Ep 5 - The Chip Carved Zebrano Descendant Top and How to use the new High Build Guitar Finishing Oil
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- Welcome to Crimson Guitars ruclips.net/user/CrimsonC... and welcome to episode 5 of Ben's experimentation with a Zebrano topped Descendant guitar.
In this episode, Ben is using the new High Build Guitar Finishing Oil along with the classic Penetrating oil to bring this Zebrano guitar to a gorgeous glossy finish.
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
2:28 Preparing to apply the oils
3:00 Penetrating Oil, secret sauce, 1200 grit paper, more oil, rub across grain ......
9:26 Rub off excess and leave to cure
10:47 Finish has cured. Ben continues to apply oil, and rub off excess
13:54 Curing again
14:03 Moving on - High Build Finishing Oil and Secret Sauce, 1500/2000 grit paper
21:45 Cured. Now to rub down.
25:02 A Few days later.
26:00 Conclusion
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Thanks for doing another longer video Ben. I like when you can take time to delve into your subject without the video feeling rushed. Cheers!
This is artistry at it's finest! Congratulations!
Really like how the oil brought down the cut patters, making it more subtle and calm with the rest of the body. There's certainly lot of potential to resin based designs for "dull" wood patterns.
You truly make some of the most creative and beautiful guitars I’ve ever seen. I hope someday I can afford to buy one!
wow that looks 10x better after sanding. I was hesitant last time you showed the guitar.
I'm in love with that offset, Tele-style body.
"I love my life so much!" . RESPECT!!!!
So, not an utter failure Ben- A crashing success . Look fab.
Considering the cloudy problem, this gem turned out fantastic!
I've never tried that pasta trick before, right after you said that, I was thinking: "I - is the powder...Sss - Semolinaa?!?" I really liked the flow of the video too!
I love the finish with the resin I'm thinking of something similar but using gem stones as well thanks for all the great tips
that 'star' is almost hypnotic, my brain is still confused as to comprehending what it actually is haha
looks so cool though!
I had to come back and watch this again because I’m currently playing with resin(again) and I couldn’t remember if you’d actually saved this guitar or not. Great job!
I have actually seen people use powdered glass for similar applications. Turns into a fine white powder (not for snorting - fair warning) and works well when trying to achieve a very fine finish.
Ben! Sorry I'm a few months late. Really love this one! This piqued my interest in a dual stage stain. Staining the diamond pattern, scraping away the color on the primary body plane, filling with resin, and then staining a new color atop that. Pretty sure it would be insanely blotchy as the resin would grain fill the body surface. Would require LOTS of masking! Anyway, great build as usual!
Oh yes..the bane of every gitar build,,,,,never ending sanding for a great finish to be achieved. and after Iv' clear coated my buitar body head ztock and pick guard ( all are acrylic coated the edges of the body was treated differently than normal where you would normallydo a fade on the edges ive thinned and brushed on wood glue and heavily sprinkles on silver micro glitter and am coating it in a resin all over the body , head stock and the pick guard which is also like the body and head stock been cloth covered and sealed the edges of head stock and body glitter coated then resin coated...flat sanded and clrae coated.and polished like any resin coated guitar the cloth as I'v probably told you before is a nebula print fabric with the micro glitter sparsely sprinkled over alland the excess lightly brushed off till the desired amount remains....I eally need to take pictures to show the true effect....
I would like to see that on the bottle, "not particularly toxic" lol
that top reminds me of my first guitar i got it at a pawn unknown to me until i removed the two prior finishes it had a three piece zebrano body and a red mahogany neck not a bad find for $60 and a rare find considering its lpj shaped and had takamine on the headstock
it glows in the dark!
Brilliant!
Love your vids! Would love to look through the tools behind you! Your videos are my new pastime. Much respect!
I will try and do a tool collection retrospective video one day soon.. I do have a weakness, that is undisputed! B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars Ben what is the powder you added to the oil?
This is great Ben. Would make brilliant telly.I changed the video speed to 1.25 and it rocks along. Well done ben. You are the David Attenborough( with a little sprinkle of Karl Pilkington)Of the guitar world. I think a Drew Pritchard type program could really take off. You clearly love what you do and with all the car shows or antique programs, I really think you have the personality and expertise to pitch something like that to a production company . .....Just my two cents.
one word....AWESOME.......
Glow in the dark powder. Wow, was thinking the whole time it was perhaps baking powder. Would be awesome at gigs. Would love to see some finished pics or Live (thanks buyer! ;)
Great Work, Very Interesting Channel !!!
7:40
First time watching, guessed it - glow in the dark powder.
That white powder looks like the powder that French Polishers use called Pumice you can get it in different grades ,,, :) so we getting what looks like a French polishing Class :)
It’s pumice powder. Pore filler that say Gibson would use is pumice powder, linseed oil, aniline dye and a touch of lacquer to thin it down. He’s essentially making a clear pore filler while working in the oil.
I like the look of the carved out/acrylic but the asymmetrical pattern is driving me crazy! lol Still a beautiful guitar, as Ben always makes.
Beautiful natural wood breathing and still alive .ordered some of you oil stains .we’ll order some of those finishing oils .joy to see wood come alive again .even plain looking wood to can be beautifully stained and coloured .your own sett work .to .sick of boring paint finished guitars.Set them on fire 😅😅😅😅😂oil them 😅😅😅love your videos
Looks almost as. Deep as a nitro finish.
Well done !
Do you think I can use High Build or Penetrating oil on a 0.6mm veneer applied using titebond coldpress glue? Thanks.
I can't seem to find any videos in your channel on neck finishes. Would the Penetrating Guitar Finishing Oil and the High Build Guitar Finishing Oil be good?
i would just pour superglue on and basically get the same finish.....first couple of coats for grain filling and levelling and then starting build up a film....not very fun sanding it down but fast durable and feels great.....
The dried tears of a thousand luthiers?
That's cocaine, isn't it? Don't lie to us, Ben
No.
But, it's typically used with it to make something else.
Glow-in-the-darcaine
I despise telecaster style bodies.....but damn Ben I would buy this one in a second. Looks good!
I still have it, in fact, somehow I haven't gotten around to putting it together!? I really dropped the ball on this one. If you are serious drop us a line and I'll sort you out. B
Help us understand the need for both finishing oils please. Is it to lessen the amount of coats of the original oil to achieve a gloss finish?
a catalyst of some sort which makes the oil dry faster, like Japan Drier.
After the last application of your penetrating oil, for how long would you leave it to cure before it is ready to be assembled?
Hi and sorry for the off the wall question, but I bought your finishing oil (thanks for this video accompaniment) and even though you say you have no skill with a spray can, I'm curious if it's possible to finish the back and sides with oil and paint the front. Any experience with that approach? I have a Skervesen that they say has an acrylic finish (blue maple top, very smooth), but these back and sides of the mahogany body feel like they were finished with oil. Could there be any chemical reaction or destruction of one or both of the finishes if I mixed them like this? If it's OK, in which order should they be applied?
Thanks and keep up the good work! I love the cyberpunk 2077 build you're doing!
Cool video -as always - I was sure the powder was coke when I watched the speedy parts, but then I figured you were more of a Pepsi guy - my guess talcum powder.
Is it possible to dye either the star burst or the remaining portion of the guitar body with a different color without any detriment to the epoxy?
Did you ever do a follow up to this one, Ben? I'd like to see it finished.
Does anyone know how to remove a coating of finishing oil? I want to re-stain the guitartop and then re-apply oil. How far does it penetrate the wood? Can I just sand it or do I need some kind of solvent?
Hey Ben I'm used to polishing my wood quite frequently and on a regular basis, but I typically don't do it in conjunction to the videos, too...distracting?
Very nice! But what if you have stained your guitar? If you rub it with wet and dry sandpaper, you end up damaging the color. (I tried)
Thats why you sanding sealer the stain to put a layer in and lock the colour down
LOL 12:20 I'm actually flame patinating copper sheet as an experiment while watching your videos. Have you given it a whirl, Ben? Particularly as a base for ammonia treatment, I think it could be very useful.
What happened to the final parts you mentioned?
Is it carborundum powder or pumice?
She's looking so beautiful. Geat vid editing too.
No spoons, no straws. My guess is sodium bicarbonate.
Considering what he was doing, that would make sense.
It's typically used to polish epoxy and other plastics.
I would say pumice stone powder personally
I would say pumice stone powder personally
Dude is definitely on something
the joy of getting to do THIS for a living.. my life is awesome! B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars You're making an excellent point here... Thanks for sharing your experience btw
Can one grainfill without secret sauce by just rubbing in the penetrating finishing oil with 1200 paper after staining?
Can this be done on a stained guitar? Any other steps that would need to be done?
I got a question, I never tried applying oil with sandpaper and it looks really promising, but does it work if there's stain on the wood ?
I've done it before, and it works well, if the stain is well dried. The oil will pick up some of the stain from using the sandpaper, but it won't pull color from the wood, if the grit is high enough- anything over 1000 shouldn't alter the color whatsoever.
I like the wood grain. What type of wood are you using?
Sanding a guitar body while watching this... Im gonna nead a sigarett after ;)
Can you apply the penetrating oil to necks and fretboards as well?
Does anyone know how the oil reacts in a high humidity environment, I.e. in Georgia, USA?
are you using pumice stone powder just like for "french polishing" ?
Pumice, Rottenstone, or Tripoli? Some type of powdered stone material is my guess.
What do you use on your fretboards to hydrate them?
Hey Ben..over here across the pond in the U.S.A. what you are calling tissue we call paper towels and there are differend grades here some are softer and some not so soft and a bit more abrasive but all are fairly inexpensive and are in almost every kitchen in the U.S, since the 1970's,,,
In the UK we call it paper towel or kitchen roll . Ben is calling it tissue usually used for blowing your nose .
although its already been commented, I also think it is powdered pumice.
Will you please reveal the nature of your magic powder!
Baking Soda, has been a bench joiners trick with oil for many a year! its also stains well and is a great transparent fillerAlso cheap, which is why ben is throwing it around like a lottery winner in a brothel
Any chance you might put a link to the last two parts please?
There’s no 6th video. 😭
Per-build playlists would be awesome. I love going thru the builds, but sometimes videos can be hard to track down. (Links to subsequent videos inside each posts would also be nice but much more work, I suspect.)
Looks like the perfect product for me! I'm a bit confused though. I don't understand the differences between some of th Crimson guitar finishing oils. What are the diferences between high build and penetrating and why would I not just use penetrating?
If I want to achieve a farily high gloss finish to a stained guitar that has a grain filled back with a maple top with no grain filler, which Crimson oil finish is the best product for the job.
Cheers!
Some woods absorb alot of oil and need to have all the pores filled in to get a flat surface finish. Some woods actually reject finish.
Pure fine Alum powder - Similar material as aluminum silicate "sand paper".
Good call.. but it was glow in the dark powder.. it worked, albeit with subtlety.. thanks for watching! B
Doesn't the dust from the sanding stick to the oil on the guitar??
That's how you can tell if your old lady is cheating on you take a pair of her bloomers and throw them at the wall see if they stick. Happy New Year and God bless you and your family!! Jimmy in NC....
I'm wondering. Will the natural tone of this guitar be as bright as the diamond "Sun rays" around the pick up infer? lol
Ben : "... I'm finishing the finish."
Does that make it the end of the end? Hmmm.. still needs all the hardware. Maybe the end of the middle, or the beginning of the end. Lol
Talcum powder? Johnsons baby Powder for preference as its gentle on the skin. 😎
And gives babies cancer, they say.
That pattern on the guitar always reminds me of migraine visuals.
Ok I'm going to guess, is it talc? Either that or ground pumice stone. I know both are used in finish preparation as they dry clear.
Since a big fuss wasn't made at the end of the video, am I to take it that you weren't pleased with your "secret sauce"? Was it powdered glass? It seemed to work out lovely, whatever it was, so I don't know why you didn't divulge the secret at the end...
Hey, I was planning on a third video and other projects took over.. so, the secret.. glow in the dark powder. Was both grain filler and interesting. It did work though not as strikingly as I had hoped. B
Is that pumice you're using there? Like you do with preparing for shellac finishes?
Pumice is what gave me the idea but no.. it is glow in the dark powder! B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars I was thinking it was diatomaceous earth. I stand corrected.
Mother of pearl powder (AKA secret sauce)
Yorkshire grit, minus the paste?
So what was the powder?
I'm rethinking this and if it was pumice it wouldn't be left on/in the finish, he'd want to wipe it down completely
This schtick of yours make me feel anxious..I wish you'd relax. And it's pumice powder, I've been using it for years.
I have done a guitar build kit, I need you to fine tune it for me! the neck is straight but it buzzes on the low E, A, D up to the 4/5 frets.
Bit late commenting, but if the neck is straight and you have fret buzz. Then you probably need a fret dressing, as it sounds as if your frets aren't level.
I would guess, the powder is methylmetacryl polymer. those microscopic spheres get trapped in the hardened oil, fill the pores and have polishing properties like super glue (is also methacryl)
Looks like MicroBalloons. I use it when making fishing lures
Is that powder what's known as English whiting - fr. polishers use it? Talc is used to give lacquers & paints a more satin finish. Warning - it has been on tv news here in Aus just this week that a maker of popular baby powder has known for years that it is contaminated with asbestos - which the makers naturally deny.
My experience with a couple of oils - linseed oil goes black with age & pure tung oil gets sticky during warm months in hot climates - even 10 yrs after application.
I am seeking a good oil for natural looking finish which is suitable for the Queensland climate.
I will soon cut up a Qlnd slab table I made about 10 yrs ago. Should get more than 15 x 1 piece neck/body guitars from it - several with natural edge. Should get a reasonable return on the $1000 it cost me for the 2 slabs. 3.3 mtrs x .900+ x 50mm thick.
Also looking forward to using the Cuban Mahog, Braz. Mahog, Andaman Padouk , Braz. Rosewood & more which I have been carting around for the last 30 years - without touching it.
Also seeking good quality volume pots. Recently either used or tested new over 1 doz. CTS(crappy tone system?) pots from premium kits but those used for vol in past 3 months are scratchy already & none give any response until nearly 2 on the dial (0-10 range) - then sound cuts in suddenly(no fade) & scratchily.
Had to return a Bigsby last month due to crack in casting - entire batch the supplier stocked had same fault . It seems made in USA = made in China for quality these days.
cheers from Kiwi downunder
check out sutherland wells polymerized tung oil ; I've been using it for years and it may be what you need
Glow un the dark powder ?
Kaolkn clay or pearl powder?
You never did say what the powder was. I was thinking it was some type of pumice, grain filling powder or possibly even baking soda. I'd like to know what the powder actually is. I've been a professional finisher since 1980 started helping my grandfather in 1972 abused probably every kind of coating known to man. If you see this comment please let me know what type of powder that is. God bless and happy New Year Jimmy in NC....
I'm guessing ground up bits of the epoxy
I'm guessing silica or pumice or powdered shallac?
What kind of oil did you used sir?
Glass powder?
i need to know what this powder is. i need my suspicions confirmed. you can not leave me hanging !!!!
Baking soda? I use that and toothpaste on the vans headlights.
Mantap
Glow in the dark powder perhaps?
The jar!! What's in the jar!??(read with the same intensity as What's in the box!?(Seven reference))
Cocaine, it's a rock star finish
That would account for Ben's good mood....