GREAT REVIEW! Thanks for sharing your magnificent pistol with us. I can finally afford a full blown race gun and I’m leaning towards SVI. It will be just like yours, but black and in .40! Thanks again! 👍
State of the art Open gun👍 I also have an old Para, I like it, it is a cost effective 1911 double stack and it has 100% stainless steel slide/frame👍 Fit and finish on the new Remington seem way better😊
I haven't handled one of the new ones, and mine is old but reliable as can be. I don't mean to sound critical of it in the video... I really love that old gun.
Shane, what your are paying for with a gun like that is a gun that fits your purpose better and does every thing more efficiently than a stock or unmodified pistol, less muzzle flip and recoil, better trigger pull, better sighting system, and so on.
birddog0347 I would love that pistol in 9x25 Dillion with 20 round mags . And with their sight tracker with adjustable sights but your race gun is awesome, not too many know about strayer Voight infinity down in Texas . Love that grip too
birddog0347 no , my wife would kill me . Maybe I'll win the Lottery. It's definitely on the bucket list . Right know I want a IOR Valdada recon gen 2 on a accuracy international or surgeon in 6.5 creedmore . Hey man can wish right ? Still , I enjoy what I have and take pleasure in seeing others doing the same . Thanks for sharing and pass along your passion to the next generation. I did , my son is a Sgt.in USAF security. Got his DD214 and looks like he will start work at VA hospital. I just let him borrow my sig p210 ( man that was HARD ) . SVI Makes really beautiful guns . My all time favorite firearm was my dads colt Python . Back then they were hand made ! Like your SVI , a work of art and old world craftsmanship
Thanks for the quick response! After watching your video I realized the tight tolerances and detail are evident between the factory and custom. I’ve heard bits and pieces of the svi/sti but now it makes since. I was originally just looking for a quality 9mm pistol for recreational purpose but I’m the kinda guy that buys once and cries once.. haha. There are so many brands out there it’s easy to get confused between brands. It seems like they all have pros and cons. Cz Checkmate, seems like a good gun and certainly should be reliable being a cz, however I’ve heard you have to modify them out of the box.... Then I found sti, they seem good but now I’m learning about svi... so it seems like there will always be better but you have to be willing to spend more and wait longer for that. Any suggestions?
Bradly Classen first suggestion is to find a local USPSA match and try it out with whatever you have or just go and talk to the shooters. Explain what you’re trying to do and ask to test drive a gun or two if they seem cool enough, most will just offer to let you shoot it after the match. You could also join the Brian Enos forum and find someone local to you there. If you’re in DFW, you can shoot mine. Just keep an open mind and try to find what you like. If you do decide on an SVI and need help with the order process and deciding on the options (it’s daunting) I can help you, any team Infinity shooter will help you, or you can call the factory.
It's the thumb shield, intended to keep the cuts on the slide from tearing up your skin as well as your thumb from slowing down the cycling of the slide and causing jams. They are optional on the Infinity and you can choose right side, left side, or both.
My situation was a bit unique... I was 12 months into my wait when this gun popped up for immediate sale on the bookface group. It was very close to what I ordered, but I liked it even better than the one I had ordered. I called and talked to them and made a deal to get this one instead. Right now most orders are around the 14-15 month range I think. One of my buddies got the call a few weeks back and should be getting it before 15 months total.
As I said in the video this is a SVI from www.sviguns.com and you can go there click on the gunbuilder link and create an account to then submit your design for whatever you want. They are the manufacturer of this gun, not a gunsmith... Everything is made in house from a bar of billet. The open gun like this one is the Wide Body - IMM Open Pistol. The slide cuts are called accellerator cuts, it is tri-topped, in 38 Super comp, Bianchi frame (widest option for more weight down low on the dust cover). The options are limitless, seriously, anything you want and can afford. Create an account on the site and start a new build, lots of other pics on their website to help show you some options. You can also call up there and talk to Brandon or Casey to help you make some choices if you're confused.
The Infinity is definitely a very fine firearm but is the difference between the Infinity and the Para/Remington worth the $4000+ price difference. My point is, does the Infinity shoot $4000 better groups.
Shane Boushie it is more accurate, but it’s entirely different from the para in that it’s an Open division gun and the para is a limited division gun. Apples to oranges. Now to the question of its worth, just like everything else it’s only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. To me it’s worth it. To quote Ferris Bueller “It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.” If you’ve ever wanted a Ferrari or the like but drive a normal sedan instead, it’s like that... they both do the same thing but in terms of quality there is absolutely no comparison.
@@birddog0347 you nailed it, "apples to oranges" this comparison should have never been made. Maybe a better comparison would been to an off the shelf race gun such as a EAA Elite Gold ($2406.00 msrp) or something along those lines.
Shane Boushie I used what I had available, if you didn’t enjoy it then sorry. The comparison was more about quality overall, not pure accuracy or worth.
@@calvin14888 I totally agree with you. I am just tired of people making senseless and meaningless comparisons on RUclips. Like Lets compare a tricked out Glock to a box stock XD" What the hell is the point in doing that?
Bradly Classen the “s” in both names was for Strayer, the “T” is for Tripp, and the “v” is for Voight. The original patent for the modular 2011 design was shared and they became two companies. STI was almost strictly mass production and different models while SVI focused on custom builds. (Same true today) These days the two companies have moved further apart in terms of quality , and STI has qa issues well documented over the last few years but I think they are under new management now so hopefully they turn it around. SVI is still made to order and always innovating and will make you anything you want. STI doesn’t build custom guns as far as I know. I’ve had many STI guns both factory and custom built by other gunsmiths and the custom ones were still higher quality but still not even close to the SVI. STI makes (or used to) a good off the shelf gun but it’s not anywhere near the quality of a SVI, but the price difference typically reflects that.
I have a Dillon Super 1050 press (I'll get a video uploaded soon to show what it is) that I use to make my rounds. The basic gist of it is that I bought the proper brass (Starline 38 SuperComp) and then I pick it up after I shoot it. I buy small pistol primers, VV 3n38 powder, and Montana Gold 124grn JHP projectiles and then I use my press to put them all together.
HOT SHOT 1500 not sure I understand your question. The barrel is SVI’s hybrid comp barrel with 4 ports. If it were a limited gun it wouldn’t have ports or a comp but the front sight would be attached to it. Most people call them sight trackers or island barrels.
According to the FAQ on their website... Q: Do you have a price list for your guns? A: Due to the custom nature of each pistol we request that a Gunbuilder® design be completed and submitted to the factory for a quote. If you wish to replicate a design in our photo gallery please email or call us to provide the photo number and a quote can be provided. Starting cost of our base pistol is $4200.00 with one magazine.
One gun was designed for sport. The other...all-purpose..competition and combat. Ironic. The "cheaper" gun is better for real world use. While the $6000 race gun to put chunks of metal through paper or be bounced off steel plates. :)
Technically, both were created by competitors, for competition... different classes for sure, but different price points as well. This video was not meant to disparage Para at all, I loved that gun. The point of the video at the time was to show you what you're paying extra for. I also have a SVI single stack 1911 that if I can get my hands on an off the shelf 1911 to compare it to I'll do that. My SVI 1911 has close to 20k rounds through it and is STILL tighter and just as reliable as any GI 1911 out there. The bluing has worn from the kydex and it's got high mileage, but man I would grab any SV in an instant if I needed it. The only reason it's not good for "real world use" is quite simply the price of admission and the fact that if you use a gun in self defense, even when it's righteous you're going to lose the gun to the government for an unspecified amount of time, up to permanently, thus the cheaper guns are better for that if cost is a concern. I myself own more than one SVI, but because I understand the value I wouldn't reach for it first. That has absolutely nothing to do with the capabilities... If I had "fun coupons" to throw in the wind I'd chose SVI for every gun in my house.
@@birddog0347 I really want one of these. What you are saying about losing a firearm to the government if you ever have to use it is correct. That is why my carry is the cheapest Canik that I have lol.
I have never seen such a beautiful gun before. This is a work of art.
In this video, Tim Allen shows us his professional target pistol.
GREAT REVIEW!
Thanks for sharing your magnificent pistol with us. I can finally afford a full blown race gun and I’m leaning towards SVI. It will be just like yours, but black and in .40! Thanks again! 👍
The hardest part is the wait, and the closer it gets the harder it is to wait...
That is one beautiful peace of work 💯🤙
Thank you!
That pistol is a work of art! Thanks for sharing it on here.
State of the art Open gun👍
I also have an old Para, I like it, it is a cost effective 1911 double stack and it has 100% stainless steel slide/frame👍
Fit and finish on the new Remington seem way better😊
I haven't handled one of the new ones, and mine is old but reliable as can be. I don't mean to sound critical of it in the video... I really love that old gun.
birddog0347
Don't worry you explained the 2 guns perfectly and that SVI is really awesome👍
Shane, what your are paying for with a gun like that is a gun that fits your purpose better and does every thing more efficiently than a stock or unmodified pistol, less muzzle flip and recoil, better trigger pull, better sighting system, and so on.
That thing is a piece of art.
Thank you!
Very nice piece. Never seen one before.
I have a sig p210 and a smith and Wesson 41 and I'm green with ENVY ! Sweet gun !
Thank you! I love it!
birddog0347 I would love that pistol in 9x25 Dillion with 20 round mags . And with their sight tracker with adjustable sights but your race gun is awesome, not too many know about strayer Voight infinity down in Texas . Love that grip too
They can absolutely do that, have you submitted a gun builder to get it started?
birddog0347 no , my wife would kill me . Maybe I'll win the Lottery. It's definitely on the bucket list . Right know I want a IOR Valdada recon gen 2 on a accuracy international or surgeon in 6.5 creedmore . Hey man can wish right ? Still , I enjoy what I have and take pleasure in seeing others doing the same . Thanks for sharing and pass along your passion to the next generation. I did , my son is a Sgt.in USAF security. Got his DD214 and looks like he will start work at VA hospital. I just let him borrow my sig p210 ( man that was HARD ) . SVI Makes really beautiful guns . My all time favorite firearm was my dads colt Python . Back then they were hand made ! Like your SVI , a work of art and old world craftsmanship
I don't suppose you know the screw size to attach your red dot to the mount? I've lost mine 😩
Thanks for the quick response! After watching your video I realized the tight tolerances and detail are evident between the factory and custom. I’ve heard bits and pieces of the svi/sti but now it makes since.
I was originally just looking for a quality 9mm pistol for recreational purpose but I’m the kinda guy that buys once and cries once.. haha. There are so many brands out there it’s easy to get confused between brands. It seems like they all have pros and cons.
Cz Checkmate, seems like a good gun and certainly should be reliable being a cz, however I’ve heard you have to modify them out of the box....
Then I found sti, they seem good but now I’m learning about svi... so it seems like there will always be better but you have to be willing to spend more and wait longer for that.
Any suggestions?
Bradly Classen first suggestion is to find a local USPSA match and try it out with whatever you have or just go and talk to the shooters. Explain what you’re trying to do and ask to test drive a gun or two if they seem cool enough, most will just offer to let you shoot it after the match. You could also join the Brian Enos forum and find someone local to you there. If you’re in DFW, you can shoot mine.
Just keep an open mind and try to find what you like. If you do decide on an SVI and need help with the order process and deciding on the options (it’s daunting) I can help you, any team Infinity shooter will help you, or you can call the factory.
Atlas gun works makes the best 2011 guns in the world that I know off
Thank you for the review!!! How do you compare it to Bul Armory SAS 2 Bullesteros?
Unfortunately I've never seen a Bul Armory gun in person so I can't give a comparison.
I'd like to see the muzzle flip on a double tap
You can check my other videos to see how flat it shoots.
6:22 I'm always wondering what is the name of that part between thumb safety and the slide?
It's the thumb shield, intended to keep the cuts on the slide from tearing up your skin as well as your thumb from slowing down the cycling of the slide and causing jams. They are optional on the Infinity and you can choose right side, left side, or both.
where did you get your thumbshield safety?
The thumb shield is a factory SVI option, it’s sandwiched between the frame and the grip, independent of the safety.
Sweet looking gun 👍
Thank you!
Nice gun, how long did you end up waiting for it? I'm sitting at ~12months right now.
My situation was a bit unique... I was 12 months into my wait when this gun popped up for immediate sale on the bookface group. It was very close to what I ordered, but I liked it even better than the one I had ordered. I called and talked to them and made a deal to get this one instead. Right now most orders are around the 14-15 month range I think. One of my buddies got the call a few weeks back and should be getting it before 15 months total.
Would you able to share specs on your gun and who’s your gun builder, I was planning to order a open gun next month, much appropriated.
As I said in the video this is a SVI from www.sviguns.com and you can go there click on the gunbuilder link and create an account to then submit your design for whatever you want. They are the manufacturer of this gun, not a gunsmith... Everything is made in house from a bar of billet. The open gun like this one is the Wide Body - IMM Open Pistol. The slide cuts are called accellerator cuts, it is tri-topped, in 38 Super comp, Bianchi frame (widest option for more weight down low on the dust cover). The options are limitless, seriously, anything you want and can afford. Create an account on the site and start a new build, lots of other pics on their website to help show you some options. You can also call up there and talk to Brandon or Casey to help you make some choices if you're confused.
What's the grip size for the 187
What 's the recoill spring weight u using?
The Infinity is definitely a very fine firearm but is the difference between the Infinity and the Para/Remington worth the $4000+ price difference. My point is, does the Infinity shoot $4000 better groups.
Shane Boushie it is more accurate, but it’s entirely different from the para in that it’s an Open division gun and the para is a limited division gun. Apples to oranges.
Now to the question of its worth, just like everything else it’s only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. To me it’s worth it. To quote Ferris Bueller “It is so choice. If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up.”
If you’ve ever wanted a Ferrari or the like but drive a normal sedan instead, it’s like that... they both do the same thing but in terms of quality there is absolutely no comparison.
@@birddog0347 you nailed it, "apples to oranges" this comparison should have never been made. Maybe a better comparison would been to an off the shelf race gun such as a EAA Elite Gold ($2406.00 msrp) or something along those lines.
Shane Boushie I used what I had available, if you didn’t enjoy it then sorry. The comparison was more about quality overall, not pure accuracy or worth.
@@shaneboushie4737 I had both the EAA Gold Custom and SV and the EAA aren't even close. You'll have to shoot one to understand.
@@calvin14888 I totally agree with you. I am just tired of people making senseless and meaningless comparisons on RUclips. Like Lets compare a tricked out Glock to a box stock XD" What the hell is the point in doing that?
wow, crazy how in 5 years, the manufacturing standard for mass produced 2011s has increased so much.
I’m looking at an sti Omni. What is the difference between svi and sti?
Bradly Classen the “s” in both names was for Strayer, the “T” is for Tripp, and the “v” is for Voight. The original patent for the modular 2011 design was shared and they became two companies. STI was almost strictly mass production and different models while SVI focused on custom builds. (Same true today)
These days the two companies have moved further apart in terms of quality , and STI has qa issues well documented over the last few years but I think they are under new management now so hopefully they turn it around.
SVI is still made to order and always innovating and will make you anything you want. STI doesn’t build custom guns as far as I know.
I’ve had many STI guns both factory and custom built by other gunsmiths and the custom ones were still higher quality but still not even close to the SVI. STI makes (or used to) a good off the shelf gun but it’s not anywhere near the quality of a SVI, but the price difference typically reflects that.
Infinity is about $3,000-$4,000 more lol
I wouldn’t use STI in the same sentence as SVI. SVI rules!
How do you make your own bullets? Got intrigued and fascinated that in competition you have to build your own bullets!
I have a Dillon Super 1050 press (I'll get a video uploaded soon to show what it is) that I use to make my rounds. The basic gist of it is that I bought the proper brass (Starline 38 SuperComp) and then I pick it up after I shoot it. I buy small pistol primers, VV 3n38 powder, and Montana Gold 124grn JHP projectiles and then I use my press to put them all together.
@@birddog0347 how many gr of 3n38 do you reload?
Eric Liu 10.4 with a 124grain bullet.
Heroes brought me here
Not sure I understand, but glad you're here.
@@birddog0347 The TV show Heroes. There is an agency that uses the infinity as its carry gun.
Please tell me what that barrel and slide slot is called!!!
HOT SHOT 1500 not sure I understand your question. The barrel is SVI’s hybrid comp barrel with 4 ports. If it were a limited gun it wouldn’t have ports or a comp but the front sight would be attached to it. Most people call them sight trackers or island barrels.
birddog0347 I did a little research it was called the hybrid barrel... have you ver seen it done on a Glock that you can still buy?
@@HOTSHOT-ls1bc I'm not aware of any manufacturer who does this for a glock, SVI only makes 1911/2011's and parts for them.
birddog0347 ive only seen two pictures online of one I can machine the slide but can’t find the barrel!
New captain America carries this so it has to be good
very sweet configuration. i would take exact the same
Thanks!
How does it shoot?
It shoots fantastic, extremely flat and the dot never leaves the glass and always returns to where I was aiming.
Beautiful gun but not the optics.
One day.....
How much?
According to the FAQ on their website...
Q: Do you have a price list for your guns?
A: Due to the custom nature of each pistol we request that a Gunbuilder® design be completed and submitted to the factory for a quote. If you wish to replicate a design in our photo gallery please email or call us to provide the photo number and a quote can be provided.
Starting cost of our base pistol is $4200.00 with one magazine.
And that's why it'll cost you almost $6,000 and an 18 month wait!!
Bruce Skinner an open gun from SVI will actually run you closer to 9K.
Their limited models go for around 6K.
Wait times are down around 6 months now I think.
One gun was designed for sport. The other...all-purpose..competition and combat. Ironic. The "cheaper" gun is better for real world use. While the $6000 race gun to put chunks of metal through paper or be bounced off steel plates. :)
Technically, both were created by competitors, for competition... different classes for sure, but different price points as well. This video was not meant to disparage Para at all, I loved that gun. The point of the video at the time was to show you what you're paying extra for. I also have a SVI single stack 1911 that if I can get my hands on an off the shelf 1911 to compare it to I'll do that. My SVI 1911 has close to 20k rounds through it and is STILL tighter and just as reliable as any GI 1911 out there. The bluing has worn from the kydex and it's got high mileage, but man I would grab any SV in an instant if I needed it. The only reason it's not good for "real world use" is quite simply the price of admission and the fact that if you use a gun in self defense, even when it's righteous you're going to lose the gun to the government for an unspecified amount of time, up to permanently, thus the cheaper guns are better for that if cost is a concern. I myself own more than one SVI, but because I understand the value I wouldn't reach for it first. That has absolutely nothing to do with the capabilities... If I had "fun coupons" to throw in the wind I'd chose SVI for every gun in my house.
@@birddog0347 I really want one of these. What you are saying about losing a firearm to the government if you ever have to use it is correct. That is why my carry is the cheapest Canik that I have lol.
wtf
Both guns are butt ugly...I’ll stick with my Dan Wesson. Guns are art too.