Quentin Tarantino Defends Bruce Lee's Depiction in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2019
- Quentin Tarantino responds to the recent controversy over Bruce Lee and his depiction in Once Upon A Time In Hollywood.
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Linda Lee was quoting a film critic who said "Lee would likely beat Ali" Bruce Lee never said it and Linda never said it. Bruce loved Ali and thought the opposite.
Victor Film Projection & Slots ... Bruce has been quoted as loving Ali’s door work. He respected his style. R.I.P Bruce
@@ANJIN79SAMMA Yes Bruce loved Ali's door work.Knock knock!! :) He also said if Ali got a punch in...He would be in trouble. Bruce was modest about that. The opposite of the stupid scene in Once Upon A Time in Hollywood. Bruce was confident and could back it up. He was not an arrogant bully.
Oops meant foot work
Bruce respected Ali immensely and would watch films of Ali’s boxing matches in a mirror, so Bruce could view Ali as if as if he were fighting out of a right lead stance...Bruce did this because in his “ style” Jeet kune do (his expression of Martial art) he fought out of a right lead ....he loved Ali and did not say that he would beat him
very insightful
Tarantino's calling anyone arrogant or cocky is the real icing on the cake.
illi Jo Nathan Diverse exactly what I was thinking. One of the cockiest person out there
LOL~
I see where you are coming from BUT Bruce Lee and Quentin Tarrantino are both proven masters of their craft so cockiness from either one would be forgivable.
That "anyone" is not jus anyone , if you know wat I mean.
Exactly. His head is so far up his own ass.
Bruce Lee was asked if he could beat Mohammad Ali and he laughed and said “his hand is the size of my head”
Ali wouldn't survive a round house kick to his head. I think with how fast and strong Bruce was, he was a legitimate human weapon
@@Paradroidx : True. And he constantly was tested in live combat. He only did the movie thing the last year and a half of his life, which is like the last 5%. So what was he doing then for 95% of his life: Getting into a ton of fights. Not sports. Actual fights. Against rival Martial Artist's, 3rd degree black belts, pro fighters, ex military who outweighed him by a hundred pounds. Even before his adulthood, his live-fight experience began at an early age of ten, being the best street fighter in his neighborhood he eventually had become the leader of the Hong Kong gang known as the "Tigers of Junction Street", eventually earning the attention of the Triads who wanted Lee to work for them. People really need to do their research...people like Tarantino the arrogant selfish idiot.
@@paulpolpiboon9535 Man QT is a big fan of Lee's. And martial arts movie's. This was made to be an upside down story. If you seen the movie yet
@@Paradroidx : he's not tho. He thinks Lee is arrogant
@@paulpolpiboon9535 that's true, in QT interview he said Bruce Lee was arrogant and full of himself. Which is not true.
It is truly u unfortunate that Bruce Lee passed away too early. He could've shown the world something better and did something unbelievable.
Bruce did! He gave us Jeet Kune Do.
He already did...but go on and vent.
On the flip side, had he stayed around, he could have ended up worse. Going down like Elvis or other high profile celebs like Chris Farley or any other terrible fate. I prefer to remember him as the way we do, as a legend in his time, despite how the world is slowly leaning towards mocking him these days, like they do Frank Dukes.
He did both
I think you're mistaking an actor for Messiah.
the young generation dont understand why bruce lee is still so
respected. In a time where the world was separated and in conflits
between ethnic groups everywhere on the planet : the cold war, USA vs
URSS/CHINA, the aparteid in AFRICA, the berlin wall in EUROPE, the
vietnam war in ASIA came in hollywood a chinese guy, born american with
german descent fan of mohamed ali, not allowed to learn avanced kung fu
technique with his master yip man because he wasn't 100% chinese. So to
complete his knowledge and not fall to the dark side of the force like
most of the world's population in that time did : he fought racial
prejudices and learned from others cultures and preached this philosophy his
entire life.
So they wanted brad pitts character to be the hero in this movie ... But what every motherfucker knows with bruce lee ... The whole world knows hes the realist hero
@@joyjoyhb I know, it's as if it's a movie or something :P
It's a shame that Q.T had to use an icon and an ambassador who not only broke down the walls of prejudices of a culture against non Chinese to learn martial arts. But Q.T stated that he was a big Bruce Lee fan that influence his movies that had martial arts in his films more to the point it's pitiful of Q.T to speak of a man who's not alive to defend himself and if Bruce was alive I like to see Q.T say it his face would be something awesome to see his ass get kicked.
If anything you have said is not true then none of it is true there for none of it was true. Bruce Lee was a fake martial artist and true martial artist killed him and his son. Tarantino is an idiot and his work of fiction is 2 most likely, I will never see it. I wrote the true story about what happened to Bruce Lee in my book called what really happened to Jun Fan Li? (being edited)
Why are you blaming “the next generation”?
They made Bruce lee so slow in the scene lol. People should watch real life videos of his actual skills. It was unreal and centuries ahead of his and our time
LOL tricks of the camera and nothing more. He was a movie star and a great fight choreographer, nothing more.
Ive always thought that Tarantino was kinda overrated.
But him thinking he knows about fighting, and the difference between a soldier, a martial artist, a sports fighter when it comes to combat... thats some absolute arrogance driven by absolute ignorance.
Hahaha. Now that you mentioned it; and his placing both in a fight shews how he thinks.
In Tarantino's next movie he'll portray George Washington as an Italian Mobster who shoots people in the back of the head
But there's a lot of people saying that Bruce Lee was always an arrogant guy, hell even Bruce Lee's wife said it herself. Don't get me wrong, I like Bruce Lee myself.
@@ytcorporate9237 I disagree in what Tarantino did here with Bruce Lee
In February 2018, audio resurfaced of a 2003 interview on The Howard Stern Show during which Tarantino defended Roman Polanski over his 1977 sexual abuse case. Tarantino referred to the then-13-year-old victim, Samantha Geimer, as a "party girl" and insisted that she "wanted to have it".
@@humberto6219 First Michael Jai White disrespects him by saying he can beat him, now you got QT talking bad about him. American people are the most ungrateful mean spirited nation of people on the planet. And we wonder why the world hates us.
@@austingilesjr.914 It's very bizarre
This Tarantino guy is insane
He is 100% wrong
Once upon a time in Tarantino's fanthasies.
Nope. Can't agree with Tarantino on this one.
It doesn't confirm the accuracy of his depiction by citing something that Bruce Lee or his wife might have said. Someone being an "actual" warrior and seen combat isnt confirming anything in the other character either.
The fact is Bruce Lee's true combat ability is a mystery compared to his known potential. Anyone trying to prove anything about his actual ability needs to bring facts related to that ability or lack of.
QT may have once being a global filmmaker; now, with this film, he has retreated to his nest. Ubi sunt principes antequam?
Bruce Lee invented Jeet Kune Do and the way he jump in the movie like an idiot is absolutely not the Jeet Kune Do way.
David B. A shit sport that no one trains, amazin.
Yes jeet kune do is incredibly useful inside a dojo against 30 opponents attacking you simultaneously, Bruce once kicked in the ass everybody in an very realistic scene. I love my Bruce kicking ass in fiction but I hate him loosing a fight in another movie. One is true and legit the other is just horse shit. Legend
Henry Brekk Jeet Kune Do is not a sport. It is a philosophy. Do some research before saying stupid things. You could learn something maybe.
David B. So he created nothing, Even better.
Henry Brekk ok
He did Bruce dirty!
I laughed my ass off, and I love Bruce!
the phone no repeats "Gothic"
In February 2018, audio resurfaced of a 2003 interview on The Howard Stern Show during which Tarantino defended Roman Polanski over his 1977 sexual abuse case. Tarantino referred to the then-13-year-old victim, Samantha Geimer, as a "party girl" and insisted that she "wanted to have it".
Bruce is a hero of mine, no doubt. In real life, Bruce broke his back working out. He slams into the car doors and gets right back up in this scene. Like so many things in this movie Tarantino wishes didn't happen in real life, his career taking a serious hit because of his back was also one of them.
@Trips no, if u watch the movie u can clearly see that Tarantino was not flipping Bruce character upside down
Why is everyone questioning whether Bruce was a good fighter or not when the biggest names in UFC give respect to Bruce and says he would've been a UFC champ if he was in his prime right now. Dana White, Joe Rogan, Jon Jones and even Conor (who was last person he gave respect to?) give Bruce props. Bruce will always be a legend.
Most boxers would destroy Lee
Steven Om Fighters respect bruce because he was the first. The first man to take practical elements of different styles and find uses for them all. JKD is just a crystallised version of MMA and in a lot of ways bruce was ahead of his time in terms of martial arts. That being said, it would be ridiculous to argue he could compete today because of the training programmes available today across all martial arts. Not to say he couldnt pick things up pretty quickly, but with the skillset he died with hes not a top 50 fighter in any weight class.
@@huey6248 Boxers have a hard time with kicks.
Who said that a prime Bruce Lee would be UFC champ, if he ever were to compete? Seems dumb to me that someone would think a guy who never competed would be the best competitor - you have to earn that title through competition.
It's obligatory for them to give lipservice to Bruce Lee. Those same fighters would really destroy Bruce Lee in a fight
No Lee had respect toward Mohamed Ali as he partly based his own style on Mohamed Ali’s fights.
yep his footwork bruce collected allot of boxing events on video and Ali was the main one he enjoyed watching he liked Ali's footwork
This is the part of the movie that disappointed me. I was excited to see the depiction of Bruce Lee, but this was so far from the legend. It is a shame, truly. For the younger people, this is all they see of the man.
Bruno'sBaBySquirrel
Tarantino is talking like he has met and spoken with Bruce before. Maybe Bruce as a person is not the great legendary figure people make him out to be. Rarely such superhiman perfect people exist, its more likely than not that he was just as flawed and overrated as everybody else.
@@octavius8562 yes it doesn't, but seeing sth like that from QT is shame. I for one , never watch Qt movie anymore. This is the end for me.
Young people are too stupid to understand that this not a historical depiction?
@@shihoblade Lol I see his interview has twisted your mind. No Tarantino is 100% wrong there. Bruce Lee was never arrogant. Tarantino made up everything he claimed Bruce Lee said. Just look around in the comments for evidence.
I like Tarantino movies but he seems to hate a certain type of people in every one of his movies.
Asians?
@@the_number_one No
@@captainjacksparrow1518 elaborate.....
@@batman4452 watch his movies
@@captainjacksparrow1518 I have... You mean blacks? NAzi? Asians? Women? Racist white men? Theres many types of people he puts down in his films.. you're acting like there's a obvious one.
It is a bit strange how Quentin is able to say Bruce lee would lose in this fight scenario if it was real. Like its a big call!?
Tarantino did something very classless and wrong here. He took a real life icon and diminished him in a fictitious encounter against a fictitious person. What the hell was he thinking?
Just what every edgy boomer think , " i am kool "
Yeah, I was very confused when I first saw the movie. What made him decide to do this? Just thought it was very weird. I don't think that scene needs to be in there.
Character development maybe. What better way to demonstrate someone’s power than by kicking the legendary Bruce Lee’s ass in a fight
Arrogant who think himself as a total badass
Are you talking about Tarantino ?
I'd like to think that it was in Cliff Booth's version of the story.
JuanRetrofónico exactly! How does no one else see that? He was obviously playing this out in his head so it’s basically the characters interpretation.
Yeah, I think everyone complaining didn't actually watch the movie or they were not paying attention at all. It is pretty obvious that Pitt's character is fantasizing a bit about what happened.
Hell yes! Nuff said. Im f'in gay for Bruce Lee but i really identified personally with pitts character and because of the "booth perspective" common sense understanding i immediately acknowledged i loved the scene even. But then again i was in a sense raised by Cinema.
What makes you think so? No toher scene in the movie seems to be hinting at Booth's imagination. On the contrary, he's always portrayed as the guy who can sort things out, deal with any issue and kick all sorts of ass. Including Lee's
@@C0T0HA Notice in the scene how a dozen people just mysteriously disappear when the fight starts? To me that's a pretty strong hint that it's Cliff's day dream and preferred recollection of events.
We know his legacy but depictions this day and age are powerful...
Man, Tarantino is making an ass of himself. Look, i really don't have a problem with the scene in which Bruce Lee is portrayed. It's a daydream that Pitt's character is having it's HIS DAYDREAM, ok. Our daydreams don't have to conform to a certain standard that is just ridiculous. Saying that, Linda Lee did not say that Lee would beat Ali in a fight, she was quoting an excerpt from a TV critic:www.quora.com/Did-Bruce-Lee-really-say-that-he-could-beat-up-Muhammad-Ali-in-Linda-Lees-first-biography-as-Quentin-Tarantino-claims
Tarantino is just saying this to defend his own legacy but it's a lie, point blank and it's just really really sloppy that Tarantino would say this without knowing the real facts behind it.
So, the scene where Bruce Lee says he would smash Ali is based on a lie and that is something i cannot be cool with
It's a movie. Fiction. Fake. Get over it.
James Docherty ....is it not okay to be annoyed that a very honorable person’s reputation was tattered by this movie?
Tomakak .. can people be offended without being called snowflakes? lmao you need to calm down
Tarantino is a brilliant filmmaker, a legend , but Bruce lee is an icon and loved around the world ... wish there was more respect there from QT
estelle valentina exactly, 💯 agree
You should not touch Bruce Lee.
That makes me dislike you Tarantino.
What’s wrong with poking fun at him
Bruce is a hero of mine, no doubt. In real life, Bruce broke his back working out. He slams into the car doors and gets right back up in this scene. Like so many things in this movie Tarantino wishes didn't happen in real life, his career taking a serious hit because of his back was also one of them.
@@GoatsOnABoat-rt1wz allot of dumber kids will misunderstand Bruce Lee and more ignorance comes. The man was a legend in his field and made huge impact. it's like popular movie maker would make Mozart into some ''retard'' . it's not that humor is forbidden just the way this was done makes allot bad impression on him. Its not that it was Lee even if it would have been Jet Li, Jackie Chan or someone else and made this dumb scene it devalues him. The fight was dumb also he started with some flying jump kick and repeated that like idiot he never fought this way when he was challenged. And because Tarantino is popular film maker for mass then allot of people will get this retarded view on Lee. While people should really see first interviews with his family and friends. Dan Inosanto, Shannon, Kareem Abdul Jabbar. all who were close to him said he had his temper but was respectful but he wasnt a stupid clown like in this scene. Also he learned from Ali and researched his movement. This whole scene is very bad taste, i understand if it was done by some random film student or clickbait youtruber but from tarantino it leaves just bad effect and bad taste.
I had the good fortune to interact with Bruce Lee at the 1967 Internationals and the Cal State tournament in San Francisco, 1969. I was one of the only white practitioners of Chinese Gung Fu in U.S. Karate tournaments at the time, and James Yimm Lee invited me to the Jun Fan Gung Fu Institute at his home in Oakland; where Bruce and Linda first went after leaving Washington. Bruce was one of the coolest guys I ever met; not the insecure, mortido-oriented little braggart Tarantino portrayed in the film. Bruce was a bigger person than that. In general, I thought OATIH was based on a brilliant idea: "What would have happened if the Manson Family went to the wrong house that night?" Now, Quentin gets to slaughter someone everyone in Hollywood hates. Genius, really. But trashing Bruce in the process was uncalled for That said, Bruce would have laughed at it. The portrayal was like the rest of the movie: intended as a humorous abstraction of life. I get that and I think Bruce would have, too. Still, I think Tarantino should have considered the family and friends, first.
"Historical Fiction" is one of Tarantino's deals... Remember "Inglorious Bastards?"
I think Quentin doesn't really want to say it...but his depiction of Bruce Lee was a microcosm of how hollywood actors behave in general.
Absolutely love Bruce Lee, and respect and admire and remain inspired by him to this day. I think people don’t see what a lot of scenes were setting up.....that Brad’s character Cliff was the toughest superhero like guy in the movie.. It was great! And it was a fairytale.
Kinda true. He coldblooded that's for sure. But that moment in movie, that fight was absolute clown story, and choreographer is a clown for this one.
I'm Seacabo oh definitely, that wasn’t Bruce Lee
Then they should have shown like He is beating Mohamed Ali.....
Plus he's shown as a much kinder & humble dude later in the film
You are the perfect kind of fan
Yeah I'm glad Joker beat this movie at the Oscars.
Bruce Lee was inspired by Mohammed ali and it inspired his style of fighting he would never say that..Taeinto is a liar.
Tarantino wantsto destroy the image if Bruce Lee by lying to the public view when he said he heard people say and not knowing the truth about Bruce Lee so this movie is actually a hate towards Teacher Bruce lee.
probably was ordered to mock strong asian image. more gulliable people think everything is random. but look what tarantino does. Bruce Lee is like Clint Eastwood to asian community(over world really). its like to world cultural strong man figure is mocked. also he made these weird nazi films what is also political crap beacuase everyone with brain knows that america always only makes hitler and nazis bad guy even when churchill was similar monster basically said all indians should starve to death and let use chemical wepons on tribes and so on. so in nutshell these things are to make kids more ignorant to reality again. but maybe tarantino really is dumb on many things.
@@MeelisMatt and tarantino was a little shit whose mother was an actual whores who fucked blacks for money. Very moldable.
Even chuck Norris said Bruce was the real deal. Quentin made a mistake doing this
*People need to lighten up.* I'm old enough to remember Bruce Lee when he was still alive, and he was cocky. That's why that parody of him in the movie worked. It was very funny because you can easily imagine it. I also like Once Upon A Time because for once Quentin Tarantino didn't use the "n" word in a movie. That's a huge improvement.
It being a fantasy doesn't make it less disrespectful. He wouldn't do this to a legend like Muhammed Ali, so he shouldn't have done this to Bruce.
I doubt Tarantino would hesitate to mock anyone if it came up as apart of his vision for a film
The Movie is not meant to a biographical portrayal.....its an alternate reality, fictional as it gets and its a joke.
Not to mention it's a daydream sequence.
@@kevinzhang3313 no its not.
@@TheIrishGamerGuy Yes, it is. Watch it again somehow if you decide to be more open.
Kevin Zhang it isn’t tho
SolidSnakeSix Except Tarantino justified it by incorrectly citing real life quotes that were never actually said. It’s very easy to see Tarantino does not respect Bruce Lee and it’s a little unfortunate.
TARANTINO IT HAS NO HONOR.
RIP Bruce Lee, RIP Muhammad Ali, mad respect to Quentin Tarantino for such a wonderful and enjoyable movie
@Spectre So that makes it a bad movie?
I'm a Bruce Lee fan and a Tarantino fan as well. I really don't think they showed Bruce in a bad light. It was a fictional encounter. If anything, a seasoned war veteran that fought hand to hand is not gonna leave an opponent unscathed. I dont think that Bruce got beat in that scene. He just got taken down a notch, like everybody in the world does. But it was fictional, anyways. An awesome movie. It was like a window to the past.
Yeah i'm a huge fan of both, but the scene itself i don't see anything wrong with it other than the part where Bruce says he would kill Ali in a fight. Bruce would never disrespect Ali like that he respected Ali too much to say such a thing
original script was written for bruce lee to outright lose, only after objection by people on set did they settle for a draw/going to lose scene.
I love this film, really.....but I despise Tarantino so much to do that to the legendary Bruce Lee
(I can't understand because he made a great tribute to him in Kill Bill)
Part from some wonderful stories of fights before he come USA is official fight record. ZERO! Some footage of a demo spar that wasn’t massively impressive.
This is fucking Bruce Lee! He was his time so far ahead #Legend
Is Quentin Tarantino really heard Bruce Lee said it? If he really heard it with his own ears.. Then i would believe him, if not.. Well Then he's just a low key jealous fan boy..
Quentin Tarantino should prove it what he said he heard, sounds like hes jealous of Bruce Lee
Tarantino was born in 1963, he’d have been 10 years old when Bruce Lee died, so if he heard it directly I’d be surprised, if it was recorded there’d be evidence.....
I think cliff was on acid. Sifu Bruce lee wasn't this meowing cat, "wooo-aaahh" kind of guy. He was a true martial artist. Quentin Tarantino should be more respectful to a legend who brought the arts to the west
Bruce made some weird sounds in his movie fights.
@@BootlegFightVideo that's my point... he wouldn't make the noises in a real fight, as it took place off camera in the story
Not stating facts here but I remember reading somewher once upon a time that thos silly sounds ain't even Bruce. This was back mid 80s in some magazine or something. I remember because ut made sence to me as a kid brcause i found those sounds really silly, still do.
@@simbamasaku1 he never made those noises they were dubbed over it wasn't even from him it was from some other guy
It will just be a matter of time before someone gives Tarantino the beating of his life! God forbid it better not be ME!
Lol, who are you in front of tarantino.
You are saying better not be me . 😂😂😂 keyboard warriors are always great.
@@uchihasasuke0707 Who is he in front of tarantino? A normal man, who is in front of a frail bitch who defends convicted sex offenders and demonises 13 year old victims and say "they where asking for it" My dead grandpa could take out this piss shit.
People really ought to chill out like they said it is just a movie! And I've got to say the most entertaining film I've seen in a long time and some of Tarantino's best work! Two thumbs up for me!
Well I live in Japan and it was uncomfortable to watch that scene, I know Lee was not Japanese but he was from Asia and the theater was full of people who I guess must enjoy Tarantino’s movies. All the characters were getting their nice shots, hell even Manson got it better than Lee. I don’t understand why showing that scene, mocking a martial artist legend who also passed in a young age and whose son would die tragically in the set of a movie (Brandon Lee The Crow) But then again this is Tarantino not Spielberg we’re talking about, and the overall movie wasn’t good, but I liked the happy hypothetical ending.
STFU Bruce Lee was just an actor
ChromerSatanas just a actor? You are just a piece of shit
@@xChromerSatanasx
He is an actor.. But if he participate in the ufc, he'd be more famous than Connor McGregor, and definitely a 155 lbs division champion.. That's for sure..
@@rebeccazhu7348 LMAO
@@ameerulaqmalmalek9470 well that is a big *BUT IF* fact is he never had a real fight and FACT is he was an actor and that can't be disputed regardless of what you fantasize about
been great Fan of Tarantino watched all of his movies. Tarantino Just killed himself. I Promise never to watch his movie again.
Awe. You trump snowflakes are so sad.
@@mjl4010 There's more to the world than America
Randall Miguel I completely agree.
unknowning unknown actually - I don’t know. 😀
What?
Scene was kinda out of character with Bruce Lee getting beaten by this stuntman dude who is drinking and smoking heavily. This guy is clearly not an athlete at all.
Bruce Lee would lose to any normal size human who can throw a punch
@@vincentg2618 youre stupid sir look up jim kelly , joe lewis and hear what they had to say about bruce and then you can apologize
Quentin Tarantino says he heard Bruce say things like Bruce died in 73.... QT was born in 1963 so he was 10 yes old
I expected actual Tarantino interview material, per the title of the video.
This movie only shows one thing and one thing only Tarantino did not do his homework on Bruce Lee. Look up Joe Lewis on RUclips on Bruce Lee he could hold out a 75 lb barebell straight out for over 30 seconds Bruce Lee would destroy whoever they put in front of him.
Muhammad Ali would've battered him mate, weight classes exist for a reason, Bruce was what 5 foot 6 and 130 lbs? Muhammad was 6 foot 2 220 lbs multiple time heavyweight champion boxer,
@@martinmcneela7336 in a limited form of combat in boxing 🥊 only. Bruce Lee was 5ft8 inches weight anywhere from 138-165
Too bad he couldn’t hold out against a fictional character in a fictional movie. Apparently holding a 75 lb barbell didn’t prepare him well enough. Too cocky, anyway.
I am a practitioner of Jeet Kune Do
which is Bruce Lee fighting method . I will say that I saw the scene and yes at first before the actor portraying Bruce took off his shades ,he looked and sounded like Bruce . But after that happened the mistake that takes place in all movies concerning Bruce happened . Anybody who ever portrayed Bruce failed horribly 😤 . They never truly moved, fought or performed like Bruce . Bruce never fought in the streets the way that these directors or writers portrayed him in their movies . Although Tarentino scene and portrayal of Bruce vs the stunt man was as funny as watching some one throw 2 shoes at President George Bush junior at a news conference , the way they portrayed Bruce Lee was inaccurate 🥋
I wish there was an asian movie does the same with fake action stars like John Wayne, Chuck Norris or Clint Eastwood.
The legend of Bruce Lee won't be hurt by any movie made by Tarantino. I mean, there is no invincible man, and his victory would depend on the situation, style, weight and many other factors. The thing that bothers is that he, of all people, believes, that a book he read and maybe some tv interviews can give him a hint of how a person is really like. He should know that once a camera turns on, people start acting, even if they are not actors.
After reading his defense, i think Quentin is more like his depiction of Bruce lee in this film... 😂 He was so sure on what he was doing... Heck, he killed Hitler...
Pure American Response.....Tarantino lost my respect...Now I kind of Hate Brad Pitt also for acting in that scene....
I don't see anything wrong with taking some air out of the giant hot air balloon that fans have created regarding how incredible Bruce Lee was and how he could beat pretty much anyone. The way fans talk about him, you'd think he was the Second Coming or something.
Who cares? It was a three minute scene meant to ask whether Bruce Lee would win in a fight against someone who was trained in actual fighting, and clearly had no resolution. No need to make such a big deal out of what was clearly an homage to Bruce's skill and impact on Hollywood and lives of many people.
Bruce lee is a legend and he must be respected, as far this movie his image won’t be spoiled everyone know that, but still shanon has the right to be angry,
muhamad albadai if I were the director, I would not do something that a respectable dead man can’t defend.
denniszenanywhere I agree with you
denniszenanywhere Do you hold the same sentiment for Hitler in Inglorious Basterds?
@@07foxmulder hitler was a twat, try that with Oscar Schindler or someone revered.
I don't think of Bruce lee any different...its just a movie guys calm down
Mark robinson movies subconsciously impact the entire society.
@@Kjp90 not me! it didn't change my mind! Like I said!
@@Markrobinson-bb3ti i said society, not you.
@@Kjp90 iam apart of society
@@Markrobinson-bb3ti as with anytime someone refers to society as a whole, it does not mean there are zero exceptions. if you needed me to clarify that, i doubt your assertion that you don't think of Bruce Lee any differently- you may not even realize the difference between conscious and unconscious minds.
Bruce will always be my hero happy to see him on movies again
Shannon Lee was all of 4 years old when Bruce Lee died so her opinion is pretty much what other people have told her about him.
This is Tarantino's version of Avengers Endgame, in which he's showing us the 1 outcome, out of over 14 million outcomes, that Bruce Lee actually loses a fight.
incorrect he did not actually lose it was a tie after the dust settled
And that 1 outcome is still a dream .
Tarantino lost my respect.
pussy
Lmao such a wuss.
😂😂
I saw an interview with Linda Lee and she said that if Bruce and Ali were put into a room and allowed to fight their way that she believed Bruce would come out the winner. Ali in an interview said he would only fight a martial artist if he weren't allowed to kick. Well, that's unfairly handicapping the martial artist for that is a huge part of their style. In a recent study as to who punched harder a boxer or a martial artist, the boxer won hands down primarily because he spends the majority of his training just hitting where the martial artist has to invest time kicking, learning katas, weapons, etc... Myself personally having been involved in both fields, it's hard enough to knock a man down even more so knockout someone within your own weight class. Ali was 6'3 Lee was 5'7, Ali weighed 220 lbs Lee 135lbs, an Ali jab would be too much for Bruce to handle.
I think it comes down to labels people are given. They never really give the full picture or explanation of the person they are attached to. Someone is labelled a martial artist, but it doesn't describe their style, techniques, philosophy, reaction and level of commitment. Someone is labelled a stuntman/woman, but it doesn't describe their eye for detail, their mathematical knowledge, split second timing, and physical abilities. The scene in the movie for me plays right into that as both Bruce and Cliff believe they have the measure of each other from what the other has said in that short space of dialogue. They both got caught out in false expectation, and adapted on the fly. I don't think it was disrespectful to Bruce Lee, because he wasn't just a martial artist. It's just one aspect of a truly amazing man 🙂
I think they are making too much of a deal out of that, Bruce Lee os still one of the most badasses actors of all time, no matter what, even that scene in the movie
Before seeing this I could defend that scene, because my thoughts were "oh he's just parodying how some people saw Bruce Lee" But with those explanations he gave. I can't and I'm disappointed. I love Tarantino as a director and love all the films I've seen by him, but he misrepresents an icon here. Also I don't care for how that fight went. Bruce Lees only hit is one Brad Pitts character probably let him have, it would have been ok if there wasn't a clear answer of who'd win, but it's ruined because Tarantino himself says Brad Pitts character would win.
So I've made a number of comments on this brouhaha...and here I go again, lol. People are worked up on both sides of the issue; many are ones defending Bruce's character and many are like, "Chill the fuck out, guys; it's just a movie." Here's my two yen on that shit: Bruce Lee means a LOT to people. Asians have a looong-ass history of being marginalized and lampooned and stereotyped in the movie/TV industry, and the ONE TIME where one individual went "I'mma CHANGE all that" was when this little Chinese guy who played Kato on The Green Hornet and made it THE show to watch got denied the lead role in a TV series he fucking CONCEIVED and decided to blast his foot through Hollywood's backdoor by returning to Hong Kong and starring in a handful of kickass movies that revolutionized martial arts pictures, broke box office records all over Asia, and had goddamn Warner Bros-the studio that screwed him out of the Kung Fu series-practically begging him to do the very FIRST international East/West collaboration with Golden Harvest Studios, the film company he put on the global map with his unstoppable and borderline fanatical drive, talent, and self-belief. No Asian that followed him has even come CLOSE to achieving what he did. Like the equally iconic Ali-someone he admired the shit out of in spite of what Tarantino would have you believe-Bruce transcended being a martial artist or an actor/filmmaker or even someone of Asian descent who straddled the Eastern and Western continents with ease. He was, as he stated in his famous Lost Interview, a human being. And one who connected not just to Asians but to all minorities around the world. As I heard someone say once, "In the '70s, if you walked into any young black man's room, you were almost guaranteed to see three posters: The Jackson 5, Muhammad Ali, and..." I'll give you one guess who. And as many Asian dudes from that era will tell you, after Lee exploded on the scene-and this period of time didn't last long enough for me-non-Asian dudes would think TWICE about fucking with you because, "Hey, that tiny Bruce Lee cat is one bad motherfucker so who knows about THIS one?" Yeaaah…those were the days, lol. Anyway, all that and more, my friends, is what Quentin is stepping on when he fucks with the image of the Little Dragon, so try to have a tad more empathy for the negative reactions. ‘Cause if you DON’T…cue cracking knuckle sound.
Tarantino stuffed up here Bruce Lee's speed & power would have dominated this chap
If I was daydreaming about fighting Bruce Lee I'd think I could win too 😅😂🤣
Tarantino lost it .. film should be a 4 on a scale of 10 .. if you don’t know a legend it’s not wise making him look bad .. you have issues
who was that smiling guy in the movie? the one that came by the houseooking for someone2:29
That was Charles Manson
trebeezy16 ohhhh
Tarantino could've simply apologized and explained that his movie was not meant to depict Bruce Lee as is but it was intended to be satirical, like so many of his fans are trying to cast it as. Instead he crosses them by proving that he really doesn't know shit for someone claiming to be a fan of Bruce Lee and becomes a perfect example of someone insensitive to the racial history of Hollywood by not doing proper research. This isn't the first time he did this in his decades of directorship, however, so I don't even want to bother with wasting any more breath on shaming him.
theres no need to humiliate lee like that. coming from a tarantino fan.
Bruce lee was to the max, athletics, art, creativity and humanism....sure he was cocky....but this is only a tarentino movie 🍿 lol who cares
What people don't understand when they say Bruce would lose to fighters of today is that if he were still alive today he would not have sat idle. He would have continued to train, learn, and push his mind and body to new heights. Maybe he wouldn't be the greatest fighter in the world, but if he were alive today I know he would have learned everything new we know now, and still be one of the best and certainly the most influential.
The fact the reason for the scene is Cliff trying to remember why he was fired (beating up Bruce) just made me assume that shit never happened lol.
I don't think this will hurt his reputation. I'm pretty sure on that.
Tarantino: “This is a work of fiction”
also Tarantino : "Bruce Lee was kind of an arrogant guy, I didn't just make a lot of that up"
@@chy4919 He was arrogant at times in his life though. Because he was enormously talented and skilled, but still a human being. Tarantino's not the first to point that out either.
People like to cite what he was like towards the end of his life, after he'd seriously injured himself and was forced to be introspective for a long period of time. People tend to learn more after they've suffered a failure.
Bruce Lee showed tremendous character and wisdom towards the end of the life, but that didn't come out of nowhere. He had to work at it. The vast majority of people never get to that point. Not because they're incapable of it, but because they don't put the level of work into it that someone like Bruce Lee did.
I thought Mike Moh did a really good job. He definitely look the part and got everything from the body down to a T. In the scene I didn’t really have a problem with the way that Bruce Lee was handled because even know that Brad Pitt did throw him to a car Bruce got right back up and continued to fight him not only that but before Brad Pitt did that, Bruce did get a kick out of him and knocked him down to the floor first so I don’t think the betrayal of Bruce Lee is disrespectful to him. However I can see where Bruce Lee’s daughter is coming from because as a father your child does look up to you and how you see your father is very different from how everyone else sees her father.
No disrespect to Bruce Lee fans and I'm one of them, it's just a movie people.
This tarantula guy needs to be punished
HAHAH let's whoop his ass bro
I love Shannon's quote!!!
Once Upon a Time in Chinatown, Hollywood
The other thing about Bruce Lee is that he actually never made those fighting scream sounds. Those were always dubbed in by someone else in his movies. He might have made grunts and yells during fights but never the high pitched squealing you hear in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood
i'm a life long lee fan and this scene was hilarious people need to lighten up i don't see anybody complaining about sharon tate NOT getting butchered ? and quentin will be a fan of Bruce just as much as any of us hence the nod to game of death in kill Bill
But the point was he purposely portrayed lee to seem like an arrogant asshole. And humiliated his name
awesome fan by making him look like a joke and then claiming he was actually an arrogant asshole in real life. what a fan.
For the family and true fans of bruce lee, I WILL NOT GO TO SEE THIS FILM...
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Care more about that than the Manson murders? Ooooooookay.
Anywho a lot good points has been made here and lets not make it personal we should be able to have opinions as well a healthy debate and dialog it's clear that we are passionate people with some good points and different views and it's OK to agree to disagree, after all this is what make us human. Certainly we're all unique individuals and interesting as we all have something to bring to the table to share and express. A quote from Bruce Lee philosophy "True martial arts is that one can express himself honestly". Peace out everyone may you all have a great week and good things happen for you and those that you love.
Amen!!#
They should be honored that he was remembered by the director regardless of the seen👍👍👍
This has got to be one of the most ridiculous idiotic comment I've ever read on u tube. Honored the director remembered him you can't be that stupid impossible. Bruce Lee is by far the most popular well known martial artists in the world. All the greatest fighters of today have gotten their inspiration from Bruce Lee.
I don't really care about depicting him as arrogant just the idea that some run of the mill stuntman would be able to beat him in a fight seems a bit silly.
That's the point that passed you by though. Cliff Booth isn't a run of the mill stuntman. The scene begins with Bruce Lee telling everyone about his views on fighting and the type of fighters that are better than athletes judged on form. True warriors who fight in real combat. Who are better than him. These statements are if memory serves, at least paraphrases of things Lee actually said or wrote.
What Lee and the audience don't know is the hypothetical warrior he's describing? That's Cliff Booth right down to the ground: WWII veteran, decorated war hero, ex U.S. Army Special Forces Green Beret. Never fought in a ring, but killed plenty of men in hand to hand combat.
Tarantino's genius is to be the one person who payed attention to what Bruce Lee said about fighters who were better than he was, and then craft his fictional character from that as a starting point.
The scene was funny as. Bruce is great but small, yeah a big guy would have probably picked him up and thrown him
I bet Bruce Lee is in the spirit world regretting the fact that he should had never taught Non Chinese the art of self defense because of people like you and QT.
Just because you are a bigger fighter that doesn't mean that you can beat on a smaller guy. I think people are stupid nowadays 😂. Just remember David and Goliath... Also, another good example is Samson from the Bible. I believe that God decides who wins and who looses, it's not on how much you train, but it depends on God.
Man It was just about to git serious,, man give us some more,
My guess is if he used chuck Norris instead he would have beaten brads character easy no problem. Hmmm
Racism then. QT is a passive racist
#QuentinTarantino is desperate it seems! Done with him! #IWantHisScalpNow #SomeoneGiveHimThePinkMist 👍🏾😆
Quentin Tarantino did an oopsie.
That '69 Lincoln woulda never got dented like that. It got disrespected as well.
Any BODY making a dent such as that would've been a dead body! :)
This is Hollywood we are talking about here. Can't expect much from that septic tank.
I am a Bruce Lee fan I think it was dirty the way he did Bruce not happy 😒
fan boy
You do know that it was the Bruce Lee character that challenged Cliff to the match, right?....Cliff didn't issue the challenge...he just told Bruce what he thought and then Bruce suggested the match to see who gets put on the ground first...
it isn't just disrespect Bruce Lee, also his fans and material art lovers
Personally I don't like Bruce Lee either but it's sneaky to stain a deceased decent guy's name at the same time put him on the film poster