2009-2010 PBA GEICO Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship Stepladder Finals

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  • The stepladder finals of the 2009-2010 PBA GEICO Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship feature Jason Belmonte, Brian Ziesig, Walter Ray Williams Jr., Wayne Garber and Mike Machuga.
    Originally aired on ESPN March 28, 2010 from AMF Babylon Lanes in West Babylon, New York.
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  • @igoramaral95
    @igoramaral95 5 лет назад +96

    We need the plastic ball tournaments back. All of them were great shows

    • @leebertie57
      @leebertie57 4 года назад +3

      I love it...it shows you who the best shotmakers are when they all use the same equipment.

    • @flipper9038
      @flipper9038 4 года назад +8

      @@leebertie57 Also proves the old people saying "give people plastic and watch scores go down" are idiots lol.

    • @leebertie57
      @leebertie57 4 года назад

      I am talking about using the same ball across the field...not specifically using plastic. But folks can definitely score well with plastic. They do not have to make as many adjustments.

    • @doomusrlc
      @doomusrlc 4 года назад

      @@leebertie57 I could see the ball companies having a fit over having to not rep their equipment on the show. Maybe if the PBA could make a rule that the bowlers can only use ball X for each company? Simple pancake weight ball and that's it for each one (i will note I have no clue if each company has a pancake weight heh). But I do agree I'd love to see this plastic ball tournament come back as a title event.

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 4 года назад

      Why did they stop? Anyone want to speculate?

  • @BlkglasTheVette
    @BlkglasTheVette 2 года назад +17

    R.I.P. Mark. The bowling would will never be the same.

  • @davidrogers0717
    @davidrogers0717 2 года назад +6

    So glad the PBA did this unique tournament to honor Mark while he was still with us.

  • @leebertie57
    @leebertie57 4 года назад +20

    wow....Brian Ziesig beating the 2 greatest bowlers of our time to win his first title. Nerves of steel this guy has.

    • @foxwolf316
      @foxwolf316 2 года назад +1

      defeating a legend passed his prime barley, against a future star that's already at his prime, that's never been done before, or maybe it has been done before, but not an amateur bowler doing that, especially an amateur In his mid 30s, taking on 2 guys that are middle middle, with 1 guy already to his 50s, and one to his mid 20s, like that's crazy to do that, It's like the good bad and the ugly In a way, crazy even the way how it ended, like no way that can happen again, that's a million to 1 chance that will ever happen again, no way It can ever be done again.

  • @dreman1970
    @dreman1970 4 года назад +7

    This really warmed my heart....not only because it was the local guy....but nostalgia....i grew up in babylon 5 min away from babylon bowl....bowled in the same league for 12 years in that very center....and i knew about half the people sitting in the crowd....what a moment....and oh yeah..to beat the greatest bowler ever and the greatest bowler at the time to win....priceless....

  • @Hatsunex3
    @Hatsunex3 5 лет назад +12

    bring back the plastic ball championship! most dramatic match that i have watched on pba

  • @lylebarnard7447
    @lylebarnard7447 4 года назад +11

    This was extremely fun to watch

  • @TheeYoungJohnnyDepp
    @TheeYoungJohnnyDepp 4 года назад +22

    This needs to be brought back. Such a good event. Just a fun time and fun to watch!

    • @bobby_c7671
      @bobby_c7671 2 года назад

      Too bad most of the bowlers today consider it a gimmick tournament and wont compete in it. The lower scores might hurt thier fragile egos.

  • @louiscsanko3673
    @louiscsanko3673 4 года назад +7

    ONE OF THE GREATEST TV FINALS MATCH IN MEMORY [ CONGRATS TO MR. ZEISIG ] GREAT MATCH, BOTH BOWLERS DESERVE A HUGE STANDING OVATION 👍👍👍

  • @someguy2135
    @someguy2135 4 года назад +5

    There were so many great story lines in this event. The legend who survived a stroke with the help of his wife.
    Spoilers below.
    The bowler with two bad knees and almost no approach but still advanced with a great score. The all time great pro giving the kids all they could handle. The two handed bowler revolutionizing the sport early in his career.
    And the home town favorite who left the PBA to finally get his first win as an amateur. If this was a movie, we wouldn't believe it. It reminded me of "Rudy."

  • @nyrambler23
    @nyrambler23 5 лет назад +14

    Rumor has it, the head pin Belmo left in the roll off is still in orbit over Babylon, NY

    • @tobyga1929
      @tobyga1929 5 лет назад +1

      NYRambler bowled in Babylon the other day and yep that checks out

  • @alexomc1667
    @alexomc1667 4 года назад +12

    Last ball from the roll off and you can’t even see it 😂

    • @someguy2135
      @someguy2135 4 года назад +2

      That was the only disappointing thing about watching this.

  • @flipper9038
    @flipper9038 4 года назад +19

    1:13:51 oh how right randy was about 2 handed

  • @jblikesmen
    @jblikesmen 5 лет назад +7

    Ziesig beat the 2 best bowlers of all time back to back. Well deserved

  • @jamesbruzgis9476
    @jamesbruzgis9476 4 года назад +3

    I was there! Long Island baby!

  • @GamingBelladonna229
    @GamingBelladonna229 2 дня назад

    Ziesig’s daughter in the crowd is so cute when she’s rooting for her dad 😊

  • @jedziegler1538
    @jedziegler1538 2 года назад +2

    Watching the tournament named after him in honor of Mark Roth today RIP

  • @michaelkowalske1127
    @michaelkowalske1127 4 года назад +4

    I love using plastic balls I recently rolled my first sanctioned 300 with a purple tint clear rose plastic ball

  • @tonyr8443
    @tonyr8443 4 года назад +19

    Real test in bowling skills, plastic ball bowling

    • @NateCraven318
      @NateCraven318 4 года назад +1

      I can hook a house ball pretty well, I just need to really roll off the side and lower the ball speed.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 2 года назад

      How? It strikes a ton if you're semi accurate and if you miss it's highly likely a single pin spare

  • @louiscsanko3673
    @louiscsanko3673 4 года назад +4

    MARK ROTH=LEGEND

  • @lukusbequiet117
    @lukusbequiet117 6 месяцев назад

    Amazing, His son Kyle is in my Junior league. Brian is extremely nice and very good.

  • @jacobkaplan2798
    @jacobkaplan2798 2 года назад +1

    Boy belmo use to be a POWER player now in his older days he uses a lot more finesse and slower speeds. Crazy to see 22 mph 600+ revs in his younger days.

    • @iconredesign
      @iconredesign Год назад

      He still does hat from time to time. Early on like you see here, he’s basically throwing a Norm Duke frozen rope and piping it at the 1-3 with twice the revs, but by circling the lane, he’s getting better entry angles for just the few extra pins that rocketed his career to outer space.

  • @p00hski
    @p00hski 10 месяцев назад

    BRING THIS BACK…the true test of a bowler

  • @iamwhatiam6075
    @iamwhatiam6075 4 года назад +1

    Love these. Need a golf tourney with the same clubs and tennis tourney with same racquets. Even if exhibition so they don't screw up their rankings. Be fun to watch and a true test of talent.

  • @hunt4gs
    @hunt4gs 2 года назад +1

    RIP Mark.

  • @miiigoreng
    @miiigoreng Год назад

    Impressive to watch plastic balls rolled at high levels, not just for spares

  • @krisherdown
    @krisherdown 3 года назад +1

    Nerves of steel. Got lucky at the end of his first match but stepped up at the very end.

  • @chriskelly509
    @chriskelly509 3 года назад +1

    Need more plastic ball tournaments

  • @AlBundy16
    @AlBundy16 2 года назад +4

    I watched for 1:32:32, to watch some guy stand up and miss the clutch winning strike!!

  • @SS--CAL
    @SS--CAL 4 года назад +1

    Great bowling.

  • @skiprockjr.6881
    @skiprockjr.6881 Год назад

    Being an amateur and beating Walter Ray Williams, Jr., and Jason Belmonte to win a title is Buster Douglas beating Mike Tyson territory.

  • @joejohn6987
    @joejohn6987 2 года назад

    R.I.P. Mark Roth

  • @mpup54
    @mpup54 4 года назад +3

    The PBA has ruined its image since then. Straight stepladder finals, nothing fancy. 4 games, title.

  • @SweetTeeBag
    @SweetTeeBag Год назад

    I have to say I just noticed this at 20:45. Machuga had sponsorship from both Storm and Brunswick on his jersey? Isn't that a conflict of interest?

  • @rexiiforsure9558
    @rexiiforsure9558 4 года назад +1

    👍 Mark Roth

  • @sportsfntc
    @sportsfntc 2 года назад

    RIP Mark Roth

  • @NathanThePrezPretlow
    @NathanThePrezPretlow 2 года назад

    Why they Local tv channels don't show bowling any more like in the 70s and 80s?

  • @iOSandroid1
    @iOSandroid1 5 лет назад +1

    Can someone explain about Storm and Brunswick logo on Mike Machuga’s tee?

    • @iconredesign
      @iconredesign 5 лет назад

      Sorawith He’s a free agent at the time I believe

  • @Krranski
    @Krranski 4 года назад +3

    These shots seem to have a lot of hook on them with not even necessarily huge rev rate players (with obvious exceptions). Were they allowed to add grit to their balls? Seems like it would defeat the purpose if so, but would also be hard to enforce.

    • @jibbernuts
      @jibbernuts 4 года назад +3

      Matthew only half the normal oil volume was used and on a 43 foot pattern, the mids will break down pretty fast. Plastic will carry the oil from the mids to the back so the balls will begin hooking earlier as the day goes on. They can add grit if they want but playing that deep inside, it wouldn't help

    • @Krranski
      @Krranski 4 года назад

      @@jibbernuts Fair point, now that you mention the mids being dry and the carrydown, I recall this happening from my days in collegiate bowling when a few teams we played against intentionally did this to lower the scoring pace and confuse/frustrate the opposing teams following them on that pair. They still played a pretty direct line to the pocket, not daring to angle away from the headpin much, if at all. But still, it seemed like we started seeing the mids hook from the first few shots in the telecast, on what I assume was a a fresh application.

  • @chandlerb6728
    @chandlerb6728 4 года назад +2

    1:31:50 Stone 7 pin

  • @Bruh-qr9sy
    @Bruh-qr9sy 4 года назад +4

    We need a new camera man lmao

    • @suburbanhomejustin
      @suburbanhomejustin 4 года назад +1

      Lol fr some of the angles in the 2000s were horrible. Watch some of Danny Wiseman's shots, hes basically blocking the camera LOL

  • @thomasmccarrick4169
    @thomasmccarrick4169 2 года назад

    I feel like with the resurrection of urethane, we need a reactive reason championship

  • @williamzander4732
    @williamzander4732 3 года назад

    That two handed toss is weird but it works .Dont drill out the thumb tournament will be next .

  • @inteRUSSting
    @inteRUSSting 5 лет назад

    Garber's approach; If Lerch was on the PBA tour. 11:32

    • @terminat1
      @terminat1 4 года назад

      Lurch.

    • @seanhawkins6727
      @seanhawkins6727 3 года назад +1

      It's awful to watch

    • @bobby_c7671
      @bobby_c7671 2 года назад

      I think its amazing. Im pretty sure hes had major back surgery and 2 knee replacements. Good for him!!!

  • @brandonwilliams5563
    @brandonwilliams5563 9 месяцев назад

    William's revenge on garber!

  • @bobcarty1433
    @bobcarty1433 Год назад

    I would rather have the time of plastic and rubber. A 300 was a big deal because it didn't happen very often. When reactive balls came out it made a lot of bowlers better then they actually were. Now a 800 series brings a yawn because so many are throwing them.

  • @railroad9929
    @railroad9929 Год назад

    Biggest shot of the tournament, and all we see is the back of somebody's head.

  • @pamelacass9642
    @pamelacass9642 4 года назад

    No sound the last game. ;-(

  • @andrewphillips2179
    @andrewphillips2179 5 лет назад +1

    Walter Ray Williams Jr and Wayne Garber have bowled some excellent matches

  • @pamelacass9642
    @pamelacass9642 4 года назад +1

    It's a good little tournament. Leave Mallot out of it, since he whined so much.

  • @andrewphillips2179
    @andrewphillips2179 5 лет назад +1

    there were some exciting finishes in the 1st, semi final, and title matches in the Geico Mark Roth Plastic Ball Championship

  • @bobby_c7671
    @bobby_c7671 2 года назад

    I heard that Machuga was one of the most arrogant guys on the circuit. Can anyone confirm or deny it? Just curious....

    • @Greg780
      @Greg780 2 месяца назад

      I don’t know. I heard that he was one of the most vocal in condemning two-handed bowling as not being real bowling when Belmonte and Palermaa first came out on tour. Maybe it’s just rumors.

  • @linda1lee2
    @linda1lee2 4 года назад

    See amazing flop at 15:30.

    • @douglasharris5216
      @douglasharris5216 4 года назад

      Linda Lee ?

    • @linda1lee2
      @linda1lee2 4 года назад

      ​@@douglasharris5216 The first showing of this deliberate flop actually started at 15:45.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 2 года назад

      @@linda1lee2 it was shown in the telecast that it actually happened on...

  • @deborahnewman3390
    @deborahnewman3390 2 года назад

    schematic

  • @guitarzan5328
    @guitarzan5328 4 года назад +1

    Garber has the worst pre-shot routine and approach I have ever seen. How many steps did he take, eleven?? That's more than twice the standard, almost triple! But I guess if it works for him... 🤷

    • @bowl4u
      @bowl4u 4 года назад +2

      I think they said he had a double knee replacement,,,,

  • @mr.c1563
    @mr.c1563 4 года назад +3

    Bowling used to be challenging. Now kids in junior league are throwing 300. That was almost unheard of back in the days of real wooden lanes and rubber balls. Technology once again ruining sports.

    • @Ct-ml2ug
      @Ct-ml2ug 4 года назад +3

      Mr. C Technology getting better, and higher scores being bowled is ruining the sport? Cmon man accept change

    • @mutated__donkey5840
      @mutated__donkey5840 4 года назад +1

      Someone’s salty that they’re bad at bowling with new technology

    • @Joeyd123abc2
      @Joeyd123abc2 4 года назад +4

      ok boomer

    • @jhamlin726
      @jhamlin726 4 года назад +3

      Go cry elsewhere.

    • @jakesnussbuster3565
      @jakesnussbuster3565 2 года назад +1

      Boomer alert

  • @ronaldleehorton5822
    @ronaldleehorton5822 3 года назад

    This is shit . It's about hand and speed!

  • @SteelcityinNY
    @SteelcityinNY 2 года назад +1

    Have to comment. This was a great job by a first time TV finals bowler! Beating not only Belmonte, but arguably one of the best bowlers to have rolled a ball...Walter Ray Williams!! Now, to those that saw the match between Belmo and crybaby...um, er...Pete Weber...if this were Pete Weber instead of Belmo, he'd be crying foul! Belmo? Class act...applauded his opponent numerous times. Had to make this point. Nice job, Brian! Classy move, Belmo.

    • @jhamlin726
      @jhamlin726 2 года назад +1

      WRW "arguably" one of the best? No argument necessary.