Viper, you're a God of settings! No kidding, your epic lessons are incredible and totally decrease a time of learning! Special thanks for lesson about LSD. I've coudnt understand its concept , no even talking about master it. Other thanks is for your Fresh Setups for Project Cars 2. Using them I've stopped to fight with car everytime and at least could concentrate on my own skills. That amaizing feeling when you understand that there can be only one wrong thing - my skill. No more thousands of destructive thoughts like "does I've set my car well or no? Can I rely on it now, or now or now?" Unfortunately have not enough time and patience for settings and testing them to perfect. So it is also a doubts about them. But now I can concentrate on my skills and mastering the track. Used to set bots on 80% and it was challenge for me, because a lack of stability caused by loss of concentration. But now, thanks to your settings I'm competitive with 100+%(mastership and agression) bots and players also. I was competitive only with sequental gears, but now starting to learn using H-shifter + clutch in racing "agressive" style and now I'm rather competivie with that stuff. Because of you've relieved me from doubts about car settings, made them relyable for newbies like me. I wish I could support you on Patreon and take a Special Lessons from you, but unfortunately have not enough of free money for that:( I think that few bucks is not enough for the job you do for all of us. But when I get an opportunity I'll start doing it as soon as possible! Lookin forward for your lessons and setups (maby formula cars - Rookie,FC. FR3.5, FA ?) and have some I think good ideas for a new Epic Lessons, but will share it with you only when I have an opportunity to sponsor them. Hope it will be soon and you will like them! Wish you all the best mate. God Bless.
There is quite a lot of useful information on this topic missing. The two most important ones to me would be shifting time and the actual power/torque curve. To begin with shifting time. With modern sequential gearboxes shifting takes milliseconds and thus have little delay on the duration you can apply power to the wheels. However, with manual gearboxes and older automatic gearboxes shifting might take considerably longer (for manual gearboxes this depends a lot on the driver). If you have your gear ratios closer together you have to shift more often on each straight and this can mean you might lose precious time during which you can't apply power to the wheels. You're gain on having more power can be lost because you can apply it less often. This is something to take into consideration. When it comes to the actual power/torque curve. This is something more difficult to determine as it requires you to know the torque curve of the car you want to adjust the gearing for. To make this point clear imagine one car with a very high revving engine with a large turbo that only works well at high RPMs. This means there is a very high peak power without much power at low and mid RPM. This is similar to many F1 engines over the past decades and that is also mostly true for other racing oriented engines. However, road cars nowadays can have different turbo configurations (tri-turbo, turbo's with variable geometry, electric turbo's, etc.) that reduce turbo-lag and can massively increase the power output at lower and especially mid RPMs. The result can be that your peak power isn't as much a peak and might be more like a plateau. In this case having longer gear a bit further apart can still result in having (close to) peak power all the time. Knowing these two things is important in deciding gear ratios. But for most racing cars and drivers that don't shift manually the principles in the video will apply with no problem.
I like to use the stock ratios but adjust the final drive. I feel that the manufacturer got the gears matched to the caracteristics of the car pretty well to begin with i just tinker to even them out a bit
@@camilobermudez6683 Watch the torque/power curves. If your engine gives top power at a very narrow band at the top of the rpm graph, look for a close gear ratio at those high RPMs to keep your car for as long as possible within that power band. If it's more of a plateau/wider area where power peaks (instances the OP was talking about with more modern street cars where high power is available across a wider band of RPM than, in, say, a F1 car would have) then you can aim for a somewhat wider gear ratio that will net you better acceleration in first gear (being shorter than with a CGR) while extracting some extra kph off your highest gear (being longer), yet keep your engine in that optimal RPM band where it's power is peaking. This video also shows the general idea of how to set your car in general, but tracks also matter a lot, because it's not the same driving on a slow track full of turns where acceleration is everything than in a very fast one with long straights where top speed is king. You have to tailor your transmission not just to the power curve of your engine, but also with the track you're about to drive at in mind.
Thank god your channel exist and your videos like this exist. I recently found the charm in racing games, specifically the simulator ones and I know nothing about driving and such details. Thanks for creating this channel and this video.
Never used to have a clue on the ratios etc, so just used to piss about with them and hope it was right (in career only). It never was and I'd always end up screaming down a straight at about 90 with the engine sounding like a crying child. Thanks to this, I can go a little more into it and improve my times and placings. Life begins at 40, and a little help from Viperconcept...
Gran Turismo developers should've included these kind of tutorials in their games. The first Gran Turismo I played was Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec, but I didn't own that game. Gran Turismo 5 and 6 were the first ones I owned and got into (I missed out on the GT4), but I never bothered much with those settings shown here because of my lack of knowledge about them. Once I came across your channel about 3 years ago I've been paying attention and learning a few things, here and there about those settings, racing line and etc. I could've also done my research on my own too, but I like how you explain them, teach and give tips. So thank you very much. Another thing, I'm not aware if you have any video about manual shifting which I would love see and learn about it. I've been trying to race using manual shifting now, but It doesn't look like I'm doing it right because: when I downshift sometimes it kind of hit redline/stays revving the engine and I have to either brake or upshift again. So I'm probably downshifting when I shouldn't(?). Good thing I don't drive in real life yet or else :D
Just setup my nissan gtr nismo 1000+hp rally car today :) Watched viperconept's suspention tuning video and got the lap times down from 1:50.6** to 1:45.*** in gt6 at Nordwand K Trail ! Thx Viperconcept! * = I will post the correct time tomorrow since im in the bed.
I saw this video, then I setup my transmission for a friendly tournament... Then... I shared with two friends and they feel really good! So... I think now I mastered the transmission. The car feels perfect; on the slower part of the track i'm on 1st gear and at the end of the longest straight the car is on 6th gear nearly from the top revs... BMW Z4 on Yeongam Corea.
Thanks, Viper!! We need more videos like this. I saw the old video of setups, also helpful. But this is really necessary... One specific video on every single area.
This video is amazing ! At 100% difficulty I was losing over two seconds a lap at Laguna Seca to the AI in the GT1 Merc in project cars 2. I put your exact gear ratios in as per the video and I’ve gained over two seconds a lap just from the ratios. Now I can race my favourite car in PC2 and be competitive with AI at 100%. Thank you so much and if you want to share a full set up link or video for the GT1 Mercedes that would be lovely haha
Thanks for the cookie! I always think that the main goal with transmission setup is to have approximately the same gap between gears to avoid holes in acceleration... And in the real world, one of the best final ratio for street legal car is 4.444 or 4.777 for slow tracks to maximize the acceleration.
Keep in mind that it is the ratio between the gear ratios what has to be close not the difference, going from a 3.0 to a 1.5 is the same as going from a 1.0 to a 0.5 although the difference is less on the latter. In addition to that you should try to have a bigger ratio of gear ratios on the first gears (you can tolerate more difference in lower gears because of the increased torque at the wheels and very close 1st and 2nd gear might leave you with a useless 2nd) than on your final gears (a big difference in 5th to 6th is done in street cars for fuel economy but renders your last gear useless).
Hello. I learned so much from your videos!!! This one, LSD, Suspension, and the racing line with the other great videos on racing tactics and racecraft in your channel. I learned so much. Thank you for the knowledge. I play raceroom, and I am very happy I found your channel. I am a big fan. 🚘
I think it's important to mention shift times as well. A super fast shifting dual clutch transmission can get away with the close gear ratios, but a standard manual transmission will lose more time in the shifting that it gains from staying in the power band longer.
being reminded of gear ratio is good refresher, and just remembered that i started learn about gear ratio for sake of conquering suzuka in GT4 back then and i realized, different track could be different gear ratio as well to adjust car's character and driving style to more optimized *take the cookies
2:14 You can also understand those numbers as the amplification factor of the torque from the engine: 2.150 would mean that the engine delivers 1 N.m of torque to the gearbox and then the gearbox delivers 2.150 N.m to the differential.
when i used to play forza 4 (i miss it so fucking much :c) i didn't know shit about gear ratios, so when i got into the tuning part, i used to just input random values and expect for the best. but now i understand even more clearly! thank u Viper
What this video doesn't mention, is that in some games, changing the gear ratios involves a bit of a a tradeoff between top speed and acceleration. For example, in Need For Speed: Pro Street on my Wii, I used something of a mixed setup with my drag racer, an 873 BHP 1968 Dodge Challenger R/T: The first 2-3 gears go by fairly quickly, while the last 3-4 gears (It's a 6 gear car, with my setup) go by fairly slowly. Of course, I'm still able to do a quarter mile in 7.2 seconds, and a 13.4 half mile, so it's not all THAT slow... I have it set up like that so that the first 2-3 gears let me get off the line quickly, and the remaining 3-4 gears get me a higher top speed. At the end of the quarter mile, I'm going at about 200 MPH, while the end of my half mile only sees me doing about 210-220 MPH. That's a fairly sharp drop on the acceleration curve, but it works perfectly with my driving style. This is a huge improvement over what I used to have: Before I really got into the gearing, I was running into an issue, where my car was taking almost 12 seconds to do the quarter mile, and it was redlining on 6th gear at about 170 MPH by the end of it. I couldn't even do a half mile at all, since my engine would blow (It's a mechanic in the game that redlining for too long, normally about 10 seconds, would grenade the engine, and the half mile would've had me redlining for almost triple that). By lengthening all the gears, not only did I increase my top speed, but I was able to get my race times reduced by almost 2 seconds on the quarter mile. All thanks to proper gearing...
There is an algorithm to figure the correct ratio by multiplying and by 1.5 or 2 then dividing by speed of gear to give you the correct number to set. I don’t know correct order but it is a way to figure to correct number
What about setting gears for different corners and considering the deceleration effect on the differential. For example i set the diff to induce oversteer while decelerating so i can have better turn in in a corner. But if i change gears mid corner i might end up over steering too much cause of the small deceleration that occurs while changing gears.
#viperconcept Thanks for your time. It helped me alot. Keep going ! Question : Do you collect these kind of videos in a playlist? If not - can you :) ? They don't have a special name so it's difficult to find them
I could really really use one of these videos for rebound and compression damper settings. I know that’s more advanced and nuanced, but that’s the one part of setting up a car that I don’t understand at all 😂
May I ask you about: Which drivetrain should I apply the Close gear ratio setup? What is the alternative to a Close gear ratio setup if the car I want to apply isn't compatible with this type of Transmission setup?
Hello viperconcept, very good, helpful, detailed content. Have you been thinking about doing Rfactor 2 game analysis just like it was with Iracing or Project cars 2? Hoping for respond and cheers from Poland ;)
uffff I need to re watch it a lot times more. They are still numbers for me. I'm familiarized with short and long gear ratio but how can you set it up so well at once!??? :OOO
i generally run longer gear ratios on all tracks and tune my cars for ultimate grip and stability and acceleration fact proven when i made a TVR tuscan race spec car in GT5, it was the 1st time i went sub 6:30 on the tourist ring in a road car (general laps were 6:10-6:20) you should have heard all the hate i got in online lobbies full of bugattis and the like, sure they would beat me on the starting straight, but once the corners began i would pull away heavily, and people who tried to keep up generally died hitting the barriers
that TVR had a 5 speed gearbox if i recall correctly, it accelerated to 190mph insanely quickly and went 215 flat out, that's with 607hp 445lb-ft and 895kg :D
i was also *the* person with the fastest veyron on gt5, that is until i gave the tune away shit went 285mph+ on it's own with no drafts, and it would pull away in every race
Awesome tutorial Viperconcept - but as someone that is already near being a PRO driver, yet nowhere near being an ALIEN. As a GENERAL RULE for yourself, do you prefer to setup the final gear down the longest straight to BOUNCE on the rev-limiter for a short period - but assumes then that all other gears are even quicker on the rest of the track. Or do you prefer that you DON'T QUITE? REACH the top speed of the final gear at the end of the straight, if it's either a 4, 5 or 6 gear-box car, and you can change the gear ratio's for it?
Ehm... not offense but I think you confuse the concept of "final gear". Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment. I mean, for example, a car with 6 gears, the 6th gear isn't the "final gear". The final gear is a tool that you use to increase or descrease the speed of ALL the gears. However, to answer to your question, if you hit the rev limiter on the highest gear on straight, that means you failed the transmission setup, because it's too short. In any case you don't have to hit the rev limter at max speed. For that reason I suggest you to do some practice laps before racing to understand the top speed you'd reach on the longest straight of the track. Then, you can setup the transmission.
So this means with less powerfull cars I start with lower numbers and higher gaps between the frist 2-3 gears and later on keep the higher gears closer together? Or are they all spread out more? I try to setup an Audi Quattro, but to be hones in Forza Horizpn 4 wich will not be your favourite game... but maybe you can help me anyways with that mission?
I have a question, What would be the best gear ratios/ transmission settings for a car that is 270HP and wants to power slide corners, and have great acceleration coming out of corners. I have played a bit with the setting and with what I have learnt from here, but I am finding it difficult to get the best transmission, can anyone help please!
God I swear these intros get better every month, it's amazing. Big thank you for your informative videos my guy!
I could've done the waves way better :c.
Lol, since I've seen Viperconcept, I learned a lot of configuring cars, I agree with you.
I liked when he used different footages of Viper GT cars.
Nice PSP intro
Viper, you're a God of settings! No kidding, your epic lessons are incredible and totally decrease a time of learning!
Special thanks for lesson about LSD. I've coudnt understand its concept , no even talking about master it.
Other thanks is for your Fresh Setups for Project Cars 2. Using them I've stopped to fight with car everytime and at least could concentrate on my own skills.
That amaizing feeling when you understand that there can be only one wrong thing - my skill. No more thousands of destructive thoughts like "does I've set my car well or no? Can I rely on it now, or now or now?" Unfortunately have not enough time and patience for settings and testing them to perfect. So it is also a doubts about them. But now I can concentrate on my skills and mastering the track.
Used to set bots on 80% and it was challenge for me, because a lack of stability caused by loss of concentration. But now, thanks to your settings I'm competitive with 100+%(mastership and agression) bots and players also.
I was competitive only with sequental gears, but now starting to learn using H-shifter + clutch in racing "agressive" style and now I'm rather competivie with that stuff. Because of you've relieved me from doubts about car settings, made them relyable for newbies like me.
I wish I could support you on Patreon and take a Special Lessons from you, but unfortunately have not enough of free money for that:( I think that few bucks is not enough for the job you do for all of us. But when I get an opportunity I'll start doing it as soon as possible! Lookin forward for your lessons and setups (maby formula cars - Rookie,FC. FR3.5, FA ?) and have some I think good ideas for a new Epic Lessons, but will share it with you only when I have an opportunity to sponsor them. Hope it will be soon and you will like them!
Wish you all the best mate. God Bless.
OMG The Gran Turismo 4 soundtrack brings back memories lol
It’s also in gt6 so I think it’s just a series song
There is quite a lot of useful information on this topic missing. The two most important ones to me would be shifting time and the actual power/torque curve.
To begin with shifting time. With modern sequential gearboxes shifting takes milliseconds and thus have little delay on the duration you can apply power to the wheels. However, with manual gearboxes and older automatic gearboxes shifting might take considerably longer (for manual gearboxes this depends a lot on the driver). If you have your gear ratios closer together you have to shift more often on each straight and this can mean you might lose precious time during which you can't apply power to the wheels. You're gain on having more power can be lost because you can apply it less often. This is something to take into consideration.
When it comes to the actual power/torque curve. This is something more difficult to determine as it requires you to know the torque curve of the car you want to adjust the gearing for. To make this point clear imagine one car with a very high revving engine with a large turbo that only works well at high RPMs. This means there is a very high peak power without much power at low and mid RPM. This is similar to many F1 engines over the past decades and that is also mostly true for other racing oriented engines. However, road cars nowadays can have different turbo configurations (tri-turbo, turbo's with variable geometry, electric turbo's, etc.) that reduce turbo-lag and can massively increase the power output at lower and especially mid RPMs. The result can be that your peak power isn't as much a peak and might be more like a plateau. In this case having longer gear a bit further apart can still result in having (close to) peak power all the time.
Knowing these two things is important in deciding gear ratios. But for most racing cars and drivers that don't shift manually the principles in the video will apply with no problem.
I like to use the stock ratios but adjust the final drive. I feel that the manufacturer got the gears matched to the caracteristics of the car pretty well to begin with i just tinker to even them out a bit
Yeah, actually that is what i was thinking. But, how a beginner like me can figure out all these details to determine the best set up?
@@camilobermudez6683 Watch the torque/power curves. If your engine gives top power at a very narrow band at the top of the rpm graph, look for a close gear ratio at those high RPMs to keep your car for as long as possible within that power band.
If it's more of a plateau/wider area where power peaks (instances the OP was talking about with more modern street cars where high power is available across a wider band of RPM than, in, say, a F1 car would have) then you can aim for a somewhat wider gear ratio that will net you better acceleration in first gear (being shorter than with a CGR) while extracting some extra kph off your highest gear (being longer), yet keep your engine in that optimal RPM band where it's power is peaking.
This video also shows the general idea of how to set your car in general, but tracks also matter a lot, because it's not the same driving on a slow track full of turns where acceleration is everything than in a very fast one with long straights where top speed is king. You have to tailor your transmission not just to the power curve of your engine, but also with the track you're about to drive at in mind.
I already know most of the things you present in your videos, but the way you do it is just fantastic, I love it!
Thank god your channel exist and your videos like this exist.
I recently found the charm in racing games, specifically the simulator ones and I know nothing about driving and such details.
Thanks for creating this channel and this video.
agreeeeeeee
Never used to have a clue on the ratios etc, so just used to piss about with them and hope it was right (in career only). It never was and I'd always end up screaming down a straight at about 90 with the engine sounding like a crying child. Thanks to this, I can go a little more into it and improve my times and placings. Life begins at 40, and a little help from Viperconcept...
OOOOH THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED
THANK YOU MAN
Bunta??? Is that you???
David Bieros Of course.... (except not really)
Gran Turismo developers should've included these kind of tutorials in their games. The first Gran Turismo I played was Gran Turismo 3 A-Spec, but I didn't own that game. Gran Turismo 5 and 6 were the first ones I owned and got into (I missed out on the GT4), but I never bothered much with those settings shown here because of my lack of knowledge about them. Once I came across your channel about 3 years ago I've been paying attention and learning a few things, here and there about those settings, racing line and etc. I could've also done my research on my own too, but I like how you explain them, teach and give tips. So thank you very much.
Another thing, I'm not aware if you have any video about manual shifting which I would love see and learn about it. I've been trying to race using manual shifting now, but It doesn't look like I'm doing it right because: when I downshift sometimes it kind of hit redline/stays revving the engine and I have to either brake or upshift again. So I'm probably downshifting when I shouldn't(?). Good thing I don't drive in real life yet or else :D
Just setup my nissan gtr nismo 1000+hp rally car today :)
Watched viperconept's suspention tuning video and got the lap times down from 1:50.6**
to 1:45.*** in gt6 at Nordwand K Trail ! Thx Viperconcept!
* = I will post the correct time tomorrow since im in the bed.
I saw this video, then I setup my transmission for a friendly tournament... Then... I shared with two friends and they feel really good! So... I think now I mastered the transmission. The car feels perfect; on the slower part of the track i'm on 1st gear and at the end of the longest straight the car is on 6th gear nearly from the top revs... BMW Z4 on Yeongam Corea.
Thanks, Viper!! We need more videos like this. I saw the old video of setups, also helpful. But this is really necessary... One specific video on every single area.
Thank you for this! A suspension setup guide maybe? :3
This video is amazing ! At 100% difficulty I was losing over two seconds a lap at Laguna Seca to the AI in the GT1 Merc in project cars 2. I put your exact gear ratios in as per the video and I’ve gained over two seconds a lap just from the ratios. Now I can race my favourite car in PC2 and be competitive with AI at 100%. Thank you so much and if you want to share a full set up link or video for the GT1 Mercedes that would be lovely haha
These videos are awesome! No one else makes these kinda videos! Keep them going!
Adding the funny stuff in was absolutely brilliant!
Thanks for the cookie! I always think that the main goal with transmission setup is to have approximately the same gap between gears to avoid holes in acceleration...
And in the real world, one of the best final ratio for street legal car is 4.444 or 4.777 for slow tracks to maximize the acceleration.
Keep in mind that it is the ratio between the gear ratios what has to be close not the difference, going from a 3.0 to a 1.5 is the same as going from a 1.0 to a 0.5 although the difference is less on the latter. In addition to that you should try to have a bigger ratio of gear ratios on the first gears (you can tolerate more difference in lower gears because of the increased torque at the wheels and very close 1st and 2nd gear might leave you with a useless 2nd) than on your final gears (a big difference in 5th to 6th is done in street cars for fuel economy but renders your last gear useless).
Hello. I learned so much from your videos!!! This one, LSD, Suspension, and the racing line with the other great videos on racing tactics and racecraft in your channel. I learned so much. Thank you for the knowledge. I play raceroom, and I am very happy I found your channel. I am a big fan. 🚘
Thanks alot. Please make a whole series "How to setup your car with Viperconcept". Would be awesome.
I think it's important to mention shift times as well. A super fast shifting dual clutch transmission can get away with the close gear ratios, but a standard manual transmission will lose more time in the shifting that it gains from staying in the power band longer.
Thank you ! You're videos are very helpful and makes me understand a little bit more about seting cars :)
a VERY good guide for all newbies, man I cannot thank you enough for these!
11:15 I need an hour of gameplay footage of that sound with those close gears
Thanks for the cookies man ! I love your videos !!
Just the information I always needed. ViperConcept Thank You very much buddy.
Great video tutorial, as always. Viperconcept really makes quality content.
This is the kind of content I subscribed to, great job!
For any American viewers, during the gear ratio explanation, the comma is a decimal point.
I've leaned more of gearboxes in this 14 minutes then the 14 years that I've been living for
being reminded of gear ratio is good refresher, and just remembered that i started learn about gear ratio for sake of conquering suzuka in GT4 back then and i realized, different track could be different gear ratio as well to adjust car's character and driving style to more optimized *take the cookies
Thank you viper! Can't wait for next explanation video 💜
Everyone in the comments saying “gt4 soundtrack bringing back memories” while I’m here playing gt4 in 2018. Lol.
Im here playing Gt 2 in 2020
2:14 You can also understand those numbers as the amplification factor of the torque from the engine:
2.150 would mean that the engine delivers 1 N.m of torque to the gearbox and then the gearbox delivers 2.150 N.m to the differential.
Great info and sense of humor. Thanks VC
That cookie was good, thank you professor Viper😃
I already know how to set it up but still watching your video ✌
Amazing job viper!!!
Thanks to you, I am improving my skills and understanding more and more in this beautiful world of motorsport :) keep it big. Cheers
Thanks for the time for making these videos, they are very usefull! Cheers from Chile dude!
Pretty sick intro, quite retro if you ask me
when i used to play forza 4 (i miss it so fucking much :c) i didn't know shit about gear ratios, so when i got into the tuning part, i used to just input random values and expect for the best.
but now i understand even more clearly!
thank u Viper
thats a lot of revolutions, comrade
damn that intro hit home
7:36 the song that every gt player must know
The intro tho 💙
Thanks Viperconcept! :)
Great lesson vip! Thank you!
What this video doesn't mention, is that in some games, changing the gear ratios involves a bit of a a tradeoff between top speed and acceleration.
For example, in Need For Speed: Pro Street on my Wii, I used something of a mixed setup with my drag racer, an 873 BHP 1968 Dodge Challenger R/T: The first 2-3 gears go by fairly quickly, while the last 3-4 gears (It's a 6 gear car, with my setup) go by fairly slowly. Of course, I'm still able to do a quarter mile in 7.2 seconds, and a 13.4 half mile, so it's not all THAT slow...
I have it set up like that so that the first 2-3 gears let me get off the line quickly, and the remaining 3-4 gears get me a higher top speed. At the end of the quarter mile, I'm going at about 200 MPH, while the end of my half mile only sees me doing about 210-220 MPH. That's a fairly sharp drop on the acceleration curve, but it works perfectly with my driving style.
This is a huge improvement over what I used to have: Before I really got into the gearing, I was running into an issue, where my car was taking almost 12 seconds to do the quarter mile, and it was redlining on 6th gear at about 170 MPH by the end of it. I couldn't even do a half mile at all, since my engine would blow (It's a mechanic in the game that redlining for too long, normally about 10 seconds, would grenade the engine, and the half mile would've had me redlining for almost triple that). By lengthening all the gears, not only did I increase my top speed, but I was able to get my race times reduced by almost 2 seconds on the quarter mile.
All thanks to proper gearing...
you are a wizard (viperconcept)
Thanks for that video, i was always wondered how to setup transmission especially if you upgrade the horsepower...
If I become a good racer, I'll come here to challenge you! hahaha
Thanks for all of it!
Rally cars have even extremer Close Gear Ratios!!
Thx for the Cookie Viper ;) you're Brilliant as always
There is an algorithm to figure the correct ratio by multiplying and by 1.5 or 2 then dividing by speed of gear to give you the correct number to set. I don’t know correct order but it is a way to figure to correct number
What about setting gears for different corners and considering the deceleration effect on the differential. For example i set the diff to induce oversteer while decelerating so i can have better turn in in a corner. But if i change gears mid corner i might end up over steering too much cause of the small deceleration that occurs while changing gears.
Liking the new intro, keep it short!
Hype per il video sulle sospensioni
Fantastico ahahah
Thanks for the cookie fam
#viperconcept
Thanks for your time. It helped me alot. Keep going !
Question : Do you collect these kind of videos in a playlist? If not - can you :) ? They don't have a special name so it's difficult to find them
Tune to the individual track to not bog out of turns or hit the limiter soon before a braking zone.
I feel like the subject wasn't covered all the way but nevertheless it was highly educative in not boring way :)
This is brilliant thank you!
Great video thank u. Love the ridge race style music
I could really really use one of these videos for rebound and compression damper settings.
I know that’s more advanced and nuanced, but that’s the one part of setting up a car that I don’t understand at all 😂
0:21 is that my favorite Ferrari in my favorite color style? 😍😍😍
Thank you for the cookie👌🏻
Another fantastic video. 👍
this is actually really helpful, thanks
Thanks mate!
Will you do a full setup video (or reupload)? I think that would help alot of people (including me)! :D
Thanks for the cookie :)
Very great video!
May I ask you about:
Which drivetrain should I apply the Close gear ratio setup?
What is the alternative to a Close gear ratio setup if the car I want to apply isn't compatible with this type of Transmission setup?
Like for that soundtrack😉
Grazie mille viper!
Hey, i like the new intro
Thank you.
Hello viperconcept, very good, helpful, detailed content. Have you been thinking about doing Rfactor 2 game analysis just like it was with Iracing or Project cars 2? Hoping for respond and cheers from Poland ;)
and close gear ratio make a fast limit top speed when you go in long straight line
uffff I need to re watch it a lot times more. They are still numbers for me. I'm familiarized with short and long gear ratio but how can you set it up so well at once!??? :OOO
Short tracks: Short gear ratio for acc.
Long tracks: Long GR for Top S.
Note: you can setup both "close short" gear ratio and "close long" gear ratio.
You just setup the top speed with the final gear. ;-)
viperconcept Guess F1 games haven’t taught me damm but thank the racing lords you’re here
i generally run longer gear ratios on all tracks and tune my cars for ultimate grip and stability and acceleration
fact proven when i made a TVR tuscan race spec car in GT5, it was the 1st time i went sub 6:30 on the tourist ring in a road car (general laps were 6:10-6:20)
you should have heard all the hate i got in online lobbies full of bugattis and the like, sure they would beat me on the starting straight, but once the corners began i would pull away heavily, and people who tried to keep up generally died hitting the barriers
that TVR had a 5 speed gearbox if i recall correctly, it accelerated to 190mph insanely quickly and went 215 flat out, that's with 607hp 445lb-ft and 895kg :D
i was also *the* person with the fastest veyron on gt5, that is until i gave the tune away
shit went 285mph+ on it's own with no drafts, and it would pull away in every race
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Awesome tutorial Viperconcept - but as someone that is already near being a PRO driver, yet nowhere near being an ALIEN. As a GENERAL RULE for yourself, do you prefer to setup the final gear down the longest straight to BOUNCE on the rev-limiter for a short period - but assumes then that all other gears are even quicker on the rest of the track. Or do you prefer that you DON'T QUITE? REACH the top speed of the final gear at the end of the straight, if it's either a 4, 5 or 6 gear-box car, and you can change the gear ratio's for it?
Ehm... not offense but I think you confuse the concept of "final gear". Maybe I'm misunderstanding your comment.
I mean, for example, a car with 6 gears, the 6th gear isn't the "final gear". The final gear is a tool that you use to increase or descrease the speed of ALL the gears.
However, to answer to your question, if you hit the rev limiter on the highest gear on straight, that means you failed the transmission setup, because it's too short. In any case you don't have to hit the rev limter at max speed.
For that reason I suggest you to do some practice laps before racing to understand the top speed you'd reach on the longest straight of the track. Then, you can setup the transmission.
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Awesome Tutorial
does it work the same with the engines from honda with and withoud the vtec ?
Do this kind of videos but of the suspension setup
ito9085 he has a few on suspension, just search his channel
Nice vid 😀
Close gear ratio, useful for GT3 cars or not? What Mercedes where you test driving in?
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So this means with less powerfull cars I start with lower numbers and higher gaps between the frist 2-3 gears and later on keep the higher gears closer together? Or are they all spread out more? I try to setup an Audi Quattro, but to be hones in Forza Horizpn 4 wich will not be your favourite game... but maybe you can help me anyways with that mission?
Whats was the last game used, when you are chasing the Porsche?
Thanks, this really helped me
GT4 music Soo gooood
Nice intro!
Great video
I'll give you thumb up for the metalslug gif :)
thank you!
I have a question, What would be the best gear ratios/ transmission settings for a car that is 270HP and wants to power slide corners, and have great acceleration coming out of corners. I have played a bit with the setting and with what I have learnt from here, but I am finding it difficult to get the best transmission, can anyone help please!
so if i put like 1.000 in the 1st gear, 1.500 2nd gear, 2.000 3rd gear and so on, what would happen?
Now that's pretty neat
very helpful