MANHUNTER - Seeing Through the Eyes of Madness
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Analyzing Michael Mann's "Manhunter" - the first adaptation of Thomas Harris' Hannibal Lector series of novels and discuss its use of expressionist filmmaking to bring his audience in tune with both the investigator and killer’s tortured minds, Manhunter’s use of implied, almost unspeakable horror, and the film’s use of sight and reflection, which both fuel and destroy inner demons.
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It's just you and me now, sport.
Lol
Dream much Will?
And I'm going to find you, goddammit!
You pronounced sociopathy wrong
Thanks for uploading this. This is my absolute favorite film of all time, superseding Blue Velvet, To Live and Die in L.A, Mystery Train, and After Dark, My Sweet. I have yet to show this film to someone that hasn’t enjoyed it.
A brilliant movie and truly a forgotten masterpiece in the filmography of Michael Mann.
Not forgotten, these days it's recognized as the wonderful movie it is. And I'd say it's tied with Silence as the best adaptation of the authors' work.
Forgotten? Speak for yourself...
"...truly a forgotten masterpiece..."? Talk about hyperbole, sheesh.
What my man here is saying by "forgotten" is that this movie is not remembered as silence of the lambs (not at all)
@@NUCLEARDASH Not to get into minutiae, but the movie was a box office bomb. It's widely considered to be one of Mann's best and overlooked movies. It's hard to consider a movie that was a complete bomb forgotten when it was failure. We're probably splitting hairs
I just love Will and Molly's relationship in this movie. Oddly, it's one of the most functional marriages I've seen in film. She's strong, emphathetic and utterly supportive. Their relationship is based on respect. A nice change from the tortured dynamic you usually see in this type of movie. It highlights Will's essential goodness, despite the darkness he faces.
This movie was so special to me because during the scene where Will watches the movies and cracks the case.......
I did too. It was almost simultaneous.
While Will is focusing on the pets, I started to try and figure it out because I felt that Michael Mann was teasing us with the answer.
I thought to myself
“maybe the killer seen these tapes too, took me another few seconds to think he must work at a film developers lab, how else did he see these.”
And these thoughts happened just as Will’s eyes widened, the music fades up and he says “you’ve seen these films, haven’t you my man”
It was a draw between me and Will lol
I’m not saying I’m super smart, I’m saying that the smart guy is Michael Mann. what happened with me is exactly what he wanted the audience to experience.
Love your relay 👍
I didn`t get it at first. But it was as special to me too. Especially with the great music, as almost always in Michael Manns productions.
Agree with @67maverick. I didn’t get it until Will said it and then I was blown away. Great scene and great movie.
Such an underrated choice so glad you tackled this one.
who under-rated it?
@@orangewarm1 Audiences upon release.
Manhunter is my favorite psychological thriller. I saw it in the theaters when it first came out. It left such an impression on me. The soundtrack is the best. Well done Michael Mann
Dolarhyde tormenting Freddy Lounds and the "Do you see" monologue are some of the scariest parts of both Manhunter and Red Dragon.
"You are privy to a great becoming ..."
@@MattDraper "But you recognise nothing."
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"an ant in the afterbirth"
He is the scariest out of all 3 Of the Red Dragons for sure Hands Down
Ralph Fiennes is great and all but that reveal in Manhunter was terrifying, being the very first time the audience sees him just like Lounds. Also like Lounds, we don’t have the comfort of music but can only just sit back while he’s forced to listen to Dolarhyde torment and taunt him.
Damn, I watched Silence Of The Lambs and the rest of the Hopkins Hannibal films(probably way too young) first and when I heard of this film I brushed it off as probably inferior, but now I am super interested.
Silence of the Lambs meets Miami Vice.
...it is the best.
I prefer Manhunter over Silence of the Lambs. Edward Norton was such a wrong choice to play Graham in the Manhunter remake Red Dragon. He wasn't convincing nor believable at all and looked more like substitute teacher compared to how Peterson was for the role of Graham in Manhunter. No comparison when you think about it actually IMO. Peterson was the right choice for the role, hands down. For the remake Red Dragon they should have chosen Nicolas Cage to play Graham. Anybody but Norton.
Brian Cox is the ORIGINAL Hannibal Lector .
You need to watch this one! There is no comparison to Silence.
There would be no Hannibal Lector franchise without this under-budgeted, very well-produced nonetheless, masterpiece.
I’m glad you talked about this movie. This was one of my dad’s favorite movies(He even got Brian Cox to autograph his VHS of the film) And it brought back so many memories.
This movie is one of my favorites of all time, I got into Michael Mann after watching Thief and Manhunter in the same week, having seen Red Dragon beforehand but not being terribly impressed. After a thorough rewatching of Manhunter, I was enamored with the creepiness of the Tooth Fairy being a total mystery for the longest time combined with the moody dream-like nature that was familiar to me from Thief combined with how intense Petersen’s performance is, and the soundtrack always being the icing on the cake. Not only is it one of my favorite films of all time, but it elevated Michael Mann from the director that made cool movies like Heat and Thief to my favorite director of all time.
Just for one correction, there is a small implication of Hannibal’s cannibalism in Manhunter where Graham mentions that Hannibal gave a recipe for potato chip dip when asked for the site of one of his victims.
Also, I find it borderline hilarious that David Lynch turned down Manhunter after finding the story to be too violent, only to make Blue Velvet just as violent, if not more at times, and much more explicit. As much as I like David Lynch, I’m beyond glad Michael Mann landed this film.
Thanks for doing this Matt. I’m a huge “Miami Vice” fan, so I was excited to see this when it came out in the 80s. Seeing it in the theater emphasized the importance and power of the score and the contrast of the lighting. Still, I think it’s Michael Mann’s most under-appreciated film. Until you see it. Then you love it. William Petersen, Brian Cox, and the late Dennis Farina are great. But Tom Noonan’s performance breaks your heart. Great little film.
Manhunter is my favorite Hannibal film. Silence of the lambs is great and all but this just stuck with me more if that makes sense. Thanks for the great video!
With a desire to investigate crimes in real life, watching this film was so amazing and reflected what I wanted to do- think like the criminal. All of Will Graham’s story is incredible in both book, this movie, and the show Hannibal as a dive into the mind of the psychotic. This film is a marvel to watch, and I go back from time to time just to see the revelation. I guess that’s my primary intake too.
Manhunter is Psycho 2 of hannibal franchise
Both are arguably best in franchise and yet most underrated
Good comparison.
I saw "Manhunter" when it was released in theaters. I was blown away.
It us still one of my Top Five favorites. Have you seen "Thief?"
Yes, I have. Another very underrated movie.
Having seen Silence of the Lambs, Heat and Thief, I look forward to watch this Michael Mann movie with Hannibal Lector in the near future! Thanks for another great video Matt! Glad to see quarantine has not affected the content of these videos.
Definitely add it to your watch list! And check out Collateral by Mann if you haven't seen it yet.
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Fantastic! This movie is very underestimated. From Michael Mann we still have a lot to learn from his cinema. Thanks Matt for this video.
Brian Cox is my favorite actor to play Lecter. He always came across as what someone like Lecter would actually be like in the real world.
Man, this video was amazing!
No, YOU'RE amazing!
I love Manhunter and this is truly one of Mann's best works (and yes, I love Heat).
Criminally underrated film!
12:24 is the best scene of the movie. I wish that Matt Draper could have extended that portion but...not bad.
The coolest thing about this movie is how close it is to Miami Vice in style. You can’t talk about it without mentioning the show. This was the first movie Mann made after it took off for him, and it is very much connected.
CSI, NCIS, Profiler, Mindhunter, The Following, The Blacklist can all give a big thank you to this movie
Ironic how William Peterson later starred in CSI.
4:15
Banal fact to you, weird/interesting to me: I had a series of recurring dreams about running down that twisting balcony 20 odd years ago.
Your recurring dreams may mean that you were plumbing more deeply into your interior. Sometimes external life circumstances can elicit interior growth/self-knowledge reflected in these kinds of dream-symbols.
"You've seen these films, haven't you, my Man?"
One of the great movie revelations. Like The Prestige, it's right there. Once you realise, everything changes.
One reason not to trust imdb ratings, just a beautiful visual masterpiece, beyond it's time, to be studied, also such great review guys
Badass flick. I remember when this came out. It was the same time another one of Michael Mann's projects was taking the country by storm; Miami Vice. Both are very stylized in their own unique way.
Thanks. I've been looking for a video essay about this film. I'm working on one about to live and die in la another fantastic William Petersen film.
Oh that's awesome! I'm a huge Friedkin fan.
One of my all time favorite films. It is head and shoulders above any of the Hannibal Lector films. To give an idea of the world that we lived in when it came out I was blown away by the technology that the FBI apparently possessed of faxing a photo of Dollarhyde’s driver’s license to the flying Lear jet. A piece of paper magically transported thru the air!!! As if the starship Enterprise was involved! Could such technology exist? I was lucky enough to see the version first that ends with Graham compelled by his inner demons ( As Lector says “ You want the smell? Smell yourself.”) to go “see” ( “It’s all about seeing with you, isn’t it?”) the family ( especially the woman with the “bloom”) that would have been “visited” next. Which a huge part of Graham that he struggles desperately to control and suppress wants to “use” (the people are just objects, they mean nothing”) take to satisfy his hunger. It is the only version that I watch. IT IS WORTH FINDING. One point that drives me nuts is that Michael Mann for some reason veers from the book by having the reporter “Lounds” place his hand on Graham’s shoulder when the photo is taken to be published in “The Tattler” to hopefully lure the killer into the FBI’s trap. In the book it is Graham who places his hand on Lound’s shoulder making the despised Lound’s his “pet”. Graham, by then had told us the killer “always kills the pet”. Which in the movie, as in the book leads to Lound’s horrific death at the hands of the monster. Did Graham brilliantly, diabolically set Lound’s up to be slaughtered? Films don’t get any better than this and the music and cinematography is so quintessential Michael Mann that the moment I saw it (Especially the blue tinted scene in the bedroom of Graham and Callie “we have it good don’t we? We have it more than good.” I was seeing Crockett and Tubbs and Miami Vice. Pure visual and auditory candy! Just brilliant. I searched for a long time to find the DVD version with the correct “I just had to see you” ending. Graham teetering on the precipice of insanity. As Graham asks Jack Crawford who sits staring incredulously at Will finally starting to realize how similar Graham’s mind is to that of his serial killer prey “Does this type of thinking frighten you?” I wondered, after this would Crawford ever feel comfortable being alone with Graham again?
Normally these film analysis videos make me cringe with their overreaching and overanalyzing, but this was superbly done!
Stumbled across your channel recently and subscribed within minutes of starting one episode. Great work and great choice on this film. It's an underrated classic with a thick layer of delicious 80s cheese on top.
A pity it’s such a plot spoiler if someone stumbled across this before seeing the film but this was a really great study on one of my all time favourite films. A few takes on it that I hadn’t caught onto so it will make rewatch number 23 even better 🙂. It’s one of those films like the amazing ‘Jacob’s Ladder’ where you see something new each time you watch it. Great review, and even if the plot has been totally given away to you…. still worth a watch 🙂
Mann is a genius. Manhunter and HEAT are two of my top ten films ever. Manhunter stand head and shoulders above any Harris adaptation. Petersen should have been Oscar nominated for his portrayal of Graham. Noonan and Cox are terrifying as Dollarhyde and Lecter respectively. Red Dragon is the greatest serial killer book of all time. Riveting. Meticulous. Cannot put it down.
I absolutely love this film. It is mesmerising.
My coffee is ready! Great movie to analyse! I really like Michael Mann and in this movie did a masterful work.
A brilliant analysis!!! I'm a fellow Mann fanatic, so really appreciated this video...
We're called Mann-Boys, get it right!
When Graham and the others are trying to decode Lecter's reply to the Tooth Fairy, Graham mentions a time when lector gave authorities a recipe for potato chip dip when interrogated on the whereabouts of a victim. That's probably the only subtle hint of cannibalism in the whole movie!
I love this movie, I was just talking about it with a friend recently, then this pops up, very odd
Love your videos Matt Draper!
That was pretty friggin dope
Michael Mann getting all his credit and reputation for Heat is crazy to me when he's made Thief and Manhunter.
Horrible take
Great analysis, should be included on the Blu-ray!
Without a doubt one of Mann's best works. I watched Manhunter, Silence of the Lambs, Red Dragon, Hannibal ( movie & NBC series ) & Manhunter is my favorite. the cast of Petersen, Farina, Noonan, Greist, Lang , Allen is outstanding. from Crawford's unsubtle coaxing to Will's strong yet perilous relationship with Molly & Kevin, to the dialogue between Graham & Lektor, his loathing for Lounds. I really loved Brian Cox's portrayal of Lektor. just so unassuming in a terrifying way. could be your Neighbor, Mail carrier, Bartender. I remember Graham's response when Crawford asked why he was going to see Lektor " To recover the Mindset " & Lektor telling Graham " How did you catch me?....because we're just alike " & even though Fiennes was excellent as Francis Dollarhyde in Red Dragon, Noonan's portrayal was truly frightening. Graham & Dollarhyde were both seeing the same videos & images in ways that were so diametrical. to step into the mind of a serial killer in order to stop him, her, they is a journey that you never quite return from & that piece of you is lost forever. it's a great movie that far too often plays out in everyday life & I have the greatest appreciation for the people who work in that profession & the impact it can have on your Mental Health, Psyche, Family, Health, but we need those professionals as much as I hate to admit it.
That was a pleasure to watch and enriched my enjoyment of both the film and source material.
Great analysis
Incredibly timely! I've been comparing the performances of Brian Cox and Anthony Hopkins lately. I think I enjoy the gravitas of Cox's "Lecktor" a little better, but of course Hopkins's flamboyant sociopath is great. Both are imposing figures in very different ways. I love the tone and style of Manhunter most, no question.
Fan since I saw the Spider-Man Blue video when it came out (one of my favorites!), first time commenting. I'll follow this channel into the heat death of the Universe. Great job as always, Matt!
edit: oh shit i JUST saw that you made a video on Gerry Conway WOO
Thank you! Wow, that's a really long time to follow the channel! Glad you've been enjoying the videos. And Manhunter is so great!
@@MattDraper Thank you for the reply! It always makes me happy to see how, even as you've grown, you're no less committed to engaging with your fans. You're a terrific creator on all fronts and I hope to follow the channel as long as you're putting out the good stuff, which is all of the stuff. It's always great to see someone so impassioned about the niche-er comics, movies - hell, Peanuts soundtracks???? Keep it goin'!
How would you rate the performance of Mads Mikkelson in comparison to Hopkins and Cox as Lector?
I'm starting to think Cox might be my favorite, followed by Mikkelson and then Hopkins
@@evanrailman7898 Oh man, I haven't really sunk my teeth into Hannibal (get it???) yet. I've been aware of it for the longest time, I'm already a sucker for how creepy-artsy it looks, so I should sit down now with this whole quarantine situation happening.
I have, however, watched clips, specifically to get a sense of Mikkelsen's performance, and he plays such a good cerebral, calculating Lecter, as far as I can tell. Different beast to Cox and Hopkins, definitely. They all play Hannibal with a different sort of charm, and Mikkelsen is definitely the coldest and creepiest (again, as far as I can tell).
I think I might agree with your ranking.
@@yadielreyesuribarry5418 something I do love about different adaptations is the possibility for great different portrayals of the same character. I love them in different ways. Cox is so banal and ordinary in a way, and yet so terrifying, despite a relatively minor role. Hopkins was theatrical in such a larger than life unique manner . Mads is something else too. He has that cold, calculating, inhuman sociopath. LOVE THEM ALL
Just came home from the cinema, they showed it in 35mm. Really enjoyed and enjoyed your video a lot as well. Thank you!
This is the only channel who’s content really speaks to me and honestly just wish you can catch a break as a RUclipsr.
The best youtubers are almost always the smaller ones.
Thank you. Nicely informative and put together.
one of my fav movies of all time with an epic soundtrack as well
I hate to say it but Manhunter is actually better than the rest of the films and is the most faithful to the source material. The only thing that I'd say is better is the Jaime Gumm scenes from SOTL
I love Silence, so it's a tossup for me. Gumm is pretty fantastic, in the most horrifying sense, of course.
Who is Jamie gumm ?
Only seen this movie once, I regret giving away my DVD copy. Amazing video, great analysis, as always. Please continue doing videos on out of the ordinary movie choices, as well as comics etc
Great review. You should have mentioned the awesome sound and music. Else it was top notch.
These are excellent observations. Before Thomas Harris himself turned Lector into some sort of tragic almost heroic figure, he was the embodiment of great human intellect turned to psychopathy. The later superhuman qualities of Lector was a trap into the absurd. It made the later movies....comical in some ways. This movie is some ways was superior to the book.
Thank you for reminding me how awesome this film is, could you consider doing the Meryl Streep movies Plenty and French Lieutenant's Woman as well as Phantom of the Paradise and Rollerball( the original version with James Caan) and The Omega Man?
Phantom of the Paradise and Omega Man would be great topics for me!
No love for Meryl or Rollerball? I may be biased but along with A Clockwork Orange, Rollerball defines 70s Sci Fi movie making....
Really like the critique-i agree with the analysis
Watched the movie before watching your vid! Don’t know if I agree with every take or consider it a great movie, but it’s a damn good one and your video is still as enjoyable and well made as always!
Loved it!! Btw can u do more videos on Daredevil, specifically Season 2 and 3 of the tv show.
Thanks! There will be more DD, but I think that will wait until December. Planning on doing another month of DD videos.
What about the alternate cut? The one where Graham scares the next family that Dollarhyde chose for his next victims by visiting them in the evening just wantinf to "see them".
i thought i was dreaming Been along time since i seen it I ❤️ that ending more 🤗👏👏👏
Many thanks for this fantastic review.
MANHUNTER is the *only* film I like from the series of stories. I love the style, including the procedural parts.
Supremely nice work Draper.
Hell of an episode. Thanks for the content.
wow just in time. i was just about to watch this movie on Stan. love your videos and will definitely check this out when im done
Awesome! Great timing.
ManyThanx!!!! Brilliant Review And Film!!!
Manhunter and To Live and Die in LA really should have rocketed William Peterson to stardom. It’s crazy how Hollywood works
Hannibal the series has way more in common with Manhunter than Silence of the lambs. The way the show uses POV is very Mann influenced.
Omg Yesss Manhunter was my first ❤️An always thought Will Graham was a more interesting character then Claries An wish Thomas Harris wrote more about him. Then Hannibal the tv series came along an solved that problem for me.❤️ 🤗👏👏👏
In my top 10 films ever, thank you.
Great analysis and vid!
Saw this in the 80's when it came out. Have it on original DVD and Director's cut, (no spoiler, you got to see it) Still a favorite. FBI, going after the really, really bad guys. Read John Douglass books. He was a profiler with the FBI. This film is very similar to what they did in real life to capture true Evil in our society. This film will never outlive its purpose. Soundtrack is phenomenal. I hope you all like it as much as I do.
Great. I have been meaning to watch this film for a long time. I feel that it does not get enough credit and is overlooked because of Silence of the Lambs I believe Cox is more terrifying as Hannibal than Hopkins but that's just my opinion.
It’s a great watch, especially for fans of Michael Mann!
Tayo Jones, I completely agree. Hopkins seemed to try too hard to creep out whomever he was speaking to in SOTL. Cox didn't go for those theatrics. He already knew whomever he was talking to was well aware of what a monster he was. He didn't need to amuse himself. That's just my personal opinion/ how I saw it. Manhunter is an excellent film with a great cast, great visuals and the music/soundtrack is another key factor that really impressed me with this movie.
"...ina-gada-davita, honnay..." A BRILLIANT thriller!
What a great review and great film!
I have yet to see this version of Red Dragon! I watched the Hopkins trilogy, Hannibal rising, and the show series. I did not know this existed! Now I'm intrigued! I gotta watch this!
Never heard of this film, but am framiliar with the director through the film Heat, one of my favourite movies, so thank you, I am looking forward to watching!
Manhunter is a great, great film.
I saw Manhunter maybe five years ago and was blown away by it. It didn't feel like a movie made in 1986.
great video and analysis as always matt! you should do a video on mindhunter!
This is one of the first movies to go in depth with forensics and criminal profiling. It was a massive influence on realistic crime shows
The scene when Dollarhyde parks in front of Reba's house, waiting to meet her, and his actual look of joy when he sees her come home, only to get twisted when he sees her being escorted by their co-worker to her door...fuck. He knew she took rides home occasionally from co-workers, or usually by bus, yet he still goes full-psycho...the music and the lighting on his face...I shit you not, I've seen this masterpiece movie a zillion times since 1986 and you can see Noonan transforming before your eyes as he looks on from his van. Tortured. Brilliant movie. Silence of The Lambs is ok but Manhunter is the best.
The brutal irony of Dollarhyde's psychopathy is that he yearned to be seen in his victim's eyes, yet the only person who ever embraced and showed affection for him, even for a short amount of time, was a blind woman.
I love this movie so much. Incredible experience
Its an awesome flick. Probably you missed mentioning ''a character'' that played in the background - its music .. Do make a video on The Thief and a special mention of the music by Tangerine Dream. Thank you.
Brian cox as the Hannibal is super underrated in this movie.
I never got into this franchise but I see the fascination
Great video and a fine film.
"The Grand Canyon. Do you see?" "Oh god, I'm so bored!"
At the end of the Bantam ‘Hallowe’en’ movie paperback, there was an excerpt from Thomas Harris’s Red Dragon, which was exceptionally memorable. Then I found a copy of the novel (metallic red paperback cover) in a second-hand bookstore on Southsea pier, Portsmouth, UK. It is without doubt, one of the best, combining journalistic know-how with faultless research, and a horrible antagonist who is the product of a damaged childhood, a real page-turner. To discover there was a movie of it, and available on VHS, was one of the most syzygistic moments my life. It was with mounting disappointment however, that I watched the film, excellent though it is. It gives Dollarhyde no backstory and merely presents him as an aberration, fully formed.Brian Cox is excellent and the direction is faultlessly 1980s. The music is particularly well chosen.
Cox is simply terrifying
I'm amazed by how many people don't like this film. It's personally my favourite of the Mann films and the best of the Hannible lecter films. Direction, cinematography, music, acting everything is great about this movie. And all thought Tom Noonan's screen time is small he steals the show. Brian Cox's lecter is tje best of the lot too.
In these clips I spotted 3 actors from tv show Crime Story
This movie is so much better than the remake with Edward Norton.
I saw this movie in college during its theatrical release and I was mesmerized by the performances and the films attention to detail. William Peterson was coming off the equally brilliant To Live And Die In LA, and his performance is light years ahead of Ed Norton's surprisingly uninspired take on the Will Graham character. Silence of the Lambs gets all the pub, but this film is simply better in every way, shape, and form. Brian Cox plays Lector as a living, breathing human being whereas Hopkins' Lector is a cartoon character living in a cartoonish correctional facility. In terms of menacing characters, there is no viable comparison between Buffalo Bill and the Tooth Fairy. Tom Noonan oozes danger on both an emotional and physical (e.g., Noonan is 6'7") level whereas the Buffalo Bill character is depicted as being odd, unstable, and reclusive. I'm not a big fan of Top 10 lists, but I would rank Manhunter as 1 of my Top 10 favorite films.
You know. It’s really surprising that Red Dragon has Anthony Hopkins, Ralph Fiennes and Ed Norton but Manhunter I think is the better adaption of the book. I really don’t know why.
Because the script sucked mainly & Hopkins over did it. The only thing I liked about that movie was Ralph's performance
Amazing video! You have a new sub
3:52 I think the Brian Cox Manhunter Hannibal was a combination of both Hannibal and Garret Jacob Hobbs, a killer of college girls Will caught before Lecter in the book since Manhunter Lecter isn't a cannibal and killed college girls.They adapted Hobbs into the TV series as a man with an incestuous obsession with his daughter Abigail and he snapped when she was about to go to college so forced her to help him lure in girls who looked like her so he could kill them and convinced her he killed them so he wouldn't have to kill her, manipulating her into blaming herself for his murders to keep her with him. He also treated the bodies of the girls he killed like the dead deer him and Abigail hunted in his twisted belief that using all the body parts for different things meant it wasn't just murder.
Silence of the lambs , red dragon , hannibal- as Lecter says , 'Second - raters , the lot of them' movies that dont come close to Manhunter.
Thomas Harris writes such disturbing fiction
Such an amazing film!
Michael Mann really likes Comfortably Numb
Brian Cox was tremendous in the role.
a great watch thank you