The Uncommon Traits That Make A GENERATIONAL Athlete
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- Gil's Arena Explains What Makes A GENERATIONAL Talent as Gilbert Arenas & The Gil's Arena Crew debate the difference between a generational and supremely talented NBA Player and explain what differentiates once in a generation guys like LeBron James & Victor Wembanyama from superstars like Steph Curry & Nikola Jokic.
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No way they said the words "Generational Talent" and their main arguments are height and body size 😂😂
And athleticism. And later Gil moved the goal post by adding motor.
curry damn near changed the whole way the next gen played ball 🤦🏻♂️
Your proving his point if curry changed next gen basketball, that means that there are kids out there trying to do the same thing So in due time next 10 years, you probably will see another curry
@@Looville 10 years means Steph was a generational talent.
Steph absolutely did change how everyone plays ball now.
@@Looville Well by that logic people played to be like Mike and we had Kobe, and so forth so does that mean their not generational talent? Seems to me he should have said generational ATHLETE or freak genetics that only comes once in a while.
@@ForeverEliitebro one player 🤦🏿♂️ we’re talking a whole generation of kids trying tb like Steph. YOU CAN NOT BE LIKE BRON OR SHAQ ETC. The conversation isn’t that hard to understand
First off, we’re talking about generational TALENT. Talent = skill. We aren’t talking about generational physicals, that’s a different conversation. Secondly, Nobody can shoot, or create space off the ball the way Steph can or even come close and in the near 80 years in the league’s existence Steph is the only unanimous MVP. How the hell is that not generational talent?
Talent and skill are not the same thing. You can’t acquire “talent” through hard work and discipline.
@@kesleyparker5368Talent definitely means skill fam😂
Yes but the point of including Steph is that through practice hypothetically anyone can attain the jump shot and off ball movement. No amount of practice will make Steph 6’9, 240.
@@TheWick412 There's things other than size and athleticism that can't be taught. Some people have an innate feel, touch, processing speed, and hand eye coordination that allows them to further develop specific skills to outlier levels. Steph is 6'2 and has put himself in top 10 conversations. That's a ton of hard work, yes. But he's gifted compared to his peers.
that's what happens when you got guys who barely finished high school trying to speak intelligently...english is not their first language
By that logic Mugsey Bogues is a generational player right? A 5'3" NBA starting point guard, which is an once in a lifetime accomplishment historically.
yes. Mugsey and then 20 something years later who came? Nate Robinson? (hope he gets that kidney) but I don't understand why ppl are so upset at this take. He's not throwing shade at any player not deemed generational.
@@Brilliance728 Nate is 5'9 not 5'3. That's a huge difference and a stupid comparison on your part
A generational talent is among the absolute best players of his era. Muggsy didn't have the opportunity be among the best of his era, so he's not generational.
@@penkima4923but curry is the best shooter ever then it’s not about physicality
If Kobe not generational , Mike not either
What about the word generational means pure athleticism????
Callin curry an average talent is WILD
Some of the best handles and greatest shooter.
@@SCOOBYGD for Gil to act like that level of consistency or IQ could be replicated.
Stephs ability to shoot in the multiple defensive eras he has is unparalleled
Where in the video did he call him an average talent ???
@@user-dd7no7ul1d it’s in the literal thumbnail and Gil spent 5-7 minutes talking about anyone being able to recreate Curry’s skill set and ability
@@Waffles19SDStill doesn’t make him a generational talent. He wasn’t consensus number 1. He became an all time great player through hard work and perseverance. Still doesn’t make him a generational talent. Same way MJ wasn’t, Len biles was though
If Curry is avg than Gil is a bum
Facts
Curry is an avg athlete by NBA standards bro.
He’s average like Gil said, he put in hard work which is why he’s successful. What’s special about Curry’s body or athleticism? That’s all him & his work.
@@Supreme36074 do you know the definition of avg? You can find avg on every neighborhood. Curry single handily changed basketball. He’s the reason why every kid & pro shoots 3 nonstop. If you can name a bunch of players with the same amount of 3’s made he be avg. He’s the top dawg by far.
@@usmcmikeco0651 Okay if he’s avg name another player with the same amount of 3’s made. He’s avg it should be easy to find another one right. I’ll be waiting on a name.
Generational means someone who is so far above their competition that we only see that level of dominance once in a generation, nothing to do with anything else. You can't be like Tiger? If you can be like Steph, you can be like Tiger.
You can't be like Tiger, but every team has shooters now and in the past.
You cant be Tiger bro. Chill tf out
I get what Gil is saying. There's a reason we say hard work beats talent if talent doesn't work hard. Generational talent has nothing to do with work ethic and skill.
@@ps9404but you do understand that Tiger is the definition of working hard in order to become generational
You make no advances in golf without hard work
lol so change the definition from Gil’s and then say he’s wrong because what he’s saying doesn’t fit your definition? Alright got it 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Acting like generational talent is only through physical traits is so stupid. We’ve never seen anyone shoot like Steph he’s generational. Skill is definitely a factor because if everyone could easily be so skilled at shooting, dribbling, having a post game, playing lockdown defense, then why don’t they do it? Some people are generational because they have a skill no one can easily match
Curry aint of freak of nature. U telling me reggie miller couldnt shoot lights out if he was allowed to revolutionize the game in the 90s? Then u gotta take into account the people who can shoot 3s but could care less about shooting 7 threes a game
@@christiancrews4278Not off the dribble like Steph.
@@christiancrews4278Reggie couldn’t create space like Steph he was mostly catch and shoot or pull up mid range , curry is a freak of nature, and u don’t get a unanimous MVP by just being a great player
How can the best shooter EVER according to them, not be generational.
@christiancrews4278 curry's 3 point percentage and where how many types of 3s he can take and the range. Come on man. Reggie is great but curry greatest 3 point shooter all time
The fact it’s nobody in there to defend Curry is crazy ,
Man said Mahomes isnt generational 🤣 just putting they foot in their mouth the whole segment 😭
Yup. His arm talent, which is 80% of what matters for QB athleticism, is the definition of generational.
to bad the nfl doesnt play defense any more! id like to see patty play back in the 70s thru the 90s! it would be a different story!
@@JamesWoodring-mu2iz last season had some of the lowest scoring avgs in years. bro watch the games instead of just clinging to narratives
@@WastedBananas lol ur user name sums up why ur comment is wrong! lol the average points a nba team scores a game in the last 4 years is about 112 points per game! facts! as a sports historian how many blowouts have we seen this post season? lol watch the games and use ur real name when you comment! jr!
@@JamesWoodring-mu2iz we're talking about the NFL. do you have memory loss?
A lot of teams have tried to mimic Steph Curry and they all have failed so I would say he is a generational talent.
He's not a generational talent. He is a great player though who put in hard work. He's 6'3 with a regular build. Shaq, Lebron, MJ, Wilt, Kareem, Magic, etc those are generational talents.
@@richarddrewwaltoniv You can work as hard as you want you will never shoot the ball as well as Steph Curry. It's natural talent combined with hard work.
Magic wasn't some crazy athlete, there have been guys who are 6'6" who can jump like MJ, there have been players with athletic ability and size similar to LeBron. That's not what made any of the players generational talents
Homie Ray Allen was Steph before Steph as far shooting the ball and prime klay Thompson shot the 3 just as good as Steph. Shooting the ball at a elite level can be mimiced@@Steve_R418
@@richarddrewwaltonivbad take your wrong lol
@@richarddrewwaltonivMental acuity is as important if not more so than just pure Physical prowess!! Especially in sports.
Gil’s full of shit, he’s all over the place too many inconsistencies in his statements. He just loves his own voice.
Hes too afraid to admit when hes wrong, fragile ass ego.
ITS FUNNY HOW I WAS THINK THE SAME, GIL JUST TALK , he is ALL OVER THE PLACE SMH
Thats literally his work now
That’s all 😂
I disagree. Gil has legitimately good points...he just absolutely stinks sometimes at articulating them. 😂
All generational players put in the work. It's not automatic. Gil argument is dumb
Nah a generational talent is somebody you can’t match if you did the same kind of workouts they did
Wrong
Gil is not arguing..skip bayless and Steven a have non pro sports playing folks thinking they know more than the one who playing ..I get it but stop it
@@CamPerryso Jordan ain’t generational then? Shaq not generational either Timmy either Ai either Tom Brady either Floyd either
You can mimic anyone. That's what most athletes do. Doesn't mean you will be as successful or as talented as the people you mimic. No one has done what Steph has done before. And while people have tried to mimic him since, no one has successfully done so. So that makes him a generational talent.
lol the nba hasnt played defense in 20 years! curry would be average if he played in the 80s and 90s! facts!
Ray Allen?
@@JamesWoodring-mu2iz and that comment suggests either you don't know/watch basketball or you are simply a troll. In either case, have a nice day.
@@brandonjames8738 what about him
@@sonnyqsoul as a sports historian i punk clowns like you on a daily basis! not a troll jr! please reply!
They said Steph isn't generational 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
HATERS
He’s not bro. He was a 6’3 pg drafted 7th overall who couldn’t stay healthy he worked
@@niriboy8952he definitely is but ight lil bro
@@niriboy8952 Steph has hit 1,000 more threes than the next guy. And the ability to work that hard, is a talent.
His game can be mimicked everybody shooting 3s now . That’s what Gil means smh 🤦🏾♂️ nobody can mimick wembys game.. nobody in todays game can damn near average a quadruple double
Curry’s hand/eye, eye depth, shooting is truly generational.
It’s what makes him the greatest shooter ever , including hardwork .. but hardwork isn’t generational.
@@Supreme36074 😂😂😂😂
lol the nba hasnt played defense in 20 years! curry would be average if he played in the 80s and 90s !
@@JamesWoodring-mu2izu sound stupid by that logic a lot guys in today era would be average LeFlop too 🤣
Steph curry is generational
U motherfucker just be disagreeing cause you can. Fuking Chris Jackson did the same shit steph doing. U dumb
I concur
generational doesn’t mean you can’t mimic 🤦🏻♂️ it means a player defined a certain generation of the game
Sounds like I might disagree. A generational talent, is just a player among the very top players of an era. Some of who you can try to mimic like Steph, or some of who you can't mimic like Shaq.
Gil just talks for the sake of it. In his and McCants minds generations are only marked by being physically dominant. You can't call Steph the greatest shooter ever and then say he's not generational.
Greatest 3pt shooter of all-time (you shoot and you pray he miss type shit) with no one close to his volume AND efficiency, who has helped make every team and they momma shoot more 3s in games and arguably the best point guard in NBA history isn't considered generational? Gotchu, makes perfect sense
lol cause the nba hasnt played defense in 20 years! as a sports historian all you modern day nba fans are just watching a 3 point shooting sht show ! lol the pansy a s nfl has joined the nba as piss poor examples of once great competition!
Arenas wished he was a generational talent 😂
Gilbert is a troll. He knows he's gonna get views from getting eviscerated in the comments for his abysmal takes. 🤦🤣🤣🤣
@@psychedelicvault6951No you just dont comprehend my boy. yall too busy glazing
@@usmcmikeco0651 😂😂😂
You don’t wish you were a generational talent… he made the league what about you?
Everybody wants to be a generational talent... 🤔
Why wouldn't you want to be
Jokic and Luka are generational talents...their basketball IQ and ability to put up stats against players with twice their athleticism and speed, makes them anomalies at the highest level...Jokic and Luka are prodigies.
And you just confirmed gil's comment are how would the chat know what a generational talents is😂😂😂
@rockjm9876543210 yeah, but I actually know Gil and I played college and professional basketball, clown...THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU, MR SUPER FAN...STAY IN YO LANE, CLOWN.
Dude said Joker is a prodigy lol da fck
@@anthonnalleng6511He is...
@@BRaggles whatever you say sir lol
Nah, they knew Kobe was different (i.e., generational talent) because they drafted him out of high school. That was an uncommon move for NBA gm's back in the day.
Kobe is literally the most skilled offense player ever ,no one has displayed the mastery Kobe had from 04-12, to say he’s not generational is foolish,we won’t see another Kobe for 100 years, same with curry , when ever they agree it’s bias
there was players before kobe who got drafted out of high school
Nobody can be the next Steph nobody shoots like him and his handle is as good as any Guard in nba history
And he was still never number 1 in the league. Kd came he won 2 finals mvps, didn’t come in dominating, and had a short peak.
lol who cares the nba hasnt played defense in 20 years any players can get 30 40 a night!
@@darylvondutch6096Who is the only unanimous mvp we have ever seen? That’s not #1? Back to back mvps aren’t #1?
@@EZMONKEY04 at what point was he better than bron or kd? Bron was supposed to be the first unanimous mvp do ya history. And guess what he’s still not generational 😂
@@darylvondutch6096 Supposed to and was are 2 different things.
I think they’re scared of contradicting Gil cause no way😂
Exactly
rashad isnt
Apparently someone needs to educate Gil on what a generation is.
It's also important to define, what basketball talent is.
My definition of generational talent is someone has never seen before or only come around once.
Only comes around once every generation.
So someone like steph no one has better shooting he has 1000 more threes than the guy trailing him and that guy is retired😂😂😂
Where Gil is losin me is where he’s only considering Freaks of Nature for being generational talents.
Steph changed the game
golden state warriors did ... steph was missing the playoffs every year until klay got there while blake griffin won roy and was getting all the shine.
@@justthatguy1808 ok i understand that . But players was going for the dunks . Players after the cook fast break threes, no look , logo 3 c
Nah. The rules committee changed the game
@@user-qz8yx8vg8s u have to have an impact on the game for them to change it 😂😂😂 Jordan rules
@@terrellgaither8699 Are you implying that the Pistons changed the game?
Jerry rice was a generational talent.
No he worked hard, he had nothing generational, Megatron was generational, Moss
Gil equates “generational” to mean only athleticism. Curry and Joker have hand eye coordination that can’t be replicated, which is what makes them generational talents.
What's makes Steph generational isn't physicality it's his Hand Eye Coordination there's a reason despite exploding 10 years ago we still haven't seen anyone come anywhere close to him as a shooter
Steph is among top players in the league, when counting steps taken on the floor during games. And Dray said, Steph's physically very strong. Those coupled with endurance to practice shooting and other things for hours and weeks and years.
I agree, when gil taked about him not being replicated, hell i dont even see people in college thats watching him, being anywhere close to replicating him , GENERATIONAL
A generational talent does not have to be a freak of nature. He just needs to to be an outrageous player who is basically unstoppable. Jokic is a 6'11 guy who is basically the best passer in the league. He is the only center in the history of the game that can play point guard. He is slow, but he has generational strength. The guy is incredibly strong and powerful.
Yeah, but he's Euro, so he doesn't count, because this is a black show.
Don't think he had incredible strength and power , just aren't any real bigs opposing him
Is sounds weird having McCants agree with Gil
That alone should tell you the take is wild 😂😂😂😂
Dark skin vs light skin Dats all dat is RAY😁
Steph Curry has CENTENNIAL hand eye coordination. No amount of practice can make a normal human shoot like that.
steph is no doubt generational tf is gill smoking
Don't forget Usain bolt freak of nature there is no way a guy that tall should be running that fast.
Thats a perfect example right there. Another example is Mike Tyson. Tyson's height was more natural for a lower division but he ruled the division for a period of time. Those are generational talents. People acting as though its a slight to say Curry isnt generational even if you acknowledge his body of work with the 3 pointers.
Now we just throwing around our own words around with our own meaning. “Generational” 😂
no generational = physical freaks and they explained it clearly.
Lebron
Shaq
Jordan
Magic
how many players play like them?
NONE.
so thier points stands.
Curry IS a generational talent. There is. NO ONE in the HISTORY of the LEAGUE who can shoot like him. He's been in the league almost 20 years and NO ONE has been CLOSE.
Facts.
I'd say for at least the last ten years... present day and years to come Curry has helped change the way the game is played
Basically the definition of generational talent
no he isnt. it was curry and klay and steve kerr LOL curry by himself was missing the playoffs yearly with monta ellis. do you think it is a coincidence
1. curry has never made the playoffs without klay
2. klay is the 2nd greatest 3 point shooter ever.
steph and klay are basically reggie miller and ray allen on the same team and thats why they BOTH used to kill everybody.
it wasnt just steph and therefore steph isnt a generational talent its better to say he is a generational shooter just like kyrie is a generational ball handler and both those attributes are skill based.
@@justthatguy1808I agree with what u said just not the last part but it’s fairly minor I guess… if someone isn’t a generation talent then just let it be and call them whatever they exceed it at. Which in case of Steph being “the greatest shooter the nba has ever seen”. Making unique classifications for a particular skill set as being generational is just kinda weird to me cause in my opinion it brings down the value of the term “generational talent” shit if we doing that Kareem isn’t a generational talent anymore u can actually just classify him as a generational post scorer…
@@kennethfountain5470
generational talent = star or superstar numbers as a rookie.
jordan
shaq
kareem
hakeem
magic
bird
lebron
if it took you 3 4 5 6 years to reach superstar numbers than you arent a generational talent youre a mofo who worked hard
curry
giannis
jokic
@@justthatguy1808compelling argument but you're splitting hairs and not using the word talent correctly.
Look at it this way... Shaq didn't just get the rock and stumble to the rim.
He developed a skill set.. footwork post moves through hard work
So... working hard and further development of a skill set isn't the best way to eliminate someone from being a generational talent.... it's essential
Jordan started out simply being a great scorer ....he became a generational talent
@@justthatguy1808as I said to someone else.
Numbers alone are misleading when considering generational talent
Many players have insane numbers as younger players but that depends on particular situations.
This also has to be considered generational players also have a huge impact on the game for the generation that follows them
Curry may not be a generational talent physically, but his shooting/stamina/humility has generational qualities. You can shoot as many 3s as curry during practice, but his efficiency and shot making is generational. It can’t be duplicated. His stamina is unmatched and there’s no guard in this game that is as great of shape he’s in. His humility because he’s always aware and knows where he stands in the game. To me that’s generational but what do I know, I’m just a fan
He's definitely a generational talent physically, stamina is part of it. Just because he doesn't jump outta the gym doesn't mean his reflexes, eyesight, smarts or the combination thereof isn't off the charts.
Steph curry changed the game, he’s a generational talent. Just like Shaq and Iverson changed the game and are generational talents.
Allen Iverson is not generational…Kyrie can do everything AI could do and possibly better
Maaaaan Steph curry ain't change no damn game FOH! before steph there were shooters they just didn't have the finesse like curry did that was all the NBA needed a puppet face for 3 pointers and that was curry but that don't mean he change game. Big men before curry were shooting 3's stop following all the sheep's who think like you smh
@@zkickpush you’re buggin. So what players changed the game if Curry isn’t one of them?0
@@Turtle_Animal DIrk, kobe, MJ, Kareem, Shaq, walt, iverson... guys like Curry, harden, KD DON'T COME CLOSE TO THEM
@@Turtle_Animaliverson was generational lol he was five foot 10 inches, 165 pounds and thats being nice,elite speed with and with out the ball elite quickness and agilty elite vertical name a player at that height that lead the league in scoring 4 times,maybe tiny back in the 70s, kyrie is all skilled,
Physical Anomalies Aren’t The Only “Talents”… Steph’s Shooting Is 1,000% A God-Given Generational Talent
His Hard Work Allowed Him To Master It, But There Is Literally No Amount Of Work That Someone Can Do To Become That Good… He Has A Innate, God-Given Gift Of Hand-Eye Coordination & Aim
You've got a fan in me, keep 'em coming!
Magic is generational... I agree
But to say that you will never see another 6'9 point with court vision... I say Penny...6'8 with crazy court vision.
To say that Curry couldn't get to the playoffs and do well until he was surrounded by other players... well isn't that basically the same for all players that become generational . Shaq has always had at least a great 1 or 2 guard
Jordan didn't have success until the right players... coach and systems were put into place
Yes...they are blessed with certain physical attributes but without the skills and the work needed to hone those skills. Once again hard work doesn't prevent you from being generational... it's absolutely vital to the process.
Wemby being 7'4 isn't what has us thinking that he's gonna be generational.... it's his skill set... which I sure that he worked hard to develop
Penny didn't have close the court vision that Magic had.
Wemby becoming a great player, will have a lot to do with his height.
@@penkima4923I respect your.... opinion
@@dblewis1779 Magic having twice the court vision compared to Penny, isn't my opinion alone. You're alone with your opinion, and I don't respect it. I'm not afraid of saying that, unlike you.
Your take on Wemby was better, but not good enough to leave it alone without a reaction. I compare Wemby to KD. KD has a high skill-level doing multiple things, including shooting. But he wouldn't be the generational player we know he is, if he wasn't 6'11.
Lebron won nothing without great talent around him. I will say lebron had more talent on his teams than steph for all his rings. Steph made andrew wiggins look good. Wigs can't even split a double team till today
Megatron retired early but Generational for sure
So Steph’s shooting can be replicated
definitely wtf
@@Tyler-ln6ig I can’t see anybody replicating what Steph has done especially as #1
@@FL1PZ00Myou literally see dame and klay do the same thing
@@blaktye33 neither are number 1 options
@@blaktye33You sound insane comparing Klay and Dame to Steph.
Idgaf what Gil say show me a mf within the next 20 years that’s gonna make 400 threes 2 seasons that he broke his own record
In Steph’s case holler at us that he’s not generational when folks start getting close to his records!!
4:45 when did Luka become 6':10"? Also, he is slow and can't jump. I thought Gilbert said generational players are freaks of nature.....
6’9” point guard is generational, But a 7’0” point-center is not a generational what a logic Mr. Arenas 😂
Somehow I think the worst thing he said was “Luka 6’10” point guard” like come one now
Barry sanders was a generational talent and is one of the smallest players to ever be in the league … tf is Gil talking about 😂😂😂 I wish basketball mfs stop talking bout football
finally a commonsense sports fan in the comment section!
he not a generational talent just a good player
Generational Talent ≠ Freak of Nature
Yall gotta understand what Gil is saying, it would be easier to mimic Curry than mimicking Bron or Zion. There have been players who shot the lights out, the main difference is just Curry has range which one can work on. You cant work on being 6'9 250 with a 40 inch vertical, no matter how hard you try.
You can go to a talent show with your shooting but you can’t with your physical traits.
I fw Gil on most takes but Steph is the definition of gen talent
I think it’s more being great immediately soon as they got into the league. Jordan, Shaq, Lebron , kd , Luka had a dominant impact the moment they step on the court. Took Curry some time (I do think he generational)
@@BossQuis Doesn't matter if takes him 50 years after his draft to win his first MVP and title, Steph and anybody else is a generational talent.
this the dumbest shit i ever heard. nobody can mimic curry's shooting wtf goin on. generational talent does not equal freak of nature. ben simmons is literally another version of magic johnson. so Dwade is generational but steph not whaaaaat.
This dude’s tryinna lecture people with fallacious arguments. He is making up his own definition of “generational” to deflect thoughts on his bias 😂😂😂😂
By Arenas' definition LeBron is someone that can actually be replicated before Steph Curry. LeBron being 6'9 dribbling a ball making layups is very basic. Steph being 6'2 beating LeBron's team while making the rest of the NBA try to figure out how to dethrone oneself is one serious flex.
Kobe was fucking GENERATIONAL!!! He was doing it in high school. Fuck a reply.
No he’s not. We seen another Kobe before
@@CamPerry FOH, how many times you've commented that same bullshit. I seen at least 3.
@@CamPerry We saw another Kobe in the previous generation. Kobe was a generational talent.
Kobe was that guy but you saying he was doing it in Highschool doesn't mean he's generational. Kobe is generational but not because of that.
Kobe is not generational. Usain Bolt and Mike Tyson are generational talents. If you still cant get it ask some elders around you.
Dumb a*s take bruh, Steph got 4 chips and ain’t left the bay. Guys generational
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf. Shooting from range, off the dribble, shifty handles, quick. I wish more people had seen him play. He was utterly ridiculous.
Steve Nash was another super accurate shooter who unfortunately didn't shoot enough cuz the game was different back then. Handles, passing, shifty, and could flat out shoot.
A generational talent is among the very top players of the respective era. Mahmoud wasn't that. While Nash does have a case to be made.
how do people disagree with this? If you put in the work, you can become just like Curry. Hard work is not going to make you 6'9 260 with a 44 inch vert.
Gil's criteria for generational is simply athleticism that can't be recreated. But by that logic, wouldn't that mean that Jordan isn't generational b/c Kobe recreated everything about Jordan. Their measurements are damn near identical. Their game is exactly the same. Everything about them is the same. No one would say Jordan isn't generational, but by Gil's criteria he technically wouldn't be. It's a bad criteria
Mike was more athletic than Kobe. He had a 46 inch vertical to Kobe’s 38in. He also had huge hands so he could do things with the ball that Kobe couldn’t.
Jordan and Kobe a one generation apart. They are generational talents.
🥱🥱🥱
It’s so old hearing Gil spew nonsense
Steph curry, Jerry rice , Pat Mahomes are generational. All cuz Dk Metcalf is big asf and we aint seen nothing like that physically, dont mean that makes him generational. Any NFL fan would say Dk is barely making the top 5 for WR. (Justin Jefferson, Ja marr chase, Tyriek hill, Davante Adams, etc)
I think Curry is a perfect example of a generational talent; I don't think being "a freak of nature" has anything to do with it.
Mahomes is generational
Terence Crawford is generational
no hes not he would struggle if he had to play when defense was still allowed in the nfl! do you really think the modern nfl plays defense? gtf outta here!
His ability to throw the ball stepping into fading away on the run and across his body is generational.. most qbs need a clean pocket and room to step up... arron Rodgers had similar ability and he played when defense could do things they can't he won a mvp ...and if you saying Rodgers is better then pat god bless you...I dont see how different defensive style will stop his arm talent but please elaborate I'm interested to see what you mean by that
thanks for the reply easiest way i can wxplain it to you is the mel blount rule ! which the nfl started in the 79 season thats what opened up the passing games! lol marino was thowing for 5000 yard in the early 80s! and only because shula was ahead of his time. now any qb can throw for huge numbers plus you cant breathe on a qb now without getting a flag! get real here jr! go watch defense in the 70s thru the 90s and get back to me! oh i almost forgot the pansy a s moder day nfl just banned the hip tackle! jmop mahomes is great but not generational !
@@losovelidadon8691 hey jr! go google turkey jones sacking terry bradshaw ! and get back to me! lol you modern day nfl fans are a joke!
@@losovelidadon8691 hey jr! thats only ! example of real sports competition! best part is players didnt get flagged! put that in ur pipe and smoke it!
Generational talent is just that a unmatched skill level
Shaq and Wemby don't have unmatched skill levels. LeBron doesn't have an unmatched skill level.
@@penkima4923 where did I name those players?
@@danieljett3251 Where did I say, you named those players?
@@penkima4923 what is the relevance of naming those players?
@@danieljett3251 That generational talent isn't just an unmatched skill level. It's partly height, size and bodytype, as well.
Talent is generally used to refer to something that someone is naturally good at. Talent may derive from something in the genes but is more likely to have been developed, even from early childhood.
A skill may derive from a natural talent but is more usually acquired when a person becomes good at something through practice and training.
So, between Wemby and Steph, the former is a Generational Talent because of his aptitude. He is a raw talent, just based on his physical attributes alone, and with years of practice and experience, he'll be more skilled.
On the other hand, the latter, is not a Generational Talent because nobody saw him during his highschool or college days and was awestruck right away. He really got very very good and skillful because of the time and effort he put on practicing since the day he learned how to hold a basketball(since his father is a former NBA player), throughout highschool and college, after the first major injury on his ankles paired with the new coach and system that fits him perfectly, up to now.
You can either be so physically gifted that you are a one of one, or you can be so good you change the way the game is played. I don't think the latter is any less valuable a metric for the conversation.
By Gil's logic, Michael Jordan is not a generational talent. 6'6" shooting guards are common, right?
And was also a hard worker, Gil doesn't know what tf he talking about 😂
48 inch vert biggest hands .. generational talent for sure , wtf
@@northstjai biggest hand? Come on now
@@angahbg9089 Jordan's hands were the size of a center. He had a long opposable thumb that made
gripping the ball easier. (There is a video on RUclips about it). Jordan was also unusually strong and quick
for his size. Had an uncanny ability to leap and "hang" in the air, and make baskets through contact. Had one
of the highest leaps in NBA history. Generational talent for sure. The best proof we have of Jordan being a
generational talent is Kobe. Kobe is the player who emulated Jordan's style of play the most. But he fell short
of coming close to what Jordan accomplished individually on the court. He only came close via # of championships,
which is a team accomplishment.
@@cyber6sapien not even bigger than Kawhi
This doesn't make sense. Steph is the greatest shooter ever and changed the game.
I guess Gil averaging 30 points per games, means that he was a great basketball player, and not a great basketball analyst.
How many 6’3 lights out shooters from anywhere on the court that you gotta gaurd when they wake up do you know ?
Bro Gil needs to be careful with these takes. Even Mike had to work. We’ve never seen anything like Steph either.
dude said Kobe wasntr a generational talent lmao this dude kill brain cells lmaoo
Kobe wasn't generational. TMac was right there at the same time, only with an injured Yao Ming instead of Shaq.
@@user-ky7le9bf2m that has nothing to do with anything to each its own though lol
he literally isn’t he tried to be mj #2
@@Tyler-ln6ig who wasn’t trying to be jordan lmao but as I previously said to each its own 🤝
Imma kobe guy dont think he was generational talent,tmac and vince was more athletic at the same time i do think kobe was an underrated athlete tho, kobe was skilled as anyone tho could do anything on the court shoot with either hand, finish at the rim either hand,dunk on you,score from 3 pt land,midrange,post,fade-way,shoot over multiple defenders, pull up,score from the tripple threat position,had multiple counter moves, elite handles too very low turnover rate along with Jordan,kyrie is right there too me maybe better
If Steph isn’t Generational, I don’t know who is. The blasphemy in that statement is ridiculous
he isn’t his shooting is but someone can easily replicate that with work
Gilbert makes titles and subjects out of pure ignorance or as clickbait. You can't take him seriously. Steph altered the way the entire NBA plays the game. Jokic is a center who can 30 points and 15 rebounds every other day but also 9 to 12 asts. A lot of these guys glaze Lebron so much they refuse to give his rivals their props.
@@psychedelicvault6951& has nothing to do with him not being a generational talent. What does props have to do with it? He’s not saying where their place is as a player. Everyone can’t be generational or it’s really no meaning to the word. Step & Jokić are great & I wouldn’t call Jokic Lebrons rival. Things elder Lebron, Jokic’s rivals are Giannis & other 6 to 7 year guys.
Mahomes is definitely generational. That’s not hard work haha
It’s both
Thing is, it's nearly impossible to separate the two.. talent and hard work. They go hand in hand.
So manute boi, shawn bradley and Gheorghe Mureșan were generational "talent" because of their physical attributes?....ok got it
yeah they were just didn't live up to the hype
Generational talents in the NBA. I'm including those who didn't pan out. And I'm surely missing a lot.
1. Bill Russell (Had Olympic level high jumping ability)
2. Wilt Chamberlin (A mythical being)
3. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
4. Magic Johnson (Height, vision, and hops)
5. Larry Bird (Probably the least physically gifted on the group. But had the touch, vision, and cardio)
6. Ralph Sampson (Wemby before Wemby)
7. David Thompson (Skywalker. MJ before MJ)
8. Michael Jordan (Vertical and huge hands)
9. David Robinson (The greatest physical specimen to ever play in the post-merger league)
10. Hakeem Olajuwon (Incredible footwork)
11. Tracy McGrady
12. Allen Iverson
13. Tim Duncan
14. Shaquille O'Neal (Just unfair)
15. Kobe Bryant
16. Penny Hardaway
17. Lebron James (The greatest marriage of physical gifts and durability basketball has ever seen)
18. Victor Wembanyama (He doesn't make sense)
19. Nikola Jokic
20. Giannis Antetokuomnpo
21. Luka Doncic
22. Oscar Robertson (The first great physical combo guard)
23. Bill Walton (Won the league in his only fully healthy season. Won the MVP in 58 games the next season)
24. Steph Curry
25. Moses Malone (Just for his mystical understanding of rebounding)
26. Charles Barkley (6'4'' PF)
27. Kyrie Irving (The best body control of a guard I ever saw)
Kobe wasn’t a generational talent
@@CamPerry He is the definition of generational talent.
A great list. Don't think Magic had hops, though. And Barkley wasn't 6'4.
You know you got a wild take when mccants and gill on the same page
Podcast manager: guys we need more engagement
Podcast intern: how about we trigger ppl?
I guess they hired an intern, who hasn't heard Shad's takes.
Steph and Jokic are generational
no they arent thier rookie years were forgettable they didnt even win ROY or come close to it. their skill is hard work.
jokic id say is but steph no theres too many copys
@@justthatguy1808who is like them in the league
@@justthatguy1808 Jokic passed Lebron in regular season triple doubles this year and he played 9 less seasons than him. Steph Curry altered the entire playstyle of the NBA in terms of 3 point shooting. Steph and Jokic are definitely generational talents. Some great players are stars from the beginning some stars just improve exponentially in a short period time.
@@Tyler-ln6igwho are Steph's copies
Steph Curry is a generational talent. Please stop with the CAP! You can’t mimic Steph Curry.
Yes you can you can learn that. Generational is physical attributes perfectly alignment with skill.
By Gil's reasoning, Mugsy Bogus is Generational.
It’s so hilarious how many people only react to the title & thumbnail instead of actually listening to what they’re saying.
So who in the past three generations has duplicated what Steph Curry can do??? Yes there are people his size, but who has or can do what he can do?
Physical Trait? the fuck? Its called Generational TALENT, Emphasis on the last word. the fck was Gil saying?
wtf Curry is a generational talent we never seen it before
curry didnt win ROY and wasnt even a household name until his 6th year how is he a generational talent? LOL Blake Griffin is from Currys draft class and EVERYBODY knew him before Curry. Curry turned into a monster off of hard work from 2015 to right now.
@@justthatguy1808It’s not about success. It’s about impact on the game
Dude was good coming out of college. He took Davidson to the elite 8. He had bad ankles early in his career.
So is Boban also a generational player?
Yall never heard the phrase “Hard work beats Talent if Talent doesn’t work hard” ? Thats the essence of what he’s saying
Say it louder for the people in the back👌
In Steph's case the hard work met the talent which created the greatest/best shooter of all time. He has innate touch, hand eye coordination, depth perception, and processing speed that can't be taught. And because of his physical limitations he worked harder to improve his skills which were doubled in effectiveness by his innate talents. Basically talent is more than just size and athleticism.
Gill keep it 1K with people and they hate love him for it
Gil smokin that shit again
Gil said "damn mfs building 2k players now." Lol
Generation talent is SPECIFIC to THAT generation. It DOESN'T mean there won't be another or better version of/player in ANOTHER generation
The fact that they all agree with Gil is WILD. Nobody standing up for Curry at all but the host.
Gifted and General talent are 2 different things. Gilbert sounds like he is talking about Physically Gifted players.
Gifted and generational talent are much the same thing. A generational player, is somebody whose potential talent has been realized.
all Jo did was ask a question and they’re defending themselves so hard lmaooo Gil and Rashad crazy man