Why Hip-Hop Doesn't Respect Anthony Fantano (TheNeedleDrop)
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Today, we take a deep dive into why Anthony Fantano AKA TheNeedleDrop is hated by the hip-hop world.
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The fact one independent youtuber can literally get all these big celebrities and artist mad is so funny. Bro. Its a review.
That youtuberr has a following that will mess your income.
It truly is 😂😂😂
@@mukwesamwanza1511exactly but his fans will always make excuses for him , if he was black people would’ve really hated him 💯
@@joemayers7006 Him not being black has nothing to do with it. He can say what he wants he just has shit opinions and apparently a lot of morons believe the same.
@@joemayers7006Hip hop is black peoples lane. It's their game.
A critic who never makes people mad is probably a shit critic.
true on the other hand a critic that always goes out of his way just to be a contrarian is just looking for engagement
@@nahomkebede5107 hes not a contrarian tho
@@akunakun123yes he is
@@ellamartintsova5615 He has some contrarian takes but alot of the time hes pretty reasonable.
@@ellamartintsova5615 if he is a contrarian he would shit of kendrick to pimp a butterfly or tyler creators music or sht, hes not a contrarian, he have many opinions that is aligned with the popular opinions
We really gonna act like a 7/10 is a bad score?
For fucking Real. 7/10 is still Good/Great. People get their pants in a twist when their favourite album is scored lower than they want it to and then act like someone shit in their cereal
for what is one of the best albums of all time? yeah, it is.
Yeah because Anthony actually uses the 1-10 scale correctly where everything below 5 is bad and everything above it is good. Because for some reason people think 7 is the middle road and not 5
@@someguyy194_2 I got mad when he gave H&V a 7 because I like that album but it’s still a good score so I don’t care too much. Hardstone Psycho getting a is nasty work though
At the end of the day, it’s all just a preference
>gives an artist a high score
> ppl mad
> gives an artist a low score
> ppl mad
Gets engagement from the meat riders and the haters. Probably didn't even plan it.
Some of his controversial takes are baffling. But i can't lie, when i see Gunna sub or Destroy Lonely sub getting pressed that he doesn't give their albums 7s and 8s, when even legitimately great artists not always get them, I can't help but cringe
Proves the point. He is not in touch with the culture
I could do the same Fantano does, He’s just a random dude that doesn’t know anything about hip hop, I do.
He gives bad artists good scores and good artists mid scores
I personally find it fucking hilarious how so many people can get so pissed at the personal opinions of a bald vegan
Idk when ppl meat ride him like his fans do it gets pretty annoying lol
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It’s his fanbase that’s the problem
i honestly think the same, who gives a fuck about what a bald white guy thinks?
@@kamfisher1714 fans in general, rap fans are as annoying as kpop fans or even taylor swift fans, bro imagine going up to someone irl because they did not like Gunna's album, be fr
"Oh, you worried 'bout a critic? That ain't protocol" - Kendrick
What? Lol Kendricks a clown for that line, especially since critics perpetually suck him off
To be fair Kendrick has never had a bad critic just worshipers even tho I think he's the goat it's an ignorant statement to make especially since the few times he gets flak he goes at them one way or the other
He is the most overrated rapper@@pastelzombie3614
@@pastelzombie3614 I mean, “he gets flak” from other rappers so yeah… he SHOULD go at them lol. Wdym
@@pastelzombie3614True. He literally included his critics in interludes for his albums so
Not gonna lie though, Fantano giving the Sexxy Red album an 8 is downright diabolical and completely uncalled for.
Sexy redd not talented . She just got good beats . But to be honest i would give her album a 9 because some of them good
No way he gave that trash shit a 8 😂😂😂 I gotta see that review that’s fucked hahaha
@@jayalwaysawakeThat album is A 2 on A good day.
Easily the worst take he’s ever had. Either that or giving the new Bring Me the Horizon album a 3/10. He’s had some bad takes (hip hop and everything else), but that one has to be THE WORST
I didn’t listen to that pos of an album and I already know it was trash
Lil Xan talking about people not understanding rap music is comedy 🤣
Rest in peace to Lil Peep but his music just wasn't for me. I legitimately thought and still think that his music is for those edgy 13 year old emo kids. Also, lil xan saying that lil peep is a great artist is ABSOLUTELY CAP.
@@RufinoSantiago392hes still better than lil xan 💀🙏
@@piggy9812 that is a low bar. I could wipe my ass with a microphone and I'm sure whatever comes out would be more listenable that anything on Total Xanarchy
@@piggy9812 way better
If Lil Xan is the HipHop community than the opinion of the hiphop community isn't worth much.
kanye is the only artist to get 2 10/10s from fantano yet kanye fans say hes biased against him lol
For reallll
I remember the Kind see ghosts 10, but which one was the second?
@@jonathanm9993college dropout. pretty sure he's been saying it's his favorite kanye album
@@jonathanm9993 college drop out
im sure hes given tons of artists multiple 10/10s for albums before his channel's time
For a genre that supposedly embodies masculinity, some rappers and Hip Hop fans really get in their feelings over an online critic.
If a critic never pisses anyone off they're either irrelevant or a total hype man who loves everything. Of course it sucks to have a million people see your magnum opus get a '2' but that's their job.
@@TheStrangeBloke Young Dabo💀
Well said
Have you seen his fanbase ?
Welcome to the life of blacks
"You guys know it's just my opinion, right?"
-The bottom of Melon's description every video.
Yeah but his opinion influences his trash audience and has an effect on the music these people make
@@vertyy0331Lol no it doesn’t. It doesn’t effect the type of music they make at all because they have the option to look at his opinion as just that. HIS Opinion. If you can’t take a person expressing their opinion then the rapper themselves shouldn’t be able to put out art to the public.
@@vertyy0331delusional
@@DimoJaXX you don't think that his opinions influence his audience even a little bit on whether or not they should pruchase the album? He's said this clear as day himself
@@AidenAlien you think I'm delusional for a man with millions of subscribers having any sort of influence on the music he's reviewing?
saying you have to be black to critic or understand black music is like saying you have to be spanish to understand dali's paintings.
Well, knowing about spanish history allows you to know that dali was a francoist and was not a great person, and that could be reflected in his paintings and would help to better understand his intentions as an artist, on the other hand knowing the context of a musician's reality, who makes a genre of music where the most important element is the lyrics, is extremely important.
It is not the same for other genres or songs where the lyrics have a more secondary role, and the melodies, harmonies, rhythms or sound design take the main role, things that Fantano does not seem to know much about despite being a musician.
@@m.dave2141 you can be knowledgable about something while not being it you know that right?, you don't have to be a pig to know about pigs, so you don't have to be spanish to know about the stuff you just mentioned.
@@m.dave2141 he's not a deep analysis channel who looks at the music theory like melodies harmonies and rhythms, or even production. he doesnt talk about the details of those things he just talks about the overall music
What a dumb comparison.
it's down right racist, it's all passion after all
He didn’t “lighten up on Tyler”. Cherry bomb sucked. His last 3 albums are great
even Tyler said Chery Bomb sucked lmao
all of tylers songs are shit be so fr
Yeah, just because Tyler got mad doesn’t mean Fantano decided to give him higher scores. Tyler’s music just got better.
@@thatguymatt5816 where u from? I’m from da south and can’t relate to Tyler’s music smh I just can’t connect
@@purrfitazitgetz3365 it'll be hard to connect to tylers music, if ur listening to him for a connection you're gonna have to find another artist to listen to, but if you're listening just to listen hes a good option
Not y’all using the Oliver Tree clip as ragebait when it was so obviously a bit 😂😂
Yeah that made me instantly take this video less seriously than I could have lol
@@stephenoxf That along with reading out random comments with barely any likes to prove a point.
Never type like that
@@NateS917like what?
@@morreamanhai think they are refering to the "not y'all" as a sentence starter
The fact he's pissing this many people off while still giving them props just lets me know he's doing the right thing
That Lil Xan interview is hilarious. Guarantee Anthony knows more about rap music than Lil Xan.
I don't even think lil xan knows what he's doing. Have you seen videos of him out of his mind keying his car? Shit's scary. Dude needs help.
It’s not a very high bar but yeah
@@yellowbones that’s in the past lil bro
@@yutikoohe still ass till dis day
@@yutikoo dont call me lil I aint no rapper bro
see the problem is when you as an artist release music publicly, you give everyone who listens to it the ability to form an opinion.
The problem is that Fantano is not a simple guy, he gained a lot of audience throughout the years. So the artists are scared/aware they'll lose a lot of earnings and reputation.
@@erbreddaa Imm sorry but if im being honest if an artist is that scared of a single critic (out of many) then IDK what they are even doing as music artists.
Make music for the audience that listens to you or actually cares. If someone is willing to stop listening to you over a Fantano review then they arent really your fans like that if Fantanos opinion changes theirs so drastically.
@@remedyplays40 nono, don't misunderstand me. My comment ment to be complementary to the previous one.
I also wrote a big comment which criticizes this video.
@@erbreddaa ohh no worries I appreciate you clarifying that though 🫡
@@erbreddaa if that were the case all of those rappers/artists hes given bad reviews to would not have an audience, and thats clearly not the case (see Drake, Yung Lean, Bladee, Vince, Tyler, etc.)
“Ever since, Fantano has gone easier on Tyler” yeah maybe because FB, Igor and CMIYGL absolute wipe cherry bomb 😂😂
I’d imagine Fantano couldn’t give a fuck less if they respect him or care about his reviews. He handles their criticism better than they do his. And considering the personas these guys play, that’s pretty sad
I still can't get over Drake, laying belly down on his bed with his feet kicking in the air, angry tweeting at Fantano on a weekend over his album review.
@@joshuawilliams8252 I still can't believe you, laying belly down on your broke crib with your feet kicking in the air, obsess posting on a random youtube video under a random comment not being able to get over people who don't know of your existence. i feel sorry for you. get a life
This is the one. Nailed it. He doesn't fucking care and they look pathetic throwing fits because he didnt love their music.
@@joshuawilliams8252P Drizzy definitely snapped his fingers and pouted after he hit send on the "your existence is a light 1" DM.
Well I do think he cared about Mos Def criticizing him
The problem is people forget that music is an art and art is subjective. We all want to defend what we like. It’s no reason for the hate.
Easy to say when you don’t put in that work yourself
The real problem is that anthony is the biggest hypocrite in music reviews.
Example-
Anthony: "I wish eminem would make an old style slim shady song."
Eminem: *makes an old style song
Anthony: "Why does eminem stay stuck in the past."
😂😂
Yeah but the moment you rate sexy red above Kanye is the day I’ll question if you were dropped on your head as a child
@@IAmTehGuy.When did he say that he wanted an old eminem style song? I know that he didnt like houdini, but when did he say the first statement
Nah people get in their feelings. He has rated some projects if FW quite low but he always gives reasons for why he doesnt FW them, he aint a hater if he is giving actual critiques. But IMO he is often right about his reviews, he makes good points, even his MDTF review he makes good points, Kanye did water down the album so it would be commercially successful, that shit was not the project he wanted to make in his heart of hearts.
His Mumble rap reviews were pretty spot on and they actually didn't differ much from what most long time hip hop listeners say.
Who cares smh yall slay me with this mumble rap and hip hop smh just dont listen bihh
@@purrfitazitgetz3365 no hate from me. You know the old heads be like...🤷🏿♂️💯
@@namelesintelect4016 yeh n my badd for da tone homie
@@namelesintelect4016 hot take of mine but bone thugs n harmony were the first mumble rappers
@@1shogunate696 definitely a hot take! They were the original thugs with melodies!
Fantano is so harmless that the fact that he has ANY controversy is absolutely absurd.
that is not true. In a lot of his reviews he critiques the artist's personal life and A LOT OF THE TIMES he's making fun of them.
He dares called himself a musician
@@budokhaiok boy
@@budokhaithat’s my issue he can’t separate his feelings about the artists from the art they produce.
he isn't harmless he can literally end artists careers he is that big why do his fans and him fail to acknowledge that?
Fantano single handedly proved hip hop is soft. He’s good for the game even if he misses the mark big time on occasion
I like melon because I can actually disagree with him, everyone wanna have these safe opinions, it’s nice to see from the perspective of someone who is actually genuine with his opinions, popular or not.
soiling a persons art then bashing them calling them soft after they feel some type of way isn't really an OWN if that hasn't occured to you yet
@@nahomkebede5107 He’s not soiling the art lmao, it’s called an opinion, just cuz he criticizes an album you might like doesn’t mean you need to whine and complain. Cuz at the end of the day his word isn’t gospel, you don’t need to have the same opinion, you can either agree to disagree or change your perspective based on his critiques. This is why people call hip hop fans soft.
@@fried_fries I wouldn't in any way shape or form call his gunna album reviews, his nav album reviews an opinion
@@fried_fries Also why do you think I'm whining I'm giving an OPINION on the personality that is Anthony Fantano
5:02 the gatekeeping of music made by marginalized groups is one of the most annoying things ever
Bro you don’t know our culture because you don’t like that one album that some of us like, never mind the other people in our culture who also think it’s fucking trash.
It's a blatant appeal of identity fallacy
If you don’t mind me asking, are you responding to the creator themselves or Fantano?
@@Kap_NYC He is making a satire of people who hate Fantano because he reviewed a project they like badly, and use his outsider perspective as the justification for why he is hating, when really they are just salty and in their feelings.
Honestly the reaction is embarrassing on the behalf of the black community , He reviews Asian and Hispanic artists and you don't see them blowing up like this
Too much lane keeping bullshit these days.
Genuinely glad to see people side with Fantano on this one.
God forbid someone has an opinion and elaborates on it.
People out here acting like HIS opinion HAS to match up with theirs. It's HIS opinion. It's HIS perception. Let the man fucking breathe
God forbid a white guy has oppinions about Hip Hop... So black people are not allowed to have oppinions about the Beatles then?? What kinda nonsense is that😂.
Fuck Fantano, he isnt honest. He absolutely is a liar. Its not his oppinion. Saying what you want to say is not your oppinion. Example, Me saying Lamborghini is shit because i like ferrari more. I deep down know lambo is far from shit but i WANT to bash Lambo because its not my team. Thats why people hate fantano, he is a sell out to who ever giver 5 bucks.
I feel like people tend to forget that hip hop is also the genre where he's awarded the most 10 out of 10s and usually sings the most praise. For every not good and 2 there are a fair few 7s, 8s and 9s. Hip hop fans use the fact that he's white to try and discredit him when he doesn't like a specific album which is a shame, people also tend to just skip to the score instead of hearing the legitimate criticism he might have which is usually sound. It's a honestly sad that his reviews are only seen as the number grade at the end of the video instead of the reasoning behind that number.
Honestly people saying "Wow he gave [x] album a [y] score" and just completely ignore the reasoning behind the scoring is so annoying. Fantano is very fun to watch because he might give a criticism or some compliment that makes me see the album in an entirely different light and appreciate it more. He says a lot of things I usually don't pick up on or don't know the full story.
I think the problem is that many internet Hip Hop fans blindly love everything that they’re favorite rappers put out no matter what. An example of this being people criticizing him for giving that boring ass Gunna album a low score.
@@thegoatfromiowa8948 That's pretty much exactly the issue. You can see it especially in Kanye/Opium fans who just refuse to admit that Kanye fell off or that Ken Carson just isn't good.
fantano is gonna go down in history as giving the most accurate eminem tear down and the most inaccurate eminem tear down of all time.
Yep revival sucks ems new album is good not amazing but good. Kamikaze was also good.
Couldn't have put it better myself
It's really sad how people tend to say "nobody cares about Fantano's opinion" and immediately give him around 1 million views every time he talks about a big rapper. I think people don't care about Fantano's opinion, I think they are obsessed about his opinion
He's a critic. Name one critic Hip Hop likes. I'll wait. Y'all reaching for topics recently.
Facts lol
He doesn't understand hip hop. He is always going to hate selected artists no matter what.
He doesn’t review the art without mixing his personal feelings about the artists. He can’t separate the art from the artist
@@JKR-gn5vj Exactly. Being Biased is a criminal if you're a judge or reviewer. We already know what's he is going to say about certain artists.
@@JKR-gn5vj Art is subjective and personal by pretty much every genre's own definitions. Try again.
0:20 I'm so confused I clicked this video thinking it was serious, but then you show a clip of Oliver Tree and Fantano clearly doing a bit as a serious clip...
its wild people saying Fantano doesn't like Rap music when he consistently gives good rappers good scores and like almost half of his 10/10s come from rap. do they know that in his scale a 6/10 is good? do they think hes grading them on a school grading system where a 6/10 is a D? They really must not actually watch Fantano and just form opinions on the out of 10 score (pretty ironic)
It's just like when people said he was sexist for giving the new Taylor Swift album and the Gracie Abrams album a bad review, but he's given great reviews to plenty of female artist, he literally gave that Charli XCX album a 10/10 but some how he hates women?? just because he personally didn't vibe with a certain album I think calling him sexist is a bit too far
@@trentterryfriends3934 I'm pretty sure the last 3 10s he's given have all been women with Charli, Spellling, and Lingua Ignota
yes, the morons do think 6/10 is a D when they act like it's a bad rating, they can't get past that thinking and it's insane. same concept just halved -- i get pushback on 3 out of 5 star reviews on letterboxd as if i hated the movie when 3 stars is a pretty solid rating on that scale!
Like kayne?
@@78grafikalliterally he gives KSG a 10, TLOP an 8, Ye an 8 as well and DONDA a 7, all this since 2016.
A big complaint I have with rap is that they are so allergic to feedback that their music starts to sound stall like Eminem and Em is my favorite rapper.
That's honestly a lot of artists nowadays, not just in hip-hop. So many artists won't take an iota of criticism, and their stans feed into that mindset by calling the critics "haters" or some sort of petty insult. I think social media has a lot to do with that, unfortunately
Then Fantano should be able to take it back.
Eminem last album Music to Be Murdered By is dope af. Mark my words few years from now, you gonna meet a new breed of Eminem stans who will put MTBMB as their #1 Eminem album. That's how great that album is.
@@kamfisher1714boy
@@cosanostra6358no its not. You have no taste
I'm amazed at how sensitive all these seemingly tough people gets with some music critique. Matter of fact is that even if we don't agree with them, music critiques will always exist and they're healthy for the whole industry, because they talk about you. If a big review channel gives you a strong 1 everyone will listen to your shit because everyon will want to know how bad it really is, and in that process you'll get a lot of people disagreeing and actually liking your shit. the biggest rule in marketing is that it's better for them to talk shit about you rather than nobody talking about your music at all
It’s they art playa
@@purrfitazitgetz3365 Art that they are incredibly soft about.
@@LicoriceLain well it’s more than dat tho homie cause it’s culture dat dese artist bring as well so a whiiite person trying to critique black experience would make someone bothered because they can’t speak on black experiences if they haven’t lived one and dats wale flamed dis fella
@@LicoriceLain u just internet yapping lol like most people do because they won’t say it to them in their faces 😂😂 killer Mike said the same thing and I live in a predominantly black city so who can a clear person speak on my experiences and why? The question is why ? If u never been to my city Lived my life ?? They deserve their axx whooped
@@LicoriceLain hip hop music has always been understood dat it’s for whiiite folks BUT NOT FOR whiiite folks and don’t let the internet blur lines because yall aren’t in black cities or circles lol you cant get a black experience off watching RUclips 😂 hip hop doesn’t critique pop music or country 😂😂😂😂 but YALL always wanna be in our circles it’s very weird because yall aren’t in the spaces in real life 😂😂😂 yall ain’t invited to da bbq so stop riding by stalking us 😂😂😂 trap lore Ross another culture vulture DATs In another country making money off black American content THAT HE STEALS OFF DA INTERNET 😂😂😂 he doesn’t have a source or nobody on the inside so how can a goofy British clear person make a video about someone being a “ studio gangster “ 😂😂😂😂😂
I never understood why he was disrespected like that. Its like being mad at a comedian for making a joke. He is literally just doing his job!
I don't understand why people pay over 500 for a pair of pants that only cost 5 dollars to make but here we are.
You're right but that's a weak argument as a) it's a self-appointed job, and b) people are entitled to hate those for their job such as a whaler (it's literally their job)
It's because people get used to their music getting inflated reviews from other sources. A fantano 7 is not the same as a 7 from The Rolling Stone or whatever. For most people rating things on a 1 - 10, their 'average' is like a 7.5, and anything lower than a 5 is basically unheard of. Fantano's 'average' is a 5. When artists drop an album and magazines are giving it a 8 and calling it "okay" and they see fantano gave it a 6 and called it "okay", they get mad at the lower number. Then you get people who actually know who the guy is and how he works, and when they get a 7 they're super happy because that's actually not super easy to pull off.
@@oscarwilson5805 understandable
@@leitmotif6854 damn good point
The mere existence of this video is silly. Why is there controversy about the opinions of another grown man. Smh
It's totally ironic, Isn't hip hop a depiction of black masculinity?
I feel what you're saying but here's the thing.. Anthony lives like 15 minutes away from where I live. He lives in New Haven, Connecticut but not anywhere close to Dixwell Ave, more towards the rural, rich white part. He grew up privileged and separated entirely from anything resembling hip hop culture. He really hasn't struggled in any real way. Now you don't have to be a specific demographic to review albums, but it just adds insult to injury when a subculture dominated by people who grew up and live on the polar opposite end of the spectrum is being gate kept by someone who literally comes from a line of people who historically have kept the other side of the spectrum down. It's like the rich factory owner who lives in the rural mansion who judges the inner city of poor people who literally run his factory. Fantano's factory is the culture he judges in this analogy. You have to at least appreciate the irony here. Aside from that, he lets his personal tastes, beliefs, and morals (or lack thereof) infect his ability to review music objectively. Can't count how many artists he's dogged just because of their politics not aligning with his, when previously he praised the same artist. At that point it's like ok, nobody really takes this guy's words seriously right? Because if it was just all entertainment and some random dudes opinion then who cares right? But clearly he has such a large following that his opinion actually affects the artists, not from his words alone, but from the type of audience he has. These people will ratio comment sections, troll fans, etc. anything to reinforce the community that's been cultivated in his comment section. That's when people start to get frustrated, especially artists, because it becomes clear that as crazy as it is to do, they all have to yearn for a good review from Fantano to avoid the domino effect a bad review can have. For that reason artists resent critics. They just wanna make music without having to cater to anyone
It's culture and people discuss culture
@@maxxmarino6500no. He’s never claimed to want to be objective though. If he wants to insert his personal beliefs he can do that 😂
@@lemondrop7305 sure, anyone can do anything they want, but in doing that all credibility goes out the window and the reviews become useless. I'm not Anthony's friend or family member so I'm really not interested in knowing what his favorite music is which is essentially what the video becomes. To each his own, but it just seems useless you're personally invested in his life for some reason
The irony of artists criticising Fantano for 'not understanding hip-hip' while most of their listeners are white and have even less of a clue is funny af. It's clear to anyone who doesn't isn't immediately out to discredit him that his reviews come with the context of hundreds of hip-hop albums supporting them. You don't have to relate with an artist to appreciate their ability to tell a story
At least their listeners don't make critical videos without knowledge and post them on social media
@@bagusbudi3828 Guessing you didn't read the second half of the comment? Got the Tik Tok attention span or something?
@@chosone2 how do you connect and understand what they rapping about ?? That’s why they said it was mumble because that’s how we speak in da south we SPEAK AAVE but I really think white people listen just because it’s cool smh because most blk folks don’t listen to country and I’m sure we can connect to it but we just don’t
Nobody was saying the you don’t know black culture stuff when he reviewed TPAB for 22 mins and gave it a 10.
apparently hip hop only thinks you know their culture if you like them. the genre in general has a racial fragility that no other genre has. country music doesn't budge when they get shit on by fantano.
he would gave TPAB a 10 if it was made by kendrick lamar
@@angel_of_rustbro what are you talking about country is super fragile. The biggest country trend is gate keeping what is and isn’t country. And btw I am a country fan.
@@angel_of_rust Really is that why when Beyonce made a country album the pitchforks and torches came out to gatekeep TF of the genere and she's a Texan through and through........ but you know what she isn't.........
@@angel_of_rust Talk about fragility
Nobody respects opinions nowadays. People act like opinions are undisputed facts or something.
don't get me started on people not knowing what objectivity and subjectivity are.
Rightt
What a stupid opinion I have no respect for it
The fact the Fantano is not cozy with hip hop and pop artists, whose records’ reviews make up the bulk of his channel’s output, makes his reviews even more legit.
To say that hip hop as a whole hates him is very disingenuous. His haters are just people who whine about his opinion and either gatekeep hip hop or hit him with the white boy card.
Most black people don't care because we dont value his opinions. Not because we hate him, he's just so far removed from the culture we dont even acknowledge him. He's a white guy that makes yt videos, nothing more, nothing less.
It's not people hitting him with the white boy card, he literally doesn't know what he's talking about with some of his cultural comments. The Wale thing was a good example.
He clearly gives bad opinions like sexy red's 8 and the GOAT'S album off season a 6 nobody cares abt him being white and white people need to stop acting like they experience great prejudice because they are white
@ericae.6547 you don't know sht about whites. But here you are
@@ericae.6547don't speak on white people like that if you don't want wants to speak on black
The irony of saying that he's not a part of the culture while at the same time most rappers get rich off of white consumers.
Doesn’t mean they’re apart of the culture
yup, they love that yt money
@@josendrado youtube?
The irony lol
in the case of rap it does. when you have a commercially successful genre it is driven by the public's demand. So if majority of hip hop audience is white, they're part of the culture. if a lot of producers and sound enginers are white, they're also part of the culture. I hate that black culture argument, it's so hypocrite
It's so weird to me that some people think it's a sign of a pompous jerk just by actually liking a lot of different music.
alternate title: why rappers are little bitches when a critic gives a bad review
It's absurd how they think that you need to be black to understand hip hop, so I have to be Japanese to understand Nujabes? This is music, not fucking cultural studies
Clearly, you've never put your heart, soul and months of your life to make something. Then you'd understand why they get pissed when this stupid mf shits on it in front of his huge audience.
@@wolfgangusbanana93it’s the quickest way to shut down discourse, right? It’s easier than arguing against someone
@@wolfgangusbanana93Nujabes is a hip hop artist
@@giveusbarabbas7138 yeah, my point Is that you need to be Japanese to appreciate His music? Don't think so
Hip hop doesn’t respect anyone.
Goat 🐐
Except naurdwar
@@icebrew I don't think I wanna meet a person who doesn't respect Nardwuar
Exactly. It is without a shadow of a doubt the most phony community.
Anthony is well spoken and his reviews are fun to watch. I disagree with a lot of his opinions but his reviews are usually entertaining and he introduced me to some great music I would have missed otherwise.
it's okay not liking the guy but his haters are worse, the average criticism they have of him is:
-"bla bla bla mbdtf"
-"he gave x album a higher rating than x album" (completely clueless of how art criticism works)
-"bla bla bla death grips"
Glad he has haters finally 🙏🙏 he needs to go n im glad ppl are coming to there senses
@@Acedegenerate07bro pls touch grass NOW
@@Acedegenerate07how it feels to be a disappointment
@@SumeriyaYaxlaka Probably touch more then you onion boy
@@dharshanm3242 Idk Maybe u could tell me since ur an expert at that.
Remember when being critised made you want to do better, be hungrier, show with your art that you are The GOAT?
Ego can make you act in crazy ways.
People don't get it this days and that sucks
Exactly
These days people just call them a hater. Pathetic.
i can understand them being upset because nowadays being harshly criticized can put food out of your mouth.
There's no way you put the fucking oliver tree video as a "He feuds with artists". Like everyone knew it was a joke right? Like even AI could figure out it was a joke surely
bro he literally just has his opinions like idk what people are so mad about lmfao if u don’t agree it’s ok but he clearly explains his opinions in his reviews, unlike a lot of people. he gives real criticism and whether you agree with it or not he stands on his views
People like to talk about forms of media, sometimes overly passionate. Look at the movie discussions, everyone has their opinion, but they would argue for the fun of it
didnt expect to see you here lmao
@@EntrEsprit yeah but there’s a dif between arguing and disagreeing with him and hating him
If he is free to state his opinions about people's work then people are allowed to say anything to him. You people forget that every action leads to a reaction.
@@michaelaghedo3793 yes but there’s a difference between disliking his opinions and hating on those and hating on him as a person which is what most people do. there should be a baseline of respect , IMO, for someone who lays out there opinions with critical and clear justification and explanation, as that is what art critique is about, even if you don’t agree.
This is def a false narrative, is it hip hop or just ppl that he heavily criticized that don’t respect him? I feel like you have to be a Stan of Drake or Ye to hate Anthony
Found the fantano stan.
@@DOCTORKHANblogfound the drake stan
You don’t have to be a stan to figure out his reviews are just clickbait
@@Braylon1997 might as well get off youtube, this video is clickbait.
@@Braylon1997wdym clickbait, he gives them bad ratings, give reasons for his ratings, how is that clickbait? The majority of his thumbnails doesn't even show his ratings?
In a culture in which three major labels basically have a monopoly over music distribution and are trying to feed everyone algorithm-friendly slop, the last thing we should be doing is hating on a genuine critic who doesn’t tow the corporate line
Fantano i think gives his own opinion instead of siding with the popular ones
no he just is a attention seeking contrarian 😂
fax
@@nahomkebede5107nah he just has good taste in music
yeah, sure. there was a leaked DM screenshot in a FB group where he said he hated 100gecs and didn't get it at all, but after they blew up on tiktok or whatever, suddenly they're very talented and forward thinking according to his review
@@SladeBallard That's just the process with 100gecs. I also hated them when I first heard it, but after a couple of listens they became one of my favorite bands.
u running out of ideas
Nah he needs to talk about that guy
Fr he really is lol
At first i thought he'll be talking only about people getting mad at his reviews, but to know his controversies with rappers was interesting enough, i only knew some of them
he is, but this is one of the final good ones
He a fan he a fan
Calling what fantano does “blackface journalism” is insane😂 also insane that they would call one of the most progressive music critics I’ve seen online “alt right”. Like I don’t agree with most of Fantano’s politics, but that’s because he’s too far left for me idk how you could think he’s far right lmao
Rappers are soooo sensitive it’s crazy lol.
tucked in their pajama clothes.
Hilarious how so many of these rappers that get offended have tried to build tough guy persona's or even talked about them not being easily offended like Drake did lol
the genre in general is so fragile to critique more so than any other genre by a longshot. Metal has its fair share of hate of Fantano since it seems to be his least favorite genre overall but it's not even close to the salt that some hip hop artists / rappers generate.
That's because they're narcissists that sit around writing about how great they are all day!
Fantano fan base r nothing meet hungry 🤡
lol I didn’t realize some of the hip hop community is as sensitive as the Swifties. He’s just doing what he does as a music critic. Just because he doesn’t like something doesn’t mean you should allow that to ruin music for you or worry about his opinion that much. After all it’s just that: his opinion
12:56 - You may hate on him but Fantano absolutely called it. Dude's been hating Drake for the same reason today everyone hates Drake. He was ahead of his time here.
17:37 - Vince can try to play it off and convince people that he believes Fantano's opinions are shallow and that he doesn't give a fuck, but he's the type of guy that will give a shit about smth and try to pretend he doesn't by being passive aggressive and tongue-in-cheek (like he's done with his comments towards Fantano in the last couple of years). Dude's throwing hissy fits and then say "but i'm jk idc lmaoooooo" yea right dude
To say “you don’t know music if you don’t know Anthony Fantano” is a huge stretch lmao.
I wouldnt say that avout like... all old music but pop indie rap music from the last 20 years yea. Thats not too much of a stretch. Like, fir this demographic i'd say the same thing about Narduar
😂😂bro is chronically online
It's more like "you didn't get bored with Pitchfork half-a-decade ago and then began doomscrolling RUclips" if you don't know Anthony Fantano.
Damm I never knew this guy so I guess I don’t know music till now I guess
@seymourglass26 i think anyone under the age of 30 is more likely to know a youtuber than scroll thru fuckin pitchfork
Should he really care if hiphop doesn’t respect him? He’s just giving his opinion. He’s extremely well versed in more genres than most people care to even delve into in their lifetime and knows a lot more about music than many of the people criticising him. The inconvenient truth is you *do not* have to be a hiphop head to review rap music and you’re not obligated to pay deference to the culture…that’s the reality…we can’t force them so why try? You don’t see rock, EDM or Jazz fans trying to gatekeep who reviews their music as much as hiphop heads do. People outside the culture are allowed to digest the music differently, we can’t really stop them 🤷🏾♂️ And low-key I wanna know how people outside that circle are digesting the music, I’ve always found observing how people from different walks of life digest art. That’s part of the fun. Cultural relativism is a thing, I don’t cry about it, because an echo chamber would be infinitely worse.
perfectly articulated best answer out of every comment i've read music's reflecting in our soul connects us more as people rather than acknowledge his opinions don't align with yours it's better to ignore or listen as his knowledge shared can uplift more music artists to find greater success in their career. Many who immerse themselves in different music genres often i love their different view on fav song musician i listen to, pressing or threatening someone with freedom of speech deprives from hearing any chance of potential valuable information to up-lift yourself more in better way
Both are good comments!
Highly articulated comment! Thanks for sharing it.
i agree except edm fans and jazz fans are arguably worse gatekeepers than hip hop heads, especially jazz my lord if you aren’t talking about music theory for the entire review you apparently don’t know anything about music and should delete the video
He can’t think like everyone on every album, but he has good points and is mostly consistent
I personally enjoy it when Melon reads some of these rappers wack bars back in the form of a question
as soon as someone says something like "dont understand our culture". All credibility is gone.
Good try, nerd.
Why are these grown men so damn sensitive? Im not allowed to speak on hiphop unless im praising it? Lmao and smh.
(...if youre white)
@@leaffinite2001a lot of white people can hear to
90% of this video is just explaining that he gave certain music a bad review and people disagreed. That's it. That's all it is and all it's ever been. And no matter how many times it gets reiterated that he's just a music critic and shouldn't be taken so seriously, people still start bitching about biases and ulterior motives. Honestly nearly impressive to make a whole 20 minute video essay about "some people had differing opinions, does that make Anthony Fantano a bad guy?".
I feel like a lot of rappers don't understand the fact that ANYONE can listen to their music once it's out lol.
I mean, if hip hop is just Kanye and Drake fans, then yeah, I guess they wouldn’t like it. Honestly though, most of his reviews are fairly spot on
It’s not Fantano’s fault that the hip hop community and rap artist are so sensitive. I don’t agree with some of his reviews but I understand it’s his opinion and I have my own
he gave MBDTF a 6 and Lil Pump a 7 😭😭😭😭
and Sexxy Red an 8 LOL
Gave House of Balloons a 3, what a joke
@@obiask Kanye fans when someone has an opinion:😱🤬
Yall care way too much about the 3 seconds of a number he says at the end and not the 15 minute review
Shite one regardless@@tuomaslouhisalo286
It’s crazy how these artists aren’t immediately deemed a racist. Saying he shouldn’t be reviewing rap music because he’s white is wild
What’s crazy is I’ve been hearing about him for years and ONLY ever watched a video from him during the Kendrick and Drake Beef 🥴🥴
same.
Rappers getting in their feelings over some opinions does not surprise me, because people are alot more sensitive than they realize.
But acting like someone not liking your music means theyre a hater has always annoyed me
Easier to say someone's a hater than be self aware.
not to mention when they begin to bring up "black culture"
they're hurting hip hop more than Fantano by playing the race card
I am soooo shocked the violent chronic sex offender music genre is in their feelings.
its crazy how pressed people get over one dudes opinion 😭🙏 i disagree w a lot of his takes but i think hes great at reviewing and keeping it real to what he believes
Fantano literally can’t lose bc he invokes reactions out of these artists who have fragile egos and literally give him power bc they react to him it’s hilarious😭🤣
I just hate that we live in a world where if someone has a though on any other thing they get attacked for not knowing the struggles of a culture or stuff like that. Rap is going to be liked by some and hated by others. It doesn’t mean someone doesn’t know what they are talking about or are trying to appropriate one’s culture 🤦🏻♂️
ikr. culture doesn't automatically make something good.
@@angel_of_rustmost goated comment I’ve seen in a hot minute
Hes had countless interviews with rappers. Denzel Curry, Ghostface Killah, Noname, Joey badass and thats just to name a few off the top off my head yea hip hop fans may not like him but I think some artists appreciate what he does
He brings his political views into the scores and reviews. But he is right about trash like Xan and Trippie 💀 shame on them using Peep and X as shields. His Drake hate been valid ngl
I mean people's political opinions certainly shape which content they enjoy that's pretty valid imo. Nothing wrong with liking or not liking something for being political.
@chimera_43 i mean a lot of times if the music is itself political (tom macdonald, recent kanye, others im sure) it would be neglectful and dishonest not to include how those politics influence your enjoyment of a song
Your stupid view is political bro
if the album itself is political then it makes sense then ig
That's the trouble I find with Anthony's reviews, which is why I typically prefer his reaction content where we get to see the live reaction to things instead.
So often the outside shenanigans will taint an artist's work, i.e. Kanye, Blueface, Ronnie Radke, and while this is sometimes reflected within their music quite directly, other times it's moreso in the background.
Anthony being a person who very closely follows music as a journalist and a fan, he's likely privy to a lot of this info and it's going to be difficult to enjoy a piece of art from someone who's has so much baggage outside of their art.
Personally, I learn a lot of background information from Anthony's reviews sometimes. But I CONSISTENTLY learn just as much, if not more, from interviews the artists do while promoting their work.
It's a mixed bag.
Reviews offer good outside perspectives so long as you're fine with taking it with a grain of salt.
Interviews are great from directly tapping in with the artist and their mindset at the time.
But I think reaction streams are great when you get to bond with people over music, even if your opinions differ.
Eminem: “And I know it’s your opinion but your opinion is wrong.”
you mean the nft scammer. with his old monkey pfp. i like em but that one made me lose respect for the man
@@pureexile1702that man doesn’t gave a damn about your respect lol
@@nostalgiaharvey7213 yeah and? I can still lose respect for an Artist, its because youtube and streaming services i listen to him and many others legally
@@pureexile1702 I’m not saying you don’t have to, what I’m saying is him losing respect from you doesn’t mean he cares. That he doesn’t know you and your respect exist. Just stfu quit complaining about some old sh!t.
@@pureexile1702 he still doesn’t know your respect for him even exist. He doesn’t know you. Yes I can say the same for me too. But you worrying about the wrong thing. Quit complaining. Next!!!
Fantano is probably the reason why RUclips masked the dislikes.
I feel like fantano’s criterias are not consistent for different artists which rightfully makes people mad
Well depending on the artist he might have a different standard for that person's music. Like if someone dropped a really good album then dropped a worse one he holds them accountable.
It’s kind of hard to be consistent when it comes to art. There’s films I rated less that try to be thoughtful character studies compared to cheesy kaiju films. Who’s to say it’s right or wrong to rate either film better?
But thats stupid because all music is different. I'm not gonna watch American pie and expect writing from game of thrones. All music is different everything cant be graded the same.
Ppl get really mad that across hundreds of reviews his number scores arent perfectly consistent which is silly
its almost like every piece of art is singular from one another, you probably one of the people that be like "why he gave x album a higher rating than x album" because you don't know how art criticism works
Bro you're just tripping, let bro have his opinions and be what a critic is supposed to be
You do know you are being bias and hypocritical right? This man can have his options about that bald creep just like he can have his opinions on music
When did disrespecting and humiliating artist were opinions? Hien!
Playboicartidefinitely is a hypocrite he can have his opinions about fantano like fantano can have his about music (he knows nothing about)
bro literally had a sleepover on the gunna review is that the type of quality content you enjoy
@@nahomkebede5107 Why are we suppose to respect Gunna all of the sudden?
Its crazy how artists get mad to a person thst is just giving opinion about music ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
I fuck with Anthony. He put me on to a lot of different artists I would’ve never checked out when I started really listening to albums. It’s a persons opinion and though it’s a platform that gets eyes, it’s just his opinion. We aren’t always going to like the same things.
Faaaaacts!
also i love how people jump down his throat for not enjoying some mainstream stuff and claims he's rating it lower for "attention" yet all of hip hops biggest artist and creators rn get big off of virality. practice what you preach yall
Funny you say that coz another comment says he doesn't like underground stuff. Think that shows a lot of it is people expecting him to agree with them!
@@snooganslestat2030bruh his most positive reviews are JPEGMAFIA, danny brown, death grips, MF doom, run the jewels, etc. we may know those groups but his job is literally to make those names popular again.
Just a reminder that on that album where Logic said he wanted to kill Fantano, Fantano gave that album a 7 out of 10.
suburban man reviews music from the streets made by suburban dudes pretending to be from the streets.
U do know majority of rappers are actually from the streets lmaooo horrible take on you’re part I can literally name 30 right now that grew up poor and from the ghetto . Fuck you’re talking about
Who then shut down any criticism of what is clearly lowest effort Spotify fodder by saying that you need to be black to understand hiphop... like Eminem.
This is like a video about how butt hurt rappers obsess about a bald music critic more than it is about why Hip hop doesn’t respect Fantano. Plenty of artists are completely ok with him, talking about an entire movement and genre not respecting someone or not is off the mark. To me every example in this video of an artist responding to Fantano’s reviews is as cringe as the Drake DMs were, especially Vince Staples and Logic talking about how they would kill him.
Imagine caring this much about a RUclips critic. 🙄
Fantano would be much easier to defend if his Twitter didn't exist.
That goes for every famous celebrity lmfao😂😂
leftism really is worse than anything else.
Him giving Sexy Red a 8 and Mac Miller a 3-4 at first on Swimming really hurt his credibility.
And she’s an untalented plant being promoted by him and Drake
Might be an off day, we all have days where we say unhinged shit like that
@@HopeeInk I think it's various factors some people are scared to say. Outside of him not giving certain projects a chance to marinate, if he's considered alt right, he may have a fetish for black girls that fit into the caricature category
@@HopeeInk straw man's argument. Give me something better than to try to justify this white man from the burbs not understanding a genre he's critiquing
"Blah blah blah he gave X album this score and Y album this score blah blah blah."
Wow, never heard that before.
Befriending Fantano just so you can be sure he's one of the first to listen to the song where you fantasizing about murdering him. What an absolute Chad.
When dude called Twista a southern rapper I was through with him right then lol
Did Chicago defect to the south?
He's definitely one of the most articulate reviewers I've watched and I do agree with a lot of what he says (depending on the topic) but within the last year or two Fantano's been insufferable in a few of his vids. He didn't have an issue with Snoop Dogg, Benzino, The Game, or Melle Mel calling Em a white boy in a negative way yet he took an out of context screenshot of part of Em's verse on 'Realist' with EZ Mil and tried saying the whole song was Em complaining about being white which flat out wasn't true, he was responding to the multiple people who were dissing him publicly.
Then he said he didn't want to give Kanye a platform to spew his hate speech - and then he proceeded to post several videos about Kanye across his RUclips and Instagram pages.
Then if you say anything about it he just calls you a "Stan", "fanboy", "glazer", or whatever internet buzzword is popular at the time instead of actually taking the criticism which is exactly what he does to artists who don't like what he has to say.
That joey badass clip had me in a chokehold😂😂😂 joey is so dope
Vince Staples had a whole idea of how he would kill him which I find very funny
What 😭 nooo that's so embarrassing.. I never heard this tea. Was it on twitter?
@@islabee94it’s literally in this video.
Sam Hyde too:
"If I was Fantano I'd be suicidal
I'd be like Kurt, with my lips on a rifle
If I was Fantano, I'd get me a rifle
I'll kill Fantano, right hand on the Bible"
Idk fantano didn’t speak too good about the song “Dupe - Mbappe”, he doesn’t respect underground artists 😮😮
it’s cause that track is trash
@@asherdunton9999 hell nah u crazy
I really fw your videos, but “You don’t know music if you don’t know Anthony Fantano” is an untrue and just weird glaze.
"FROM FUCKING ANTHONY FANTANO?????? LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO"
- T-pain after being viewer raided from fantano
his sexyy red take is legit his worse take ever