The fretboard conditioning oil showdown - comparing 8 brands
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
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I used Old English Lemon Oil from the grocery store, and it is a similar product to your Parker and Bailey Lemon Oil. I even used it on the finish of a 1941 Gibson L7, and it brought it to life. Use it very finely on the painted surface. People will tell you to never put it on a painted hollow body guitar, but it needed it for the looks, and protection. It was very dry. I also used it on the outer side of the shells of an old set of Sonor drums from 1962 that were stored in a hot attic for 14 years. The red beechwood was about to crack it was so dry. I think I even used it on the inside of the shells to give it some strength. The oil absorbs into the wood, and then sort of dries, and it adds strength to the wood. I restored the old drum kit and it turned out awesome. The shells had a plastic wrap like most drums do, and I put it on that as well, and it just seemed to fix everything. The drum kit sounded amazing. Like "George of the Jungle" drum sound, from cartoons.
Wow, that sounds amazing. I hadn't thought of using the lemon oil on a painted finish, I should give it a try. Thanks for sharing.
I have always used baby oil. They are all mineral oil at their base with different viscosities and some add scents. Baby oil is also mineral oil but is cheaper.
As far as cleaning goes, after putting the oil on, use a soft tooth brush to scrub the frets. I follow that up with a white scotch bright pad and then wipe off. I then reapply a second coat of oil and wipe off any excess.
The white scotch bright and soft tooth brush will not cause any damage to the frets. The white scotch bright also polishes the frets (metal) making them look like new.
Good tip, thanks for sharing it.
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I refinish furniture for fun and was working on a guitar and found the Parker & Bailey online and was wondering because it looked great. You can tell it's more thin and not sticky! Your review proved it! Just ordered some and already cleaned and oiled up the fretboards and neck and it looks gorgeous! Thank you for this!
It's my pleasure. There are a few I like, but that is definitely great value for money and a great product.
I've used Dunlop 65 for a long time and I've never had a problem, they might work differently with different ingredients but in the end it's completely up to what you prefer. hope this advice helps!
I agree really, most do the job well. For some people it may be the smell, for others it might be the cost, or even what is available to them.
An excellent comparison video, thank you. I have used the Kyser
Lemon oil for years although admittedly my fret boards don't get too dirty.
Thanks. Honestly I think most of them do a great job. I probably have multiple lifetime's worth of lemon oil to use up now.
I am building a kit and have decided to use Birchwood Casey Genuine Oil on the new fretboard. This is the satin version of Tru Oil. I have applied it to the back of the neck and like it so much that I will put it on the fretboard as well. Thank you for your video.
Great that you like that oil so much. It will react in a different way to fretboard oils though, leaving a film that hardens on the surface, which isn't necessarily a problem if you like it. People varnish maple so it's not really that different. Thanks for commenting.
Really great review. Thanks so much and I have just subscribed!
Thanks so much, I really appreciate that.
Love this video.... I've ordered the Parker & Bailey because it's thinner and probably sinks in better.... Recently using Monty's instrument food, it's like an oily waxey thing......
I quite like the monty's. Axe Wax do something similar. I think it's good for new fretboards, or really run down ones. I do prefer just a lemon oil though for regular use. Thanks for watching and glad you love it.
@@DevilAndSons Thanks for that comment, that's quite useful
@skaboosh thanks for watching! It's a pleasure.
Very good, it would have been interesting to compare each cloth as per its claims i.e how much dirt it removed.
Now that is a good idea. I'm always amazed by how much dirt does come off.
@@DevilAndSons A lot can come from the frets which is the oxidised film so always good idea to clean the fret and board separately at first to stop transfer.
Good tip
F-one I found just a few weeks ago. I love nomads' product line, same with fret polishing.I used to use plain ol' lemon oil. And dunlop 65 polish and cleaner,( honestly after I checked the MSDS safety data sheets they are the same damn thing) to clean the guitar. Now I use dunlop 65 to clean, F-One for fretboard, and Nomads fast fret string lube. And the smells are awesome!
Nice. I think fast fret is really good.
@@DevilAndSons It seems to be, Tbh I never really tried any of those cleaners for strings, I would always just put a new pair on because strings to me were cheap, but then covid hit hahaha. So now I try to get the most out of them I can because there are more important things to pay for. This pandemic really made me look at my life in a different way as I had time to focus! but indeed, less string squeals and faster slides!
I confused Fast fret with string fuel kit from Music Nomad
@@Grawrrr Interesting how it has made you look at things differently.
@@Grawrrr That makes sense, I think fast fret may be the brand. I've not tried string fuel.
you need to scrub the fingerboard with a pad or steelwool to frmove the finger fudge b4 you oil.
You can also use a fretboard cleaner with a cloth, that often works unless there's lots of grime. I usually do that then condition.
i just bought 2 new guitars (...i know.....:-)...)and both the rosewood fretboards look a bit "dry"....BUT i didn't want may place to smell like artificial roses or lemons or other chemical subsances, i got some "Taylors" fretboard conditioner.....saying its all natural refined oils without perfums....i hope its true....cheers and thx for your video...and i'm glad i didn' buy any of those products.
Thanks for watching. Do let me know how you get on with Taylors.
On fiddles I use white spirit for clean up, isopropyl alcohol for anything that's ridiculously stubborn. Then walnut oil for conditioning on both fingerboard and neck. Put plenty on, leave to soak in overnight, polish off and you have a super slick finish
A few people on Facebook mentioned Walnut oil and isopropyl is also popular. I will give them a go. I use a mix of maths and hydrochloric acid to clean stubborn dirt.
@@DevilAndSons I know it's a typo but I can't resist: 'I use a mix of maths and hydrochloric acid', so, you compute it into a state of cleanliness !!!
lol
That's absolutely it... or maybe it's meths (my phone's predictive didn't like meths).
@@DevilAndSons can't trust those AI's
The Parker and Bailey stuff is available very cheap at discount stores around me. Have been using the Dunlop stuff lately, but will switch to the Parker and Bailey. I wonder how their orange oil would do? Love your videos! God bless and rock on 👍😎🎸
Cheers. Honestly most of them are good but that Parker and Bailey is great value for money and I really liked it too. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Is it ok to use in the fretboard of the guitar?
Absolutely, it's made for wood.
O from Orange amps? I just noticed you were giving credits to the people that suggested the letters, I'm slow on the uptake. I've used Crimson's fretboard and finish cleaner and then Crimson's fretboard restorative (oil).
Now I haven't tried crimson oils yet, I do have their fret rubbers and they are good. Again, you've got the logo. The credits were people who suggested the topics.
outstandingly oleaginous. (my science background showing through)
This my be the first comment someone has left that I had to research to understand, but what a perfect word for this. You've Outdone yourself.
@@DevilAndSons spotted the sneaky capital !
Ive always used the dunlop conditioner. Can't seem to find the Triton stuff anywhere and I wanna try it. any idea where to get it?
I have a feeling you can't get it anymore, I remember looking a few years ago with no luck. I got it via ebay originally. I use axe wax products these days.
I got a new Epiphone Les Paul and the fret board was so dry. I have the kyser Len oil from years ago and I’ve put three coats on it so far and it’s starting to look conditioned again. After one coat it barely looked like it did anything. Also the spray bottle is totally worthless. It leaks more down the side of the bottle than it sprays. I confirm what he saw in this test it’s not good…
Thanks for watching and commenting, useful to know.
Heard baby oil works great too
Interesting. Thanks for commenting.
Baby oil is a mineral oil and will spoil on your fret board over time. Mineral oil are no good for wood so please don't use it on your guitar. Mineral oil are used on swords and knives as they stop corrosion and oxidation.
Great info. Thanks for reading the comments and leaving a response.
is there any oil brands that works on all types of woods
There are definitely some that say they are fine on mahogany and light woods. I'm actually not back in my workshop until Tuesday so will have a look then at what I have and list them here. Otherwise when you are buying they should say on the bottle/online description if they are.
@@DevilAndSons okay thank you
Which lemon oil or condition can you use on all fretboards?
The only one from this video is the Music Nomad F-One oil, at least it's the only one that says suitable for unfinished rosewood, maple and ebony.
Do you have any recommendations for unfinished maple fretboards?
The music nomad f-one oil is definitely fine for unfinished maple (they actually have a video up on youtube using it like that). I can't remember off hand which other ones are fine for unfinished maple, will check later. Honestly I thought they were all pretty good and I like the thickness of the music nomad so you probably can't go wrong with that.
As well as the F-One oil from Music Nomad the rorosound and planet waves don't have warnings about using them on maple, although I haven't tried the three on maple yet.
Does anyone know if dunlop lemon oil can be used on "Oiled ebonized Poplar laminate" fretboards?
I don't see why not. Normally it's just light coloured fretboards that say avoid lemon oil
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Thanks for watching that far.
Very nice video?!
Thanks. It took a while to make so glad you like it.
Total waste of money. I just use human skin oil. No cost with an automatic self regulating application. After 42 years of playing guitar, I never had an issue.
What guitar have you got and how often do you play? I winder if regularly playing does help this. Many fretboards will dry out if unused for a long period, but again it may be that they weren't treated well in the first place.
@@DevilAndSons . One of my guitars is about 15 years old and sometimes I go 3 or 4 months without playing it. No issues. When I was younger, I would play every day, sometimes for hours, but I don't play very often now. I should add that on occasion I would scrape the junk build up off with a sharp edge. I've owned about 10 guitars over the 42 years I've been playing and none had issues with the fretboards and I never once oiled or conditioned them with anything.
You must have magic fingers.
@@DevilAndSons Hi, freboard gets dry if air humidity is low IMHO. Where I live , average humidity is 65% , in 50 years never had a fretboard dry or develope cracks, neither the fretboard nor the body, both acoustic and electric guitars, SG, Les Paul, Stratocaster and telecaster , rowewood and ebony fretboards. In fact , I have to be carefull with rust, Gibson frets (not vintage) tend to develop rust more than Fender. I clean the fretboards but don´t use oil. I use GHS fast fret after every play. Use coated strings. Itś a Life time struggle.
@gerardoromano3436 that's so interesting, I hadn't considered the rust issue woth humidity
Coconut oil, works for me, , appeals to the hippie in me.
That's something to try. I think I actually have some at home, will give it a go. Thanks.
Only works on tropical islands.
Ha. In Italy they make an alcoholic lemon drink, I wonder how good that would be for cleaning?
@@DevilAndSons I think the limoncello is great for drinking before playing the guitar!
@@anthonywallace3830 just don't get it confused with the lemon oil!