Resolve is better with handling multiple GPUs. I was shocked at how well it scaled. Even if you mixed nvidia and Radeon GPUs or different tiers of cards it could still use them all.
FYI: RAW needs to be debayered by the CPU / GPU. So the size of 12K BRAW would be smaller than the data needed to occupy ram to process the debayering.
I think it's Adobe Premiere and all Adobe Software, they are not well optimized at using GPU's or modern hardware, it could be lazy programmers using "easy code" for faster delivery but with lots of performance bottlenecks, bugs and stability problems like crashes. You will get much better performance with Davinci Resolve Studio with the same hardware, besides they are very good optimized for Nvidia GPU's and AMD GPU's aswell, it's a faster workflow, when you scroll the timeline is like a hot knife cutting butter, you will notice that super smooth GPU performance and faster rendering times, that's why Davinci Resolve is becoming the most used software in Hollywood for Post-Production.
I feel like this system would almost be better off running a hyper visor and having 2 VMs each with a dedicated GPU. But if it’s being used for cad, maya, etc NVLink is probably better as a single system.
Was searching for TR benchmarks and came across your video, thanks. Planning a 7960X rig rebuild that's somewhat comparable to this rig. On CPUBenchmark at least it shows the overall performance is neck and neck due to Zen4 improvements and Single Core is much higher now. Obviously these CPUs still lack dedicated codec accelerations (Intel aside) but AVX512 might help accelerate some of these newer tasks a lot. I mean the fact aside is we all know Adobe software in general is crap with multithreading and optimization. Would have to try some of these tests once I can finish my build as well as test in Davinci.
This is great sir. But 12 gen CPU is not taking much ram. How these systems taking alot more. What have you done? More videos on timeline or something else
What hardware do you suggest to build a 4X3080Ti rig for 3d rendering? I own some 4xGTXs workstations but in the past it was possible to build them because there were a lot of GTX "turbo" versions.
Any suggestions on a PC or MAC for Color Grading 6k videos in DaVinci Resolve, trying to stay under 3k 😳? It doesn't have to be the latest, but something to use strictly for, color grading 6k at least. Thanks?
man i wonder how gh5 and lumix h.264 /265 would fare on this beast, i HATE getting editing projects with their footage. dont know why a7siii and canon 4k files are so manageable without proxies on my very average 1660 super editing pc.
Love to see that i own intel entry level i5 12600k and it is better than this in many case and we can edit all the footages of the world without any hack or proxies or prerender. Yes we can do all the footages of almost all the cameras in 12600k. I am very very happy to see it. Waiting for rtx 4070 to buy for my PC. Lets see how many good encoder and decoder nvidia put in their next gen 40 series cards. PC are already better in 3d works bhender Autodesk 3dsmax etc so no doubt about that and also good in gaming
Hey Tech notice! I have been following you since months and your content is top notch! I needed your help, i am running a i7 12700k with the rtx 3080 and 32 gb of single stick memory of 3600mhz and in premiere pro pugetbenchmark I am getting an overall score of 812. I don't know what i am doing wrong, would be a great help if you can give some suggestions.
1. Single stick of RAM is an issue, since it can't use Dual Channel feature of the Motherboard. 2. Make sure your iGPU is turned on and you have the latest Intel Graphics drivers. 3. Make sure your BIOS, Windows and other drivers are all up to date. Hope this helps... You should be easily getting over 1000 points.
@@theTechNotice thank you so much, so do you think single stick is the bottleneck in my system? I am running the benchmark from a SSD that contains the Os and premiere pro both since i only have one 1 tb ssd installed with read write speeds of 1500mb/s. Can that be the reason? The igpu is also on, i have been tearing my hair the entire day because of it. Also, will just having one stick of 32gigs of ram have such a detrimental effect on the score.
@@adimusick 1. Could the gpu be underclocked or undervolted? 2. Make sure you have sufficient cooling as it may be thermal throttling 3. make sure to upgrade to 2 sticks even if its just 2 sticks of 8gb its better then one stick of 32. 4. DO NOT MIX DIFFERENT BRANDS OF RAM USE THE EXACT SAME KIND.
@@iSuckAtTracking Thanks for the amazing inputs. I ran the test again and I am getting a score of 954 now with gpu export and effect scores in their 70s and the live playback score around 140. I checked my gpu settings and its not overclocked or undervolted. What should be my plan of action to get better benchmarks and performance? The cpu and gpu arent going above 70 degrees when the benchmark is running.
Beastly overview of the AMD big boy! Could we perhaps get a shoot out of h265/264 playback/export for 5900x vs 12700 tier products? The difference between gpu/cpu usage based on encoders is fascinating. Is it time for Ryzen content creators to migrate if they want smooth 4k h265 timelines? I'd rather keep my old x370 board if the difference isn't great enough!
its shameful to see such a beefed up setup still struggle with 4k and 8k single track video in a timeline, and truly this isnt a too realistic editing scenario because from the time u add up more footages into the time line, the performance will be even worse, imagine editing a music video with more than 50 8k shots, it wouldnt be worth it. then adding effects, would make the timeline unplayable. and im not talking about effects optimized by premiere pro, but rather thirdparty plugins like magic bullet suits colorista or even Unsharp masks. i do not understand how an Ipad is able to playback and Edit 8k and 4k footages but a 20,000 dollar computer struggles to do that. i am tempted to believe these tech companies are just playing with peoples sentiments and money. also why does keep stressing its users with hard to decode codecs like those on the R5 when they can clearly use easier to decode codecs and still retain the image quality ?
computers have a lot more overhead then ipads, not to mention ipads cant handle 8k well at all, in fact no ipad display is even 8k (atleast im 99% sure of this, i might be wrong but i highly doubt it), so therefore your 8k argument is sort of irrelevant because its difficult to even get something like that onto an ipad in the first place (you probably can but it would require file transferring from a pc/mac), the reason ipads can handle 4k "better" (they dont really handle it better they just use clever trickery) is probably down to different video codecs, they probably also only render it in the time line at half of the actual video resolution. i have a pc about 1/4 the power of the pc shown in this video and at rendering half resolution in the timeline with 4k footage it runs basically perfectly even with lots of effects on top of it. pc's of this ability also have a lot of wasted performance because of how overkill it is, the extra thread worker load can cause some pretty big slow down if not being used up.
I would say this is why the state of the art continues to improve: data continues to get bigger and requires more processing so we get to have more and faster cores, faster DDR5* memory, faster (2x) PCIe 5 lanes, faster and more capacity NVMe drives, faster graphics cards (Nvidia 4000-series, rDNA 3), etc. *DDR6 is already spec'd
@@theTechNotice actually we can actually have it all but for the fact that they want to make money. So they make it difficult for us to run what I can swear is simple codecs that should be able to run smoothly on 20000$ hardware.
I have a recurring problem that often happens to me in the name of "nvlddmkm.sys", seen in the event viewer, to summarize my screen freezes, the mouse doesn't move anymore, the screen goes black after a few seconds and then it comes back. Second problem, I often have Kernel-Power ID 41 errors. I did a lot of stress tests like Heaven Benchmark, OCCT (to test the power supply) and I have 0 crashes during these tests. I have crashes sometimes at the startup of my pc like 5sec after the startup and sometimes it restarts randomly like this and it's not blue screens, it's a clean restart of the pc. Does anyone have a solution or someone who has already had this kind of problem?
Not really amazed, getting same performance at 4K footage (highest quality codec, canon R5c) with 9900KS, RTX2080ti and 64GB 3200. Super smooth playback at full. Not when adding plenty of effects though. Then it struggles. 8K RAW 60p somehow does work OK as well.. but encoding takes ages, unbearably long and CPU burns to death 98 degrees...
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finally, a pc that can run minecraft at 60 fps
threadrippers aren't meant for gaming. An i5 will blow their single core out of the water.
My threadripper pro build is almost complete only the monitor to get. Premier Pro isn't coded very well Davinci Resolve is far better
Resolve is better with handling multiple GPUs. I was shocked at how well it scaled. Even if you mixed nvidia and Radeon GPUs or different tiers of cards it could still use them all.
I have been looking forward to the video 🎞 thanks!
FYI: RAW needs to be debayered by the CPU / GPU. So the size of 12K BRAW would be smaller than the data needed to occupy ram to process the debayering.
if frames are being lost with a 64 core processor the problem is in the software, either the OS, or the application. I betting it's the OS.
I think it's Adobe Premiere and all Adobe Software, they are not well optimized at using GPU's or modern hardware, it could be lazy programmers using "easy code" for faster delivery but with lots of performance bottlenecks, bugs and stability problems like crashes. You will get much better performance with Davinci Resolve Studio with the same hardware, besides they are very good optimized for Nvidia GPU's and AMD GPU's aswell, it's a faster workflow, when you scroll the timeline is like a hot knife cutting butter, you will notice that super smooth GPU performance and faster rendering times, that's why Davinci Resolve is becoming the most used software in Hollywood for Post-Production.
I feel like this system would almost be better off running a hyper visor and having 2 VMs each with a dedicated GPU.
But if it’s being used for cad, maya, etc NVLink is probably better as a single system.
NOTIFICATION SQUAD! Lets go!
Yeah man! 👊
How well does this handle preview rendering in after effects?
Not bad :)
Was searching for TR benchmarks and came across your video, thanks. Planning a 7960X rig rebuild that's somewhat comparable to this rig. On CPUBenchmark at least it shows the overall performance is neck and neck due to Zen4 improvements and Single Core is much higher now. Obviously these CPUs still lack dedicated codec accelerations (Intel aside) but AVX512 might help accelerate some of these newer tasks a lot.
I mean the fact aside is we all know Adobe software in general is crap with multithreading and optimization. Would have to try some of these tests once I can finish my build as well as test in Davinci.
This is great sir. But 12 gen CPU is not taking much ram. How these systems taking alot more. What have you done? More videos on timeline or something else
12k braw will play smooth as butter in resolve
Thanks for saying the words i want to confirm
I would love this set up for Blender
That's what it's built for ;)
Can you please show us how set up bios on these motherboard
What hardware do you suggest to build a 4X3080Ti rig for 3d rendering? I own some 4xGTXs workstations but in the past it was possible to build them because there were a lot of GTX "turbo" versions.
Did my boy contact you for the pc or the other way around?
Great video.
Can you plz say what are you doing all these pc after built it
Sell it , probably
This was sent to the owner, Damien (mentioned in the beginning of the video) :)
i wish he tested on games and se how much fps he gonna get.
Please test this pc on 3D Rendring please
I've been waiting for this video my friend.i have a builder currently building a 32 core with 2 3090ti 🔥📽️
Should just use an A1000 instead of 3090s but still jealous
@@dontforgettologout1394 too much cash.
This would be an amazing machine for 3D/VFX creation/rendering (both CPU and or GPU rendering). Would easily make full use of this hardware
Yep, that's exactly what it's for :)
Sir can you do music benchmark for Intel 12 gen as they are best in single core in the market.
Is m1 ultra better?
no
It's interesting that it's only using half the cores
Tell me warzone low settings 1080p fps please:)
Dope ! 🔥
Yet again another excellent quality video answering so many unanswered questions :))
Can you test with Blender, C4D, Vray… plz 🙏🏻
now you should do: the best pc for Blender
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Any suggestions on a PC or MAC for Color Grading 6k videos in DaVinci Resolve, trying to stay under 3k 😳? It doesn't have to be the latest, but something to use strictly for, color grading 6k at least. Thanks?
man i wonder how gh5 and lumix h.264 /265 would fare on this beast, i HATE getting editing projects with their footage. dont know why a7siii and canon 4k files are so manageable without proxies on my very average 1660 super editing pc.
"Yes mom it's the only pc that runs online class"
Love to see that i own intel entry level i5 12600k and it is better than this in many case and we can edit all the footages of the world without any hack or proxies or prerender. Yes we can do all the footages of almost all the cameras in 12600k. I am very very happy to see it. Waiting for rtx 4070 to buy for my PC. Lets see how many good encoder and decoder nvidia put in their next gen 40 series cards. PC are already better in 3d works bhender Autodesk 3dsmax etc so no doubt about that and also good in gaming
12 gen is good only upto 4k footage, but above 4k is not good compare to ryzen 5k series.
Depends on a codec but somewhat true. 👍 @arian
what a power❤️🇵🇭
When are you having a garage sale 😂, I need some equipment? 🤣
Hey Tech notice! I have been following you since months and your content is top notch! I needed your help, i am running a i7 12700k with the rtx 3080 and 32 gb of single stick memory of 3600mhz and in premiere pro pugetbenchmark I am getting an overall score of 812. I don't know what i am doing wrong, would be a great help if you can give some suggestions.
1. Single stick of RAM is an issue, since it can't use Dual Channel feature of the Motherboard.
2. Make sure your iGPU is turned on and you have the latest Intel Graphics drivers.
3. Make sure your BIOS, Windows and other drivers are all up to date.
Hope this helps...
You should be easily getting over 1000 points.
@@theTechNotice thank you so much, so do you think single stick is the bottleneck in my system? I am running the benchmark from a SSD that contains the Os and premiere pro both since i only have one 1 tb ssd installed with read write speeds of 1500mb/s. Can that be the reason? The igpu is also on, i have been tearing my hair the entire day because of it. Also, will just having one stick of 32gigs of ram have such a detrimental effect on the score.
@@theTechNotice i am getting a GPU score of 64 which i feel is pretty low for 3080. What else could i be doing wrong here?
@@adimusick 1. Could the gpu be underclocked or undervolted?
2. Make sure you have sufficient cooling as it may be thermal throttling
3. make sure to upgrade to 2 sticks even if its just 2 sticks of 8gb its better then one stick of 32.
4. DO NOT MIX DIFFERENT BRANDS OF RAM USE THE EXACT SAME KIND.
@@iSuckAtTracking Thanks for the amazing inputs. I ran the test again and I am getting a score of 954 now with gpu export and effect scores in their 70s and the live playback score around 140. I checked my gpu settings and its not overclocked or undervolted. What should be my plan of action to get better benchmarks and performance? The cpu and gpu arent going above 70 degrees when the benchmark is running.
Beastly overview of the AMD big boy!
Could we perhaps get a shoot out of h265/264 playback/export for 5900x vs 12700 tier products? The difference between gpu/cpu usage based on encoders is fascinating. Is it time for Ryzen content creators to migrate if they want smooth 4k h265 timelines? I'd rather keep my old x370 board if the difference isn't great enough!
Nevermind, you've already made that video. What a boss! 🙂🙂🙂
pls make gaming video on it
Useless
Damn the memory really bottlenecked everything here
can you send me some of your PCs?
Can you give me the mini pc please
every frickin' video...
my fx6300 lag on youtube ahah
Can it run among us ?🤨
I can't even afford one 3090 and still watching 🙋🏻♂️💀
I have Mx330 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
High end pc with a potato cooling system..so sad😑
try it in davinci, premier sucks actually
Done, have a look at few videos ago. :)
I think this system is bad in video editing
not bad but purely overkill. this system is built for heavy 3d rendering. the owner is basically a movie maker
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its shameful to see such a beefed up setup still struggle with 4k and 8k single track video in a timeline, and truly this isnt a too realistic editing scenario because from the time u add up more footages into the time line, the performance will be even worse, imagine editing a music video with more than 50 8k shots, it wouldnt be worth it. then adding effects, would make the timeline unplayable. and im not talking about effects optimized by premiere pro, but rather thirdparty plugins like magic bullet suits colorista or even Unsharp masks.
i do not understand how an Ipad is able to playback and Edit 8k and 4k footages but a 20,000 dollar computer struggles to do that. i am tempted to believe these tech companies are just playing with peoples sentiments and money. also why does keep stressing its users with hard to decode codecs like those on the R5 when they can clearly use easier to decode codecs and still retain the image quality ?
Agree some $3000 setup not able to play h.265 10bit of r5 but it is buttery smooth with a7siii codec h.265
computers have a lot more overhead then ipads, not to mention ipads cant handle 8k well at all, in fact no ipad display is even 8k (atleast im 99% sure of this, i might be wrong but i highly doubt it), so therefore your 8k argument is sort of irrelevant because its difficult to even get something like that onto an ipad in the first place (you probably can but it would require file transferring from a pc/mac), the reason ipads can handle 4k "better" (they dont really handle it better they just use clever trickery) is probably down to different video codecs, they probably also only render it in the time line at half of the actual video resolution. i have a pc about 1/4 the power of the pc shown in this video and at rendering half resolution in the timeline with 4k footage it runs basically perfectly even with lots of effects on top of it. pc's of this ability also have a lot of wasted performance because of how overkill it is, the extra thread worker load can cause some pretty big slow down if not being used up.
I would say this is why the state of the art continues to improve: data continues to get bigger and requires more processing so we get to have more and faster cores, faster DDR5* memory, faster (2x) PCIe 5 lanes, faster and more capacity NVMe drives, faster graphics cards (Nvidia 4000-series, rDNA 3), etc.
*DDR6 is already spec'd
Well, each machine is built for it's own purpose. This for 3d Rendering. Each codec has its benefits and draw backs, can't have it all 🙂
@@theTechNotice actually we can actually have it all but for the fact that they want to make money. So they make it difficult for us to run what I can swear is simple codecs that should be able to run smoothly on 20000$ hardware.
1000000000000000000000 cores 10000000000000000 vats
I have a recurring problem that often happens to me in the name of "nvlddmkm.sys", seen in the event viewer, to summarize my screen freezes, the mouse doesn't move anymore, the screen goes black after a few seconds and then it comes back. Second problem, I often have Kernel-Power ID 41 errors. I did a lot of stress tests like Heaven Benchmark, OCCT (to test the power supply) and I have 0 crashes during these tests. I have crashes sometimes at the startup of my pc like 5sec after the startup and sometimes it restarts randomly like this and it's not blue screens, it's a clean restart of the pc. Does anyone have a solution or someone who has already had this kind of problem?
Not really amazed, getting same performance at 4K footage (highest quality codec, canon R5c) with 9900KS, RTX2080ti and 64GB 3200. Super smooth playback at full. Not when adding plenty of effects though. Then it struggles. 8K RAW 60p somehow does work OK as well.. but encoding takes ages, unbearably long and CPU burns to death 98 degrees...
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