There's something in the back of my mind which I remember reading years ago that when he was at Jordan in 2004, some of the team thought his name, was, Tim o' Glock? 😂Or maybe that was just a fever dream I had
Well as an irrational Grosjean stan, my favourite moment of GP2 is RoGro overtaking three cars in two corners at Barcelona and making the commentator respond with "Shut up! That's ridiculous!"
For me, winning the "step below F1" is a bit of a poison chalice. Since F3000 started in 1985 and the GP2 and F2 years there have been 40 seasons with 40 champions. Out of those 40, 33 have made it to F1 From those 33 There have been 2 world champions:- Hamilton, Rosberg 10 race winners:- Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri, and only 6 have won multiple races. If you take Hamilton and Rosberg out of those, the rest have won a grand total of 24 races! 17 have stood on the podium To me, it's not a great record for champions of the step below F1 in 40 seasons
Without Rosberg and Hamilton, 2007-8 would go to alonso massa or Kimi, 2009 the same 2010-2013 still no GP2 graduate in with title shot, and then it depends who merc would hire 2014-2020
Considering the old F2: 3 World Champions: Brabham, Hamilton and Rosberg. 19 race winners: Brabham, Ickx, Beltoise, Regazzoni, Peterson, Depailler, Lafitte, Jabouille, Arnoux, Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri. 19 race winners on a universe of 64 years is kinda few. Taking off Brabham, Hamilton and Rosberg, no one has more than 10 wins, and only Peterson has this exact number.
11:20 - Roman “The Phoenix” Grosjean maybe a popular driver in the stands at IndyCar, but I’m not sure he’s that popular in the paddock? Collisions with most of the very fiery US/Aus/NZ drivers in that series, it’s more than just being called an “idiot” on the radio. Grosjean has put more than a few drivers off and took shunts in return. 2023 was most memorable for Will Power’s chilling vow of on-track revenge after being hit by Roman at Barber and Roman’s own teammate Colton Herta being incensed when Grosjean plain ran him off track at Road America despite different tire strategies. He was calmer in 2024, but capped it with the worse track rejoin of the decade, after one collision at the huge chicane that is T1/T2 at Portland that caused him to be involved in a second accident with a different group of cars on the same lap at the same corner complex 🙀
He did great, no question about that, but he's also the ONLY GP2 driver directly promoted to one, if not the best, F1 team at that moment. A little unfair to compare that to whatever material the others received.
He is just one of the unluckiest drivers ever when it comes to career choices. Imagine that guy in a car capable of winning races... He would have taken lot's of them. But driving just shitbox after shitbox every season, he wasn't even able to score a podium.
@@DSBMAC13Not his fault ferrari chose a washed Raikkonen over him in 2014 and that Hamilton said yes to mercedes, Wolff said Hulkenberg would’ve been their choice if Lewis had not signed
To think, I thought Nico was ruining Lewis's chances back then... now I realise he was amazing to beat one of the best racers of our time... and in the same spec car ! Wow! Nico is underrated by many but was in fact a brilliant champion, in my opinion.
yh tbf to Nico he basically almost destroyed his marriage to only just about beat Lewis due to reliability. 5 years later it took someone who races virtually 24/7 and an assist to beat Lewis. It's wild looking back that the only people to beat Lewis needed to basically have no life outside of racing
@@dr_diddy Rosberg only managed to beat Hamilton because before the 2016 season, Mercedes switched the crews maintaining the two cars. The crew Hamilton got in 2014-2015 was much more better than Rosberg's crew. Hence why Hamilton's car was not as reliable as Rosberg's one in 2016. Rosberg never beaten Hamilton in equal machinery. The same applies to Hamilton.
Ppl really underrate Nico, saying shit like he's not championship material. Like bruh, beating Lewis means you're championship material. This loss was not 2024 Lewis, he was much better so that should tell you how good Rosberg actually was. In 2012 he was the only person from the midfield that was regularly challenging the top 3 teams.
So much wasted talent...i mean not always the best drivers win the crown but still You might not be the best talent but to win a championship in any form you must have the mentality
For me, winning the "step below F1" is a bit of a poison chalice. Since F3000 started in 1985 and the GP2 and F2 years there have been 40 seasons with 40 champions. Out of those 40, 33 have made it to F1 From those 33 There have been 2 world champions:- Hamilton, Rosberg 10 race winners:- Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri, and only 6 have won multiple races. If you take Hamilton and Rosberg out of those, the rest have won a grand total of 24 races! 17 have stood on the podium To me, it's not a great record for champions of the step below F1 in 40 seasons
@nickwall2497 f3000 and even gp2 was more of a seperate series as also being a junior series...a lot of drivers did actually drive f3000 from f1 and from outside...jim clark did pass away driving f3000
Jordan was struggling in 2005 so the Indian money of pay driver Narain Kartihikeyan took his place even though he was a Toyota driver and Jordan was powered by them. The team got lucky scoring any points, the 2005 US GP which was a farce of a race with only Bridgestone runners competing. They finished the season in 9th in the constructors which would've been last if not for the US GP
The Extreme E team of Rosberg and Hamilton came to an end this year. As the series will evolve into Extreme H. Lewis is now on the look-out to co-invest into a Moto GP team. Glock was never at the right time/moment/place I think. He could have done much more/better I think... Leimer is someone I didn't know of - till this list. Vandoorne was also a driver in the right time/moment/place-category.
Yes they are switching to hydrogen so it’ll be known as Extreme H rather than Extreme E, but there are still so many unknowns about the first season (which supposedly will be in 2025). Not only do we have no idea which teams will compete, we don’t even have a race calendar yet. This last season of Extreme E in 2024 has been a complete disaster with several teams just deciding they couldn’t be bothered taking part given they were switching to hydrogen soon anyway, and then not even finishing the season and cancelling the last 2/3 weekends. Whilst they will want to get racing at some point having spent so much time and money developing the car for the Extreme H launch, I would not be surprised if we don’t get Extreme H at all, certainly not in 2025 as planned, and even if we do who knows which teams will decide they want to compete. As fun as Extreme E was to watch at times, past form likely wouldn’t attract loads of new teams to want to join Extreme H
There are some eye catching drivers that have won, but some absolute noobs as well. Leimer, Pantano, Valsecchi are all pretty terrible. Vandoorne is certainly one with the most disappointing career, considering his dominance.
9:39 correction, Pastor Maldonado finish third in the 2018-19 World Endurance Trophy for LMP2 Drivers standing and NOT for the overall standing.
My bad. Thanks for the heads up and feedback!
GP2's greatest legacy is Alonso's appraisal of the McLaren Honda partnership.
Good one.
Leimer’s gotta be the forgotten man of GP2/F2 - went from GP2 champ to Ferrari Challenge in three years 😭
Stoffel Vandorne...... sad emoji incoming.....☹
Does anybody else want Timo Glock to start an F1 constructor called Team O’Glock?
Then Hamilton would be in Position again 😂
There's something in the back of my mind which I remember reading years ago that when he was at Jordan in 2004, some of the team thought his name, was, Tim o' Glock? 😂Or maybe that was just a fever dream I had
@danihelios is that Glock?
No it'd be called "Is THAT Glock"
I do now!
Well as an irrational Grosjean stan, my favourite moment of GP2 is RoGro overtaking three cars in two corners at Barcelona and making the commentator respond with "Shut up! That's ridiculous!"
3:12 Blow me down if that isn't Fred Vasseur, next to Lewis, Norbert & Ron.
that is freddie
It is indeed him Fred was Lewis team principal when he was at ART
It's why Lewis is off to Ferrari. 🤷🏻♀️
Stoffel is underrated
For me, winning the "step below F1" is a bit of a poison chalice.
Since F3000 started in 1985 and the GP2 and F2 years there have been 40 seasons with 40 champions.
Out of those 40, 33 have made it to F1
From those 33
There have been 2 world champions:- Hamilton, Rosberg
10 race winners:- Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri, and only 6 have won multiple races.
If you take Hamilton and Rosberg out of those, the rest have won a grand total of 24 races!
17 have stood on the podium
To me, it's not a great record for champions of the step below F1 in 40 seasons
But without Hamilton and Rosberg in that F1 line up, maybe more of the others would have been champs?
Without Rosberg and Hamilton, 2007-8 would go to alonso massa or Kimi, 2009 the same 2010-2013 still no GP2 graduate in with title shot, and then it depends who merc would hire 2014-2020
Considering the old F2:
3 World Champions: Brabham, Hamilton and Rosberg.
19 race winners: Brabham, Ickx, Beltoise, Regazzoni, Peterson, Depailler, Lafitte, Jabouille, Arnoux, Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri.
19 race winners on a universe of 64 years is kinda few.
Taking off Brabham, Hamilton and Rosberg, no one has more than 10 wins, and only Peterson has this exact number.
Got worried when he started listing Lewis Hamilton's records, thought he would just carry on to list all of them.
The pic of vasseur holding cake is hilarious for some reason 😂
Grosjean is also a Lamborghini Worksdriver
Can you do one video with the runner ups?
In 2009 it was still a Renault, not Lotus. The Enstone team became Lotus in 2012 (in 2011 Lotus was a title sponsor).
Yep. Corrected that with an annotation on screen. Realised my mistake as I was editing :)
11:20 - Roman “The Phoenix” Grosjean maybe a popular driver in the stands at IndyCar, but I’m not sure he’s that popular in the paddock? Collisions with most of the very fiery US/Aus/NZ drivers in that series, it’s more than just being called an “idiot” on the radio. Grosjean has put more than a few drivers off and took shunts in return.
2023 was most memorable for Will Power’s chilling vow of on-track revenge after being hit by Roman at Barber and Roman’s own teammate Colton Herta being incensed when Grosjean plain ran him off track at Road America despite different tire strategies. He was calmer in 2024, but capped it with the worse track rejoin of the decade, after one collision at the huge chicane that is T1/T2 at Portland that caused him to be involved in a second accident with a different group of cars on the same lap at the same corner complex 🙀
Well, Grosjean was always famous for crashing or causing a crash, so nice to see that he is continuing the tradition in Indycar.
That Lewis Hamilton story of being promoted to f1 and bagging 9 podiums in a row is still absolutely wild! Can’t wait for Lewis to deliver once again!
He didn't drive a jaguar.
The best rookie Story 😂
Still living in that delusion. Hes 40.
He did great, no question about that, but he's also the ONLY GP2 driver directly promoted to one, if not the best, F1 team at that moment. A little unfair to compare that to whatever material the others received.
Hulkenberg. He’s such a curious case…
He is just one of the unluckiest drivers ever when it comes to career choices. Imagine that guy in a car capable of winning races... He would have taken lot's of them. But driving just shitbox after shitbox every season, he wasn't even able to score a podium.
Hes not unlucky hes just pverrated. How is bottlinf 2012 brazil unlucky? He did the same in bahrain 2014@@DSBMAC13
@@DSBMAC13Not his fault ferrari chose a washed Raikkonen over him in 2014 and that Hamilton said yes to mercedes, Wolff said Hulkenberg would’ve been their choice if Lewis had not signed
To think, I thought Nico was ruining Lewis's chances back then... now I realise he was amazing to beat one of the best racers of our time... and in the same spec car ! Wow! Nico is underrated by many but was in fact a brilliant champion, in my opinion.
yh tbf to Nico he basically almost destroyed his marriage to only just about beat Lewis due to reliability.
5 years later it took someone who races virtually 24/7 and an assist to beat Lewis.
It's wild looking back that the only people to beat Lewis needed to basically have no life outside of racing
@@dr_diddy Rosberg only managed to beat Hamilton because before the 2016 season, Mercedes switched the crews maintaining the two cars. The crew Hamilton got in 2014-2015 was much more better than Rosberg's crew. Hence why Hamilton's car was not as reliable as Rosberg's one in 2016. Rosberg never beaten Hamilton in equal machinery. The same applies to Hamilton.
Are you talking about f1 youtuber niko rosberg?
Ppl really underrate Nico, saying shit like he's not championship material. Like bruh, beating Lewis means you're championship material. This loss was not 2024 Lewis, he was much better so that should tell you how good Rosberg actually was. In 2012 he was the only person from the midfield that was regularly challenging the top 3 teams.
So much wasted talent...i mean not always the best drivers win the crown but still
You might not be the best talent but to win a championship in any form you must have the mentality
For me, winning the "step below F1" is a bit of a poison chalice.
Since F3000 started in 1985 and the GP2 and F2 years there have been 40 seasons with 40 champions.
Out of those 40, 33 have made it to F1
From those 33
There have been 2 world champions:- Hamilton, Rosberg
10 race winners:- Alesi, Panis, Montoya, Hamilton, Rosberg, Maldonado, Leclerc, Gasly, Russell and Piastri, and only 6 have won multiple races.
If you take Hamilton and Rosberg out of those, the rest have won a grand total of 24 races!
17 have stood on the podium
To me, it's not a great record for champions of the step below F1 in 40 seasons
@nickwall2497 f3000 and even gp2 was more of a seperate series as also being a junior series...a lot of drivers did actually drive f3000 from f1 and from outside...jim clark did pass away driving f3000
@@mrbungle3310 I'm talking about CHAMPIONS from the step below in the past 40 seasons and Jim Clark died in an F2 race
Jordan was struggling in 2005 so the Indian money of pay driver Narain Kartihikeyan took his place even though he was a Toyota driver and Jordan was powered by them. The team got lucky scoring any points, the 2005 US GP which was a farce of a race with only Bridgestone runners competing. They finished the season in 9th in the constructors which would've been last if not for the US GP
is that glock?
Gp2 did not fold, it was just renamed
Missing Infos to Glock . He will be driving in DTM 2025 and is Sky Germany Pundit also
The Extreme E team of Rosberg and Hamilton came to an end this year. As the series will evolve into Extreme H. Lewis is now on the look-out to co-invest into a Moto GP team.
Glock was never at the right time/moment/place I think. He could have done much more/better I think... Leimer is someone I didn't know of - till this list.
Vandoorne was also a driver in the right time/moment/place-category.
FYI. Rosberg is shutting down rxr
That's because Extreme E, the series where his team competed, is also shutting down completely
@ I They are switching to hydrogen?
Yes they are switching to hydrogen so it’ll be known as Extreme H rather than Extreme E, but there are still so many unknowns about the first season (which supposedly will be in 2025). Not only do we have no idea which teams will compete, we don’t even have a race calendar yet. This last season of Extreme E in 2024 has been a complete disaster with several teams just deciding they couldn’t be bothered taking part given they were switching to hydrogen soon anyway, and then not even finishing the season and cancelling the last 2/3 weekends. Whilst they will want to get racing at some point having spent so much time and money developing the car for the Extreme H launch, I would not be surprised if we don’t get Extreme H at all, certainly not in 2025 as planned, and even if we do who knows which teams will decide they want to compete. As fun as Extreme E was to watch at times, past form likely wouldn’t attract loads of new teams to want to join Extreme H
good
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There are some eye catching drivers that have won, but some absolute noobs as well. Leimer, Pantano, Valsecchi are all pretty terrible. Vandoorne is certainly one with the most disappointing career, considering his dominance.
You talk a bit too fast sometimes
You can play back the video slower or faster
I’m working on it. Compared to older videos, this is slow 😅 I’ll get there! Thanks for the feedback.
One guy got into F1 and has been walking around the paddock in pajamas regularly since.
Only rookie champions really matter.
no nico mention😞😞😞
sorry wrong comment nico mention🙏🙏🙏