Really cool review. Range of hybrid looks impressive at first. Then I did a quick math. It saves roughly 2 Rs per km. Difference between a high end Hycross Petrol and low end Hycross Hybrid is about 5.6 lakhs. So if you really need to have saved at least 1Rs from this deal, you'll have to drive like 2.8 lakhs km. I'd rather put my 5.6 lakhs in a savings account with 4 interest rate. Gives me 207 litres of fuel per year calculated at 108 rs per litre. That makes about 2900km with mileage you gave. Even more with better rates. 😅
Me too have the same view, even i think the same. I won't be able to churn out even a difference of 2.5lcas in 5years if my average driving is 24k km per year ! Well wld buy gx and spend another 1lac on upgradations 😊
What Maths😅😅😅 you need mentally peace/ Freedom while driving so Hybrid is. These maths never churned out. As old as your car goes mileage goes down. I myself have Strong Hybrid in highways it gives me mileage of 50 with ac on. I remember that add Petrol khatam hi nahi hota
Instead of fortuner should have been taken Innova crysta Diesel that would have been much more sense ...than Crysta would have been much cheaper in running cost beating so called Strong Hybrid
@@97priyam what it returns is depend on driving style of person who drives "12" is not everyone's figure...It's upon zigwheels to tell approximately it returns and, still running cost is concern in long term it is still Diesel which is better also Scrap is only in some parts not in entire India. here the channel is for global or rather all India so the people living will decide whether to buy or not...
I think diesel will have high cost due to DEP and high maintenance. Hybrid has advantage of low maintenance petrol engine + great mileage(better than diesel engine) Hycross Hybrid is best car out there to buy currently( low engine noise. Smooth ride. High mileage) make it best for long drives and city
Wow!! What a comparison! Hats off to Zig Wheels ! I personally own Hycross Hybrid and one literally needs to go to petrol pumps rarely on this car ! My car delivers a mileage of 19- 23 kmpl and the ride/seats are damn comfortable during long journeys!!
Man, I don’t understand how could the manufacturer accept the tyre size for this car. You look from 3/4s and the tyres almost disappear inside the fender!! :(
You guys are amazing... Love your comparison, reviews etc. Kindly do it for Hyryder also. I've booked one already but the waiting period is just unimaginable....
Mighty impressed with the FE of regular petrol. 13.87 is damm good for a car of this size. To put things in perspective, I get similar numbers with my Grand i10.
I am getting over 19.5kmpl constantly with my VX variant. I have done three fuel tank mileage test. And I am running on normal mode. This consist of both city and highway drive. 😊 Very nice video 👌🏻
A big❤ on covering a distance of 1000 plus KM for a review shoot😅( considering reaching Pune), and showing the genuine performance of all three big cars, I would say, you three and your team are amazing people. All the best Zig Wheels.
If petrol gx vs hybrid gx exists.... Right now price difference is 4lakhs extra for hybrid... According to this test, we have to drive 2 lakh kilometers to justify premium for hybrid..... Looks like petrol gx is good value for money, for people who don't drive more than a 1000kms per month like me...nice video... Great work
Wrong calculations. GX OTR 22.77L VX OTR 29.5L difference 6.5 lakhs upfront Mileage Gx 10 kmpl minimum Vx 19 kmpl minimum (Note : i take minimum mileage because gx ne 13.5 kmpl mileage diya hai video mai but hamesha yehi nhi hoga city mai kam bhi hoga toh 10 kmpl man lete hai kam se kam) Hence to cover 6.5L upfront cost u need to use hybrod vehicle for 1,25,000 kms atleast. Also innova hycross hybrid battery cost 2.5L right now (not in india but outside india coverted into INR) Although it has 8 years warranty. Hence gx is value for money.
@@Gaurav-tz1bp yes brother i know...m here telling i want a gx hybrid...which is not on offer now...if gx hybrid exists it ll be 4lakhs extra to gx petrol... obviously Toyota now offers only vx hybrid with more features
I also made small maths calculation here: Toyota Innova Hycross GX(O) On-Road Price in Bangalore:*Rs.26,50,615* Toyota Innova Hycross VX (Hybrid) On-Road Price in Bangalore:*Rs.32,76,722* - so the difference is roughly 6L … consider 2rs difference bet hycross & hybrid. if i drive up to 3lakhs kms for 6 years with hybrid then only i would reach 6Lakhs rupees saving. And round about buying only Hycross is worth. I have not included the hybrid battery replacement charges after 1.5 Lakhs kms. well just to enjoy high end features like ADAS, Ventilated Seats, Cruse control, and some features purpose only you can take Hybrid models. I would invest that 6lakhs in some real estate with some add on money.
Kudos to ZIG WHEELS for this test. For someone who is considering the HYCROSS this test provides a meaningful insight. However a direct comparison with the latest gen INNOVA CRYSTA instead of the FORTUNER would have been the icing on the cake. Thanks.
Would be interested to know what drive mode was used by the HYCross Hybrid in the this experiment. (Eco/Normal/Power) or a combination of the 3. If so in any particular ratio?
This is what I was waiting for😍 U guys did a great work and made my day. I looked hybrid VX now i got the full satisfaction as thr was no proved video like how you guys made it. Hats off to you guys for the good work keep it up.👍
No surprising results in this test, except the Goa detour of course 😂 Even with the higher investment, given how the fuel prices fluctuate (mostly upwards), the Hybrid, if driven more, may not be able recover the cost difference but could potentially make that extra investment feel worth it. But then with the hybrid and electrics, the question remains about the battery. Given the smaller size battery of a hybrid, it goes through far more charge cycles than its electric counterpart. As we know the efficiency of the hybrid is largely based on the torque/power assist the battery/motor provides, now, how long do you think it will be before a hybrid user starts seeing difference in efficiency figures? Will it be negligible? If not, how much will the replacement cost? Wont that effect the second hand value of the product? It was nice to hear Mr. Kamath speak Konkani, though Mr. Shenoy didn't extend the same courtesy 😛 While Fortuner dwarfs everything on road, Mr. Kamath dwarfs even the Fortuner😅
Awesome.. your last video on Honda City hybrid vs Honda City diesel manual vs virtus gt .. made me to buy my car tht is virtus gt. Unbelievable video and made a good choice too . Thank u team. .. looking forward to see more videos like these . ❤
Hey, how about a running cost vs cost price break-even comparison? The Rs / KM was might useful, but Fortuner and Hybrid are tens of lakhs more expensive than non-hybrid Hycross and each other. I know Fortuner is apples to oranges in the mix, but just to indulge a buyer, could you add a break even km too considering on-road prices?
Another great Drive to death episode. Great Job Team Zigwheels , The ? was a good surprise and an indirect range comparison of all 3 Toyotas.14kmpl is great even with light load for the NA Innova petrol . want a Drive to death episode of Toyota Camry .
This is what i was looking for, Now i can close down my choice easily. Instead of Hybrid , petrol model is the best if we look at difference of 10 Lakhs in price.
Thanks team ZigWheels for this 👍🏻 Legitimate Review and comparison, it really helps buyers to concentrate on few aspects and also the real time drive experience
This is very interesting. In the Honda city hybrid comparison test, the diesel still came out on top. But here in the heavy SUV/MPV segment where it actually makes sense for a diesel powertrain, the petrol hybrid came out on top. The diesel even had 28L extra capacity and it still gave less fuel efficiency, more cost/km, & it'll only give an extra 68km of range compared with the hybrid. That is impressive. Wondering how much more weight the fortuner carries, being bigger and with a ladder frame chassis. Maybe that played some role.
Hi Raviraj, we’ve done this very test with the Grand Vitara hybrid vs mild hybrid here. The same powertrains as the Hyryder: ruclips.net/video/zl70am-KSUY/видео.html
Would love to see a Top gear style roadtrip in India from the brilliant zigwheels team. that's the first thought came to my mind after watching this video. 😀😀
Kudos to the whole team for the brilliant display of the efficiency for all these cars. I am already owner of hycross Gx and getting the same efficiency and satisfied with my decision for the price point at which the car is for my family requirement
Nice and griping video. I have narrowed down to hybrid hycorsss. Which variant do u recommend( and value for money being top criterion) without compromising the essentials
Lets assume, we drive 3.5 lakh km on each car. As per the data results from this video Hybrid- Rs.5.69*350000= Rs19,91,500 NA- Rs.7.67*350000= Rs.26,84,500 We save almost 7 lakh from Hybrid cars. That is great but we would have changed the hybrid batteries twice which costs 4 lakh each time. So total 8 lakhs lost. To save the 7 lakh, we need to spend 8 lakh on battery. So the clear winner is NA Petrol in terms of mileage. In case if you are buying the car in emi thinking that you will get best mileage. Car price difference is already 6 lakh and bank interest will be close to 2 lakhs. So again there will be 8 lakh difference. If you buying the car in mileage point of view, just go with NA Petrol
Great Comparison of FE. Nice Video. All the Best for Future Videos. Long Drive Video on Innova Hycross was much awaited and you guys have made a perfect one. From all aspects I feel, VX Variant is value for money!
Very nice project and interesting and HAT KE, Here is my Pick Who Wins, GX or VX and WHY? CLEAR WINNER IS Hycross GXin this case as per a common citizen like me who thinks and calculates as below You have all that required to cruise the car on highway and city (understand Cruise-Control would have been added advantage but to be frank I do not use cruise in my KIA Seltos when I finds the roads I can use Cruise-Control, as its prone to accident, as you become lazy and your attention quickly goes away and you also feel sleepy. Always experience this while going to hometown Nagpur from Hyderabad when I am on HYD outer ring road, that the only run of 40 KM I think cruise control designed to be leveraged otherwise rest 450 KM you can not use cruise control even if roads are superior then HYD-BANGALORE roads. Hycross VX mileage may be mouth watering but in reality its not when you compare to GX HOW? - 1) Price saving you dobetween Hycross VX and Hycross GX model is lets say 6 lakh. 2) Assume you drive 10K per year 3) VX Mileage is 18 and lets say GX mileage is 12 4) Assumed Petrol price is 110 5) VX Annual Fuel expense comes around 91K and GX comes to 61K 6) You are saving 30K per year on VX but remember you paid 6 lakh extra for VX, considering 30K per year extra for GX you can spend your 6 lakh saving buying GX for another 600000/30000=20 years. ARE YOU KIDDING ME, YOU ARE GOING TO USE YOUR CAR 20 YEARS LOL. HENCE GX is Winner
Hey team your effort was super.....fortuner and hycross petrol is so good if you don't have to travel so much...and resale value of hybrid will be very leads compare to these two because that battery valid period...
Would like you to do a video on the choice to make now between a petrol hybrid/petrol/diesel considering the capital cost including interest and the running costs and the resale value especially of the diesel considering its possible ban.
Great review once again. Next set of vehicle. 1. Tucson, Tiguan, Jeep Compass. 2. Breeza, Nexon, Kiger, Magnite, Venue, Sonet. (Considering you have kartikeya, ameya and Nabil) Thanks
Thanks guys for this lovely video on hycross petrol & hybrid but hycross hybrid is selling like a hot cake since Toyota has just opened up the bookings for VX o hybrid
659 km for a full tank 2.0 engine. That range is awesome for a 2.0 gas engine. My 2013 Innova 2.0 Gas 4 speed AT only have 380-390km range on a full tank.
I own a harrier automatic and I am very happy. (3 years, 40000 kms) I was bitten by the hybrid and ADAS bug, visited the showroom to see if I can get the hybrid. Boy, the moment I sat in the driver seat, I headed back to the door. The vehicle is cramped and I started feeling claustrophobic. Will keep my Harrier for some more time.
the most awaited comparison a petrol, petrol hybrid and the diesel .......candid and fun .....nice fuel economy test..👍...... i did not get this towards the end he said in the Fortuner 28 extra liters of diesel will give you only 68 extra kilometers what was that........
The total tank range on a Fortuner diesel is 1040km with a 80 litre tank. The total tank range on a Innova HyCross Hybrid is 972km on a 52 litre tank. Fuel advantage Fortuner has: 80-52= 28 litres Tank Range advantage Fortuner has: 1040-972= 68km Hence the statement.
I really loved your videos. I would like you to suggest a car for me with a budget of 25 lakhs. I am looking for a 7/8-seater car because I need more boot space. My requirements are: 1. Space (cabin and boot) and comfort 2. Reliability 3. Safety and decent mileage 4.Easy to maintain 5.Decent Resale value Car is mostly chauffeur(personaldriver)-driven and we use it once in 2 months (75% highway). This will be our first car,So Please suggest a car(MT/AT), its variant, and engine type. Please give me 2 options with priority.
Sir ags car main kya clutch plate brake se connected hoti hai and har baar brake ke use per clutch plate use hoti jisse woh manual ke mukable jaldi wear out ho jati hai?
nice presentation..beautiful video.may god bless you...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 7 seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 6/7seater top end - seltos x line petrol full top end ..also i am ready to wait for carens x line luxury top end whnever its launched...I want to upgrade from my current wagon r 2010 ...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches and lesser..i prefer 6/7/8 seater and seltos/alcazar/upcoming carens facelift is added only due to additional features..alcazar n seltos n carens give all superb luxury features which i truly luv...hycross is super spacious n best ride quality than alcazar and seltos or carens..hycross brand value and reliability r superb..but features r too less including no cruise control...i think my kind of driving that too mainly short trips in cities, mileage is not an issue..all four will give normal mileage ...plz advice.. though heart n soul r still tilted towards Hycross being a die hard toyota fan even with lesser features n with out cruise control, the brain is heading towards alcazar signature/seltos/carens petrol top end due luxury features...also fear of dct and these features might give problems in long run...I am not sure..wats ur suggestion ..thank u so much maam....I hav a small family..v r four...wife n two school going kids out of whom one is going to b in 9th...n this car will b with me for next 12 to 14 years for sure...so many features in seltos n alcazar n carens r very useful...I agree that Hycross is big but totally plain in terms of facilities...I can wait a bit till facelift of carens is released so that I get a better comparison and any thng above 25lakh is premium..all these cars reach that price range..let's c ..dont you think so..plz read full n advice...
Excellent effort ...keep it up, pls clarify the difference in fuel efficiency of hybrid vs non hybrid in city....on highway its 2rs/l difference but wat about city... this difference shud increase?
Superb comparison! The number crunching at the end was great. Just one more thing you could've added - break even point. How many kilometres you need to drive the hybrid to cover the extra money that you pay for the hybrid variant.
The breakeven point would be far lower if you discount the 5-6 lakh worth of additional features that the ZX (O) has over the GX. But like you rightly pointed out, a Hybrid car at current price points will not make sense in the overall cost of ownership scheme of things. If Toyota had the VX/ZX spec for the non-hybrid, that’d be very interesting!
A lot of people buy diesel over petrol or electric over ICE or CNG over petrol or hybrid over petrol - just because they're cheaper to run, without doing this break even point calculation. And most people don't even use the car till break even point, which is mostly a few lakh kilometres.
Driving experience of the Hybrid is way better than the petrol. Plus you can get all the comfort and luxury features which you can’t get in the petrol. Then the green image, which may matter to some if not to all. Hybrids are also more future proof
Great comparison…Seems Petrol Innova makes more sense than even Diesel Auto …. Hybrid has a savings of 2 rupees per Km … so the break even point is like 3-4 lakh kms ( considering the price difference is 6 to 8 lakhs )
Thanks for watching. Do account for the difference in variants between the two powertrains too. Not only is the hybrid more efficient and a stronger performer, it’s also offered in higher variants with more features which also adds to the price premium
So looking at the Running and Ownership Cost its better to buy HYCROSS GX (Over Fortuner, Hybrid Hycross) Can we get the other interior and features of VX Hybrid (except Sunroof) from TOYOTA Dealership into GX variant by paying the Addl cost like accessories ?
Im impressed in your dedication just to give us actual data. Amazing content. So i just sibscribed and will watch more on you channel. One question please, how does the Innova Hybrid feel going uphill? And when fully loaded?
Thank you! The Hycross Hybrid has enough punch for driving uphill with a full load, especially because of the electric assist. It will get vocal especially on sharp hill overtakes but the performance is there
I drive an Ignis, that returns me 19-ish kmpl....that gigantic minibus of a car returning the same fuel economy as that of a compact hatchback...MADNESS!
Does the non hybrid hycross lack torque at ghats or tough road sections at full passengers? Or is it just sufficient over the hybrid since hybrid is pricier.
It does, and you have to use more of the rev range to access the performance. In the hybrid, the electric assistance makes overtakes and with load driving much easier
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Really cool review. Range of hybrid looks impressive at first. Then I did a quick math. It saves roughly 2 Rs per km. Difference between a high end Hycross Petrol and low end Hycross Hybrid is about 5.6 lakhs. So if you really need to have saved at least 1Rs from this deal, you'll have to drive like 2.8 lakhs km. I'd rather put my 5.6 lakhs in a savings account with 4 interest rate. Gives me 207 litres of fuel per year calculated at 108 rs per litre. That makes about 2900km with mileage you gave. Even more with better rates. 😅
Rightly said 👌👌👌
Lovely cal bro
Me too have the same view, even i think the same. I won't be able to churn out even a difference of 2.5lcas in 5years if my average driving is 24k km per year !
Well wld buy gx and spend another 1lac on upgradations 😊
What Maths😅😅😅 you need mentally peace/ Freedom while driving so Hybrid is. These maths never churned out. As old as your car goes mileage goes down. I myself have Strong Hybrid in highways it gives me mileage of 50 with ac on. I remember that add Petrol khatam hi nahi hota
@@ak77z 50 kmpl? At what speeds?
Instead of fortuner should have been taken Innova crysta Diesel that would have been much more sense ...than Crysta would have been much cheaper in running cost beating so called Strong Hybrid
I agree.
Hardly. It returns 12kmpl. Diesel is almost as expensive as petrol now. And the car is scrapped much sooner
@@97priyam what it returns is depend on driving style of person who drives "12" is not everyone's figure...It's upon zigwheels to tell approximately it returns and, still running cost is concern in long term it is still Diesel which is better also Scrap is only in some parts not in entire India. here the channel is for global or rather all India so the people living will decide whether to buy or not...
I think diesel will have high cost due to DEP and high maintenance. Hybrid has advantage of low maintenance petrol engine + great mileage(better than diesel engine) Hycross Hybrid is best car out there to buy currently( low engine noise. Smooth ride. High mileage) make it best for long drives and city
crysta 2.4 easily get 16 to 17 on highways at highway speeds
You both make for such BRILLIANT auto-reviewers!
Kudos to the entire team for keeping the entire review so engaging...
Wow!! What a comparison! Hats off to Zig Wheels ! I personally own Hycross Hybrid and one literally needs to go to petrol pumps rarely on this car ! My car delivers a mileage of 19- 23 kmpl and the ride/seats are damn comfortable during long journeys!!
Awesome!
Including crysta diesel in this test would be a cherry on the cake
Man, I don’t understand how could the manufacturer accept the tyre size for this car. You look from 3/4s and the tyres almost disappear inside the fender!! :(
😅
I guess it's designed for more comfort....like less contact surface area of tyres...biggger body better shock absorbtion...
@@CruxycreamWhy do executive sedans not use miniscule tires then if they're better for comfort?
@@alburaq3290 good point.
@@alburaq3290wheelbase,body structure, suspension
You guys are amazing... Love your comparison, reviews etc.
Kindly do it for Hyryder also. I've booked one already but the waiting period is just unimaginable....
Hey do check this out: ruclips.net/video/zl70am-KSUY/видео.html
Mighty impressed with the FE of regular petrol. 13.87 is damm good for a car of this size. To put things in perspective, I get similar numbers with my Grand i10.
Yep, it’s actually reasonably efficient
I got lesser numbers in my i20 Elite 😅
@@karanhemani1468 my toyota Corolla altis petrol 1.8 liter engine gives 18kmpl mileage 🔥toyota 🔥
Check 1:06 speed of the care reads at 40kmph does @sachin jain have you noticed it😅
My friends Crysta Petrol lands him a mileage of only 8
Kudos to all you guys ! This video is what is needed in this day and age specially for people who’s looking for a car in 40lack range.
Thanks Tharun! 🙏
Exactly it's way tooo Small doesn't compliment it's size
Lot of effort goes into making such videos. Great job kudos to the zigwheels team👍🏼
Yessir, it’s quite taxing🥵appreciate your support !!
Nail-biting stuff guys, enjoyed it thoroughly!
I am getting over 19.5kmpl constantly with my VX variant. I have done three fuel tank mileage test. And I am running on normal mode. This consist of both city and highway drive. 😊
Very nice video 👌🏻
Crysta diesel manual?
@@dinamassurker1315 Hycross VX hybrid
@@dcgupta1 that's very good i am confused between diesel crysta and hybrid hycross, I need 7 seater with atlest 1000km range in full tank
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience as an owner, Durgesh! 🙏
Same here
Great video guys!!! I am genuinely surprised for the fortuner giving 13kmpl, that car is much bigger
A big❤ on covering a distance of 1000 plus KM for a review shoot😅( considering reaching Pune), and showing the genuine performance of all three big cars, I would say, you three and your team are amazing people. All the best Zig Wheels.
Thank you so much 😊
If petrol gx vs hybrid gx exists.... Right now price difference is 4lakhs extra for hybrid... According to this test, we have to drive 2 lakh kilometers to justify premium for hybrid..... Looks like petrol gx is good value for money, for people who don't drive more than a 1000kms per month like me...nice video... Great work
Thank you for watching!
Wrong calculations.
GX OTR 22.77L
VX OTR 29.5L
difference 6.5 lakhs upfront
Mileage
Gx 10 kmpl minimum
Vx 19 kmpl minimum
(Note : i take minimum mileage because gx ne 13.5 kmpl mileage diya hai video mai but hamesha yehi nhi hoga city mai kam bhi hoga toh 10 kmpl man lete hai kam se kam)
Hence to cover 6.5L upfront cost u need to use hybrod vehicle for 1,25,000 kms atleast.
Also innova hycross hybrid battery cost 2.5L right now (not in india but outside india coverted into INR) Although it has 8 years warranty.
Hence gx is value for money.
@@Gaurav-tz1bp yes brother i know...m here telling i want a gx hybrid...which is not on offer now...if gx hybrid exists it ll be 4lakhs extra to gx petrol... obviously Toyota now offers only vx hybrid with more features
Here in kerala have 3opttion
Gx, gx (o) and hybrid gx base variant only have25 lakh and hybrid is 35lakh there is a 10lakh in price variation
As u said if we run 1lakh km have to just pay approximate 1.5 rs its a great
Beautifully done guys. Superb!!! Loved it.
Thanks a ton, Alok 🙏
I also made small maths calculation here:
Toyota Innova Hycross GX(O) On-Road Price in Bangalore:*Rs.26,50,615*
Toyota Innova Hycross VX (Hybrid) On-Road Price in Bangalore:*Rs.32,76,722* - so the difference is roughly 6L … consider 2rs difference bet hycross & hybrid. if i drive up to 3lakhs kms for 6 years with hybrid then only i would reach 6Lakhs rupees saving. And round about buying only Hycross is worth. I have not included the hybrid battery replacement charges after 1.5 Lakhs kms. well just to enjoy high end features like ADAS, Ventilated Seats, Cruse control, and some features purpose only you can take Hybrid models.
I would invest that 6lakhs in some real estate with some add on money.
Kudos to ZIG WHEELS for this test. For someone who is considering the HYCROSS this test provides a meaningful insight. However a direct comparison with the latest gen INNOVA CRYSTA instead of the FORTUNER would have been the icing on the cake. Thanks.
3:20 i feel like 70% of these features can be added for 2-3 lacs? Am I close or way too far off?
But not the hybrid tech
Depends on which features you add. The aftermarket can add a lot of features but the quality makes a big difference to how much each add on would cost
Would be interested to know what drive mode was used by the HYCross Hybrid in the this experiment. (Eco/Normal/Power) or a combination of the 3. If so in any particular ratio?
Guys
This is yours one of the best comparisons
Great team works 👍🏻
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@8:40 Petrol one crossed Tripmeter reading of 660 kms and Hybrid one crossed 647 kms?
13 kms tolerance?
Great video guys, didn't wanted the video to end...
This is what I was waiting for😍
U guys did a great work and made my day.
I looked hybrid VX now i got the full satisfaction as thr was no proved video like how you guys made it.
Hats off to you guys for the good work keep it up.👍
🎇 🎆 glad you liked it!
No surprising results in this test, except the Goa detour of course 😂
Even with the higher investment, given how the fuel prices fluctuate (mostly upwards), the Hybrid, if driven more, may not be able recover the cost difference but could potentially make that extra investment feel worth it. But then with the hybrid and electrics, the question remains about the battery. Given the smaller size battery of a hybrid, it goes through far more charge cycles than its electric counterpart. As we know the efficiency of the hybrid is largely based on the torque/power assist the battery/motor provides, now, how long do you think it will be before a hybrid user starts seeing difference in efficiency figures? Will it be negligible? If not, how much will the replacement cost? Wont that effect the second hand value of the product?
It was nice to hear Mr. Kamath speak Konkani, though Mr. Shenoy didn't extend the same courtesy 😛
While Fortuner dwarfs everything on road, Mr. Kamath dwarfs even the Fortuner😅
Watching ur vdeo for the first time..... Excellent quality of making
Thank you!
Awesome.. your last video on Honda City hybrid vs Honda City diesel manual vs virtus gt .. made me to buy my car tht is virtus gt. Unbelievable video and made a good choice too . Thank u team. .. looking forward to see more videos like these . ❤
big question!
battery replacement duration and cost??
Hey, how about a running cost vs cost price break-even comparison?
The Rs / KM was might useful, but Fortuner and Hybrid are tens of lakhs more expensive than non-hybrid Hycross and each other.
I know Fortuner is apples to oranges in the mix, but just to indulge a buyer, could you add a break even km too considering on-road prices?
Another great Drive to death episode. Great Job Team Zigwheels , The ? was a good surprise and an indirect range comparison of all 3 Toyotas.14kmpl is great even with light load for the NA Innova petrol . want a Drive to death episode of Toyota Camry .
Thanks Mangesh!
This is what i was looking for, Now i can close down my choice easily. Instead of Hybrid , petrol model is the best if we look at difference of 10 Lakhs in price.
Thanks so much
Thanks team ZigWheels for this 👍🏻 Legitimate Review and comparison, it really helps buyers to concentrate on few aspects and also the real time drive experience
This is very interesting. In the Honda city hybrid comparison test, the diesel still came out on top. But here in the heavy SUV/MPV segment where it actually makes sense for a diesel powertrain, the petrol hybrid came out on top. The diesel even had 28L extra capacity and it still gave less fuel efficiency, more cost/km, & it'll only give an extra 68km of range compared with the hybrid. That is impressive. Wondering how much more weight the fortuner carries, being bigger and with a ladder frame chassis. Maybe that played some role.
*More cost/km.
But yeah, I agree
Higher engine displacement of Fortuner ( 2.8 ltr ) vs Innova Hycross should have been taken into account too.
Can you please do the same video with the hyryder strong hybrid vs hyrydrer 1.5 N/A?
Hi Raviraj, we’ve done this very test with the Grand Vitara hybrid vs mild hybrid here. The same powertrains as the Hyryder: ruclips.net/video/zl70am-KSUY/видео.html
The fortuner looks bloody good in between the innovas ❤
Nice video..i was bit confused to upgrade my innova crysta diesel into innova hycross hybrid..now i got more clarity. Thanks guys 👍
Glad you liked it, Paras
Would love to see a Top gear style roadtrip in India from the brilliant zigwheels team. that's the first thought came to my mind after watching this video. 😀😀
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Really commendable..it’s innova-tive style to describe everything about innova..appreciate it..
Kudos to the whole team for the brilliant display of the efficiency for all these cars. I am already owner of hycross Gx and getting the same efficiency and satisfied with my decision for the price point at which the car is for my family requirement
Thanks Ashish, appreciate you sharing your experience as an owner🙏
How did you get the car? 6 months & Still waiting.
@@arjunram8 I had booked the car much early before the launch
A Diesel Is A Diesel... ⛽🔥
Really what an great comparison.!!
All three beast together to see is amazing. 😍
God job guys.
Keep up this unique comparoo 👍
Nice and griping video. I have narrowed down to hybrid hycorsss. Which variant do u recommend( and value for money being top criterion) without compromising the essentials
Kudos to the effort and detailed fuel and range comparison.
This topic not necessary has to be boring. Well done guys!
Thanks Ashwin! Glad you liked it
Amazing idea,great video!
You guys cleared the confusion of every toyota buyer👍👍👍
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Lets assume, we drive 3.5 lakh km on each car. As per the data results from this video
Hybrid- Rs.5.69*350000= Rs19,91,500
NA- Rs.7.67*350000= Rs.26,84,500
We save almost 7 lakh from Hybrid cars. That is great but we would have changed the hybrid batteries twice which costs 4 lakh each time. So total 8 lakhs lost.
To save the 7 lakh, we need to spend 8 lakh on battery. So the clear winner is NA Petrol in terms of mileage.
In case if you are buying the car in emi thinking that you will get best mileage. Car price difference is already 6 lakh and bank interest will be close to 2 lakhs. So again there will be 8 lakh difference.
If you buying the car in mileage point of view, just go with NA Petrol
This the video i never skipped a part. Well done zig wheel
Awesome, thank you!
Another excellent video by ZigWheels! You guys rock!!
Great Comparison of FE. Nice Video. All the Best for Future Videos. Long Drive Video on Innova Hycross was much awaited and you guys have made a perfect one. From all aspects I feel, VX Variant is value for money!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks to team for creating such a informative video...Keep going...Good Luck❤
Do we have wireless Android auto in zxo??
Showroom guys told wireless apple carplay only
@@AJASP.K ys
Very nice project and interesting and HAT KE,
Here is my Pick Who Wins, GX or VX and WHY?
CLEAR WINNER IS Hycross GXin this case as per a common citizen like me who thinks and calculates as below
You have all that required to cruise the car on highway and city (understand Cruise-Control would have been added advantage but to be frank I do not use cruise in my KIA Seltos when I finds the roads I can use Cruise-Control, as its prone to accident, as you become lazy and your attention quickly goes away and you also feel sleepy. Always experience this while going to hometown Nagpur from Hyderabad when I am on HYD outer ring road, that the only run of 40 KM I think cruise control designed to be leveraged otherwise rest 450 KM you can not use cruise control even if roads are superior then HYD-BANGALORE roads.
Hycross VX mileage may be mouth watering but in reality its not when you compare to GX
HOW? -
1) Price saving you dobetween Hycross VX and Hycross GX model is lets say 6 lakh.
2) Assume you drive 10K per year
3) VX Mileage is 18 and lets say GX mileage is 12
4) Assumed Petrol price is 110
5) VX Annual Fuel expense comes around 91K and GX comes to 61K
6) You are saving 30K per year on VX but remember you paid 6 lakh extra for VX, considering 30K per year extra for GX you can spend your 6 lakh saving buying GX for another 600000/30000=20 years.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME, YOU ARE GOING TO USE YOUR CAR 20 YEARS LOL. HENCE GX is Winner
Hey team your effort was super.....fortuner and hycross petrol is so good if you don't have to travel so much...and resale value of hybrid will be very leads compare to these two because that battery valid period...
Would like you to do a video on the choice to make now between a petrol hybrid/petrol/diesel considering the capital cost including interest and the running costs and the resale value especially of the diesel considering its possible ban.
Great review once again. Next set of vehicle.
1. Tucson, Tiguan, Jeep Compass.
2. Breeza, Nexon, Kiger, Magnite, Venue, Sonet. (Considering you have kartikeya, ameya and Nabil)
Thanks
Thanks guys for this lovely video on hycross petrol & hybrid but hycross hybrid is selling like a hot cake since Toyota has just opened up the bookings for VX o hybrid
Such a detailed content than any other contents on youtube.
659 km for a full tank 2.0 engine. That range is awesome for a 2.0 gas engine. My 2013 Innova 2.0 Gas 4 speed AT only have 380-390km range on a full tank.
Yep, this is a massive improvement vs the 2.7 petrol as well
Woww .amaging for ur hardwork showing off every struggle with your demo of these cars.love u lot keep influence us with cars knowledge ❤️❤️❤️❤️
This jodi of Arun and Tushar is the best in business. Straight down to facts, no drama, no fuss, no nonsense. I just adore you guys so much.❤🔥🔥
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I own a harrier automatic and I am very happy. (3 years, 40000 kms)
I was bitten by the hybrid and ADAS bug, visited the showroom to see if I can get the hybrid.
Boy, the moment I sat in the driver seat, I headed back to the door.
The vehicle is cramped and I started feeling claustrophobic.
Will keep my Harrier for some more time.
the most awaited comparison a petrol, petrol hybrid and the diesel .......candid and fun .....nice fuel economy test..👍...... i did not get this towards the end he said in the Fortuner 28 extra liters of diesel will give you only 68 extra kilometers what was that........
The total tank range on a Fortuner diesel is 1040km with a 80 litre tank.
The total tank range on a Innova HyCross Hybrid is 972km on a 52 litre tank.
Fuel advantage Fortuner has: 80-52= 28 litres
Tank Range advantage Fortuner has:
1040-972= 68km
Hence the statement.
@@zigwheels thanks for the clarity.... 👍
I really loved your videos.
I would like you to suggest a car for me with a budget of 25 lakhs. I am looking for a 7/8-seater car because I need more boot space.
My requirements are:
1. Space (cabin and boot) and comfort
2. Reliability
3. Safety and decent mileage
4.Easy to maintain
5.Decent Resale value
Car is mostly chauffeur(personaldriver)-driven and we use it once in 2 months (75% highway).
This will be our first car,So Please suggest a car(MT/AT), its variant, and engine type. Please give me 2 options with priority.
Sir ags car main kya clutch plate brake se connected hoti hai and har baar brake ke use per clutch plate use hoti jisse woh manual ke mukable jaldi wear out ho jati hai?
Great video guys 👍
nice presentation..beautiful video.may god bless you...i am confused between hycross gx(o) 7 seater - alcazar 2024 petrol signature 6/7seater top end - seltos x line petrol full top end ..also i am ready to wait for carens x line luxury top end whnever its launched...I want to upgrade from my current wagon r 2010 ...whch is ur suggestion...all my family member height is max 5 ft 4 inches and lesser..i prefer 6/7/8 seater and seltos/alcazar/upcoming carens facelift is added only due to additional features..alcazar n seltos n carens give all superb luxury features which i truly luv...hycross is super spacious n best ride quality than alcazar and seltos or carens..hycross brand value and reliability r superb..but features r too less including no cruise control...i think my kind of driving that too mainly short trips in cities, mileage is not an issue..all four will give normal mileage ...plz advice.. though heart n soul r still tilted towards Hycross being a die hard toyota fan even with lesser features n with out cruise control, the brain is heading towards alcazar signature/seltos/carens petrol top end due luxury features...also fear of dct and these features might give problems in long run...I am not sure..wats ur suggestion ..thank u so much maam....I hav a small family..v r four...wife n two school going kids out of whom one is going to b in 9th...n this car will b with me for next 12 to 14 years for sure...so many features in seltos n alcazar n carens r very useful...I agree that Hycross is big but totally plain in terms of facilities...I can wait a bit till facelift of carens is released so that I get a better comparison and any thng above 25lakh is premium..all these cars reach that price range..let's c ..dont you think so..plz read full n advice...
Excellent effort ...keep it up, pls clarify the difference in fuel efficiency of hybrid vs non hybrid in city....on highway its 2rs/l difference but wat about city... this difference shud increase?
What was the driving mode of these 3 during journey
Eco or normal or sports
Eco only
@@zigwheels ok
To save Rs 2/- should anyone spend 6 lacs additionally for a hybrid? With 6 lacs in hand one can drive upto 60k kms in Non hybrid for 6 years
Thanks a tones guys wonderful video
Amazing comparison. Thumbs up to Team ZigWheels
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Superb comparison! The number crunching at the end was great.
Just one more thing you could've added - break even point. How many kilometres you need to drive the hybrid to cover the extra money that you pay for the hybrid variant.
The breakeven point would be far lower if you discount the 5-6 lakh worth of additional features that the ZX (O) has over the GX.
But like you rightly pointed out, a Hybrid car at current price points will not make sense in the overall cost of ownership scheme of things.
If Toyota had the VX/ZX spec for the non-hybrid, that’d be very interesting!
A lot of people buy diesel over petrol or electric over ICE or CNG over petrol or hybrid over petrol - just because they're cheaper to run, without doing this break even point calculation. And most people don't even use the car till break even point, which is mostly a few lakh kilometres.
Awesome video, Enjoyed it a lot
can u tell me place Where is That place in Goa Where did U revel the Fortuner.. is Camera Car..?
Only reason for someone not to go for GX is , it has only 2 airbags… otherwise its definitely a winner in all respects
Now six airbags
Impressive. Is it possible to a cost vs km payback to decide on each vehicle?
have never seen a comparison like this.... amazing
Glad you liked it 🙏
Lovely guys great work... I would like to see more about hybrid cars
Thank you 🙏
Driving experience of the Hybrid is way better than the petrol. Plus you can get all the comfort and luxury features which you can’t get in the petrol. Then the green image, which may matter to some if not to all.
Hybrids are also more future proof
Great Comparison.. enjoyed this!!
Thank you 🙏
Bro Innova hycross gxo
MG hector plus savy pro which is best
Friendly car my 1 St car😢🎉😢
go for hycross gxo blindly
Great comparison…Seems Petrol Innova makes more sense than even Diesel Auto …. Hybrid has a savings of 2 rupees per Km … so the break even point is like 3-4 lakh kms ( considering the price difference is 6 to 8 lakhs )
Thanks for watching. Do account for the difference in variants between the two powertrains too. Not only is the hybrid more efficient and a stronger performer, it’s also offered in higher variants with more features which also adds to the price premium
@@zigwheels ho yes 👍🏾 … variant to variant hybrid premium it 5-6 lakhs
the best comparision i have ever seen
Very cool review and this is live infromation from field
So looking at the Running and Ownership Cost its better to buy HYCROSS GX (Over Fortuner, Hybrid Hycross)
Can we get the other interior and features of VX Hybrid (except Sunroof) from TOYOTA Dealership into GX variant by paying the Addl cost like accessories ?
Wow... beautifully explained with proper data...kudos.
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Kudos to the effort you have ppl have put to present this sort of video
Our favorite Car guys are back and How! Kudos to you as always. Totally loved it.
Super good effort guys ...well done !!!
Brilliant camparison! Loved it
I would love to know which one was better comfort wise and overall ride quality wise, Fortuner or Hycross?
That’d be the Hycross.
Im impressed in your dedication just to give us actual data. Amazing content. So i just sibscribed and will watch more on you channel. One question please, how does the Innova Hybrid feel going uphill? And when fully loaded?
Thank you! The Hycross Hybrid has enough punch for driving uphill with a full load, especially because of the electric assist. It will get vocal especially on sharp hill overtakes but the performance is there
maza aa gaya bhai.. badhiya content
I drive an Ignis, that returns me 19-ish kmpl....that gigantic minibus of a car returning the same fuel economy as that of a compact hatchback...MADNESS!
Thanks for the info guys , really helpful 👍 🎉
Glad you liked it🙏
Thanks for the amazing review!
Thanks Irfan!
Does the non hybrid hycross lack torque at ghats or tough road sections at full passengers? Or is it just sufficient over the hybrid since hybrid is pricier.
It does, and you have to use more of the rev range to access the performance. In the hybrid, the electric assistance makes overtakes and with load driving much easier
Excellent work brothers. 👍👍👍
Thank you so much 😀
what an amazing video!!!
Couldn't miss out a single second!!😂🤍
Nice Video Guys ! Loved it ..
Thanks Siddharth!