Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness Pitch Meeting
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2022
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Marvel seems to going all-in with multiversal storylines in Phase 4 of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and with a title like Multiverse of Madness, the Doctor Strange sequel promised to bring us through some really wild alternate realities. And it did exactly that- for a few minutes!
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness definitely raises a few questions. Like what happened to all of Wanda’s character progression from Wandavision? Has she stopped caring about Vision? Did Reed Richards, the smartest man in the universe, really need to tell Wanda exactly how to kill Black Bolt? Are two Stranges throwing music notes at each other? Does believing in yourself really solve everything?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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"The multiverse is a concept of which we know frighteningly little" - The writers.
" discover every impossibilty " MY ASS
"Writing a script is a concept of which we know frighteningly little." - the Writers
“Maybe nobody will notice my bad writing…” - The Writer
Part of the problem is that the very idea of the multiverse is unimaginably vast.
For example, if there are an infinite number of universes then it could take an infinite amount of time to actually find the universe you want. Wanda could literally sift through an infinite number of universes where her children don't exist at all before she finds one where they do exist. There could be an infinite number of universes where Wanda doesn't exist an infinite number of universes where humans don't exist, an infinite number of universes where there's no life on earth, etc.
@@KingOfMadCows Is there a universe where this movie doesn't suck?
“Captain America?! He turned into Joe Biden” 😆 look forward to these Pitch Meetings as much as the films themselves
I died laughing at that line. I'm writing this from beyond the grave. ooOOOoOOH
And in some cases more than the films themselves!
Nailed it! 🎯
It's funny cause he's old.
TELL IT ANIMATED!! ONE AWESOME CHANNEL COMMENTING ON ANOTHER AWESOME CHANNEL?!!! WHAT IS HAPPENING
“She read an evil book and become evil”
“That’s why I don’t read”
Makes so much sense!!!!
Your name is true
@@rootcreator Username checks out
that line made me choke on my dinner. Laughed so hard.
Oh my God, I'm in trouble.
best line ever.
“America gets so scared by a bee that her moms disappear”
Never has a sentence been so confusing and yet completely accurate.
America Heard: My moms stepped on a bee... huuuuuhhgghgh
They’re gone, sir 😊😊😊
@@joeloutI knew someone's gonna make a reference to that.
@@joelout 🤣
Especially since you can only have one mom. That makes it even more confusing.
When America believed in herself my first thought was, "Actually it's going to be super easy. Barely an inconvenience." Ryan has trained us well.
I had that happen with Spider Man No Way home. Basically quoted pitch meeting verbatim in the theater "why didnt peter and doctor strange sit down and work out the details of the spell? So the movie can happen"
Studios are finally starting to understand!
@@pcguru3096 lol, I was like at the start of this movie just like "Why doesn't Wanda negotiate with America?" Then later Wanda brings up the point of having the infinite multiverse open to her if her children get infected with a disease that the multiverse could have a cure for "Wanda could have politely asked America to ask if she could adopt her, no abuse needed and she has one more than she bargained for"
@@gibbsterV I'm willing to suspend my disbelief with that.. She goes evil because of the darkhold. How Doctor Strange keeps from getting corrupted though I'd like to know
@@pcguru3096 that's the neat part: he doesnt
"And what about Captain Carter?"
"Fifty percent off!"
"Oh that's actually a pretty good deal!"
Lmfao Brutal.
Right, because of “half” 😂😂😂
I don’t get it !?!?
@@juniorbeaugosse8803 she was cut into half like a sliced bread...by her own shield
@@juniorbeaugosse8803 well she makes captain carter's shield go through her stomach cutting her in half, hence the 50% off
it's funny because it digs at the fact that captain Carter's use in the movie makes the most profit in the toy section and she also got sliced in two by her own shield sooo yeah... a double whammy of joke that is😂😂
"What about Captain Carter?"
"50% off!"
That had me laughing hysterically🤣!!!
Even though its supposed to be gruesome, it is hilarious.
I've seen too many of these movies, I know the formulas by heart now. As soon as the kid said she couldn't control it, my eyes rolled, knowing that there was going to come a key moment when she decided to believe in herself and magically it would all come to her command.
I never thought I’d see someone bragging about understanding how foreshadowing or character arcs work, but here you are…
@@MsDiving1 using Mad Libs to write a script isn't foreshadowing, it's just laziness.
@@MsDiving1 Thays no foreshadowing lol
its just writters being lazy and using old stereotype
🙈
@@MsDiving1 it's just a trope. A heavily used one at that.
It is absolutely foreshadowing.
“The smartest man in the universe told her exactly how to kill him”
“Hey shut up!” 😂😂
Underrated comment
the Reed Richards in that universe wasn't smart.
@@HVBRSoF ig that was his nexus event 😂
In WW2 some women and minorities even joined the army but in small amounts. Because in pearl harbour the black chef could not join the army but was still allowed near the battleship.
The royal canadian police and the first female police officer and fbi Where there way before 1931 so why is the officer in agent of shield so annoying.
They was even a female pilot at pearl harbour this scenario with agent carter was after 1941 is soo unrealistic
The royal canadian mountain police rge Us police investigators do not qualify as solder or the army even a movie in 1919 where 8 black person acused of murdering and gnipar** a person and she was allowed to be in the investigation that made headline event in 1870 a woman was allowed to run for president but agent carter is not allowed in the army cus she is british even if a black person who even need at the flag at a time where you had to stand where allowed or else I cannot thing any other reason.
She had she british flag so they treat her as british now this is even more confusing british people had privilege and is that so some women sneak in the army in ww1 and it is not leike they tricked the officer they even let people who looked 12 in the army so why is the army man and the police officer in agent of shield such annoying people
ps I know that what if has not happened yet but I was saying that since it was a super serum and he looked liek a 6 year old and they where somme women in the army, Either everyien over reacted because it was the 40s and aitue where different or nothing make sence like you would think that they woudl eb e some historical referance and the fact some women in the uk neaken in in the 18s you knwo what forgt abotu this.
Cameo baiting
"She read an evil book so that just undid all that and she's pure evil now."
"See? This is why I don't read."
Ryan's jokes are funnier than most comedy shows nowadays.
Yes. That's why I don't read comedy books and watch Pitch Meetings and Ryan's videos
lol yes
Marvel is really big on having all the character development occur offscreen these days.
Precisely.
I imagine it to be easier, since he is doing seperate takes, but hell, I would burst out laughing every time.
I love the addition of "Hey shut up" to the pitch meetings. I find myself waiting for it now and it cracks me up every time.
The inconsistent use of all the sorcerers' powers, especially Wong's and Strange's, was infuriating. Strange literally demonstrated he could wave his hand and chop off the tentacles of that eyeball creature and its like, "Yes, that's easy and effective, now do it more and poke out its eye, too." Wong is falling off a Cliffside helpless while he demonstrated earlier he can create portals midair and save himself easy. Also Wong helping Scarlett witch despite one of his own sacrificing themselves to destroy the book is horrible writing. The temple attack by the witch was the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Scarlett Witch was made out to be way too strong. At first I'm thinking the book made her stronger, but it didn't seem to do that for the corrupted dr. Strange as he couldn't save himself from a 15-second process of getting impaled. Just stupid. Dr. Strange can literally trap people in alternative dimensions where they fall powerless continuously as he did in Ragnorak, and he never did that to Witch or even used his portals to escape from her with America. Just baaaaad.
Yup, the power scaling or abilities were dumbfounded. It was mainly used as a convenience to drive the story forward. Neither Strange or Wanda's power are ever fully explained, and it bugs me how Strange is so OP with so many abilities, yet they make him extremely inferior to Wanda.
Minor nitpick: The reason why Wong couldn't just sling ring to save himself *was* actually established earlier, when he told Wanda that the Darkhold's temple prevents the usage of sling rings within a certain radius of it (which is why Wanda had to drag him over there manually once he teleported them as close as he could).
The established that for whatever reason, the portals could not reach the castle, which is why the teleported so far off
She is a woman.
"Didn't he turn into Joe Biden at the end of Endgame?" And "my brain releases fun chemicals because it knows things from stuff!" is some of Ryan's best work.
Every pitch meeting is some of his best work ! He really gets better and better each time a new video drops
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂... Biden joke was worth every emoji.
Things from stuff is tight
Wait, Is JoeBiden not the actual actor in old cap role.
@@nagcvlogs Nope he would have forgotten to bring the shield.
“And what about Captain Carter?“
“50% off!”
“Oh that’s actually a pretty good deal!“
I’m dead.
So is she 🤪
Rip comic cinema
You are? That's fatal!
@@gghelis Oh fatalities are tight!
@@MynjaBidniz beat me to it
“Hey shut up!” Is my favorite new addition to the special catchphrases
Wanda limps after them for ten minutes for some reason and then immediately flys away after the chase seen is over. Deep stuff.
"What about Captain Carter?"
"50% off!"
"Oh, that's actually a pretty good deal!"
XD I lost it at that part.
Was looking for this comment. 😆
50% off was an amazing line. =)
That's almost half
I like that joke 😆
I hope you find it
“50% off. Oh! Thats actually a good deal” had me dying 💀
Not unlike Peggy. ;)
Better call Saul. haha
Had her dying too.
@@wij2012Gaming 💀
You and her both...
thank you. after watching MOM I had to see someone agree with me on how stupid it all was, and the internet is full of praises, so I really needed the Pitch Meeting to keep me sane!
That’s been true of most of the MCU, and throw in most popular movies of the last 20 to 30 years (or dating even back to the mid 1980’s). The general audience’s critical faculties have disappeared, fans of pop culture content have taken over, and most current critics/reviewers have no gravitas (or again: good critical faculties), which coupled with the lack of strength they once had (yes, they were once important cogs in culture), we are where we are. To look at Rotten Tomatoes numbers you’d think nearly every film release is good to great! That then gets transferred to Wikipedia, so for as long as it lasts, people looking up this era’s movies will think that most every rotten piece of trash was really of high quality. Really sad. Long gone are the days when even pictures like Doctor Zhivago and The Sound of Music were largely trashed (even if ending up making more money than most films in history…but those were unusual exceptions to the rule that pictures that had mediocre reviews were not hits. Alien from a decade later was the same, a hit that was bombed. Today that’s not all the case of course). Video series like Pitch Meeting, Everything Wrong With…, and Honest Trailers should help cause the popularity of the kinds of movies they review and take down lose their caché (even if that’s not the actual intent of these video makers….I would hope it is, but who knows), but no one really cares if movies and tv series make sense or not nowadays.
@@pauldavidartistclub6723 yeah this film really wasn’t that enjoyable for me. It wasnt really fun and it felt a bit confusing for a “dumb MCU film” like it’s one of those stand alone films so it’s not really supposed to be so confusing like an avengers movie that ties things together or one which has big stakes and requires more plot. Having just watched Thor Love and Thunder earlier I have to say I enjoyed it much more, easier to follow, funnier, sad at times.
I really like the movie. My favourite Marvel character is Wanda and Lizzy did a very good job portraying her. Could have been a better movie? Definitely. But I still enjoyed it very much.
@@pauldavidartistclub6723 How dare people like things! Everyone should be cynical and hate everything all the time!
No law people should like junk, or that junk dictates what becomes made for others@@lenkagamine4145
For me the worst part of the movie was giving Bruce Campbell's character such a hard time, he got stolen from, said you gotta pay for that, then logically presumed Dr Strange had stolen from the museum,(the cape) and wanted to stop him and then gets punished for essentially stopping 1 actual thief and another alledged one by being forced to slap himself silly for the next 2 weeks like he was some bad guy criminal =/
Groovy
That "Hey shut up" after he points out how weird it was for Reed to tell Wanda exactly how Black Bolt works was hilarious!
I was just about to say that lol
I don't remember in which pitch meeting Ryan said it but he said "Hey you can do one thing you can shut up about that thing!"
That delivery was epic 🤣
Yeah haha why would a nice person try to talk down the Scarlet Witch so an innocent Wanda doesn’t have to be murdered that’s so weird of him lol
😂That’s gold
The writing in this movie was dreadful lol. Raimi deserved better.
When I watched the move, I predicted the "Super easy barely an inconvinience" to be in reference to America Chavez being able to use her power instantly after she's told to believe in herself. I'm so happy!
Wait, so is this a game now? Go into a movie and guess what part of the movie the “super easy, barely and inconvenience” catchphrase is going to be talking about? 😂
@@jonathanmette8348 yeah yeah yeah
Wow wow wow...... wow
@RD3 it sure is, sir!
We've trained you well 👏
Very accurate pitch meeting lol.
My biggest questions/concerns from the movie were this:
How is Wanda existing in other realities with her made up children anyway? They weren't born biologically. Why doesn't she search for Vision, who is actually real? Also, I think the plot would have been 10x more consistent with Wanda Vision if they had the Darkhold messing with her mind and led her to believe that her kids existed in another universe and were in danger (which we were led to believe at the end of Wanda Vision as they scream "Mom, Help!") I didn't like how they made her a sadistic, bat-shit crazy lunatic who will kill just to see her kids. They already had a mom in their universes, they weren't in any danger so there was no urgency. The writers dropped the ball on that big time.
The kids were only "made up" in the main MCU universe. The other universes Wanda's had actual children. As for the rest, yes, agreed entirely. She basically went from "I made a mistake, but I'm working through my issues" at the end of WandaVision to "I'm going to steal the kids from another Wanda in another Universe, and I'll just brutally murder literally anyone who tries to stop me" Like they completely disregarded any of the actual character growth that happened through WandaVision and turned her into a 1-dimensional villain. The worst part is that the whole reason they did this to her is quite likely just because she has gotten so powerful that it would make writing her in to future Avengers/team-up movies kind of difficult, but even then they could have done something other than trashing her character and then killing her off..
@@Astraeus.. see heres the thing they could have used her to properly set up the x men since in 1 of the timelines her outbreak sends the omega wave through te that creates the mutants but granted with the multiverse open and we already have seen another wanda no one says fully dead in this universe really
@@Astraeus..
It's o.k., they can just pull a replacement Wanda from an alternate timeline/universe.
@@Astraeus.. how could the kids look the same then if main Wanda made them up before having seen her other universe's kids?
@@MadDunhill Because that's how they looked in other universes and so it just put a copy and paste version from them onto hers.
I’m surprised he didn’t talk about the memory store. You could dedicate an entire pitch meeting to that car crash of an idea.
Yeah, was the first one free, or something? Why was it outside? That's pretty public and embarrassing. If you pay, do you get to pick the memory? Why was it edited from a third-person perspective?
"THEY'RE ALL FROM THINGS!!!" I could not stop laughing at this.
Spotting things from other things is tight.
The irony of the Thing not being in the thing is a thing now.
..............................
I was waiting for, "Oh that's why we bought FOX.”
@@WrensthavAviovus that would've been too obvious.
I’m so excited for this! A movie about one actor playing two characters that look identical but have different personalities, its so crazy!
So... This video then? Ryan, basically?
MOON KNIGHT?
Things like that do trigger fun chemicals in my brain
@@jessehcreative No. One of the guys in this video has glasses. Completely different people
Could you imagine if they interacted with each other? That would truly be insane!
At this point, a Dr. Strange rap battle would have made just as much sense as everything else. That's when you know you have bad writing. Seriously, a rap battle could have perfectly fit in this movie.🎤
I say breakdance battle
This channel really is the best way to enjoy the post-Endgame MCU - and in a fraction of the time it would otherwise take! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
"And what about Captain Carter? "
"50% off"
The way he says this so casually is just insanely funny😂
He mentions exactly those things I was wondering about: why only a few other universes, why is Wanda suddenly evil (again), what about Vision, why doesn't the girl search for her parents, ...
@@barbaraseeberger4587 I'm guessing her kids mattered more to her.
@@barbaraseeberger4587 Not trying to explain everithing, but maybe she stays learning magic, so maybe she can learn how to better control, her powers, or have an alternate means of looking for them. But hey, what do I know. Just trying to help.
Wow wow wow.... Wow!
J bet that went over more than 50% viewers heads
“They have a musical fight!”
“Ohhhhh, like a rap battle?”
Made me laugh harder than expected
The way they used the music was really well done IMO, but damn, I want Evil Dr. Strange and Dr. Strange rap battle now.
If you'd like to see epic showdowns handled with rap battles I'd suggest the series Legion! It happens in the third season and I did not see that coming 😆
We need an Epic Rap Battles of the Multiverse now!
@@PitchMeetings EpicLloyd and Nice Peter are you seeing this?
Rap battle would turn this movie into a Disney princess movie. The formula is perfect since we also have a damsel in distress (America) and evil witch (Wanda)
"Captain Carter, Maria Rambo, Bolt, Professor X, Reed Richards from Fantasic Four....
Ahhh, they're all from things!!" 😂😂
„Tell me about her charakter development“
„I just did!“
LMAO
Reed Richards and Prof. X had some of the most blatant "hold for applause" cameos I've ever seen
Too bad. My cinema was completely empty 😂
@@yuliangeorgiev ha, same!
Yeah I only watched the clip of that scene but I was trying to understand why she threw her shield in a show boat kind of way when she is supposed to be a member of an esteemed council. And why wasnt prof x there when they brought Strange in??
The X-Men theme made me giggle a little bit.
@@Thespeedrap Just about to comment how on the nose/begging an audience pop for remembering that "thing"...
"Oh and they're all from things!" "They sure are sir" "Oh boy, sometimes I recognize thing, and my brain releases fun chemicals." Might be one of the funniest exchanges so far. Love it.
Accurately portrays roughly 70% of the Disney planning process.
Not just fun, but wicked true. The fun chemicals mean that they can rely on me to surrender cash time and again, movie after movie.
Also a scientifically accurate description of why movies do that in the first place.
"It's called Dr. Strange in the Multiverse of Madness."
"Oh boy, I bet we'll see a lot of whacky multiverses."
"You know it!"-
"Oh boy!"
-"Briefly."
"What."
“Sometimes I recognize things, and my brain releases fun chemicals that cause me to want to spend money on nonessential things!” Lol
The most incredulous part of the movie is two lesbians naming their kid “America”
“The hey shout up “ gets me every time 😂
"Yeah, the power was inside her all along... or whatever" Love it.
He wanted to say cliche but didn't want to be sued by cinema sins
That infuriated me. Like they could've AT LEAST had Dr. Strange get inside her mind, and say time is slow in there. Than have like a training montage or something in like one second while everything is going outside. That would've been cool, but no, Sam Raimi had to ruin it. Stupid nonsensical power change like spiderman.
Ok...
"Sometimes I recognize things, and my brain releases fun chemicals" I'm using that whenever I get the chance
Oh, your brain releasing fun chemicals is tight. Isn't that right, brain?
Me watching marvel in general
its called nostalgia you should look it up if this is your first time lmao
@@kontrolleti7189 Yes, I know what nostalgia is. I'm not sure what gave you the impression that I didn't
Hell yeah!
I think Wanda's obsession with her kids, the only people she cared about that weren't "real" (as opposed to Vision or her brother Quicksilver) was a very specific indicator that she was being controlled/manipulated by the 'evil book'. It specifically used her own delusion (made real) as a lever in her mind. I think the book was the real villain of the movie, and Wanda was a cross between a victim and a (very powerful) puppet/tool.
The Cap turn into Joe line is pure gold HAHAHA
We need a Moon Knight Pitch meeting! A show about 2 characters talking to each other played by the same actor?! This thing writes itself!
I couldn't agree more
Between Moon Knight and the Multiverse of Madness, it seems that Disney is now stealing ideas from the Ryanverse!
Some might argue that Back to the Future II did it first, but obviously what happened is that someone took a downloaded copy of a Pitch Meeting compilation, put it on VHS, then went back in time and showed it to the producers of BTTF.
And Moon Knight was in costume maybe 10 minutes total.
@@xzero422 The first season was basically his origin story, and non-stop costumed fights becomes boring fast.
I'm surprised he didnt mention the horrible fact that the Wanda that was being controlled would have to be left in her universe to face the consecuences of the things the other wanda did. Actually I'm surprised the movie itself didnt adress this, like "oh yea Wanda, dont worry, the kids will be loved n.n unless I get in trouble, or put away, or hunted for killing Earth's mightiest heros or something :D"
Fastforwarding to the outro without watching any of the rest of the video is TIGHT.
His face when he said “They’re all from things!” 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Things from other things are tight
I don't get this joke, can someone explain?
@@ethanium9280 Those superheroes are from "the things" means other movies like X-Men, fantastic four, Captain Marvel, etc.
Ryan also says that when we see familiar stuff, make our brain release chemical stuff like dopamine which makes us happy.
@@ethanium9280 the joke is that all the characters are references to/cameos from other marvel IPs. it's abusing a "hey look it's X" response from people, which Ryan is making fun of. Another great "they're all from things!" example would be Rogue One (and indeed, all of the disney star wars works) which lean heavily into this as part of their appeal.
Wanda: tries to destroy the multiverse for kids that never existed.
Also Wanda: "Who is this Quicksilver person? Vision? Never heard of 'em."
And her actual PARENTS
Elizabeth said something along the lines "when you become a parent, that's the first thing on your mind" and that she would probably go for the others next.
It is rather inconsistent for Wanda to continue in this movie and not give much thought about finding Vision if she could go through the whole multiverse lol just her kids but not the love of her life
Well I mean, she already grieved them and moved on. Twice, in Vision’s case. But more importantly, they’d probably never go along with her plan, so that option’s off the table.
@@helenejapa but....
She wasn't a parent; she was delusional with mind controlling, reality altering powers. Delusional kids can't be a justification, unless the person is purely insane enough to know that they were delusions (because she has discussed them with several characters) and still act that way. It is the same thing as a person breaking the multiverse for an invisible friend they made up as a kid, except my hypothetic situation, there would probably be a vast amount of time spent with the figments during childhood, as opposed to her tiny stint. Personally, I dislike the writing here, for those reasons.
Comment on another MOM video - ruclips.net/video/wbUb5-JYw7U/видео.html - 838 Doctor Strange should have been the one fighting this Wanda
0:38 "They're GONE, sir. 😁" ROFL
Wish he mentioned the part where the sorcerers were ready to give their lives to save the girl and the world. Then after 3 seconds of Wanda making his buddies feel uncomfortable the alpha sorcerer is like "OK I will tell u where the temple is" so the plot can progress
Infinity War all over again.
Ikr, or how they make it seem like stealing americas ppwer is super easy barely an inconvenience but wanda stalled long enough for dr strange to fight his evil self find a page with a convenient spell from a book he never read, reincarnate the dead, fight evil spirits and then learn to controll those evil spirits and wanda still hasnt taken the power. yet
yea not very noble he could have sacrificed himself
Yeah and just like the movie, he didn’t mention her twin brother either.
If you have to pretend that "torture" is the same as "feeling uncomfortable" to make a smart remark ... that should kind of warn you.
As for how significant three seconds can be: well, you can find that out by sticking your hand into a candle flame for three seconds.
This is one of Ryan's best Screen Pitches ever. There are so many rapid one-liners. The bizarre logic of the studio producer and the screenwriter bouncing non-sensical ideas off each other while ignoring the main issues of the plot ("Doesn't Wanda want to be with Vision?" "No." "Isn't America going to look for her Moms?!" "Oh yeah!... no") hits too close to home. This is comic genius.
FINAL JOKE (Reed Richards actor)
@@darrengordon-hill Brilliant.
Eh, I say the Fantastic Beasts pitch meeting was funny as hell :)
"Isn't America going to look for her Moms?!"
I actually completely forgot that was even a plot point lol
@@darrengordon-hill kevin feige giving into the fan theory channel's demands instead of focusing on wanda and dr strange is actually super easy, barely an inconvience
Wow. Even the Pitch Meeting for MoM forgot the entire moral of "Are you Happy?" that everyone kept on asking Doc throughout the whole thing.
I loved the "Are you happy?" moments and the watch-fixing. They were telegraphed well and managed to hit me in the feels. But thinking about it for five seconds, I couldn't tie that theme to any real characterization. What did that actually mean for Dr. Strange going forward? It was a well-done trope on its own, but all it amounted to was the best potato in the turd soup.
@@41-Haiku Agreed--super interesting character beats that don't seem to have actually mattered in the end.
Please do a pitch meeting on:
#1 - The Room
#2 - Birdemic: Shock and Terror
#3 - Battlefield Earth
“The power was inside her all along, or whatever.” -Perfect encapsulation of Hollywood’s attitude
90% of movie plots.
not just hollywood. That’s for sure
What if we told people it's okay to strive and improve themselves and seek out things that they lack or fix issues that they might have? You know, grow?
@@bad-people6510 What if we told people that MCU and most scriptwriters are the worse guidance counsellors on earth and maybe if you got nothing good/novel to write on the matter then just stick to entertainment and tell a good story?
There has to be some version of Wanda's children living awful lives with no one to take care of them. America was one pep talk away from being able to use her abilities. Had Wanda trained her instead, they could have found that universe and rescued orphan versions of her kids. And sure, something might happen where they get sick or something, but she has the ability to send messages across the multiverse, had she made America her bestie, if anything happened, she could have just messaged America and gotten help. That book must have made her stupid evil because there were so many better ways to do this than killing a kid and another version of yourself.
You’ve actually hit the nail on the head here. They introduced the Darkhold in the Agents of Shield TV series, and it is a book that basically reads you back. It then tells you how you can achieve your highest goals and meet your deepest desires so that you are seduced by it completely, but the outcome is always disaster and death. And even when you see that those you love are being hurt and dying, you justify it and keep on doing what the book says. So yes, stupid evil.
@@theladyamalthea Exactly! Which I think should have been explored more. Would have been nice to at least have a flashback of her decent into what she was. It is a truly evil book, it destroys all it can, including the reader.
I agree. More emphasis should have been put on the book corrupting her, making her "stupid evil" as you say. Bc the logical thing would've been what you suggested, and the wanda that took down the hex would've known that.
Wow, the possibility of an incursion that could have introduced the xmen to the mcu
Gonna need you to get alllllllll the way off my back on this one.
Hey, remember that cool scene where they travel to a different dimension and then have to go through all those other, weird dimensions and it makes people vomit? Yeah, that happens only once. After that going to other dimensions is like walking through a door.
I rewind so much it takes me closer to 10 more mins then the video 😅. You doing amazing mate
1:34 I love how the screenwriter Ryan is replying instantly and with unyielding confidence. It goes to show that he really knows what he's doing.
That's why he's the successful screenwriter and I'm unemployed. The job is not as easy as it looks.
@@peterg76yt you are doing something wrong because its super easy, barely an inconveniance
@@peterg76yt Just go to any workplace and say I work here now I decided
The writer seems to give in less to the producer's wishes or concerns....he's like "Nope, sorry!"
The writer Ryan is now gloves off, he is done with asking to get ALL THE WAY off his back.
When Wanda just crushed the mages in like 2 minutes I thought "super easy, barely an inconvenience".
Also when she killed the Illuminati too. I was like "can't wait for a Pitch Meeting on this" because Wanda's entire storyline was her killing superheroes in a way that was "super easy, barely an inconvenience"
That's what happens when the second and third most powerful Avengers fight and Thor's not there to make them sit down and shut up.
She was being reasonable
the whole movie is like that Meme "when you fight the boss vs when he's on your team"
LMAO - Same ... It's funny how the Pitch Meeting is always running in my mind when watching movies now.
Yeah that's the point. With characters like Wanda who is too OP, the challenge isn't learning to control her powers anymore. It is to grow and accept the things she can't control.
Favorite part of this whole video when he tells him shut up after the reed richard part literally everyone probably was thinking why tf would he just tell Wanda something so important like that
2:26 is the perfect advice for anyone on how to enjoy Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness. It does have many flaws, but its measure of success should be how much *fun chemicals* it releases in your brain.
“Sometimes i recognize thing and my brain releases fun chemicals”
I have never related more to a sentence in my life.
lol its Dopamine
Considering most big movies these days try to make it by on dopamine spikes alone..... I enjoy the MCU..... But they are relying too heavily on this. And the movies are suffering for it. I love a cameo or an Easter egg but they shouldn't be a focus of the movie making process. Having a cameo is like having a plot twist..... Don't do it unless it actually serves or advances the plot.
“This is why I don’t read” 😂😂
Reed*
@@HayabusaRyuu *red
Imagine Dr. Strange has an epic rap battle of history with evil Dr. Strange
this format never gets old...keep em coming😉
"I thought we had her work through all that in wandavision" THANK YOU! I thought I was crazy because I was the only one who noticed she was acting super inconsistently
Actually, most people have a counterpoint to that.
@@dylansharp8471 yeah I know "the evil book magically turned her evil" and "the woman who would sacrifice her entire family including her kids to save people will now unnecessarily kill so many people and say it's to get her kids back" both things I've heard and aren't really good explanations, the darkhold excuse is especially egregious because that literally happens off screen and only serves as a boring way to make a complex grieving character completely one dimensional
@@risky_busine55 I feel like Wanda didn't really 'give up her family' till she got fucking caught and Agatha and SWORD started fucking shit up in Westview. There is an active period of time where Wanda knew what she was doing, knew she was hurting people (pretty sure vision literally told her that the people of Westview were suffering) and the mf literally kept going. Again it wasn't until Agatha and SWORD entered the picture that Wanda reluctantly decided to set the people of Westview free and even then she refused to face recompenses for her crimes and up and left to go read a book she knows is fucking evil (potentially the most evil shit in the universe) in a desperate attempt to find anyway (moral or immoral) she could get her family back without being caught/stopped. So yeah I guess we interpreted the ending of WV different but to me Wanda was already waaaaaay gone after she knowingly hid all the children of Westview in a basement and tortured the adult population.
@@jexe.4821 Saying she knew what she was doing is a bit of a stretch, especially given how she reacted to what vision was saying and how she reacted later, if anything it seemed way more like she didn't realise quite how bad it was for the people in westview because she both didn't actually understand the extent of what happened until Agatha straight up explains it to her, and even then doesn't actually believe her and when vision brings it up because it goes against what she already thinks she did. When she is confronted with actual evidence that is hurting people it hits her like a ton of bricks and she has to process it (because ofc she's gonna need time to process the idea of killing the only people she has left) before she can fix what she did (at which point she does and in the process sacrifices the family that's all she has left). it's a portrayal of grief and how that can cause you to hurt the people around you even if you don't realise it and also how focusing on your own grief at the expense of others can lead to harm you never meant, that's like the whole point of the story, it's about how people who are hurt and don't have the ability to deal with it can end up lashing out whether they mean to or not and if you're gonna say that she only took down thehex cuz she 'got caught' that's also kinda bullshit cuz by the time she took down the hex she'd already beaten Agatha and sword so what were either of them going to do? Also she'd known about sword for ages by that point so saying she only stopped cuz of sword and Agatha makes no sense unless you're talking about how Agatha revealed what the extent of Wanda's spell was. Now for the darkhold: Wanda knows very little about the book, she knows that Agatha read the book and that Agatha knows about all this scarlet witch stuff ergo it makes way more sense that Wanda wanted the book to figure out what the fuck is up with all this scarlet witch shit. If you're gonna say there's little consequence for her sure I'll grant you that the MCU in general has had very little consequence for its heroes, iron man was literally an arm's dealer responsible for the deaths of thousands, created Ultron who killed a bunch more people, and sure you can talk all you want about the ppl he's saved but that's not the same as accountability. You could argue that Wanda would want to find her family in another universe at this point, but like not only does that completely undercut the whole grief arc in wandavision, but it's also like not an explanation for her deciding to kill just everyone when she can literally just send this kid a message saying "hey can u help me find a universe where my kids and husband are alive so i can be with them? Idk I just feel like ppl really wanna see Wanda as crazy or a villain because she appears that way in a bunch of comic appearances but the legwork to her her there just hasn't been done, not to mention it still doesn't change the fact that she's the most flatly written character in the movie
@@risky_busine55 yeah I guess I understand where you're coming from. I agree that WandaVision was about greif, but I really just think that greif drove wanda insane - or at a bare minimum made her easily manipulable, first by Agatha and then by the darkold. If you were a massive fan of wandavision I understand why Wanda being just so comically evil in DS2 might be frustrating, but I think it works well enough for the purpose for the story, and semed to me the logical next step after WV ended with her alone in a cabin reading a book of unsightly evil. I also would have liked a more in depth exploration of wanda in DS2 aswell, but I don't think wanda being the villan was inconsistent, just poorly built up to. Man that film needed more runtime.
The Audience: fighting the illuminati will be tough
Wanda: actually, it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience
wow wow wow...wow!
- "What happens to Mr. Fantastic?"
"Spaghetti."
- "Ooh! Fantastic spaghetti is tight!"
"Sure is!"
@@roger632 😅
@@LuisSierra42 lol I read that in Ryan's voice
If they were actually written correctly they would've defeated her. But we got the dumbest man in the room. Professor X that decides to join in too late and team mates that just watch their other mates die first before intervening... Fml
Love these videos. These things seem so obvious when watching this compared to watching the film. Obviously my brain doesn't work this way. I'd like to see one of these for an 80s classic, like Preditor. See how old and new films compare when done this way.
Sometimes it's difficult to figure out which incredibly convenient moment will illicit a "Super easy; barely an inconvenience."
The real quick "hey shut up" at 3:08 tho. Masterfully done
I missed that, lol
“Weeeeell, he’s only the smartest man is *HIS* universe, which is not really bright to begin with…” Best Take I’ve ever heard 😂
and men only live on earth, so he's not even the smartest in his universe, just his planet
@@Cristopher_C reed richards in the comics was indeed the smartest man in the universe. closely followed by doctor doom and the starks
@@SreedharPrabhu yup, thats what I said. also that saying "the smartest man IN THE UNIVERSE" is like irrelevant when 99.9% of men live in a single planet, just say "the smartest man on earth" of course of the universe, idiot, there arent many of us in the rest of the universe. or at least if he was the smartest sentient lifeform in the universe now that would be something, but no, just the smartest man
Smartest man ever and his solution to stop Wanda was to reach out to her with one hand.
Hilarious! You actually remind me of a marketing director I used to work for, even the mannerisms. Lol
The statement throughout the movie "we have to protect America" will never stop being hilarious to me 😂
I know it's from the comics but thats such a stupid choice for a name
So Wanda was a terrorist?
I'm surprised he didn't throw in a joke about the 'Ugly Betty' actress.
I fucking hate those lines.
It's so dumb. Who in the right mind would name their kid/character "America". Genuinely awful.
@@Bayoll The continent was named after a guy called "Americo"
I love how he completely ignored Mordo, just like how the movies have sidelined him from having any way to be relevant in future films
Absolute joke.. waste of time seeing him in trailers/ movie. They fell into a pit, fought, then Dr Strange literally jumped like Jackie Chan meanwhile Mordo is stuck down there???? never to be heard from again. Absolute joke
@@vince2nd It was so ridiculous.. He literally jumped across the room when he started attacking Strange then when they fell down there, Strange showed him how to jump out but he can't do anything but yell at him? Why? Coz it will ruin his dress? =_=
@@vince2nd shut up
@@andraes9684 shut up
It’s like Marvel is trying so hard not to be predictable that they ruin their own stories
:35 that sentence out of context is a wild ride, it's fantastic 😂
Hilarious, Is barely an inconvenience. From watching the movie serials from the thirties and forties From Tom mix and hop along Cassidy to the original series of zorro or the shadow Every kid understood " Barely an inconvenience". You talked all week with your friends about how they were going to get out of that cliff hangar but you went next Saturday knowing they would get out of it lol. Using, barely an inconvenience, As a plot device in a modern adult movie, You have to fight to keep from laughing in the theater. We used to cheer but I'm not 6 years old anymore. The way you Present it is hilarious and spot on. I have been tempted to use the phrase, Is barely an inconvenience, In my everyday language however however I do not wish to sound like a tacky Hollywood writer. Keep this up I love it. By the way there's a lot more suspense in a regular guy going over a cliff in a wagon Then some modern actor actor dressed in a super suit With super powers Going over a cliff in a wagon and they can't figure out, With super powers, How to get out of the predicament.🤣😅😂😆
"They're all from things! Sometimes I recognize thing and my brain makes fun chemicals!" Damn if this doesn't summarize the current state of """writing""" for successful franchises nowadays then I don't know what does. Ryan nailing it as always
This is why I didn't like spiderman nwh
@@chiedzawith2ds
It was way more than just "fanservice".
@@dylansharp8471 yeah that was too much
"successful". hollywood has run out of ideas
@@chiedzawith2ds Pretty sure they were saying there was way more to the movie than mere fanservice. Which is correct. The fanservice is fun, but the emotional narrative is what makes the movie good. Remove Andrew and Tobey and there’d still be a very good movie.
The idea of casting reed richards was absolute genius
Can you elaborate, John Krasinski was literally a fan casting
@@superninja493
At the end of the video the screen writer does Jim halpert’s iconic shrug
@@superninja493 he is talking about the pitch meeting bruv
To bad he wasn't very genius-y
@@djsonicc yeah, they disappointed me too.
"50% off!"
"That's actually a really good deal!"
Not for her.
The power was inside her all the long, and she wasn't even wearing red ruby slippers!
They "HeyShutUp" at 3:05 is comedy gold and perfectly encapsulates the logic governing the MCU at this point.
😂 cause writing something that made sense would have been too much work and money
@@Darkness-ie2yl disagree. Writers everywhere and thousands of comics, that they could use as a basis...they could probably just hire Ryan which would cost less than replacing Vin diesel with a Groot voice impersonator
@@Darkness-ie2yl And why do you think that this scene doesn't make sense? Regardless of how smart Reed is, he can't possibly know that our Wanda is currently the strongest version of Wanda in all universes. She was already strong enough to go ham on Thanos in Endgame and then she got amped by the Darkhold (Chthon). Even if Black Bold managed to attack it would have likely made no difference to the outcome of that "fight".
@@akselmani stephen already told them she was coming and that she was a problem. you dont have to be a genius to not reveal to any opponent a single word, pun intended, about your strategy. heck it would have been a better scene if they just let him scream at her and she manages it skillfully anyway.
@@Darkness-ie2yl And they have 0 reasons to believe anything Dr. Strange says. Also, the issue with smart people is that they get complacent and arrogant. He was trying to avoid the conflict with a threat but he couldn't have imagined they are dealing with a top shelf near god level power. If she skillfully avoided the attack there wouldn't have been a great one-liner - you can't have both.
It's called "Multiverse of Madness" because those initials spell "Mom" and the movie is really about Wanda wanting to be a mom.
I wonder if it's intentional or a happy accident
Oh shit, i didn't even notice that. Thanks man
Doctor strange in mom
The baby, the baby, the baby, the baby...
@@Revalopod "There are no accidents." -Master Oogway
Smartest man in the universe attacking Wanda head on without any technological backup plan. Me fetching my oven pan without mitts lol 😂😂😂
3:05 THANK YOU
OK, I[m not the only one who wondered “Can’t she find a universe where Wanda just died, so she can slip in and take her place without anyone suffering”.
But this way the movie can happen!
Rick and Morty has the right attitude regarding multiverse: if there is an infinite amount of universes, you can just hop into one that suits your needs.
Wanda says in the movie she wants to have Americas powers herself incase something we’re to happen to her kids.
Yeah, but she would still need to get powers from Chavez, since Chavez can't control her powers.
If you spend too long in another universe an incursion happens
The “they’re gone sir” made me laugh so hard, my wife came in from another room because she though I was sobbing.
When America Chavez punched Scartlet Witch in the face & opened a portal to a lava dimension, Wanda was standing on the edge of that cliff acting as if she's gonna fall down. I mean, SHE CAN FLY!! WHY IS THAT A THREAT?!
When Strange shut the last door & Wanda didn't breakthrough rightaway, they stopped to wait for her to catch up. WHY?! Just for a dumb jumpscare?!
"Oh, they're all from things!" was hilarious 😂
I'm still wondering why no one in the movie ever brings up that Sling Rings can access the Multiverse, something established in Doctor Strange.
Mordo's exact line is: _"Mastery of the sling ring is essential to the mystic arts. They allow us to travel throughout the multiverse."_
Because they wanted America Chavez to be the macguffin. :0
If i had to guess they can only use the multiverse as a tunnel , not breach the wall between them
@@NoKrAzYz they couldve at least established that
Obviously, that's before they established what they wanted to do with the multiverse. That said, what it's probably intended to mean is other dimensions like the mirror dimension or the dark dimension, not parallel universes.
Unfortunately, they really love throwing the word multiverse around, even if they mean different things by it.
@@BleachFan2588 THIS
2:49 he could have said it like. ... With a whisper....
And Wanda replies... Can he? Would have the same result but without the awkward dialogue
You know,
Everything,Everywhere: All at once ,
Is a true multiverse movie for me.
“And what about captain Carter?”
“50% off.”
“That’s a pretty good deal.”
“Hey, shut up” is a hilarious escalation of “I’m gonna need you to get all the way off my back…” and I hope it becomes a new (occasional) catchphrase
You just keep getting better with these.
This movie may have been better as a mini series - looked they were trying to be as grusome as The Boys. It also felt like a direct to DVD movie en the sense of so much green screen, where they cut and the actors jump mid-air to act like the just landed in the frame - killing all momentum they have have had moving in the previous CGI shot. Also Wanda limping down a hallway do doors she cuts like butter, but is seen flying throughout the entire film - why not just fly to catch up faster..Then once I saw who directed it, it kind of made sense, but then had me wonder how much influence or control does one director have over an entire huge budget, franchise film. Ridley Scott seems to have good control, or James Cameron of their film's universe, but then again comics can be pretty crazy. I'm not one to write long comments, but I was a fan of the 1st Dr Strange film, at he's also my father's favorite super hero, so I wish they put a little more respect on the story. Though I've never read the comics idk if 'The Illuminati" or "America" come off as corny as in the film. Just call her by her full name, honor the Chavez in 'America Chavez' or else it feels like they're force feeding you the American propoganda I always get tastes of in Disney/Marvel productions. System of disbelief is a mother-
There has never been a more accurate pitch meeting that perfectly encapsulated my issues with the entire movie. Excellent job Ryan
Except a bunch of what he said in this pitch meeting was wrong.
He forgot that main Mordo has apparently been trying to kill Strange, but we never see any of it.
I was hoping he'd make a joke about not having a clue what's happening in Dr Strange 2 if you didn't watch a tv show about Wanda. That was one of my biggest complaints, I don't watch the tv shows.
@@kari2570 the only thing the wanda TV show explained was that Wanda was going to be evil. And that was at the very end of the show. You didn't miss much
@@poisonpotato1 I mean it also introduced her kids, which are kind of a big plot point here.
4:11
"like a rap battle?"
I WANT IT
i don't think we can blame DSMOM for it considering-
1-it was supposed to be prequel to NWH with Chavez even in concept art of NWH until Covid reversed it
2-Phase 4 's film schedule was not well planned and cramped up and very much rushed plus they had no idea how to move forward after Endgame the crescendo
3-Due to these two reasons , Raimi was unable to watch WandaVision
4-The review aggregator website Rotten Tomatoes reported an approval rating of 73%, with an average score of 6.5/10, based on 460 reviews. The website's critical consensus reads, "Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness labors under the weight of the sprawling MCU, but Sam Raimi's distinctive direction casts an entertaining spell." with 85% from audience
Bro the movie was ass
I don't get why America's powers are so unique. No Way Home already showed that Dr. Strange can create multi-dimensional portals. He can send the other Peters back to their original worlds, what makes America's powers different?
The one thing that stuck out to me is that it didn't seem like Vision was in any of the other universes.
I was more confused on why Wanda just didn’t seem to give a shit about him anymore, it was all about her kids but fuck Vision i geuss.
Only reason I can think of is that Visions Actor fell out with Marvel for some reason. He is a friend of Johnny Depps, so maybe they didn't want him in the movie because of the court case??? I really have no idea... having White vision end up with visions memories at the end of Wanda Vision, then never seen again??? like WTF? what a waste of a great character.
Vision died. Simple. Multiverse "infinite possibilities" really does not mean "infinite possibilities."
@@blusafe1 Vision was alive at the end of Wanda vision, with his old memories back. Fact. Something obviously happened with the actor that they aren't talking about, because otherwise it doesn't make sense that he's not in the movie. They could have simply left him dead, instead they went to lengths to bring him back... then forget about him as though he never existed.
@@madquest8 They would have had to pay him. Same way the Illuminati didn't have a Tony Stark even though it does in the comics, the thing with live action is that cameos cost a lot of money. In comics, you can just draw Superman and that's it, he is in the story. Here you need to pay the actor.
Glad to see a new Pitch Meeting from Ryan George.
That sounds like two names, are those the names of the two people in Pitch Meeting? 😮
Subbed, this is brilliant.