We were using cracked copies of mastercam 9 on the shop floor . These computers had internet axis . Company had paid licence for 1 address ,obviously as soon as we started using cracked copies the connection to internet alerted mastercam that then saw unpaid addresses for access was detected . Boss coped a big fine . keep your cracked copies away from sending distress signals on a linked internet..I am sure mastercam or any other system dont care about a home user,.But when you are in business its a different story.He is a complete arsehole anyway.
Every aspect is beautifully tied together to achieve that finish and precision . . . the way that machine was built and synchronized with it's Heidenhein controller, the care that was taken to install that monster machine on a solid foundation, the way the tombstone was mounted with care to a minute detail - stoning the table and the bottom of the tombstone, the prep machining of dovetails, mounting and aligning the clamping units, the way every insert, every tool is installed with care, selecting the right feed rates and speeds, coolant selection, using Mastercam to it's full potential . . . and filming all this so that it all comes together and making it look easy. The sign of a master is that he/she can make complex things look easy.
It takes a master to appreciate the art of what we do every day, Karlo! Its amazing how all of these technologies have to come together perfectly for a process like this to be successful.
I'm a software engineer by trade, so I have never run one of these beautiful machines before, but it is just amazing watching the mastery with which you and your team make these incredible parts. May God bless you more and more Titan
It always amazes me that anyone could create these machines and have them perfectly coordinate the movement of 5 axis. Then there's the software guys who worked out how to make the programs. Makes me feel like a caveman rubbing sticks together lol!
I'd like to see the setup and maintenance work on something like this. I work on a 5-axis water cutter, among many other things, and have found alignment a lot easier than I suspected due to utilization of encoders and servo motors.
When programming, does the program notify you, if you have say .001 interference with say the floor path and the end of the mill, if the tool itself would be .001 longer on the tip during the pass, very interested in learning the trade, slowly opening videos as the weeks pass, thank you for the free education
Yes the program will notify you in most cases. You can also compare your machined digital stock to your part model, to make sure everything is perfect. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the informative video Barry, I am already thinking how you are going to hold the part to machine the opposite side. Not sure what ops' you will need to do.
We have a “camera graveyard.” We even lit a gopro on fire in one video. But, to answer your question…..we 3D print our own custom Gopro housings (thanks to Trevor Goforth) and machine Lexan windows for them, which we replace…….OFTEN
Hey bro! Thanks for the positive feedback! (And yes, I recognize your youtube handle, so I know your comment actually carries weight). It really is pretty impressive how rigid this machine and setup are. After the first few toolpaths, i kept rechecking the torque on the vises, as i was a bit scared tbh. But everything has stayed tight and on point
We don't usually program from center of rotation.......we essentially use tilted work planes and tool center point control in relationship to a probed position on the stock or the part
Is Heidenhein really that good on 5-axis? Does anyone have comparison with Sinumerik? Is one of them better or both are equally capable and it comes down to preferences?
Now I see, why you've chosen a variant with A-Axis, instead of a B-Axis. It would be impossible to access negative angles with B-Axis head. Some say, that B-Axis is much stiffer, than an A-Axis, but Ibarmia seems to be rigid even with an A-Axis head. Also, I assume, Heidenhain is the best control specifically for milling machines? Because, I almost haven't seen any lathe with it. DMG Mori has about three mid-tier lathes with optional Heidenhain controls, meanwhile almost all their mills offer this one, as an option. Also, Doosan offers Heidenhain controls only for their milling machines, as I haven't seen any Doosan lathe brochure, which includes this control in option list.
Its actually a vertical technically, but can be run as a horizontal. We have 2 pallets so we put a huge tombstone on one, and left the other empty, so we can run it either way!
Barry are you recording the time spent from initial setup to until finishing stage?Just curious to know how long it will take to machine a work piece that size.
English isn't my native language and I doubt I can find proper translations for it, could you maybe explain what a "ruled surface" stands for? Because I have no idea
@@CatNolara Exactly! At any position on the surface, there exists a straight line. This way, the tool is in contact with the bottom, middle, and top of the surface at all times.
@@barrysetzer ah, now I understand. Thanks for explaining. I think another definition would be a surface, that can be made out of a flat sheet of paper without kinks, right?
The sound of cutting is not good The surface also Its steel not aluminium and clearance of movent parts such bearings in rotary axis need attention in cutting conditions
@@barrysetzer i know it One axis is not rigid enough and such a heavy machine still wants high-speed machining in the rotary axis mode without brake We will see what is visible on the surface and on the chips of your cutter it is simply large and is able to shake the system You can't fool physics buddy
.002 is two thousandths not two tenths. two tenths would be .2. Sorry watch to much drag racing and they sometimes go to .00x for thousandths to call it sometime even more depending on how close it was.
As machinists, we speak in orders of one thousandth. When we say “tenth,” we are referring to one ten thousandth, or .0002”. This is common practice in the machining industry
@@barrysetzer ah ok. I just going in real world. And saw that he did .002 and said 10th which would be incorrect. I have seen drag races won by 1 the thousandth. So I know more what it is in time since I watch more drag racing and have never done CNC.
@@barrysetzer I also know torque specs when torquing things down and inch pounds and foot pounds is a very big difference. I have some that require inch pounds like my scopes and then some like barrel nut require foot pounds. Both may say 80 yet there is a very big difference between the two.
Ahhhh, a fellow gun lover! And yes, in this video I was pointing at the .0002 on my screen and said “tenths,” and actually had a talk with the camera guys afterward about why we call it “tenths” hahahaha. Sorry for the confusion, buddy!
@@barrysetzer No worries. I have put together a lot of AR's and usually for barrel nut it is good and tight. And works for the AR. For my muzzle devices cause they go on things I have to pay Uncle Sam $200 for and wait a year I make sure they are correctly torqued on. You know don't want to send one of them down range.
As a programmer my utmost respect for the people that design these systems, they do not enough praise for how much work these systems require.
Im always amazed, myself. Especially when all axes have to be perfectly synchronized. Just incredible!
that is so True👊🏿
We were using cracked copies of mastercam 9 on the shop floor . These computers had internet axis . Company had paid licence for 1 address ,obviously as soon as we started using cracked copies the connection to internet alerted mastercam that then saw unpaid addresses for access was detected . Boss coped a big fine . keep your cracked copies away from sending distress signals on a linked internet..I am sure mastercam or any other system dont care about a home user,.But when you are in business its a different story.He is a complete arsehole anyway.
Every aspect is beautifully tied together to achieve that finish and precision . . . the way that machine was built and synchronized with it's Heidenhein controller, the care that was taken to install that monster machine on a solid foundation, the way the tombstone was mounted with care to a minute detail - stoning the table and the bottom of the tombstone, the prep machining of dovetails, mounting and aligning the clamping units, the way every insert, every tool is installed with care, selecting the right feed rates and speeds, coolant selection, using Mastercam to it's full potential . . . and filming all this so that it all comes together and making it look easy. The sign of a master is that he/she can make complex things look easy.
It takes a master to appreciate the art of what we do every day, Karlo! Its amazing how all of these technologies have to come together perfectly for a process like this to be successful.
@@barrysetzer You go Barry, I cant wait to come back out there to visit you guys again.
Nice work! People today don’t realize how important a simple stoning is for accuracy.
I'm a software engineer by trade, so I have never run one of these beautiful machines before, but it is just amazing watching the mastery with which you and your team make these incredible parts. May God bless you more and more Titan
Can’t wait to see the finishing op! It’s great to watch this part go through the process in this machine!
It always amazes me that anyone could create these machines and have them perfectly coordinate the movement of 5 axis. Then there's the software guys who worked out how to make the programs. Makes me feel like a caveman rubbing sticks together lol!
Smooooooth motion, love it!
Great Job, Barry. Thanks for Sharing, Titan team.
Thanks for watching, Ravi!
I'm talking over a decade now, but the tnc530i control was brilliant even back then.
I'd like to see the setup and maintenance work on something like this.
I work on a 5-axis water cutter, among many other things, and have found alignment a lot easier than I suspected due to utilization of encoders and servo motors.
Look at you go teaching Mastercam! Proud of you Barry!
Hahaha, times have changed a bit since we worked up on the mezzanine!
That’s is one beast of a machine🤤
That finish is almost as smooth as you Barry!
HAHAHA!
Epic job Barry
Thanks, buddy!
When programming, does the program notify you, if you have say .001 interference with say the floor path and the end of the mill, if the tool itself would be .001 longer on the tip during the pass, very interested in learning the trade, slowly opening videos as the weeks pass, thank you for the free education
Yes the program will notify you in most cases. You can also compare your machined digital stock to your part model, to make sure everything is perfect. Thanks for watching!
Great video. Can't wait to see the finished part! Did Titan say the Ibarmia is a temporary installation in the shop?
Yes, we are using the machine just to give some free education, and Ellison is offering it at a discount right off of our shop floor
@@barrysetzer will it run off the 110v 20A circuit in my garage?
@@texasermd1 LOL you may want to think bigger ;)
Can you make a video on how you price each machine rate? Do you have a formula for each machine or do you use a general machine rate?
Thanks for the informative video Barry, I am already thinking how you are going to hold the part to machine the opposite side. Not sure what ops' you will need to do.
The back side doesn't have as many features.......mainly some counterbores and flat faces! It won't be long now!
Looks good and rigid.
Rough & roll! Good machining
Wow... fascinating.. also I am so curious how does the Camera at the top able to withstand the hot chips that flew direction to it
We have a “camera graveyard.” We even lit a gopro on fire in one video. But, to answer your question…..we 3D print our own custom Gopro housings (thanks to Trevor Goforth) and machine Lexan windows for them, which we replace…….OFTEN
Amazing to watch.
You can tell how rigid this machine is because it has very little harmonics reverberating through it. Pretty sick, Barry.
Hey bro! Thanks for the positive feedback! (And yes, I recognize your youtube handle, so I know your comment actually carries weight). It really is pretty impressive how rigid this machine and setup are. After the first few toolpaths, i kept rechecking the torque on the vises, as i was a bit scared tbh. But everything has stayed tight and on point
I wonder what the process of setting centre of rotation is on a machine like that
We don't usually program from center of rotation.......we essentially use tilted work planes and tool center point control in relationship to a probed position on the stock or the part
@@barrysetzer i don’t know about Heidenhein but fanuc uses centre of rotation parameters for both TWP and tcpc.
Oh I see what you mean, actually SETTING the center of rotation parameters themselves. I misunderstood!
Is Heidenhein really that good on 5-axis? Does anyone have comparison with Sinumerik?
Is one of them better or both are equally capable and it comes down to preferences?
Now I see, why you've chosen a variant with A-Axis, instead of a B-Axis. It would be impossible to access negative angles with B-Axis head. Some say, that B-Axis is much stiffer, than an A-Axis, but Ibarmia seems to be rigid even with an A-Axis head. Also, I assume, Heidenhain is the best control specifically for milling machines? Because, I almost haven't seen any lathe with it. DMG Mori has about three mid-tier lathes with optional Heidenhain controls, meanwhile almost all their mills offer this one, as an option. Also, Doosan offers Heidenhain controls only for their milling machines, as I haven't seen any Doosan lathe brochure, which includes this control in option list.
CNC PILOT 640 and MANUALplus 620 are heidenhain's new lathe controls.
Co worker: did you crash?
Berry: Naaaahh, I was ROUGHING!!!!!!!!!
I've never rans a machine with Heidenhain controls. Is it possible to code that operational maneuver on the Heidenhain control conversational side?
No. There's no canned cycles for 5 axis simultaneous.
@@71brp84 All incremental steps is why the roughing passes sound like that. I'm getting rusty and should have been able to hear it.
When and why did you guys switch from Autodesk inventor/fusion to SolidWorks? Love the content btw!!
In Heidenhain you can use the "Cycle 32" too. The Machine drives smoother.
We did use Heidenhain's Cycle 32.......our CAM tolerances was .0002" and our Cycle 32 tolerance was .0006"
Oh yeah. Is this 5th axis horizontal? This is beautiful
Its actually a vertical technically, but can be run as a horizontal. We have 2 pallets so we put a huge tombstone on one, and left the other empty, so we can run it either way!
@@barrysetzer That's incredible. So versatile. And so massive.
Barry are you recording the time spent from initial setup to until finishing stage?Just curious to know how long it will take to machine a work piece that size.
Yes sir! At a bare minimum, we have the estimated cycle time from Mastercam! I'll make sure we share that as we finish the part!
Just amazing!
I agree!!!! Great machine!
Amazing ❤ 🥰
my god the noise that thing makes is incredible
😂 if you cant feel the sound in your feet, it isnt a Titan toolpath!
English isn't my native language and I doubt I can find proper translations for it, could you maybe explain what a "ruled surface" stands for? Because I have no idea
Think of it as a surface made up of straight lines
@@barrysetzer but it's a curved surface? Or do you mean that in any point on the surface there exists a line going through it that is straight?
@@CatNolara Exactly! At any position on the surface, there exists a straight line. This way, the tool is in contact with the bottom, middle, and top of the surface at all times.
@@barrysetzer ah, now I understand. Thanks for explaining.
I think another definition would be a surface, that can be made out of a flat sheet of paper without kinks, right?
@@CatNolara Yes! They important thing is that the surface cannot contain any "lumps," or they will be cut off
Amazing!
looks like a valve body for pumping lava or something
spain power machines
The inside space is bigger then my bedroom wow
Hahaha, it is a monster!
@@barrysetzer yeah it is. And my bedroom is tiny too of course haha
The sound of cutting is not good
The surface also
Its steel not aluminium and clearance of movent parts such bearings in rotary axis need attention in cutting conditions
It was a roughing toolpath
@@barrysetzer i know it
One axis is not rigid enough and such a heavy machine still wants high-speed machining in the rotary axis mode without brake We will see what is visible on the surface and on the chips of your cutter it is simply large and is able to shake the system You can't fool physics buddy
Why not show us the real deal inconel part? Much more impressive.
NDA’s and ITAR regulations. But we ARE showing the same methods.
Wow the amount of spam one a 22 minute old video is way out there.
Try using the Opera web browser.
@@opendstudio7141 That does nothing for spam in the comments.
Shut up and take my money….
.002 is two thousandths not two tenths. two tenths would be .2. Sorry watch to much drag racing and they sometimes go to .00x for thousandths to call it sometime even more depending on how close it was.
As machinists, we speak in orders of one thousandth. When we say “tenth,” we are referring to one ten thousandth, or .0002”. This is common practice in the machining industry
@@barrysetzer ah ok. I just going in real world. And saw that he did .002 and said 10th which would be incorrect. I have seen drag races won by 1 the thousandth. So I know more what it is in time since I watch more drag racing and have never done CNC.
@@barrysetzer I also know torque specs when torquing things down and inch pounds and foot pounds is a very big difference. I have some that require inch pounds like my scopes and then some like barrel nut require foot pounds. Both may say 80 yet there is a very big difference between the two.
Ahhhh, a fellow gun lover! And yes, in this video I was pointing at the .0002 on my screen and said “tenths,” and actually had a talk with the camera guys afterward about why we call it “tenths” hahahaha. Sorry for the confusion, buddy!
@@barrysetzer No worries. I have put together a lot of AR's and usually for barrel nut it is good and tight. And works for the AR. For my muzzle devices cause they go on things I have to pay Uncle Sam $200 for and wait a year I make sure they are correctly torqued on. You know don't want to send one of them down range.
jesus christ
That's Jason Bourne.