How Fast Can You Get The Mace?

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  • Опубликовано: 30 мар 2024
  • I wanted to know how long it takes the average player to get the mace (new 1.21 Minecraft feature). Cause it is an end game weapon.
    Thanks for watching :)
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  • @niesn
    @niesn  Месяц назад +447

    Let me know what you think about it. Edit: Just to make it clear, I like the mace as a weapon. And this is just a test and me sharing my thoughts about the mace (I think it's a create addition).

  • @alex6027
    @alex6027 Месяц назад +3324

    To be fair about this being an 'endgame weapon', this is a game where you can technically beat the boss of The End in 7 minutes (2 minutes on a set seed)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +376

      that is true lmao

    • @gtagusta
      @gtagusta Месяц назад +132

      not "you", speedrunners, and the distinction is necessary cause to do that type of thing, knowledge, luck and skill is required, its not about anyone that can beat the world record in a game

    • @alex6027
      @alex6027 Месяц назад +278

      @@gtagusta Yea, but that same kind of skill knowledge and luck would be required to acquire a mace expediently

    • @gtagusta
      @gtagusta Месяц назад +27

      @@alex6027 not really no? its not really like you need alot of knowledge of the game to know how to get a mace, only luck would be a real big factor, and even then you can just cheat your way through it via outside tools or commands, and on skill, fighting mobs shouldnt be too hard with things like bed respawn points, shields, armor, keep inventory, saturation, and so on in the game, and its not like their AI is that complex either, so you can just exploit that too, even more so if you dont need to deal with a timer that much

    • @omgryannn
      @omgryannn Месяц назад +43

      @@gtagustathey said technically…

  • @rominigames6870
    @rominigames6870 Месяц назад +1843

    So, for the record: the vaults in the trial chamber can drop ominous potions, so you don’t need to go to an outpost!

    • @rominigames6870
      @rominigames6870 Месяц назад +163

      My bad you realized this I’m dumb 😅

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +283

      I did in fact realize that lmao

    • @cosmo9916
      @cosmo9916 Месяц назад +68

      @@niesnheavy core can be dropped from regular vaults at a 2,2% chance

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +42

      @@cosmo9916 oh ok, thank you

    • @JellyAntz
      @JellyAntz Месяц назад +93

      @@cosmo9916not anymore they replaced that with a trident, now there’s 8% chance from ominous vault

  • @hw2007
    @hw2007 Месяц назад +257

    The way I see it, pretty much all "endgame" items can be obtained in < 1hr if your only purpose in the world is to get that item. If you don't worry about making a base, building, farming, etc you could get an elytra pretty quick. Same applies here with the mace

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +27

      ok that's a valid point

    • @thebanman2293
      @thebanman2293 28 дней назад +2

      valid

    • @strisselstudios3932
      @strisselstudios3932 27 дней назад +5

      Counterpoint: Wearable Hoglin helmet.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  20 дней назад +1

      @@strisselstudios3932 lmao

    • @InsertSomenickorsomethingOK
      @InsertSomenickorsomethingOK 9 дней назад

      Exactly fe I was focusing only on looting end cities and got 15 elytras in my hardcore world in a short amount of time

  • @samuelgonzalez8480
    @samuelgonzalez8480 Месяц назад +878

    That villager outpost spawning in the powdered snow biome is so unique and sinking in the snow felt like a real environmental hazard while fighting the pillagers. such cool world generation, that biome should be bigger and have more stuff generate in it to have powdered snow work to its full potential.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +95

      It was a hazard. Definitely way more dangerous than most biomes, which I like (even though it can be annoying). So I think you're right, I would love sth like that in the game.

    • @localidiot2777
      @localidiot2777 Месяц назад +14

      ​@@niesnOnce you learn how to tell between powdered and regular snow its a interesting hazard for sure.

    • @Gilly2020
      @Gilly2020 Месяц назад +11

      It's the most fun when you have leather boots and then you can use it to your advantage

    • @hallowedchromee310
      @hallowedchromee310 Месяц назад +12

      @@Gilly2020 The idea of having a cabin in some snowy woods surrounded by powdered snow actually sounds like a really cool base defense idea ngl. Just casually go across with the leather boots while everything else sinks.

    • @Gilly2020
      @Gilly2020 Месяц назад +3

      @@hallowedchromee310 that's actually a really cool idea!

  • @cyclopemusic
    @cyclopemusic Месяц назад +557

    When you know how to optimize every step (almost) it’s easy. But I think that for an average player it takes a lot of time and effort. Besides, the way to get it uses a lot of mechanic and is just very fun

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +31

      that's true, and it really is fun

    • @fleggy5050
      @fleggy5050 Месяц назад +22

      Minecraft doesnt really have that much progression. Your first set of armor ur most likely to get is the 3rd best and before netherite was literally the 2nd best one. You use wood for like 2 seconds to get stone tools, those for a little more before u get iron and ur almost at the best gear possible. Minecrafts progression is a little lacking. Like its not a massively big deal but there is totally a lot of depth that could be added. Im not even mentioning that there are like 2 bosses. It feels like the devs wanted to add way more but sorta forgot or went to develop other things instead. Then again with the recent april fools update being kind of a list of things the devs wanna work on but for whatever reason cant and there being a boss kinda shows they are aware of it, so I hope there will eventually be an update that will make the game feel a bit more cohesive and maybe flesh out the progression more. Cuz right now its just get iron in like 30 minutes, get diamonds in 2 hours max and beat the game in like 3 on a casual playthrough. Just look at RT Game's recent playthrough, he beat the game in the first episode lmao.

    • @stephenkrahling1634
      @stephenkrahling1634 29 дней назад +9

      @@fleggy5050 Yeah considering how many systems and structures there are that reward the player with "gear" the game both emphasizes that getting max gear is your reward for doing things and yet getting 90% of the way to that point is incredibly easy... Making all these systems feel ultimately worthless for 90% of the time you're playing.... It's legit harder to move up the ore tech tree in terraria pre hard mode, and that's not even 2% of the game
      Minecraft is a game of many interesting problems with uninteresting solutions, and even less interesting rewards for solving said problems... Honestly this is what makes the create mod so special, it completes the other half of the sandbox by giving the player cool and unique ways to find their own solutions, and unlike other mods it makes those solutions even come with their own challenges and problems for the player to solve and work around.
      You want to make a farm for renewable granite? Cool, here's all the parts to do that, there's just an infinite number of ways you could put them together to do that and you gotta figure out how you're going to do it

    • @darkner9041
      @darkner9041 29 дней назад

      Chunk base and some skill aren't too rare

    • @pnku
      @pnku 29 дней назад +8

      @@darkner9041 chunk base isn't rare but it's also not vanilla, the game is not balanced around people using websites to analyze all the locations in their seed

  • @maxg971
    @maxg971 Месяц назад +234

    Ive been playing minecraft for years and i was not be able to best a trial chamber with the omen effect without diamond gear so i think its even harder for most people than you assumed

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +20

      yeah, it depends. For me it's not really hard, but I see your point. Haven't really thought of that.

    • @Max-zo6rv
      @Max-zo6rv Месяц назад +14

      Skill issue

    • @maxg971
      @maxg971 Месяц назад +44

      @@Max-zo6rv im well aware

    • @heianwood6119
      @heianwood6119 Месяц назад +1

      Just get a melee chamber, so you can cheese the mobs
      Skelies tend to knock you off pillars

    • @carwithknIfe
      @carwithknIfe Месяц назад +4

      minecraft isnt even hard bro skill issue 😊

  • @Quidvio
    @Quidvio 29 дней назад +67

    Saying "An area of 262,000 blocks" is very misleading. That number doesn't mean anything to anyone except it is big. Only one village generates in an area of 295,000 blocks but obviously people know that villages aren't that rare. Nice video though, I also agree with your point, but I feel like a lot of things in Minecraft are too easy to get, and that the issues just stem from the progression in general.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +5

      ok sorry, but that's how it is. The world get's split into these squares, and in every one only 1 trial chamber generates. (also they are underground, villages are not)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +2

      and thanks :)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +23

      ok I could've said said: every ~511x511 blocks. You're right, I'll do that in future videos

    • @Quidvio
      @Quidvio 29 дней назад +4

      @@niesn Yeah! Exactly :)

  • @totalNERD-eo7wx
    @totalNERD-eo7wx Месяц назад +147

    I feel like instead of just getting a Heavy Core, there should instead be an item that summons a new boss (kinda like the Wither) which then drops the core.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +37

      honestly, that would be a great idea

    • @Mrmghz1
      @Mrmghz1 Месяц назад +18

      Or just a final boss in the trial chambers

    • @gdmathguy
      @gdmathguy Месяц назад +11

      ​@@Mrmghz1Perhaps a boss themed around the wind charges that throws wind charges more chaotically as the time goes down.
      That way, the boss doesn't even need to even damage the player, the fall damage would just do its job

    • @totalNERD-eo7wx
      @totalNERD-eo7wx Месяц назад +3

      @@gdmathguy That sounds like a good idea, but how about having heavy cores float around it? It could squish you with them as it is flinging you around

    • @totalNERD-eo7wx
      @totalNERD-eo7wx Месяц назад

      @@SS-rf1ri Agreed, but I wouldn't mind if it was still a little RNG (like, a 1/8 chance this summoning item drops)

  • @silvercoin9308
    @silvercoin9308 Месяц назад +74

    i didnt even know this was a video from a small channel. i was very entertained and i found it really funny :) keep at it

  • @pilanger
    @pilanger Месяц назад +53

    I normally wouldn’t comment but I gotta say, excellent choice of using Cutthroat Carnival from Skylanders in the outpost segment. Brought me back to my childhood :)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +11

      yoo, glad to hear that :)

    • @kitsune9213
      @kitsune9213 29 дней назад +3

      I knew, that was some skylanders music😂

  • @cj-cv7zv
    @cj-cv7zv Месяц назад +20

    when you used skylanders giants OST music the biggest fucking smile on my face appeared. I love you

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +4

      thanks, glad you like it :) and it's just a banger

    • @zimknxckb4ck
      @zimknxckb4ck 2 дня назад

      @@niesn Btw is this java or bedrock?

  • @princealimightyisHE78
    @princealimightyisHE78 Месяц назад +17

    Amazing video, update looks amazing. I feel like the trial chamber should have an entrance starting on surface, like a sprial challenge type dungeon. Mining fatigue should probably accompany this to make it truly an endgame structure, as you can box up and get away pretty easily while carrying low tier armor

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      An Entrance would be so cool, but idk about mining fatigue. They would've to implement it better than it is in monuments. Maybe so it only lasts for a few seconds after you leave the trial chambers and it's weaker than the mining fatigue we currently have.

  • @paths7969
    @paths7969 Месяц назад +61

    cant wait to start doing mace speedruns

  • @AbelDuviant
    @AbelDuviant 18 дней назад +3

    you DELETING the bed and then saying 'hope I don't die' only to die and have to walk all the way back was funny as hell.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  18 дней назад

      classic tho lmao

  • @MCMiner2103
    @MCMiner2103 Месяц назад +55

    Yes. Of course. Normal people in single player mode (where you want to have fun and survive) would go to a internet website and search for structures...

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +16

      Nah, I mean if you grind for something (like the mace)

    • @Sh4dowww-
      @Sh4dowww- Месяц назад +16

      I do that to find biomes cuz I’m not living in a Savana lmao

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      @@Sh4dowww- exactly lmao

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 Месяц назад +6

      Three hours of grinding seems like an ok amount, and imo plenty of people grind for everything except slime chunks without chunckbase, more so if there is an ingame map

    • @Enforc3r
      @Enforc3r Месяц назад +1

      CHUNKBASE!!!!!!

  • @Words-kd3nn
    @Words-kd3nn Месяц назад +4

    YOU DESERVE MORE SUBS AND LIKES BRO. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Thanks, I will

  • @bobdagranny7431
    @bobdagranny7431 Месяц назад +9

    The sheer amount of notch apples is insane - on previous worlds, if I ever found one, I would just hang it up on an item frame on my front door lmao

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      same lmao

  • @certifiedteen2733
    @certifiedteen2733 10 дней назад +2

    Great job on this video man, reallly enjoyed it. Keep it up and God bless 💪

    • @niesn
      @niesn  10 дней назад +1

      thank you :) I will

  • @jackwiggins5962
    @jackwiggins5962 26 дней назад +1

    Music at 4:50 ive heard from ish 1000 player civilization experiment. Also really cool video I think this will be a great update

    • @niesn
      @niesn  25 дней назад

      I didn't know ish uses it, but it's really good music tbh. And thanks, I also think this update will be great (I really hope)

  • @the_prophet_micah93
    @the_prophet_micah93 5 дней назад +3

    For your average player, this is going to be an endgame weapon, you have to have decent gear and weapons plus tools and potions, you need to know how to trade with villagers and all that stuff.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  3 дня назад +1

      imagine not beeing extremely good at minecraft, cringe (jk)

  • @owentonis284
    @owentonis284 26 дней назад +3

    nice video, ALSO YOU ARE A LEGEND FR THE MUSIC CHOICE!!! :):):) I FREAKING LOVE THE SKYLANDERS MUSIC @2:10

    • @niesn
      @niesn  26 дней назад +1

      it's a banger. And thanks :)

    • @owentonis284
      @owentonis284 25 дней назад +1

      @@niesn cutthroat carnival goes so hard

  • @toku_u
    @toku_u 25 дней назад +1

    Woah this is the first I've seen of this update - this is sick! The god apple drop rate is kinda crazy. I started a new hardcore world a few days ago and I already have all the gear I will ever need on the world, Minecraft's progression goes so fast when you know the game and I always kinda crave more. This update looks super fun!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  21 день назад

      I think so too, best update in a few years

  • @Jaivlogsandgameswithhimself
    @Jaivlogsandgameswithhimself Месяц назад +8

    Your channel is heavily underrated. By the quality of the video i thought u had a million subscribers

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      thanks mate :)

    • @Gilly2020
      @Gilly2020 Месяц назад +2

      me too

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      @@Gilly2020 thank you :)

    • @Gilly2020
      @Gilly2020 Месяц назад +1

      @@niesn ur welcome

  • @TimmyBoblox
    @TimmyBoblox 28 дней назад +3

    Underrated channel fr fr

    • @niesn
      @niesn  28 дней назад +1

      thank you :)

  • @SaadTheGlad
    @SaadTheGlad 29 дней назад +1

    Gutes Video! Es hat mir sehr gefallen

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      danke :)

  • @ArjenHowells
    @ArjenHowells Месяц назад +4

    This was so fun to watch!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed :)

  • @Hutch2Much
    @Hutch2Much Месяц назад +9

    something about the mace is that it’s not just tedious to get, but also incredibly situational. how often are you getting the jump on something from 3+ blocks above them, and how accurate is your hit gonna be on a moving target?

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      yeah that's very true

    • @stagnant-name5851
      @stagnant-name5851 29 дней назад

      Enchantments and wind charges makes it a weapon so powerful that only crystal pvp can match up to it. Watch some mace pvp videos, you can hit a target actively running away full speed and combo them. Doing enough damage to instantly kill someone with full prot 4 nephrite armor easily.

    • @brunogoldbergferro5664
      @brunogoldbergferro5664 22 дня назад

      wind charges:

  • @eliteknight2137
    @eliteknight2137 Месяц назад +4

    I had no idea they changed bad omen into potion

  • @d-os1.883
    @d-os1.883 29 дней назад +2

    I think the way you have to be higher than the mob you are fighting makes up for the fact you can get it pretty easily. Plus it's a reward for taking on a more difficult challenge, and the one you can't really easily cheese or autofarm, so i think it's fair as is right now.

  • @CarlMama-li5zi
    @CarlMama-li5zi Месяц назад +2

    i was so surprised you have less than atleast 700k, you really deserve more

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      holy, thank you so much. And maybe it just takes some time

    • @CarlMama-li5zi
      @CarlMama-li5zi Месяц назад

      @@niesn it does, great stuff always comes from hard work,if you ever find yourself demotivated or slowing down just remember the light at the end of the tunnel,that light is ur inevitable success

  • @Tossings
    @Tossings Месяц назад +8

    Best survival video ive seen in AGES good shit bro im 100% sure u will easily get 100k if u keep up this trendy style. Also are u Danish? u

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      Thank you, I'll definitely try. And no, wrong guess. I'm actually German (i think the accent sounds very similar tho)

    • @Tossings
      @Tossings Месяц назад

      @@niesn oh nicr

  • @Iseenomacros
    @Iseenomacros Месяц назад +3

    Can’t wait to see how the Vanilla PvP community to find crazy PvP tactics with the mace

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Yeah, it might get really crazy

  • @Nicehat-
    @Nicehat- Месяц назад +2

    A very good video for such a small channel 👏

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      thank you

  • @vitalspiritvgc
    @vitalspiritvgc 29 дней назад +2

    Honestly this would make an epic speedrun category

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      it would be very interesting

  • @erasmohernandez9612
    @erasmohernandez9612 Месяц назад +3

    Hi man I like you video and do not give up

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Thanks, and I won't

  • @bytezero3818
    @bytezero3818 Месяц назад +14

    While i disagree with the conclusion, imho, the mace is at a good spot compared to the other items, the vid was fun overall, and i enjoyed watching.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      yeah, I respect that. And thanks :)

    • @xadielplasencia3674
      @xadielplasencia3674 Месяц назад

      I think it was fine until the windburst nerf

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 29 дней назад

      Except the 1-hit boss thing and the Density Enchantment, oh and the Breach Enchantment.

    • @bytezero3818
      @bytezero3818 29 дней назад +1

      @@user-tzzglsstle585e38 the 1 hit boss thing with a setup more difficult than just killing the enderdragon with a normal sword.
      The density enchantment doesn't change that fact.
      In pvp you can only 1-hit unsuspecting victims, good luck getting a moving target, which is something a end-cristal can do too
      And 5 hits to kill a fully armored player is finally fast enough that people don't just can keep eating golden apples to offset the damage. That's very strong, but still less than the damage of an end crystal.

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 28 дней назад

      @@bytezero3818 The density enchantment DOES in fact change that, since the setup (which barely requires any) MASSIVELY reduces the amount of block you need to use and fall from-- which also massively reduces the risk.
      And this doesn't change the fact that being able to 1-hit a Boss is just bad game design by itself, especially considering this item isn't even that much harder to get compared to other rare items like Beacons (from Wither Skulls).
      Remember; Ender Dragons and Withers aren't even updated yet which they 100% plan to do, so that excuse isn't even gonna hold up in the long run.
      Think more outside the box because Maces literally limits the variation of mobs and bosses they can add in the future if they ever want to add something actually challenging, by forcing them to only have 1 movement type as to not be a trivial mob to take down because of the Mace
      If you ACTUALLY played with anyone with a Mace before, this one is just straight up not true.
      You only need to drop from 2-3Blocks (a common elevation) to 1 hit kill a fully-geared player with Strength II, if there's no elevation; you can always use Wind Charge to go up 2-3 Blocks which aren't as easy to "simply move away" from.
      Even without Strength II, it's completely possible to nearly 1-hit a Player from just 7 Blocks with Wind Charges even if they are moving, it's not as hard as people here are claiming considering you yourself can move mid-air and you still have 3 blocks of range
      Not only that; the fact that it makes Netherite Swords and Axes completely obsolete is again-- bad game design, because even with End Crystals; both Swords and Axes still have use cases in PvP, now there's no reason to use them at all (Not to mention; End Crystals are completely impractical in PvE)
      Either way, just because there's already an awfully balanced weapon that exists doesn't mean there should be another one.
      Also, they already have combat experiments that are actually well balanced solving the DPS issue we have now, using "people don't just can keep eating golden apples to offset the damage" is simply a lazy excuse for a badly balanced weapon and will not hold up inevitably, so they might as well balance it now so there's not gonna be a bigger backlash in the future.
      I brought up the future a lot here, this is because Minecraft is a long-term game and decisions that works out in the long run are much better than short-sighted features that are only good at the moment, otherwise; you get broken features like Anvils, 1.9 combat, etc.

  • @SamIsPoggers
    @SamIsPoggers Месяц назад +2

    that flying thing is too funny lmao

  • @kagory1002
    @kagory1002 9 дней назад +1

    love ur work!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  9 дней назад +1

      thank you :)

  • @Ninjastarclub
    @Ninjastarclub 27 дней назад +6

    Imagine getting the achievement how did we get there in 1.21 💀

  • @user-sg4yw1fh8n
    @user-sg4yw1fh8n Месяц назад +3

    Bro you deserve a million subs!!!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thank you :) working on it

    • @user-sg4yw1fh8n
      @user-sg4yw1fh8n Месяц назад +1

      Keep up the great work!!!! :-)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      @@user-sg4yw1fh8n I will

  • @theskull1030
    @theskull1030 27 дней назад +2

    I guess we found a new speedrun category.

  • @_EEclipsE_
    @_EEclipsE_ Месяц назад +5

    This was such an entertaining and high quality video to watch for such a small channel! You're definitely on your way to going famous!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thank you, we'll how it goes :)

  • @mctogo001
    @mctogo001 Месяц назад +5

    6 Minutes 47 Seconds. Next video!

  • @dubl9719
    @dubl9719 Месяц назад +3

    It's heavily down to rng. You get the heavy core about 1/12 times so you'll likely have to go through multiple trial chambers to get it. But you could get it first try.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Yeah, that's the thing

  • @iothedango
    @iothedango 29 дней назад +1

    God I’m so glad that a trial chamber spawned in the cave near my base,, I had no clue they were so rare 😭

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +1

      well, 262k blocks sounds insane, I should've put it differently. 262k blocks area = 511x511 blocks area

  • @CKJudi
    @CKJudi 8 дней назад +1

    best video to watch in the background while driving 20km in FiveM, thanks

    • @niesn
      @niesn  8 дней назад

      I feel honored, and thanks :)

    • @CKJudi
      @CKJudi 8 дней назад +1

      @@niesn honored? Bro u shouldnt, this video is an absolute masterpiece, no 5 minute advertisements, no ads (atleast for me), no overly loud commentary, perfect clip cutting and zooms, youre doing really great, keep doing what you do 🔥🔥❤

    • @niesn
      @niesn  8 дней назад +1

      @@CKJudi holy, thank you. And I will

    • @CKJudi
      @CKJudi 7 дней назад +1

      @@niesn np bro, js dont get yo content stolen on tiktok lol

  • @Alacton
    @Alacton Месяц назад +2

    Congratulations, I just became your Thousandth subscriber

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      YOOOOOOOO, wait I've got two of them now lmao (someone else also commented that). But who cares, sub is sub. So thank you :)

    • @Alacton
      @Alacton Месяц назад

      @@niesn RUclips lag I guess, both had the same number.

  • @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39
    @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39 29 дней назад +8

    considering it took you about three hours to get the mace with the sole intent and dedication of working towards it, i think this is less about where it lies in "the progression" of a sandbox game and more that you need to put in work to get a powerful weapon.
    a lot of people seem to view the progression in minecraft as overworld>nether>end which, while it makes sense as a passive observation, if you delve into minecraft's game design it's never that simple. Goals are player driven and need to be weighed out for several factors, how easy the goal is, how rewarding the outcome is, what obstacles need to be overcome, to name a few

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      yeah I agree, but making it a bit harder (like having to kill a wither to make beacons) might be good idea

    • @zarrg5611
      @zarrg5611 16 дней назад

      ​@@niesn I think it should be tied to the monuments instead, that way you have powerful items tied to the Overworld (Mace) Nether (Beacon) and End (Elytra).

    • @schnek8927
      @schnek8927 14 дней назад +1

      This has nothing to do with progression. It's inherently unbalanced in it's current state, which rarity or progression has no effect on.
      With that being said, this was extremely unoptimized and could be cut down to half an hour or so by any dedicated player. Probably even less.
      Find village, level map maker, go to structure (this might take the longest), get potion from vault, get core from vault with potion effect.
      Bring a bed to respawn wherever.

    • @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39
      @terrariaskeletonpre1.0.39 14 дней назад

      @@schnek8927 try the mace yourself, it is not as easy as clicking an enemy to kill it, you actually have to be skillful with the mace, rather than just watching people's twitter clips in which they show the 1 successful attempt after countless failures
      it's powerful, so long as you actually know how to wield it properly, which seems pretty balanced to me

  • @egg1267-dj4qq
    @egg1267-dj4qq Месяц назад +45

    I feel like mace would ruin the use of swords and axes completely. Although there are some counters to the mace such as shields, shields are very easy to break and its easy to get hit with your back turned on them. Plus, if you have the enchantment, the mace will just keep jumping and hitting you until your shield breaks. A good method to escape this is probably pearling away but you can only have 16 of them in a stack. Imagine a fight where its just ppl pearling over and over again. If it runs out, then its really bad. This really encourages the use of mace over axe and sword which basically makes the mace the meta. I know there is a use of axe to disable shields with but the axe just serves that one purpose. What if the mace doesn't do more damage than a sword unless you jump from high enough to give a purpose to the sword. What if there's a direct counter to maces unlike pearls. I thought of breeze balls having a second feature that can be used to dodge in the horizontontal(to not make it too op) direction you are looking, such as a jett dash. I think this would be more reliable than pearls since you don't take damage and also have more stackability during a fight. It also activates instantly so you don't need more reaction time to use it unlike pearls. This would counter the mace completely and make the players resort to swords and shields if they wanna do damage. I wouldn't want a new weapon to be countered completely but this would be helpful when the enemy is eating, not moving, or just caught of guard. The weapon is op and I think it would def have a use with these changes. Thats just my idea.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +7

      Holy. Honestly, these are all really good ideas. But I don't think the devs are gonna change anything. And also, I think ppl will come up with some good counters over time. We'll see

    • @dr_hex9258
      @dr_hex9258 Месяц назад +9

      🤓☝

    • @iulic9833
      @iulic9833 Месяц назад +22

      Dude there's a counter that makes the mace close to useless in the endgame. It's called end crystals. There's an entire community centered around cpvp.
      End crystals absolutely obliterate players if they stand above them, and since the mace's entire thing is jumping to deal damage, it would suck.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      @@iulic9833 wait, I didn't even think of that. But you're right

    • @Sohcahtoa14
      @Sohcahtoa14 Месяц назад +2

      Its very difficult to control, though. I think thats its largest con

  • @Hadeth_a_stepa
    @Hadeth_a_stepa 27 дней назад +2

    There should be some dragon breath in the craft, so it was possible to get a mace only after visiting the end.

  • @takujaba6746
    @takujaba6746 29 дней назад +2

    The problem is, the mace TECHNICALLY is an end game weapon, but due to Minecraft's sandbox nature, the progression is all over the place.

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 29 дней назад +1

      Not just this, Trial Chambers as a structure are made *intentionally* to be a mid-game structure, adding another common effect (Bad Omen) doesn't make Ominous Trial Chambers more on the farther side of the progression, the only late-game thing about Maces is how powerful it is-- trivializing every enemy in this game.

  • @HighImHorizon
    @HighImHorizon 24 дня назад +3

    2:18 powdered snow or whatever the one that makes u fall in is hands down my least favourite addition to this game .

    • @niesn
      @niesn  21 день назад

      phantoms are worse tho

  • @zeratul8372
    @zeratul8372 Месяц назад +3

    Im hoping for you that this blows up!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thank you :)

  • @DodgeThatAttack
    @DodgeThatAttack 29 дней назад +1

    cant believe mojang saw all the problems with villagers and went "lets just make people rely on them even more"

  • @BeepYoutube
    @BeepYoutube 2 дня назад +1

    I could see Mace% being an interesting speedrun category

  • @shafat_gaming.
    @shafat_gaming. Месяц назад +3

    that was a good video mate

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Thank you :)

  • @yalkn2073
    @yalkn2073 26 дней назад +3

    To be fair, it takes about half an hour to get diamond sword/axe, and 90 minutes to beat the game

    • @niesn
      @niesn  26 дней назад

      true

  • @Greeneon6073
    @Greeneon6073 Месяц назад +1

    They should add a magic enchant on armor that makes it so when someone holds a mace near the armor the mace flies away like a throwing trident

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      uh I think that might be to much actually

  • @Catishcat
    @Catishcat 29 дней назад +2

    There are a lot of people who don't even kill the Ender Dragon. Our perspective is heavily skewed by the expectation that we're gonna be playing the same world for a very long time, using the best tools available to us. "Endgame" is different for different people, to me elytras and rocket farms are literally just the beginning. I really doubt most people will be getting the mace, it's a deliberate and rewarded effort.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      true, I agree

  • @Sniffe278
    @Sniffe278 Месяц назад +3

    I haven't tried the mase yet but it seems op but fun and funny

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      it is

  • @ItzCrimsonA
    @ItzCrimsonA Месяц назад +4

    Your a great youtuber, I hope you go viral! :)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thank you :)

  • @lexukeo
    @lexukeo 25 дней назад +2

    I love the " Notch apples! "

  • @biscuit7959
    @biscuit7959 Месяц назад +1

    proud to be ur 1000th+ subscriber

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thanks :)

    • @biscuit7959
      @biscuit7959 29 дней назад

      @@niesn if u get famous 1v1 me

  • @user-ix4tq5uo4l
    @user-ix4tq5uo4l Месяц назад +3

    how are you a small channel and yet you seem like youve been doing this for ages wut. bruh how do you not have at LEAST 10k subs

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      thanks, it might just take some time (hopefully not to long lmao)

  • @Zigzagfabricguy
    @Zigzagfabricguy Месяц назад +6

    I feel like they shouldn't be in the game in their current state. Like, did they playtest them at all? Do they realize that all other methods of fighting will be irrelevant if they dont nerf them?

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      I don't think that all other methods will be irrelevant. Especially crystal pvp might be really op against a mace. But we'll see

  • @elestudiodebuenavista628
    @elestudiodebuenavista628 Месяц назад +2

    Nice video bro.
    I was wondering about how much it'll take to get one of those. For me I would take 3 weeks cause I would need to be full prot 4 diamond cause I am too fearful and won't like to die

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +2

      understandable. And thank you :)

  • @_doglo
    @_doglo 8 дней назад +2

    my only issue is that this is the only item so hard to get.
    if there are more items like this i think its really valid

  • @MaximslavTheTerrariaPlayer
    @MaximslavTheTerrariaPlayer Месяц назад +3

    sorry to ask but whats the chance to get the core from the ominous vault again? like a precentage?

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      uhm I don't know actually. @PhoenixSC recently uploaded a video in which he tested it. I thinks it's like 8-10%

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 29 дней назад

      8%, but considering there are at least 6+ Ominous Vaults in every Trial Chambers; the chance of you getting Heavy Core is actually higher than just 8%.

  • @imx_via
    @imx_via 17 дней назад +4

    Honestly I feel like using ChunkBase is sort of "cheating" in trying to figure out how long it would take, alot of things would become pretty easy to get using external tools, like the same tool can locate huge ore veins that can give stacks of iron for example

  • @imbadatpickinganame
    @imbadatpickinganame 3 дня назад +2

    the best argument for why its too easy to get would come from comparing it to the previous best melee weapon, the netherite axe
    i am a freak of nature and speedrun getting endgame gear before i even have a decent house, i usually play with one other person, i task them with going for obsidian, sheep farm and wood, whilst i go out looking for villages to farm their beds but also make a start on a villager breeder
    within 30 minutes i will be in the nether spamming beds for netherite, the hardest part about netherite is getting to the correct y level without running into lava on your way down, after that, especially with the wood and wool farm done and the other person going for diamonds, we will have full netherite before the hour ends
    alone it would take me around an hour, with a duo, i know it will always be under 1 hour
    this was pre update. with the new update it is weirdly hard to get netherite, when the most notable upgrade is simply that it wont burn in lava. its basically diamond gear that you cant lose in lava.
    comparing that to the mace which you could very easily get within a 1 hour window if you use an online map to find the chambers like a sane human being and honestly, getting it within 1 hour is something i know i could guarantee, especially given that you dont really need to loot up beforehand

    • @niesn
      @niesn  День назад +1

      bro wrote a whole book lmao
      and yes, excatly, thank you. Also full netherite in under 1 hour is insane dude

    • @imbadatpickinganame
      @imbadatpickinganame День назад +1

      @@niesn its honestly very easy if you focus directly on it as your first objective, if i do it solo i will have netherrite before i have diamonds for the netherrite, since it tends to be easier
      but yeah this is far too big of a jump, from barely better to diamond to being able to one shot anything is absurd

  • @KNKNHT
    @KNKNHT Месяц назад +1

    I feel like bad omen is just a placeholder, I feel like an ominous potion, similar to how it's gotten using the ominous potion, would be a more permanent feature

  • @lordender_kitty_official
    @lordender_kitty_official Месяц назад +18

    let's be honest here. no one is gonna speedrun getting a mace that fast unless they're one of those sweats that only plays pvp based smps.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +1

      that's true

    • @laeclorentzen6111
      @laeclorentzen6111 29 дней назад

      There will definitely be a speed run category for it

    • @doge_69
      @doge_69 19 дней назад

      Considering how overpowered this item is, why wouldn't they?

  • @batrachianbill9760
    @batrachianbill9760 Месяц назад +8

    The ender dragon isn't an endgame boss because you can kill it in less than 30 minutes
    jokes aside, this was a good video. It does feel like something's "off" compared to other similar videos, though - you might be rushing through certain parts of the video (as opposed to dwelling on things in order to build suspense), or maybe you aren't overacting as most youtubers do. I'm not any sort of youtube expert though, so take it with a grain of salt. Either way, this deserves more views, and you deserve more subscribers. Keep up the good work!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +3

      alright, thank you so much. Anyways, I'm gonna go overanalyse my video now lmao (but seriously, thanks for the criticism)

    • @trollisourbriteeggs6282
      @trollisourbriteeggs6282 21 час назад

      that's funny because all the things you mentioned are what made this video better than other imo

  • @mrboy4802
    @mrboy4802 Месяц назад +1

    I didnt realize this structure was kinda rare, I had just found one beneath my house above 2 ancient cities that somehow spawned within 100 blocks of each other

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Well, the world is basically split in about 500x500 areas. And in each one only one trial chamber randomly generates. So that can happen if you're lucky

    • @user-tzzglsstle585e38
      @user-tzzglsstle585e38 29 дней назад

      They are one of the most common structures in the game at the moment, even after they made it slightly rare.
      I find Trial Chambers more often than I find Ocean Monuments (another common structure)

  • @tdc455
    @tdc455 29 дней назад +2

    RUclipsr discovers Minecraft's nonlinear game design for the first time

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      omg, it's just my thoughts about it.

  • @Right_Sune
    @Right_Sune Месяц назад +6

    For those who say you don't need to go to the outpost for the ominous bottles... ur wrong! They only come from Ominous Vaults, whcich are accessed from Ominous Keys, Which are from Ominous Spawners, which are made ominous with Bad Omen. Following logic you realise you have to go to the outpost. It's confusing, i know.

    • @anotherpromotor
      @anotherpromotor Месяц назад +3

      ominous bottles also drop from regular vaults

    • @Right_Sune
      @Right_Sune Месяц назад

      @@anotherpromotor sre you sure?

    • @juicymoose8968
      @juicymoose8968 Месяц назад +4

      @@Right_Sune regular vaults can drop ominous bottles of power 1 and 2, whereas ominous vaults drop 3,4 and 5 power bottles

  • @dianatau3903
    @dianatau3903 Месяц назад +3

    Underrated channel ❤

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thanks :)

  • @xcaedes
    @xcaedes 8 дней назад +2

    Loved this video man. Truly feels fresh. No flashing subtitles, edits, explosions, just chill minecraft gameplay. You got straight to the point of the video and progressed through nicely. Immediate sub. Keep up the awesome work man!

    • @niesn
      @niesn  7 дней назад

      Yooo, thank you so much :) I will

  • @henryhere
    @henryhere 28 дней назад +1

    Now see, I like the idea of the vaults giving you big dumps of loot as a reward, but honestly the inventory is just too small to actually make it work efficiently. Mojang needs to either make inventory easier to sort/move so that the space you do have is more usable, or just give us more inventory space, because i absolutely hate standing in a pile of items chucking stuff until i pick up what i want

  • @lasercraft32
    @lasercraft32 29 дней назад +3

    I _don't_ think its too easy to get... Because its based entirely on RNG. Making it rarer would exponentially make it worse and worse to get, because already it can take ages to find one if your luck is bad enough.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +1

      good point

  • @user39482
    @user39482 26 дней назад +3

    Well, yeah, when you try hard the game, play in a completely unnatural way and grind specifically for this one item (and pretty much cheat and use online resources) you're gonna get it eventually. Even so, it still took you three hours just to get it. I think it's fair enough, if not, just a little bit too common with bad omen.

  • @gladesucks7907
    @gladesucks7907 13 дней назад +1

    I think they should SLIGHTLY boost the chance of it dropping when you consider all the hoops you have to jump through to get one

  • @user-ry3xz9go9z
    @user-ry3xz9go9z 7 дней назад +1

    using the skylanders music was actually soo good to this vid!

  • @bearschatmeier5480
    @bearschatmeier5480 Месяц назад +4

    How do you only have 531 subs?

    • @vintastict
      @vintastict Месяц назад +1

      kme too, your video is way to good

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      thank you :) all good things take time (I saw that quote somewhere lmao)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      @@vintastict thanks mate :)

    • @bearschatmeier5480
      @bearschatmeier5480 Месяц назад +1

      @@niesn yeah your content is really good

  • @dominocrownbromark1982
    @dominocrownbromark1982 Месяц назад +4

    before the mace was revealed, I had a feeling they were gonna add a new weapon

  • @gusc061
    @gusc061 27 дней назад +1

    I cant wait for when I can get it in Pocket Edition.

  • @gxhhhdhdhd9067
    @gxhhhdhdhd9067 Месяц назад +2

    you can skip the villager trading part by using the pie chart, I found one in 10 min with no other structures nearby. Ominous bottles can also be dropped from trial spawners and vaults.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад

      Oh, right

  • @jojorobino5312
    @jojorobino5312 Месяц назад +3

    But for some reason, they can't put power and flame enchants on the crossbow.

  • @KrashFries
    @KrashFries 28 дней назад +7

    really disagree with mojang’s tradition of “extending difficulty” by gating good loot behind bad RNG. at least give us a luck potion ffs

    • @lolz3895
      @lolz3895 27 дней назад

      Luck potion exist.

  • @user-mk4he4bd4r
    @user-mk4he4bd4r 29 дней назад +1

    "NORMAL people would just go on CHUNK BASE" had me rolling. W video

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      thank you lmao

  • @GeoSage1137
    @GeoSage1137 Месяц назад +1

    Though its hard to get, the fact that you can get diamonds, notch apples, and other great loot while grinding for the mace makes it a much more realistic weapon. Now if you want great loot, you can rush the end, or one of these things

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад +1

      good point

  • @goddammiteythan
    @goddammiteythan 29 дней назад +19

    what is minecraft anymore

  • @tropicalnofruit1419
    @tropicalnofruit1419 28 дней назад +3

    Stopped playing years ago. Tf happened to Minecraft?

    • @Critter1267
      @Critter1267 9 дней назад +1

      They updated it…?

    • @red2fire2
      @red2fire2 9 дней назад +1

      Haven’t played since 2013, looks like they added some stuff

    • @tropicalnofruit1419
      @tropicalnofruit1419 9 дней назад

      @@Critter1267 you can see how I’m surprised🤣 shits like 3d terraria at this point

  • @tyxolotl
    @tyxolotl 28 дней назад +1

    the thing is the mace deals damage depending on height sure you can 1 hit a warden after setting something up in creative mode but in survival sure you can get it in an hour but killing the warden using only the mace is a lot harder

    • @niesn
      @niesn  27 дней назад

      yeah, you've gotta combine it with wind charges or sth

  • @genericgoat
    @genericgoat Месяц назад +1

    I think the mace would be cooler if you had to assemble a bunch of parts from different areas. Like using an end rod for the handle, and using some combination of a nether star, something dropped by and elder guardian, something dropped by a warden, and then finally assembling it using something you can only get in a trial chamber.

    • @niesn
      @niesn  29 дней назад

      yeah right, that would be so cool

  • @TankieBoi
    @TankieBoi Месяц назад +5

    The item is too strong for Minecraft period, I don't care how hard it is to get. Think End Crystals, annoying and hard as hell to get, but out of place in a fair pvp setting for how utterly broken they are

    • @niesn
      @niesn  Месяц назад +2

      It is really strong, but there are multiple ways to counter it. You can use shields or just move out of the way if you can. Then again, it can one shoot players from a 2 block fall or sth. I guess we'll see once 1.21 comes out

    • @turkey4802
      @turkey4802 Месяц назад

      From an infinite height it’s probably not that hard to dodge

    • @TankieBoi
      @TankieBoi Месяц назад +3

      @@turkey4802 Do we really need to start playing Minecraft multiplayer like it's a third world country and constantly be watching for the equivalent of insta-killing drone strikes? Everything can be "countered" in some capacity, but that doesn't mean it's balanced

    • @iulic9833
      @iulic9833 Месяц назад +2

      End crystals are way more powerful, and are way easier to get (it's just an eye of ender and a ghast tear) than the mace so I'm not sure what the point is.

    • @TankieBoi
      @TankieBoi Месяц назад

      @@iulic9833 I mean, if they're not even considered hard to get then end crystals are even worse than I thought balance-wise

  • @sockhead
    @sockhead Месяц назад +2

    Love the use of Skylanders music ❤

  • @pwrwq
    @pwrwq 20 дней назад +1

    i tried getting a mace with ominnous bottle with just unenchanted iron and a dio sword and got it first try actually
    the non ominous ones are super easy but the ominous ones are slightly harder shields are OP
    (I was on hard btw)

    • @niesn
      @niesn  19 дней назад

      first try? it's a scam lmao. And yes, shields are op

  • @somerandomguy3768
    @somerandomguy3768 28 дней назад +2

    the takeaway is while you can get the mace as soon as you spawn in and it would take you a while do consider the fact that in that amount of time you probably could have beaten the game thrice over with end cities looted

    • @niesn
      @niesn  27 дней назад

      basically yes