Harry Potter And The Order Of The Phoenix Pitch Meeting
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After Goblet of Fire kicked things up a notch in the Harry Potter Universe with the death of Robert Pattinson’s Cedric Diggory, things got REAL at Hogwarts in Harry’s fifth year. With the Ministry of Magic in full denial mode about Voldemort’s return, Harry and the gang had to train themselves and deal with the crazy authoritarian Defense Against the Dark Arts teacher Dolores Umbridge.
Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix definitely raises a few questions though. Like how was it okay for them to have Harry do public manage on the way to his hearing for doing public magic? Why didn’t Umbridge break down the wall earlier if they knew where Dumbledore’s Army was practicing? Was that kiss with Cho Chang romantic or creepy? Does the power of friendship really solve everything?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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"Gimme high five my dude."
"No, that would be too complicated editing wise."
Not easy, actually an inconvenience.
Eh, just have the contact done off-screen as his hand moves out of frame.
@@bretsheeley4034 there was no guy to ever invent it.
Actually an inconvenient 😂🤩😂
I love when he breaks the 4th wall
@@bretsheeley4034 then the joke wouldn't exist.
I loved the exchange
"No, that would be too complicated editing wise."
""Okay, that's fair"
And here I thought editing was super eas....
meta content is tight
@@blindleader42 super easy, barely an inconvenience?
I almost expected the response to that to be like "oh that's super easy, barely an inconvenience"
yeah that was hilarious
"We have something Voldermort doesn't"
"Hmmm-- Noses"
The delivery was just perfect
F
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The real reason Voldemort wants to kill Harry….is because he has a good looking nose
ah it was a bit on the nose tbh
Voldermort in real life: I modified my body to be a ‘black alien’ - now restaurants are scared to serve me.
I love how "the boss can't do stuff himself" is perfectly valid reasoning for executive guy
Tbf it's a valid reason for most people
@@eradictrealistic
Kudos to Imelda Staunton for making Umbridge so hateable, it's a testament to her acting skills.
I almost want an Umbridge spin-off show just to see her back in the role. She crushed it.
@Trina Q Are you going to the throne of "just some dude without a mustache"?
I once read that she hates Umbridge as much as we do, if not more. She had to go to some dark places for that role.
And she succeeded. Voldemort seems like a precocious scamp next to her.
I mean, she was written pretty terrible to begin with, so it’s also a testament to that. Much as I hate giving JKR credit for anything now.
Her role in The secret of Vera Drake would mealt the heart of an ice giant
"And then he shows Harry a vision of Voldemort in a hoodie"
"Oooh, spookie."
"And it's a zip-up hoodie too!"
"He has no business wearing that"
That was the best part lmao
The noses part was the best for me
HE HAS NO BUSINESS WEARING THAT!!!
i laughed so hard at that 😂
Yes this made me laugh. Wasn’t expecting that description
I died at this 🤣
4:54 This is just a nitpick, but she didn't kill his parents. She tortured them into insanity. Which only makes it that much worse that Neville's biggest fear was Snape from being bullied so badly.
Lmao
I was just going to comment with thus. They were at Saint Mungos with Gilderoy and gave Neville candy wrappers every time he came to visit them. Neville's gran said he kept all the wrappers in a box in his room.
@@affsteak3530 I believe they were bubble gum wrappers tho I may be mistaken
@@affsteak3530 Omfg that's so sad! Dang, HP is really good, just so much detail and emotion
Oh, please, Harry's parents got killed by voldy and yet he doesn't afraid of him, but afraid of the effects of dementors ~😑
Neville isn't afraid of severus he's afraid of authority and the pressure ~😑
Would be great to see a pitch meeting for "Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy". That movie has so much random stuff that it would make for a hilarious pitch meeting lol. I can already imagine the exec guy's confusion
As much as some people dislike the movie adaptation, I agree. I was introduced to the series by the movie, though I've since read the books. And while the movie isn't as good, it's not like he can do pitch meetings for a book. And I agree about exec guys confusion. It would be absolutely glorious.
@@azathoththeprimalchaos2289 HHGTTG started out as a radio show and became a text adventure game and a BBC TV series decades before the movie. I was first introduced to the game by a friend, then read the book and watched the show. I didn't hate the movie, but it was the weakest version.
@@JonathanRossRogers I already know all of that? Except for your personal preferences/experiences I am well aware of everything you just said. Maybe you assumed I was unaware because of the fact I started with the movie that came out decades later, but thats only because I wasn't alive back then.
@@azathoththeprimalchaos2289 I'm sure you're very proud of yourself.
@@JonathanRossRogers yea, but not for any reasons related to this conversation. And at least I'm aware I have an inflated ego. I just don't care enough to do anything about it. Anyways, I should note that I recall your comment having a very different vibe and being longer with more personal details which came off as bragging. Looking at it now, that is not the case, and you haven't edited it or anything either. This leads me to assume I was tired when I responded. I don't remember what time it was. Sorry for any inconvenience. Should probably note I'm tired right now too. So I may not be thinking straight rn.
Just as a correction, Belatrix didn't kill Neville's parents, just tortured them into insanity. This wasn't super clarified in the movie though so it's totally understandable.
Your comment is missing 1974 words.
Beatrix?
@@josiahtaylor7967 lol, just woke up and typing on a phone. Fixed now.
And, in many ways, that's worse. I've been in the situation where a loved one was losing their memory but stayed alive. You can't properly grieve because they're still there, but everything that really makes them "them" is gone.
Neville had to live life seeing his parents while they were unable to recognize him at all. Instead of dead parents you could grieve over, he got parents that were right there and yet not there at all. For all the flak Neville gets in the series, I'd say that he had it worse than Harry parents-wise.
Oh whoops
Whoopsie
"And he escapes by clappin' on a bird!" Thank you for that line. It is golden.
What double entendre with "clapping" don't I get there?
I rewound that part to watch it again. 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jamielondon6436 The sound of one flattish fleshy body part impacting on another fleshy body part , such as palm on palm, belly on belly, belly on buttocks, etc.
Clapping on a bird is tight
@@outfuhduck sir wut
I’m laughing way too much at “these wizards are all about popping out.”
Wizzards be poppin'
"Catching people in the act is tight!"
"What?"
"That's why I'm always kicking down motel room doors."
"You might be going to jail, sir."
I have not laughed that hard at a Pitch Meeting joke since I started watching the series.
"We have something that Voldemort doesn't!"
"Noses?"
"Friendship."
Oh, that works too, I guess! 😂
Hair and shoes.
It was “something worth fighting for”
The power of friendship is TIGHT!!
Pants also works.
Turn out we have a lot of things Voldy doesn't have =)))
I love that the executive is grossed out by Harry kissing Cho, but he likes invade motels to catch people in the act
whoops!
that's because, you know, bounderies. 😂
Even the executuve has standards
He actually blacked out when quirrel died, so he actually didn't 'see' that.
In the books, not in the film
Actually?
But I believe at the end of book four (so not the movie) it mentions that Harry went from the castle to the train on the “horseless carriages”, which we know are pulled by thestrals, despite having seen Cedric die just weeks before
@@92brunod Actually.
@@personperson.7744 Cedric's death hadn't been fully processed. That's the answer I got when I was fifteen, anyway - I believe it was a theory rather than a fact, but it fits, so I stick with it :P
I would like to see a pitch for "Everything Everywhere All at Once". Even the real one for that movie must have been kinda bonkers.
I want him to do Human Centipede. I've requestd him many times but he doesnt listen.
@@miheekrao1292 I mean. I can see why. Even if he can stomach it, its too risky for his audience. Especially since pitch meetings is still owned by screenrant im pretty sure.
Yes please
@@azathoththeprimalchaos2289 it's not porn. It's just a gross horror movie. What's the big deal...he has done pitch meetings for more graphic movies
@@miheekrao1292 true. But it tends to squick people out. Even more so than whatever else he's covered, like slasher movies. Those are gory, which is fine. Scatalogical horror is more taboo. And is also the focus of the plot in this case. I don't disagree with you, but the majority of people wouldn't accept it, and certainly screenrant would not allow it.
I still can't get over the fact that Voldemort, the baddest wizard of all times, couldn't defeat a bunch of school kids and retrieve his magic ball.
I still can't get over that in the very first movie, Dumbledore thought hiding the key to LITERAL IMMORTALITY (not to mention UNLIMITED WEALTH as well), behind a few "traps" that some eleven year olds could get past, would be enough to stop Voldemort from getting it.
@@thehoerscorral8565 actually the traps were designed to test the trio plus Neville , there are traps specifically for each of them.
Also the mirror was the only thing required. Voldemort would have never gotten the stone from the mirror.
@@redhunter8731 That's even dumber if they were there to "test" them lmao, there is literally no reason to do that. Retroactively trying to explain away these plotholes doesn't fix that. Besides, considering he's supposedly a "dark lord" (whatever that means) he probably could have found a way to beat the mirror eventually. The only way your scenario makes sense is that Dumbledore specifically wanted at least Harry if not all three of them to not only get past potentially DEADLY traps (regardless of how easy they turned out to be), and then confront a fully grown wizard being possessed by a dark lord, why exactly? To see how they'd handle it? Didn't Dumbledore get called away to some party or some shit anyway? What if all three had made it to the end and Voldemort just told dude to "kill the spares" like he did robert pattinson in the fourth movie LOL.
@@redhunter8731 the traps were NOT designed to test the main trio.
They were devised by each of the Head of Houses (and Quirrel himself) based on their own preferences (Snape who valued intellect created a test where you need logic and potions, Sprout wanted people to be able to recognize and properly deal with plants and so on.)
@@littleleg6428 yeah they were made by Heads of houses indeed,but you don't see the point. The traps were so magnificently decided that it reflects the powers of each of his friends. Dumbledore thought Neville would be comming along with him too so he placed the devil's Snare. And in the last step Hermoine had to go back because the Potion quiz had only 1 drink to go ahead and one to go back. So whatever may have happened it would always be Harry at last,if he was ever gonna try this out
Ive watched enough Pitch Meetings to know that if this were a big blockbuster movie, they’d have just done that high-five offscreen and told me about how epic it was with some awkward exposition.
A very epic offhand high five!
@@Techydad Yeahyeahyeah
@@Techydad oh 80s freeze frames highfives are right !!!
underrated comment
"We've been hi fiving for years."
Doctor Strange
The "Kissing while she's crying" bit had me dying 😂
"Gimme high five my dude."
"No, no thank you. That'd be way too complicated editing wise."
My G, that was some beautiful fourth wall breakage right there. I applaud you.
I was laughing so hard when the high five came up lol "no thanks, that would be way too complicated in editing" haha :D
Meta jokes are TIGHT!!
Best meta humor 🤣🤣🤣🤣
shattering the 4th wall is tight
Love it
“Catching people in the act is tight “
“That’s why I love kicking down motel room doors” lol 😂😂
Haha, the best joke in the video, in my opinion! 😂🤣
XD had me reeling!
You might be going to jail, sir. 😆
I officially lost it at that line. XD
Catching your wife in a motel with some chad is TIGHT!!
You should bring back that line from “Man of Steel”: “that’s gonna be super difficult, very much an inconvenience”
To be fair in the book Hermione makes it sound like students could potentially use the weapon and when Umbridge looks around Draco didn’t hide his greedy smile in time so Umbridge out of fear goes alone with Harry and Hermy.
"ACKKKTUALLLYYYY"
Okay that's fine but movies its still a fault of this movie. needing to read supplementary material to explain plot contrivances shouldnt be required and this is ultimately what holds these movies back, especially as they progressed.
@@acidBONEZ I know I was just showing it wasn’t made up by the movie this time.
@@GODOFAWSOMENESS1 hey my bad I wasn't attacking you, I just see this excuse bandied around all the time to deflect any type of criticism. People seem to need to protect any media they love at all costs as if any flaw no matter how small suddenly invalidates the movie or reflects poorly on to them.
It's not just using books either, it's especially bad when they use something a creator said like in an interview or something.
And I wasn't attacking you but it
@@acidBONEZ oh I know you weren’t attacking me and I hate it when people can’t admit when the stuff they love is flawed. One thing I never liked was that polyjuice doesn’t change your voice in the movies. I would have been okay if only we could hear their real voice and in world they sound like the person they changed into but they didn’t even do that. I also didn’t like when Dumbledore was being loud with Harry when asking if Harry put his own name into the goblet of fire.
"She's the absolute worst and people are going to hate her more than Voldemort."
1000% Correct
I mean its like this, Voldemort wants to kill people. She specifically wants to torture children. She is worse imo
What makes Umbridge worse than Voldemort is because she exists in real life
@@alifnovaldi5195 Yeah. Voldemort is a genocidal supervillain, but Umbridge is every power-tripping middle management.
it's why everyone cheers for her fate that is so much worse than death, well except that Dumbledore rescues her because he decided even that was too much for her. Or he was jealous of all the horse peen she was gonna get, one of the two
>>1000%
"He escapes by clapping on a bird" Dumbledore has some very interesting spell tactics.
But you must admit, he has style.
Just clapped that bird's cheeks right hard
I too enjoy clapping birds!
🤣
Somehow after all these years I still love " Super easy, barely an inconvenience."
My favorite is the one where he forgot and came back in the post credits scene to say it. 😂
@@NarwahlGaming that's a good one
@@NarwahlGaming which one is that? 🤔
@@MightyShepherds it was one of his earliest ones, when the phrase was just starting to take off - Batman Begins, maybe?
When I first got my wife to watch I told her that Voldemort was the main villain but there was another more hated and even more evil. She asked how someone could be worse than him. I said just wait. Not even 10 minutes after she showed up on screen, my wife turned and said, "I understand."
I believe people hate Umbridge more because she's more realistic. Voldemort is a murderous racist psycho -- you don't really meet people like that in your day to day. He's scary but you can't relate to interacting with him. Umbridge is an entitled asshole on a power trip -- you run into people like that all the time and they make everyone's lives miserable.
@@Phyrre56 let's not forget she was a racist psycho as well...
(she hated centaurs and other sentient non-humans as much as Voldy hated muggles, even before she worked for his administration in the 6th book; it was not just a pose to stay in power in the 6th, it was her genuine belief).
But yeah, Voldy was the distant threat, she was an immediate threat, and while she thought she is the good one, she was really counterproductive for the "good" side.
(much like one Igor Matovic, a former prime minister for ~2years, now just a minister in Slovakia... he won the elections promising end of corruption (the previous government had shady connections, let's leave it at that), but now everybody hates him even more, because he just makes random statements, polarizing the society even more; and much like Umbridge, he has zero self-reflection and can't admit his own mistakes).
As the communist saying went back in the day; An initiative idiot is worse than the class enemy.
She is worse than him because at least Voldemort doesn't pretend to be anything else than what he is. Dolores is acting nice and innocent, and even if most people can see through her, she still gets away with it.
I love Ryan's variety of expressions when the screenwriter asks the producer to get all the way off his back XD
I noticed the producer fumbled a bit. The screenwriter is pretty intimidating. 🤣
This time he was very angry lol
"Okay let me get off'a that thi-... That back of yours"😂
"She's this short lady, wears a lot of pink, really likes cats."
"She doesn't sound so bad."
"She's the absolute worst and people are going to hate her more than they hate Voldemort."
*No, he's got a point.*
At least Voldemort ends his victims’ suffering. She just lets them live with it
Ryan really should get his gender-terms right. Umbridge becomes 'Headmaster'. No, no, no dear boy. She becomes 'Headmistress'. 🙄
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She was, in my opinion, a lot worst in the books. I hated her so much in the books it actually made me physically angry.
Of course people are gonna hate her more than voldemort. She is much more relatable than Voldemort. You can pretty much assume that everybody knows his own personal Dolores Umbridge and they hate her to the core. But Voldemort is just some ephemeral meta threat.
Fun fact(s): in the books, Umbridge couldn't find the room of requirements because the door to it always showed up in different places all the time. Also, Harry and his friends couldn't use the floo network even without Umbridge in the room, because the ministry was spying on the floo network.
If I remember correctly, the reason they couldn't use it was the Inquisitorial squad was still in her office (Draco and his friends), Her Floo was the only one not being monitored.
@@Whyteroze28 um correct me if i'm wrong, but i am pretty sure the floo network was being monitored, unless i am mistaken or just misunderstood your reply. lol, sorry if this sounds dumb
@@lmzimm It was, but in the books the reason they were in Umbridge's office was because her fireplace was the only one not being monitored which is why they were trying to contact Sirius from there.
But after they took her out to the forest, they couldn't go back to use her fireplace because Draco and the rest of the Inquisitorial Squad were still there. Ginny, Ron, Neville and Luna had to escape them to get outside to meet up with Harry and Hermione.
@@Whyteroze28 oh ok, lol
Then why were they trying to use it before she stopped them?
I actually hurt my ribs laughing when you said “he has no business wearing THAT!” Omg
Fun fact: Not only was Umbridge about ten times worse in the book, but JK Rowling considers her worse than Voldemort.
Fax bro
Rowling said that? I thought that was only what fans said. Do you have a source?
Likewise, Umbridge is the absolute worst!
Not only that, she does these horrible things and has a full smile
@@avimo2565 It was an interview. You can probably find it with a little digging.
"That would be way too complicated, editting-wise"
The Ryans are becoming self-aware.
How long before RyNet decides that the biggest threat to movies... is humanity?
You sir, are genius.
Then they'll just pump out more Michael Bay Transformers movies.
Whatever keeps Canada safe and unsold
Can’t lie, “RyNet” made me burst out laughing.
Nicely done
2:51
“That’s why I’m always kicking down motel room doors.”
“Oh my God!”
“So then what happens?”
“I think you’re going to go to jail, sir.”
I almost wet myself 😂
Bellatrix didn't kill Neville's parents, they are still alive. They just got tortured so hard that it made them lose their minds. They are in St. Mungo's Hospital. There's a touching scene in the book which wasn't included in the movie.
They were tortured by touching each other? Eww!! Glad they cut that
@@fokeyjo he meant touching as in nice or emotional, not actual touching
@@furiousfusion7890 thinking people in pitch meeting comments are serious is tight!
Touching as it may be, it's silly. Why would they be retired to a magical hospital for being tortured, when the Obliviate charm can just erase their memory of being tortured. Having specific uses for magic, then not using it is tight...
@@kevinbarnard355 There's nothing to Obliviate when they've already lost their minds.
“Magic probably, I guess, I don’t know” this is the logic that covers up any inconsistency in this series
as a writer who writes magical characters this is exactly how we think
It doesn't tho
As Lucy Lawless once said, “whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it.” Stands to reason this applies to Harry Potter movies. Wizard!
"We have something Voldemort doesn’t.
- Hm. Noses."
Perfect delivery.
@SAKURA 😨👎
this is youtube go somewhere else inapropriate
Oh boy, do I love the Harry Potter ones especially
Harry Potter ones are TIGHT!
But sometimes you notice finding plot holes is more difficult than in lots of other movies. (And half the plot holes are not in the books, but that's beside the point)
Jesus Christ called people everywhere to repent of their sins, therefore, if you confess with your lips that Jesus is your Lord and Savior and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved and you'll inherit the kingdom of Heaven!
@@RepentJC this is the way. Hallelujah. Now please move along.
Loving Harry Potter is TIGHT!
I love all these episodes. But this one is the king of all episodes ! Good job Ryan.
"-We have something Voldermot doesn't"
"-hmm, noses."
Pure gold.
"If only I didn't hate muggles and could get plastic surgery, to rebuild my nose."
"She's the absolute worst and people are gonna hate her more than they hate Voldemort."
Imelda Staunton was called up and told she would be perfect for the role of Dolores Umbridge, who is described as "toadlike." Her indignation reminded me of Margaret Hamilton being told she'd be great as the Wicked Witch of the West.
Wow yeah, the only way to handle that kind of offer would be to preface it with "Don't take this the wrong way, but"
@@teddyhaines6613 True, but it still doesn't help much.
@@teddyhaines6613 A better way to preface that would be "Now keep in mind, I'm going to give you a buttload of money for this, but..."
_"Hey, you read the Harry Potter books?"_
_"Yeah."_
_"You familiar with that character everyone hates, Dolores Umbridge?"_
_"...yeah."_
_"So... unrelated... What are you doing on Monday?"_
I saw an interviewer do that to Cillian Murphy. She said that fans of GOT wanted him to be cast as a character described as having wormy lips and other unbecoming physical features and wanted his reaction. It was a super cringy interview.
5:47 that would be way too complicated editing wise
- **Breaking fourth walls is tight**
"And Harry starts teaching people spells in the room of requirement."
"Oh, that's that room where you get-you get the requirement."
I laughed so hard at that.
Ryan, you have a comedic gift that few others possess, and I'm grateful for it. This was one of your best.
Legend has it: Ryan Highfiving himself would not only break the 4th wall, but every wall. *E v e r y w a l l*
My walls!!!
It's a good thing these videos have multiple, completely different, people in them then isn't it?
How could you not cover the fact that the same muggles he did magic in front of are now seeing a talking envelope?
the dursleys already know about magic
@@naturallyproblematic Yes but that was one of the charges against him, that he did it in front of a muggle. The ministry was just trying to expel him. I forget if they reveal in the movie that umbridge was the one who set them on him in the first place.
We have something voldermort doesn't
A nose 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Awesome pitch as usual
You guys making this film that heavily featured our department is a huge inconvenience and has caused quite a few problems over the years.
I’ve gotta say, screenwriter guy’s scripts are really crazy but he deserves mad props for coming up with all the movies! And I’ll always love producer guy’s enthusiasm (:
`cause #money
Awwww
@@lemniscatefortunecanfinall2707 HELL YEAH UNREGULATED AND DANGEROUS CAPITALISM
He's responsible for both the best and worst movies of all time!
Little detail about Umbradge catching the Dumbledore's army, in the books Marietta (Cho's friend) spoke and revealed to her what was the room turning into and where and when they were meeting, that's how they captured them at the end of a meeting, no wall explosion or anything of that genre
The movie tends to fudge a lot of things to save runtime.
Likewise, Marietta was cursed into next week by the good guys as a result.
And because she told Umbridge she permanently has the word "sneak" (kind of like snitch) of her face.
I remember when I first watched Order of the Phoenix I was so amazed, excited, surprised and more when Voldemort and DUmbledore were in the Ministry of Magic about to face off. It was like two legendary gunslingers in a western. Before that, Voldemort would always disappear in a cloud of mist whenever he is cornered. So my jaw dropped when I realized, "holy shit!!! Dumbledore and Voldemort are going to fight!!!"
That line about the high five being too difficult to edit absolutely killed me! 😂😂😂😂
"It's gonna be hard to get there with Umbridge on their back."
They should just ask her to get ALL the way off their back, and she would probably get off of that thing.
That's why everyone hates Umbridge... she totally WOULDN'T get off their back. The monster!
"The only person who can take a prophesy is the person the prophesy is about."
Which makes me wonder how the prophesies get there in the first place...
It's magic world, they probably just manifest in a fluffy pillow somewhere up high.
Hense why there's so many of them
magic
Because the one writing the prophecy in very small writing adds "and also me!" where it may go unnoticed.
they wore magical gloves?
The Dark Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural.
Honestly, I'm a little disappointed that you didn't point out the fact that the killing curse didn't kill Sirius instantly. It could have been something like:
"Wait isn't the killing curse supposed to kill it's target instantly? Why didn't Sirius die instantly?"
"Because then the scene wouldn't happen."
"Ooh, a very emotionally convenient spell"
In the book she uses a red curse, not the killing curse
@@TheNinthGenerarion I know.
@@SirScroatyPeniasMcCheese if you know that’s not the killing curse, your criticism doesn’t make any sense.
@@lilkitkat80 In the book, the curse is a flash of red light, however in the movie we hear Bellatrix say "Avada Kedavra". I was merely pointing out that the curse should have killed him instantly.
"Voldemort in a hoodie" is the hardest i've laughed in a Pitch meeting yet lmao
“He has no business wearing that” Ryan George 2022
I laughed so hard at this line and had to skip back to watch it again! It was such a stupid thing to see in the movie but producer guy’s reaction now has me convinced it belonged there.
You should mention how everybody hated Cho Chang for betraying dumbledore's army and didn't even let her explain what happend and later when it's revealed that she actually didn't betray anyone, (because all she said was under the influence of some illegal potions) they don't even say a word to her, like she's still considered guilty or something.
Veritaserum as b*tch.
In the book, it's not Cho, but her friend who rats them out willingly. Harry and Cho break up after she tries to defend her friend's actions with a 'she didn't have much choice.'
I didn't watch the movie, so I didn't know that's the route they chose. In the book it's Cho's friend who rats them out, and it's because she believes Umbridge. She only ever joined because Cho really wanted to join. Cho defends her friend, honestly only because they're friends I'm guessing, because she doesn't even have much to defend her with, but the point is that this causes Harry and her to never again converse. Cho cameos in the books after this point, but she's relegated to tertiary character role more or less
That always drove me nuts when it came to the movie version
684 thousand subscribers!!!! You’re almost to 3/4 of a million! Excellent episode, as always, you’re the best Ryan thank you for always brightening my day
I recently found your pitch meetings and I can't stop binge watching them! It's the best! And I love watching them of my favorite movies, you've done a lot of them. But maybe for the next pitch meeting, how about Troy? (there are some weird scenes there). And maybe the Shrek series.
"I'll catch on eventually, probably" is how I live my life
I’m excited for Ryan to get to Deathly Hallows.
“Why are we suddenly making the final book into 2 movies when we did a much longer book in Order of the Phoenix with just one movie?”
“Because… money.”
“Oh, I love money!”
"Twilight, Maze Runner, Hunger games are doing it, I don't see why not?"
@@xygdra actually Deathly Hallows was the first one to be split in two parts, the other franchises repeated after them
You know, if they ever remake Harry Potter, which I'd be all for as long as it's animated (because you can't replace the original actors, don't even try), it should be a television series so it can be longer and more fleshed out. Like a season for each book. That would be tight!
OH, money is tight!
I mean Percy Jackson is getting a series.
In the video games, Umbridge and the portrait of Mrs. Black share a voice actress with Singingway in FFXIV Endwalker (also Moenbryda's mom in Endwalker and Dulia-Chai in Shadowbringers).
"aww, but he loves giving that speech!"
lol
I love that one of the best Harry Potter fights is explained as a "big ole duel" 🤣
The part about everyone hating Umbridge more than Voldemort is entirely accurate for me and I would die on that hill.
I know for a fact Voldemort is WAY worse and has done worse stuff than Umbridge. But I hate Umbridge much much more.
@@adamvialpando106 at least Voldemort knows he’s the big bad.
100% agree! At least Voldemort had backstory that made him somewhat likeable and his actions somewhat understandable. But I remember how detailed Rowling was in detailing every aspect of Umbridge's status quo and I'm sure everyone in the theatre was cheering once she got carried off by the centaurs.
It's good not to form too strong an opinion on someone who avada kadava you while flying in one window and out the other.
There may not be enough room for you and everyone else to die on that hill
"then voldemort gives harry a terrifying vision of voldemort in a hoodie"
"oh spooky"
"yeah and it's a zip up hoodie too"
"he has no business wearing that"
i think that was absolutely funny
“that’s why I am always kicking down motel room doors“ I’m dead 😂
He got that from Dwight Schrute from The Office.
"I love catching people in the act. That's why I always whip open doors".
"So then what happens"
"you're going to jail sir"
lol
If there was anyone in the room with you then they can see thestrals now.
I like these ones on old HP movies because it reminds me that the franchise was kind of a mess back then, too, it was just more easily hidden and also I was 13 and didn't realize it.
All of those movies are terrible adaptations.
@@keelahrose and the fandom has grown up to see all the weird crap in the series that we ignored as kids.
@@Kindred008 They weren't well-written, but they told a compelling story.
I read all the books as a kid. After the 2nd movie I stopped watching the movies. Dumpster fires
@@keelahrose I have mixed feelings about a magical race of slaves and Harry’s career goals to become a magical cop in a society where they put criminals in the torture prison with dementors flying around
5:38 "He's wearing a hoodie, and it's a zip up hoodie" "He has no business wearing that!" That genuinely made me spit out my water I was drinking lol literally...thanks man, I haven't had a laugh like that in a while. I've watch 70% of your videos but for some reason they're hard to find, or at least I keep finding ones I haven't seen despite feeling like I've searched the Screen Rant channel or the direct channel.
No mention of how awesome the Dumbledore vs Voldermort fight was thouhg... It aged like fine wine. I don't drink wine but you get it. Years later and it's still great.
"No thank you, that would be way too complicated editing wise" was a quality 4th wall break XD
Can’t wait for the next one- “Yes sir I do, it’s called the Half Blood Prince” “Oooh spooky! So tell me about this thing!” “It’s Green!” “Green?” “Everything is Green, there is just Green absolutely everywhere, it’ll be like watching the whole movie through a pile of Green jello!” “Ohhh piles of Green jello are tight!”
😂
my second least favorite of the movies and fun fact Voldemort has only four whole minutes of screen time so I hope they make a joke of that
Well, there is lots of golden in that film as well - so it is much less green that Deathly Hallows
How that movie was nominated for the Best Cinematography Oscar is beyond me. I felt like I was watching it through an apple juice bottle. Even though the DH movies were hard to see, at least that meant they weren't ugly-looking.
Holy crap these will ABSOLUTELY NEVER get old...I hope you never get tired of doing them, man, I love all the little changes, just little things here and there :)
I especially love the detail to the background tech. Flat screens, CRTs, Apple IIs and I think I remember a typewriter in one. 😂
Clapping on a bird lmao that line killed me
5:42 Fourth wall breaks are tight!
3:26 Somethin about the way he says, "Clappin on a bird" makes me laugh so hard 🤣
Clapping birds is tight
4:51 Point of Fact: Bellatrix didn't kill Neville Longbottom's parents. The were tortured to insanity and basically brain damaged--although they never specifically say (in the movies) that they were or weren't dead--the viewer just suspects that they are dead since Neville is raised by his grandmother.
I just had an "oh shit that's a valid point" moment for when Ryan mentiond Umbridge exploding the entrance to the room of requirement after a LONG time she and Filch and her other minions knew where it was.
Like really, why didn't she interrupt them earlier? Maybe because she wanted to collect enough evidance and make sure of what their buisness was
4:24 "Ooh very highly stacked balls".
3:04
Oh, rebounding on Cho Chang in front of Cedric's picture is tight!
Too bad it lasted only several pages before Cho was forgotten to oblivion. And Harry had to settle with Ginny. If it wasn't obvious, I didn't like how Harry ended up with Ginny all these years.
I had the notification for this yesterday and I've been waiting! But I was super unwell, didn't watch that to ruin my first viewing. Thanks for the content Ryan. Feeling better today so gunna watch.
Dude, you're the best, don't ever stop making these ❤️
It was a while since I read the book but I recently rewatched this movie and was amazed how basically NOTHING happens. Annoying lady comes to Hogwarts to be annoying, and stays annoying until the plot requires her to be out of a picture. Then a McGuffin-fueled battle happens. Important character dies so we get an impression that there actually was a plot. The end. :)
I must admit it's been a real while since I've read the book and saw the movie but Order of the Phoenix was always my least favorite HP book since, as you've said, nothing really happened. oh, and Harry was always oh-so-angry because teenager and trauma and what not but it was just kinda annoying and completely resolved by the start of the next year/book.
When I read this book as a child I kinda wondered what the point of it was.
I think it was twofold:
1. To show how much the Ministry of Magic had turned on Dumbledore and Harry Potter, the seeds of this were sowed by Rita Skeeter in GOF. This is important because Voldemort could carry out his plans in secret without much opposition.
2. The prophecy - A lot of the book is Harry dreaming about the department of mysteries, trying to get through a door. Voldemort is obsessed with acquiring the knowledge on how to beat Harry and he thinks that if he gets his hands on the prophecy he’ll be able to. There’s a subplot in the books which culminates in the ministry battle, involving Voldemort’s attempts to steal the prophecy.
"it sounds like money" i'm guessing that's what the actual people in the room said when planning all of the Harry Potter sequels...
"Uh-oh, it's gonna be pretty hard to get there with Umbridge on their backs."
"Actually, it's super easy, barely an inconvenience. They just tell her they're gonna need her to get ALL the way off their backs and she just hops right on off of those things."
I put it at the lowest sound I possibly could and I can still hear it... impressive
She is gonna interrupt Dumbledores speech after telling them that the students are still in danger
OH HE LOVES THAT SPEECH
he does
I lost it
"The power of friendship is unstoppable! Give me a high five my dude!"
"No! No thank.That'd be too complicated to do editing wise!"
"That's fair." 😂 💀
It makes my day when there's a new pitch meeting episode! Thanks for all the content
I love how the character(s) are self aware about editing this.
“Fun” Fact: Neville’s parents aren’t actually dead. Bellatrix just tortured them into insanity. They’re committed at the Wizard hospital St. Mungos
that isnt a FUN fact at all
Shame that they didn't feature in the movie, as they had in the book. We also find out what happened to Lockhart!
You've got about 1,979 words left. 😄
Oh dear fuck, I cannot imagine how bad Wizard Mental Institutions are. Look at how bad Humanities were/are, and we've at least been progressing. A Wizard asylum sounds like the 8th circle of hell. I bet they still do lobotomies, but they call it some fucking stupid Wizard name like "Craniozap"
Honestly surprised wizards even have hospitals, the questionable way JK does world building.
A thought just occurred to me, "Does it have to be a person you see die for you to see thestrals?" Cause Harry saw the Basilisk die.
magic
He also saw his parents get murdered, but lets ignore that little plot hole.
@@hamdoggius he was too young to understand the concept, but it should then have triggered when the dementors made him relive it.
@@karsten69 Do you have to remember the memory? Even if he had his memory wiped he would still be able to see Thestrals right?
@@hamdoggius he needed to understand the concept of death. Which he couldn't do when his parents were actually killed. However after killing the basilisk himself , he should understand it, and so reliving the memories should make him understand the loss.
"And he escaped by clapping on a bird" this quote made me cry laughing
Love that you are redoing the Harry Potter pitch meetings!
"That would be way too complicated editing wise" almost killed me.
"Give me a high five, my dude"
"No, no thank you, that would be way too complicated editing-wise"
"It's going to be super hard for them to get out of this situation."
"Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
"Oh really?"
Gets me everytime 😂🤣😂🤣
"It's gonna be hard for them to get there with umbridge on their back"
"Actually it's gonna be super easy , barely an inconvenience"
"How come"
"They just tell her to GET ALL THE WAY OFF THEIR BACKS"
What a crazy coincidence you released this today. My teacher turned this on after our final exam today. That is insane!!!
Congratulations on finishing your final exam
Hopefully your final exam was better than Harry's in this movie. No dead godfather visions, I take it?
Your teacher was probably putting it on as a warning to the students. Just a guess.
Not that insane, Harry Potter is popular amongst younger people, easily digestible, uncomplicated and uncontroversial (if you ignore the author). It's prime material for teachers
wow wow wow...wow