0n1nja247put Stafford on Dallas they would have been won a Super Bowl
jordan love in his first year starting had a better year than lawrence has ever had in any of his 3 seasons
Not true! Packers had easy games in last half of schedule
@@matthewwilliams4168 bears defense was top 3 in the entire league after they got montez sweat. week 18 with a playoff trip on the line he played nearly flawless. vikings defense was improved. cowboys had a top 5 pass defense all year, love shredded them.
@@matthewwilliams4168 lol what do you mean not true it’s in black and white 🤣🤦♂️
Lawerence makes BAD decisions. He needs to read the field better for him to be considered a top 10 QB. Love made much better decisions.
@AntDaTrill so 3 good games makes you better than Trevor laurence? 😂 people avoid love 3-6 start cause he beat easy teams in last 8 games
Brou’s Stafford hate triggers me so much every time lol
Having purdy not be on star trajectory is sorta insane but I guess that’s Nick for you
the truth teller
He can’t stand that Purdy was the last draft pick.
He did exactly what Jimmy G. did. When he doesn't have an all time roster around him, everybody who thinks Purdy is anything other than an average starter will shrink back into their holes in shame.
@Freddie7191 are you Nick’s burner account by any chance
Brock Purdy has started 6 playoff games in his career. He’s thrown more than 1 TD in exactly one of those games.
I actually agree with the majority of the graphic
Except with Purdy right?
Anthony Richardson? And Trevor Lawrence too?
@@aaronsondag8347 I think solid is the perfect description for Purdy.
@@ForsecondbreakfastI mean I hate the Colts but Richardson could be something. You only got a small sample but there’s flashes
No😂😂😂 it’s ducking awful hurts should be 2 tiers higher so should goff baker purdy and dak nick is clueless
Nick is the friend that touches you too much when he talks.
Finally found the infamous graphic 😂 and Their hatred of it made it so much better.
Hahaha Jordan Love didnt even make it on there as a solid starter, but Williams and Richardson are potential stars? What has this guy been smoking? By these metrics Love is at best the 20th ranked QB
Somebody didn't watch the whole video
Somebody didn't watch any Colts games.
What colts games? The 4 that Richardson played in before his reckless playstyle got him hurt? The 4 games he finished with a sub 60 completion percentage, 144 yards per game, and a qbr of 45? Not to mention multiple fumbles?
@@conchurkunda8190 CRY 😭😭🥱🥱
Brock is better than the Prince so far. Beat him head to head and has better stats over all.
If you’re actually making that comparison you have never wanted a 🏈 game in your life buddy.
Brock Purdy has had more support than any QB in history
Superstar RB
2 Star WR
Top 3 NFL TE
A HOF LT
A dominant DEF
A stable franchise
A genius head coach
Trevor got a HC who assaults his players Urban Meyer and a train wreck of a franchise that has been among the worst in the league for forever
The fact Trevor has been even decent shows how talented and driven he is. Give him a actual franchise and a support system organization that isn’t trash and we’ll talk. Until then stop the comparisons.
@@mikhailboldt3417dude you are so ignorant it’s actually sad. Just stop embarrassing yourself and just take the L on your comment.
@@mikhailboldt3417 Coping much? If he's any good, he will prove it, but right now, he sucks.
@@mikhailboldt3417mahomes had more yac than Purdy when he won mvp. Stop with the hate.
@@mikhailboldt3417The Prince mid
Have to disagree with brou and mangini, Stafford had the 2 best receiver seasons ever, Calvin and Cooper, plus Pukas insane rookie year, its no coincidence all 3 of those came with stafford. He is absolutely a force multiplier
Just looking at what he was able to do with that Rams team last year that was predicted by many experts to have about 5 wins should tell you everything you need to know about him being a force multiplier.
I'm a lifelong 9ers fan, Stafford is a monster.
@@zackhurwitz9441 only those that have never really watched Stafford play very much don’t have him ranked amongst the best in the league. If you just look at his stats in Detroit and ignore all of the context around them, I get how you could come to the conclusion that he’s just an average qb, but for those of us that have watched him play a lot and understand how bad his teams, coaching and management were in Detroit, know exactly how much of a game breaker he can be.
First Things First should pay part of Tua's salary considering the number of times they discuss him!
Just FYI, Tua is not being traded and he is getting paid!
"It's a horrendous graphic." line by Brou got me good lol
I also love coach talking to Nick as if he was a misbehaving toddler
Mathew Stafford is absolutely a force multiplier
I love Nick that that graphic was all-time horrendously awful 😂😂😂
Nick said on his podcast that he was getting married - congrats!!
So he's to be The Princess?
He’s having his wedding but I think he said they’ve been married for like a decade already, still congratulations!
@@BLACKSHADOW97531 ??
@@AP-sr2lr Yes…
Purdy led the league in QBR (72.8), passer rating (113.0), yards per pass attempt (9.6), yards per completed pass (13.9) and passing touchdown percentage (7.0) he’s 19-1 in the NFC west and he’s been to the NFC championship game twice with 1 super bowl appearance. he hasn’t even played 2 full seasons yet, He delivers the ball on time with pure accuracy and is laser focused after making mistakes. If he was a first rounder nick would be in love with this guy. Purdy isn’t elite I get it but bro could play quarterback.
Actually no Nick isn’t “in love with him” because BP has never proven he can win with anything except the NFC pro bowl roster as his teammates. Purdy has a amazing offensive head coach, a stable awesome franchise behind him, the best RB in the nfl, 2 amazing WR, a top 3 TE, a hall of fame LT and a dominant defense behind him. You give that kind of support structure to any QB and they’re going to be pretty good.
I’m not saying BP sucks he doesn’t he’s very good I’d say Top 12-15 QB in NFL.
The only way he’ll prove he’s the guy not just a guy is if he does what he’s done already with a less than perfect roster. Eventually once the 49ers pay him and they will they’ll have to let a few of his stars go. At that point we’ll see how much of this is on Brock and how much is on the all stars on the team with him.
I’m open to all possibilities from Him blossoming into a top 5 QB and winning SBs to bottoming out and being exposed. It’s all on the table.
Until he’s able to have an extended run without this much star power alongside him we’ll never really know. He could win 10 MVP and 10 SBs and the questions will remain because they’re not about his talent they’re about his ability to maintain the current level of play given a slightly less favorable set of circumstances
He is a threat to mahomes, so nick tries to constantly tear him down.
@@mikhailboldt3417I totally respect what you are saying because I know I’m talking to a reasonable person who knows sports. but what’s the difference between purdy and stroud’s situation? It’s literally all bias man is all I’m trying to say. Stroud is more talented physically obviously but he’s on a good roster that has the opportunity to get even better because he’s on a rookie contract! plus they just got diggs. I don’t hear anything from nick but high hopes and praises. Instead of bashing guys for having help like they do with purdy they should be more supportive about it. We are on the verge of seeing Caleb get drafted by Chicago.. CHICAGO of all places. And when he’s running for his life with the bears and his career takes a slow start, nick will come on here and blame the bears for being a bad franchise for not having a supporting roster. Like I said its the bias “first rounder quarterback” man..
Just answer me this, if Brock purdy was the same guy he was 2 years ago but this time he’s the #1 overall pick going to the 49ers, would they still bash him?
Also, Jimmy G reached the Superbowl wjth the same team.
@@anaihilator and didn't do any records or lead the league like Purdy
Where is Jordan love at?
should be potential star
Should be Star Trajectory, if he plays like he did the second half of last season he’s elite, but even as a Packer fan I think he needs to prove he can keep it up; I obviously believe he will, but the future’s never 100%.
A single season of Jordan Love over Tua is absolutely insane
Since when everyone disrespect jalen hurts so much now
Cause he sucks
His one good year is looking like an outlier.
They all switched outfits and it messed my brain all up. lol
Nick had a graphic so bad he had to show it twice and explain himself two different ways to force it on the show 😂
As a Chiefs fan I'm always highly disappointed in Nick's opinions on quarterbacks on everyone outside Mahomes
He’s kinda right though I don’t wanna pay anyone on that bottom tier(except maybe hurts) 50-60mil a year that’s CRAZY
@@elnopalero4691If you had to pay the ones on the bottom or get another no name QB for your team to win, which one are you doing?
@@elnopalero4691no he isn’t right how is Caleb Williams above jalen hurts😂😂😂
@@BoogywoogiehimselfKyler if the team is a stacked as SF
The Stafford hate around the league, as always, is funny. Nick sees it.
Should the Dolphins pay Tua…
Nick: no because he is a solid starter and you cannot pay solid starters like superstars
Everyone else: what is this list….
Do they agree or disagree with Nick…the world may never know 😂
Arguments about which QBs go where aside, I think everyone is misunderstanding-perhaps deliberately-the point of the graphic. He's essentially dividing quarterbacks into three groups: the stars, or force multipliers, are those that you can pay big money to (thereby taking money, and star power, away from the rest of the team) and still win, those that can win if they have a solid team around them (which requires money to pay non-QB stars), and those not pictured that can't win regardless of how much they're paid. The middle groups are undetermined which of the three they will settle into. It's not that hard.
Thanks for making my day better today!
Trevor Lawrence looks like a created Madden character with the head size cranked all the way up
When Trevor Lawrence hits his stride and is elite theirs gonna be an armada of banners being dropped…lmao
The fact that it was the exact same graphic with different verbage is hilarious!
I can’t lie I actually liked Nick’s graphic the first time around lmao
😭😭😭
That graphic was crazy
Nick somehow saved Wildes from defending his Tua take with that graphic
Love these four guys together, Coach is the one I really listen to lol
COACH WITH THE HERBERT CARR TAKE🔥🔥🔥 (and kirk love🔥)
You gotta flip TLaw and Hurts. Hurts has only been a starter for 3 whole seasons and accomplished way more and hitting much higher ceilings.
That list wasn’t even bad and they refused to acknowledge his point….
Comparing Carr to Herbert and Cousins to Stafford, Mangenius 🙄 doesn't get it.
When a dominating defense executes absolutely perfect, yet the QB find a way to slice it open ... that's not Carr, Cousins, or Purdy. Stafford is a rollercoaster, but he does have that in him. It takes special ability.
The way Hurts played in the Super Bowl, and played hurt much of last season, he got a raw deal on the graphic. He should be looks like a force multiplier. If the Prince can be on there, Hurts should definitely be on that level.
Hurts wasn't hurt.
He lost Shane Steichan that's the difference
@anaihilator I don't know about that. I kept hearing that he was nursing an injury and it looked like it, too. He was not running well at all.
Hurts doesn’t get enough credit. He’s a top 5 quarterback in the NFL
@anaihilator He was dealing with a knee/ankle issue all season and still outperformed Lawrence during his healthy games.
Nah he might have been a Shane Steichen product.
It’s kinda funny because his career may work out exactly like Wentz’s career in Philly where he had two mediocre seasons followed by a great season that gets him paid big money only to immediately regress back to be being a mediocre QB. Lucky for Hurts that he isn’t hated by his teammates like Wentz was.
These guys are nuts. Tua, Jalen and Purdy are all good qbs.
You can quibble with the particular QBs in each tier but Nick’s general idea is correct. It applies in the NBA as well where if you pay a good player max money your team has a ceiling that is not close to the title.
6:12 "thank jaquiski tartt for that" 🤣🤣
T. Law is not on star trajectory nor does he look like a force multiplier oh my goodness Nick 😂
Nick not having Love on his graphic is insane. The only explanation is he just forgot Love exists.
Is he not in the looks like force multiplier section? I guess the only explanation is youre blind?
@@IcyDeath91 I assume you are blind? Let me know which group Love was placed in for Graphic 1, not Graphic #2.
putting Lawrence on star trajectory, lmfao
Well said, coach!
mahomes has had a great team pretty much all of his career greatest tight end and coach . Didnt have receivers last year but the defense was great.
First few years his defense was mid.
Receivers been average at best since hill left.
Coach is a straight up assassin!
I like the graphic
Where is Love?
It was the same graphic with slightly different terminology for the categories
Tlaw is a potential BUST not a star 😂
This is the best sports show I've seen, love it. Wiles and Brou are awesome, and I probably wouldn't like Nick if I wasn't a Chiefs fan, but I am.
I mean with Nick's logic, J.J. McCarthy should be a potential force multiplier since he's convinced he'll go top 5 but he's nowhere to be found. I think the jury is still out on his ability, but he's certainly not being Mr. Consistency
Actually, love the graphic Nick. Great point, if you pay the Solid Starts as if they are any of the Stars, then they have to be able to carry the team and push them forward. So for your co-horts, the reason that Pnilly and Dallas can't do anything is because they paid those QB's as if they are stars...and now realize they are not. They won because they are surrounded by hordes of talent. But once you pay on e $200million or whatever the "star" number is, all those stars can't stay. And then what. If you're a star, you keep winning. If you're a solid starter, you probably win regular season but forget about the playoffs. Yup, Nick, sounds about right. 100% with you
"it's my own list!" 😭😭
Usually I can see where Nick is coming from on his football lists but that graphic was complete insanity😂
Nick is so ahead of the curve, on how you rate and place professional athletes. There are so many factors and variables into what makes a player truly great, in a team game. The games have been mastered to such a point, that manipulating stats and productivity is much easier these days. The eye test, has never been more important. Agreed. Anthony Richardson in going to be a very dangerous man.
Jordan love is not a solid starter? This list is something man 😂
Hurt has more playoff wins than Stroud Lawrence and Herbert combined what in the world
The NFC is not the bloodbath the AFC is.
Agree with Nick, there are QBs worth the penalizing top QB salary, while other QBs would destroy a team's chances of winning with that same top QB pay, as they need more top talent around them.
Purdy hasn't shown that special ability ... he's like a better, more consistent Case Keenum; I'd demote Trevor and Love until they're more consistent; Richardson's too raw to even know if he can be just a good QB. Rodgers on the bottom is just age catching up
You don't know football
I hate every single one of Nick’s lists lol
Tua need to be healthy but Burrow gets to rock out lol.
Tua's played more games and has more wins despite having a bottom 5 pass blocking line every season and the first half of his career throwing to guys who didn't last 3 seasons in the league
Purdy could end up a HOF player, Nick wont change lol
Chris "tomato can" Broussard
I don't see how you can say those qb's at the top except Mahomes were force multipliers and Jared Goff is not. He's taken over 2 horrible teams and won 14 games with both.
Bro goff took the lions to a nfc championship when we haven't won 2 playoff games in a row since the merger that's a stupid list
As a chargers fan it’s funny seeing Nick praise trevor. When he down plays herbert but they have kinda been the same 😂
When it come to Tua if you are gonna hold health aganist him then you better add all the games he played in too not just 1 season. But they cant because then their reasonings wouldnt make any sense
Lawrence in the same bracket with Stroud and Herbert is crazy. Stroud has done more in one year that Lawrence has since being drafted.
Brou can't seem to fathom that his "objective" stats are indicative of a TEAM'S passing offense, and not just QB play. Nick is pretty much right.
Jalen hurts disrespect is insane
That's true. He's by no means the whole problem at Philly, QBs always get the blame for the team.
So why nobody ever talk about how burrow is always hurt
Wasn’t this aired yesterday?
The jordan love disrespectf is crazy
Everybody except Mahomes is getting disrespected, in tandem. Except maybe CJ Stroud because he was a rookie.
This may be the worst graphic in first things first history 😭😭😭
First time I agree with a list by nick.. is solid...
that graphic is horrendous. not having Jalen Hurts in the “already star” or “star trajectory” is absurd. his last two seasons have been just as good as everyone else and he’s done something Josh Allen hasn’t which is make the superbowl
Ehh no lol honestly they collapsed this year and he wasn't any better than half the other qbs. Hurts needs other great players for his team to get anywhere while if you look at josh allen who does he have and yet he still makes it deep in playoffs. You can say diggs but the last half of the season when allen went off diggs had less yards and tds than there 4th string qb.
i hope to have someone believe in me as much as nick believes in T-Law
Nick is calling out 2023 top QBs on their rookie contracts now?
I’m absolutely shocked Nick has Allen in the top tier and not trolling by putting him with the “solid starters”
He's called allen one of best qbs in the league. He just thinks Allen along with everyone else is nowhere near Mahomes. He has called Burrow the 2nd best before.
@@user-lv9cuI feel like Burrow has shown he’s too injury prone to be considered the second best. I don’t understand why no one talks about that with him
Nick's craziest graphic by far what else does Jalen Hurts have to prove to be at least a potential start? His love of Lawrence and Herbert at this point is just weird
Hurts has proven to be "solid" and nothing more..... he was actually pretty brutal last year, especially the 2nd half of the season, and *especially* for a guy who people try to argue is a great elite game changing QB
@@mattcarberry368 yeah but you forgot to say he was injured the majority of the season. And the eagles had the number 1 record on until late in the season when he just couldn’t manage the injury anymore. And has your QB made to a superbowl yet and only losing to Patrick Mahomes by 3 points?
Nick is like the smart younger brother you bully
And hence why he always acts like a child, always interrupting and so sensitive
He's wanna be smart, but actually stupid. Even blind chicken finds a grain of corn and even broken watch shows right time twice a day. he has horrible takes and once he gets right, he acts like he was 90% time right and actually he was 90% wrong.
We actually do not know whether or not Purdy can win without a stacked team. The kid simply does his job and he's pretty accurate. We shouldn't reduce his potential simply because of the team he is on. The same team that had less success with the same personnel, but different QBs.
QB as a rule get way too much money. Hopefully Jerry is setting the stage for not paying QBs … I agree with Nick
I agree that quarterback salaries are silly high and their importance to success overemphasized. A team strong in the trenches can get by with a lot of quarterbacks.
Nick has to be messing with them intentionally
Best sports show on RUclips
Tua is still better than the rest!!!! Y’all still hating 😂😂😂
The love for Josh Allen is crazy. Burrow too.
Nick love fest for Hurbert and Trevor is mind boggling. Not too mention he added Caleb Williams. 🤯 Caleb gon be a bust my guy
The Tua bashing is expected if you just look at the stats, and not watch the games. He's got his flaws, but so does the team. The entire team tends to fade as the season goes... im hoping McDaniels recognizes that consistent team problem this year 🤞. Either way, the team is now fun AF to watch vs the last 2 decades.
im a dallas fan and all the hate on prudy is making me like him more than any player in the league!
"..Gatorade"
That will never not be funny.
😅🤣😂