Ford Escape - 1.5 Ecoboost JUNK
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- Опубликовано: 29 окт 2021
- UPDATE as of DECEMBER 14,2022
Ford is now claiming that they are not responsible for taxes or shipping costs in the refund. has anyone dealt with this. Seems Ford is doing whatever they can to not pay even under the service bulletin. To date I have only received half of the cost as a refund!
UPDATE as of DECEMBER 2, 2022.
As per the service bulletin listed below - Ford has approved my refund IN FULL.
Please if this has affected you, reach out to your local Ford dealer (even if you have already had the repair performed)
UPDATE as of NOV 10, 2022.
Thank you again to the individual who brought this to our attention.
It appears that Ford is now offering a one-time replacement of these engines at no charge and extending the warranty on the 1.5 Eco boost to 7 years or 84,000 miles. If the vehicle has already exceeded either the time or mileage limits, this no-cost, one-time repair will
last through November 30, 2022. Also if you have had the repair done already, you have until NOVEMBER 30, 2022 to make a claim!
Here is the link to the service bulletin: static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/202...
Also, check-out the "Ford Boss Me" video explaining the service bulletin. This guy is very knowledgeable when it comes to Ford vehicles: • PSA!! 1.5L Ecoboost Co...
Good Luck all!!!
Hi all,
I’m sharing this video today to explain a terrible product Ford puts out these days.
As mentioned in my video this will be my last Ford.
The way they treat their customers is terrible.
If this has happened to you, please contact Lief Cabraser Hermann & Bernstein law firm as they are handling the class action lawsuit. Let’s get the word out in hope we can get reimbursed for this.

Well, Ford can choose to refuse to fix their problem, but I can refuse to buy a Ford!
🤔
But wait.
the TV commercial says, “
“Built Ford proud”
And that Ford is #1 selling brand in America. Thats the the TV says!!
Tv is like news media all lies
@@benitojr468 on pick up trucks yes I own f150 4.6l v8 has over 400k original engine, that's why you buy natural aspirated engines never buy supercharged ,turbo or twin turbo engines
Pretty old of hearing “It’s a Ford” Ford this Ford that. You simply can’t beat on every car the same. Maintenance goes a long way.
@@iamyoung4eva21 Absolutely regular maintenance and keep all records. A separate binder for each car. Also the same service advisor. Same one as when bought Excursion in 2002. It's over 200,000. 92 Acura Legend was over 300k. It was the best car. Same shocks struts and exhaust. Sold to kid in neighborhood $500. Drove 2 yrs totalled. He got $2000!
Our last (and I mean LAST) Ford was a 2000 Windstar whose transmission died at 60K miles. Ford knew about the problem due to many others with the same problem, but they would not help with replacement cost because it was out of warranty. Had it repaired $3k then traded in on a Honda. Been a Honda family ever since.
I had teo friends who had old Ford rear drive Aerostars that lasted forever with almost no maintenance, but it seems like Ford's CEO's just decided to make cheap crap so their quarterly bonuses would get bigger and bigger, Screw Ford.
@@phil4986 My opinion is that it is the exact same story with all of the big 3 American car makers. I’ve bought only American cars for almost 40 years, but never again. My next car will be a Toyota or Honda.
@@mmarciniak Yup. My wife spent five years paying on an Oldsmobile that a month after the warranty ran out it started eating alternators. After replacing two and looking at installing a third and this was from a GM trained mechanic, we traded it in and never bought another American car again. Honda's and Toyota's and a Nissan pickup truck. All been great cars. We did buy a 2012 Kia Rio that was one of the worst cars we ever owned. Only Toyota's and Honda's from now on.
@@mmarciniak And you think they never give problems???? Oil dilution, Oil leaking, fuel pumps, fuel gauges, Transmissions failing on V6 Camrys and many other stories people put up with their Toyotas and Hondas. they had major lawsuits in Australia for major engine fuck ups. The only difference where I agree is how Japanese companies treat their fuck ups. They're much better at taking ownership of their fuck ups. Unreal how some regurgitate with this knee jerk reaction of getting a Toyota, because they had problems with something else.
I know some people who had a F150 with the 3.5 ecoboost. The engine grenaded at just over 60k miles. All services done at the dealership, oil changes etc. Ford's answer? Should have gotten the extended warranty.
Ford Must Be Forced By A Court Order To Exchange All The Bad Motors
there is a class action suit going on right now. please reach out to Lief Cabraser law firm to join
That's why you buy natural aspirated engines. I have a f150 4.6l v8 has over 400k original engine, never buy supercharged ,turbo or twin turbo engines, it will wear it the engine faster.
@@theshield1613 Unless its Japanese technology. Honda's and Toyotas love boost.
@@ATSNorthernMI honda accords 4 cylinder turbo had the headgasket problems, most of my friends bought the 2018 accord or newer had headgasket problems.
If you think toyota handles boost thats funny, theres a reason why ford and toyota use to use mostly only NA engines, its because they actually had a chance to make it past the warranty period and when they did they switched to all these turbo motors knowing it would kill the engines faster, aka making money replacing motors every 50k is more worthy then making a engine that a customer could be happy with. Car companies use to warranty engines for 100k miles/ 10 yrs but now their all mostly 3/4 yrs and 36,000-48,000 miles. Hmm makes ya think 🤔
It seems that the engineering team just didn't know what each other were doing and assumed botching and adding things to the original design somehow made it better. I'm sure they had nothing there before and had sleeves cracking and then decided to cut a slit in the block to help get coolant between the sleeves which fixed the cracking but then introduced head gasket failure. To remedy that, they drilled a hole into the sleeve between the cylinders in question and I'm sure this is going to cause clogs within the coolant system that will plug the passages leading to the cracking issue. These are all open deck engines because of the power these small packages can produce, causes more heat and pressure from boost. I would be afraid to put a tune of these engines to make a lot of power. Older honda's used this design but you could boost a stock motor so high, it produces upwards of 6 to 700hp and do it all day long but a stock ford ecoboost can't even do its factory rated power without blowing out.
Y'all folks are SO obtuse about who is responsible at Ford. Try the "bean counters" that CONTROL the purse strings, not the engineers who are just DOING THEIR JOBS. This is the way American industry works. Good example is Briggs & Stratton, they USED to make "bullet proof" engines, NOW they use PLASTIC camshafts. This is NOW the AMERICAN WAY of manufacturing! Planned obsolescence so you keep buying NEW every 3 or 4 yrs!!
So your compairing a ford design to honda 😂🤦♂️ obviously its gonna be different their 2 completely different engineering setups.
Hondas didn't had direct injection for a long time. Or turbos. When they introduced them their engines started to fail. In the classic setup of wannabe american racer, you can just dump half a tank of gas in each cylinder to cool it. You don't care about emissions or fuel consumption ... you want to spit flames to prove Americans can't win any race that lasts more then 5 minutes. At 5 and 30 seconds the pistons are on the tarmac and it's ok cos the gas tank is empty anyway. The proof that drugs are a problem in US is you randomly recommend the 90s aspirated engines in a car that's made two decades later. Cos the 1.5 turbo Honda that is same year as this Ford is probably Fiat level of engine reliability. Ford messed it up here but so did many. Including Honda. My advice is don't buy first generation of a product. Any product. Wait for second generation let the suckers do the testing with their own money and time and buy later
Are the Ford Escape 2.5L 4 cyl ecoboost, open deck too?
Also, did the Ford Escape 2017-19 2.5L 4 cyl ecoboost have the cracked line, block issue?
Anyone know?
It’s not just the 1.5 but also the 2.0 Ecoboost engines that share this issue.
Have heard the 2.5 as well???
@@steveo601 The 2.5 is naturally aspirated I think, and been around for a bit. I think that one is fine.
1.5L 1.6L 2.0L Ecoboost
@@Mr_Meowingtons is correct
There is an expert Ford tech on youtube that explains the problem. This is the title. = This is Why the Ford 1.5L 1.6L 2.0L and 2.3L Ecoboost Engines are Gulping Coolant!
Thanks for the video. I was looking at the newer Ford Escapes with 1.5L engines. I do not like what I'm seeing. I'm not a fan of these smaller Eco boost engines but my current 2013 Ford Escape with 1.6L engine has 143,500 miles on it and still running strong. It overheated once last summer (2022) when a small hose coming from the back of the engine to the coolant tank broke and lost most of the coolant. I replaced that hose and it's been running fine. The only other thing I did is replaced the valve cover gasket at 138K miles a few months ago. It can still pull hard when you step on the gas. I hate to part with it but I'm not sure how much longer it will last. So, I'm in the market for a new commuter vehicle. I just do not trust the small 3-cylinder engines. My 2009 F-150 with a V-8 is as solid as ever with no issues. Because of that, I'm sticking with Ford.
My 2017 2.0 over 100.000 mile with chip increasing power by 40 HP still going strong. Love it so far. 🤔
I like the FORD sales ads that come up at the conclusion of your video- its like they are watching you and fired a return volley-lol
It does seal properly but boost an pressure in the block cause the gasket an block to fail in-between the cylinders due to pressure
The funniest thing is that I just watched this and a Ford ad popped up at the end.
Yep, my 79 year old mother bought one of these and it was a $8000 repair. It’s a design flaw but that should’ve been a recall but Ford won’t do it without a fight. I have a f150 with the 3.5 ecoboost and it’s been awesome, 370,000 miles of flawless reliability. 1.5,1.8 and the 2.0 ecoboost from 17 to 20 are Frickin junk.
So you know, what junk engines we have to satisfied over here in Europe..once i had bought one of the first zetec generations in a ford Orion 4 door Sedan. Just a nightmare how many failures this engine had..
It is a recall for the 1.5 liters
@@thegrossmansmx really, I wonder if my mother could get her $8000 back
@@stephenbloom2545 it depends of the productionyear..
They changed the half engine around 2018/19 I guess
@@d.b.1008 hers is a 2017
I've owned 6 Ford cars and trucks over my lifetime (bought new) for personal and work use. Every one had problems. In 2006 I switched over to Japanese manufacturers. I'll never own a Ford again.
My fusion just had this happen at 61,000 miles. I bought the extended warranty right before the manufacturer warranty expired so its covered. But a warranty should not be needed if ford knows they built a flaw into this engine its not fair to the customer that ford is making them foot the bill for a flaw they built into this engine
See updated video description
We have a few of these at work. Not sure if its the 1.5L but same body style. The transmission slips in one, and there is an unhealthy grinding sound coming from the front end when turning sharp at low speeds in the other.
Ford now has a program out to provide free short block replacement for engines that have suffered from coolant intrusion. It is CSP 21N12 and covers vehicles affected by this problem that are still under 7 years old or 84,000 miles. I would recommend calling up the Ford Customer Relationship Center and inquiring about a reimbursement for your engine rebuild.
I was (WAS) a Ford dealership mechanic for over 15 years, and know first hand about this failed design with, not just the 1.5, but also the 1.6 and 2.0 ecoboost, as all 3 engine blocks share the same design. I left the business in 2018 mainly due to Ford’s absolutely poor product designs, starting around 2013 or so. I did want to say, I cannot believe, with only 22k miles and only 3 weeks out of factory power train, Ford refused to at least work with you on a repair. As I said, I was in the business for over 15 years and have seen Ford make MANY “after warranty adjustments” on vehicles that were way more out of warranty than what yours is. I know this video is over a year old, so I’m curious if you ever got any satisfaction out of ford because it is unheard of, at least here in the Midwest, for a Ford dealership to tell you to pack sand, with that low of mileage and only 3 weeks out of 5/60 power train.
the only satisfaction i received was this service bulletin released in June 2022. they basically told me nothing they can do. I tried escalating but to no avail. hence this video, hence joining the class action, hence sending a written letter to Ford. I tried all possible means to try and get something out of them. even now it has been two weeks and i have not received a response on my refund after many repeated followups. the service bulletin is clear! 100% refund!
@@puller6044 well, I hope it works out for you! I actually just got rid of my 2017 Escape that had the 2.0 ecoboost, after it’s SECOND transmission, (we had a Ford ESP) which is another story, traded it 3 months later for a brand new 2022 Honda CRV that we had to wait 3 months for.
I’m still a Ford guy, have 3 other older ford’s, (2008 GT500, 2009 Focus, 2004 Ranger) but until Ford gets their act together with the junk they’re building today, I’m gonna stay away from Ford (and the other domestics for that matter).
@@angielover100 Full refund just approved.
2.0 ecoboost from 2010 zero flaws Great engine in my S-max
@@krzysztofpoznan5226 totally different design.
Thanks for the o fo. Unfortunately I bought a 1998 1.5 Ecoboost Kiga and to bo quite honest I amnot quite relaxed about it at all.
I had a 2019 fusion with same engine it had the same issue. If your under 36k ford will replace it for free. I had my fusion short-block replaced. There is a service bulletin on that issue you can look it up on the internet. mine went out at 31k.
I have a base model 2014 with the 2.5 non turbo with 135k on it. Zero engine issues
got 2014 ecoboost escape with over 180000 on it still runs great (knock on wood ) its sad that happened to you but your video hopefully will warn everybody to stay away from 2017 to19.
Luckily the 2014 Escape 2.0 liter engine is a great one. However, there is a weakness with the transmission (some had it, the transmission just dies suddenly).
@@benjilafouine what about the 2014 1.5 ?
@@PaulWhitley The affected engines were from 2017. As far as I know, I haven’t seen anything about the 1.5 L 2014 Escape. However, the transmissions on this model seem to be failing a bit more than other years.
BEST ONES, according to Consumer Reports, are 2015, 2016!
I grew up in a ford family.
Owned fords my whole life.
I have an 19 Escape 1.5.
55k miles and the "coolant intrusion" has already started.
Ford's methods of identifying the problem eliminate the possibility they would find it before it becomes a significant problem nearing engine failure.
Local ford dealership already told me no.
I will never buy ford again.
Hope to trade that vehicle soon.
Please follow the service bulletin link in the video description. Ford released us a service bulletin to cover the cost of this replacement. The dealership cannot say no
Ford has just approved my refund in full based on the service bulletin. Please reach out to your dealership and state to them this can't be a "no".
@@puller6044 Careful , it's not a blanket recall . This Customer Satisfaction Program 21N12 , only grants you an additional year of warranty ( now 7 yrs or 84000 Miles , which ever comes first ) but its only for the coolant intrusion issue , and its listed as a "one time engine block repair " .
I have a 2020 ford edge and I love it but for the last year it has a missing when cold, usually for about the first 2 miles. I hesitate to have it checked due to mistrusting fords technicians know how, but I am worried about it having the same problem as the earlier 2L.
Had a 2019 ford escape 1.5 my engine block went out at 40k miles at 67k miles i had that same issue with that injector a bunch of misfiring. What a disappointment
When Ford refused to intervene with my local dealership over a faulty oxygen sensor that I complained about from the get-go on a Ranger pickup, I swore off Fords forever. When I bought the POS, I wanted to buy American and buy local, both decisions I regret greatly. The new vehicle purchase offered free oil changes every 3,000 miles. The vehicle would lose power at highway speeds and I complained about the issue at every oil change. The morons in the shop would take it up the 35mph road behind the dealershipand return telling me there was no problem. I repeated the complaint at every oil change with the same lousy lip service. The problem got so bad I had to limp the vehicle home at 35mph from 200 miles away on a Labor day weekend. Again, gee, no problems here. Lo and behold on my 16th oil change or 51,000, the heavens opened and allowed the service department to recognize a bad oxygen sensor. They then, rather than apologizing for being too stupid to diagnose a simple problem much earlier, spat in my face with a $72 charge because my warranty expired at 50,000 miles despite my repeated complaining since the purchase. I called Ford and rather than admonish the dealership or offer to refund the charge merely did more lip service and told me they regretted that that dealership acted that way. Ford is a very stupid company that relies on pigheaded generations of Ford buying families to stay in business. See those slick multimillion dollar commercials they run all the time? Imagine losing a first time buyer of a new Ford over 72 freaking dollars. The vehicle was a lemon, the $2,000 Mitsubishi transmission failed like clockwork every 60,000 miles (60 and 120 thousand miles for me and 180 thousand miles after a friend bought it from me). Now I bash Ford every chance I get. You'd have to be an imbicile to limit your car buying to American manufacturers that continue to behave this way.
Yeah I no longer buy new cars but won't buy anything American unless it's from the early 2000's or older. One kid has a 2012 regal with the 2.0 turbo and a 2010 Saab with the 2.0 turbo and those things have constant misfires and check engine lights and other issues. We have a 2011 and 2013 mustangs 3.7 those have been great. Wife got a used 2015 sienna it's like another league in quality. No more American cars. Seems like the foreign ones are more American anyway since they're all built here.
Good for you getting Ford to owe up to their responsibility. I had a 2013 Ford Escape SEL with 84,000 miles and Ford sent me a notice about a transmission issue they would fix for free, had no transmission issue so I let them fix whatever the recall notice relating to the transmission. Afterwards, I got a ENGINE OVERHEAT-SHUT OFF ENGINE indication in RED light. Took back to Ford dealer and now I was informed the car has a "composite engine failure" and this is not covered under warranty. Sold the car for what I paid for it.....$2,500 . I have two older F150's with no problems, with one approaching 250,000 miles(2008 F150). Some days Ford makes a goodie like your Explorer and a "DUD" like the Ford Escape....
Coming off the debacle of the Focus/Fiesta automatic transmissions you get the feeling Ford is cutting the pennies way too closely. I own a Fusion, thankfully WITHOUT the EcoBoost engine, and so far it has been reasonably reliable...except for electrical "gremlins".
I guess the general consensus is not to buy any Ford with a small, turbocharged engine. The 3.5 and 3.0 EcoBoost engines have been decent, but I haven’t heard the same about the 2.7 and any of the smaller EcoBoost 4 cylinders.
Yeaa the sync 1 powered by “microsoft” is the downfall, i get weird interference and ailen noises through the radio even when not connected, problems with bluetooth connecting when the car is cold in winter is also a known problem, the electronics in the ford sync system suck. Ive had to replace the acm behind the baseplate panel 3x now. If you like loud music dont go for ford cause all it takes is cranking the radio up above 23 and she will go pop up in smoke within a given ammount of time.
Ford's older 3.5L ecoboost had the same problem. Supposedly they fixed that problem by cross drilling that area. The only solution for those still out there is head replacement with the cross drill.
It's not in the head, its in the block design between those cylinders. The only remedy for this is to buy the updated block with the cross drilled sleeve instead of the slotted sleeve between the cylinders. It's been a well documented problem with these engines. It affects all sizes with this design.
@@ATSNorthernMI Yep. My bad. Misspoke myself. It's the block.
@@randyscrafts8575 Keep the "internal" water pump, that leaks coolant into the oil causing a "MAJOR MALFUNCTION"?
Watch out for the embedded water pump in your Explorer. The gasket in them can start to fail and leak with little to no warning. The labor to replace the water pump on that model year Explorer is very high as Ford placed it under the engine’s timing cover.
Done with ford too! Got the fiesta had issues traded after 2 years that eco boost escape, after 5 years lots of rattling noise in the engine and loss of turbo power,issues with auto engine start just dying in the middle of traffic, tiking top engine noise.. this will also be our last time buying ford
I've only owned one Ford product and it's a 2004 SVT Mustang Cobra. And it's one hell of a car.
I have my nephew signed up here in Canada for a class action lawsuit against Ford for their 3.5L engine with the internal water pump. My nephews failed, I took the engine apart to the water pump and it was so sloppy that every ounce of coolant went into the oil. I am livid at what this company has become and the horrible quality of our products. Yeah, I work there and I have refused to drive a Ford vehicle since they screwed me over 27 years ago. I've been buying used Chrysler minivans ever since. They give me way less trouble then Ford vehicles are giving my fellow workers. Ford needs new and Better engineers than the clowns they've hired over the last 10 or more years.
2017 Escape, yes. 1.5 liter, yes. 47,000 on the clock. My warranty is over. Now I pray, because I can't get rid of her yet. Bought it in 2019 so I still have over a year of payments, and the car market is crazy still..... I saw all the low down on Ford Tech Makuloco's channel. It's unreal, I had a 2015 Focus with the power shift (POS) trans, got rear ended and totalled, a blessing in disguise, now I've got a Ford with an engine design flaw, instead of transmission flaw. 🤦🤦 Never again with these freaking Ford's.
I have a 2018 SE with the 1.5 EcoBoost. It has 118k miles on it, and it still runs great. It sucks that you had to go through that.
Same happened to me. My mom argues that i did something and been trying to tell her it’s the engine. Luckily I had a warranty to cover it.
Picked up a rental one of these that started knocking at 2000 miles!
Is this the three or the four cylinder motor? I just saw a youtube video of ford boss me rebuilding a four banger and he didn't say why he was rebuilding it or if there was something inherently bad about it.
The entire ecoboost lineup has some sort of major flaws, that's what you get when you try and push big power with a small engine. All cars in general made after 2008 took a steep nosedive in quality, my 2010 Ford Fusion (2.5L 6spd manual) with only 90K KM (6oK miles) is full of gremlins, never know what it's gonna do next.
I have a 2013 Fusion, Ford "facelifted" the Fusion in 2010 and apparently it was different enough from earlier models to "confuse" assembly line workers. My 13 Fusion is the same thing, majorly new, mostly reliable but for random electrical faults. Occasionally the lighting for the dashboard buttons "flares" and they couldn't seem to get the radio and CD player to work. One will work and not the other. Fix the broken one and the "good" one stops working. Also problems syncing my phone.
It's not the small engine that's the issue. It's the design flaws and lack of afterthought by the engineers. The eco boost is turbo charging gone wrong.
The v6 ecoboosts are another story. The 3.5 ecoboost is actually long-lived and reliable when maintained well. I've seen plenty of ecoboost f150s with over 200k and a few with over 300k miles. I personally own a 3.5 ecoboost f150. Best truck I've ever had.
what is this "big power from small engine bad" attitude. Get with the times lmao
@@gamesmaster1060 People perceived forced induction and higher pressure as less reliable long-term.
I have a 2016 explore with the 2.3 ecoboost. I have the exact same problem
They come with a factory crack in the block between cylinder 2 and 3. Lol
Reminds me of the 6spd powershyt automatics. Ford knows there's a massive issue and refuses to recall.
I just test drove a 2020 Escape. During the drive, with the salesperson sitting next to me, all the electronics started glitching. The speedometer turned off completely and I couldn’t see my speed. Afterward I looked up the VIN and saw an open recall due to a problem that can start a fire. There’s no available fix as of right now for the recall. Long story short, STAY AWAY from Ford.
I have the 2015 1.6 and it's my last Ford vehicle from now on
Bought 2019 AWD new. Extended warranty, 7 yr 100k. Large dealer network .Lifetime Powertrain warranty. I get all scheduled service done at this dealer and keep all records. So if or when it has problems, Also bougt new 2020 Escape and Outback.
Turbocharging just increases internal stress and heat on critical engine parts a small 4 cylinder revs engine very quickly and works hard without forced induction when power boosters are added whether from the factory or aftermarket reliability and engine life goes down hill greatly
I'm a ford technician and yup junk junk junk. They aren't getting much better
This happens also in the 1.0 NA 3 cylinders Ford engines here in Brazil
Bad things ALSO happen at Chevrolet, like oil burning with their 2.4L engines due to "low friction" piston rings. Drivers now need to check oil level at EVERY gas fill-up. Some engines reportedly get 800 miles to the quart of oil, Chevrolet claims it's "normal", class action suit has been filed. So, if you're fed up with Ford , run to your local Chevy dealer, you'll be glad you did!
@@TheOzthewiz that is ridiculous in this day and age.
This happened to my 2017 escape at 148,000kms a few months back. Ford replaced the engine for free. I'm in Canada though, not sure if that makes a difference
You must have had some sort of extended warranty?
I've got a 09 Ford Escape 2.5L 4x4 with 340 000 kms, been very reliable 👌 As for you, guess newer is not always better. Hopefully you have it paid off and can move on.
2015 Escape here with the 2.5L, has 243,000 miles (391,000 kms), gotta love the 2.5
I learned that lesson 30 years ago.
I NEVER thought I would see the day,always bought American, when I would say for reliability buy a Toyota or Honda. I'm a retired auto tech.Driving a 2006 Toyota Avalon with 263,000 miles runs like NEW. NEVER a major repair. Secret, synthetic oil change and filter every 3,500- 4,000 miles and trans fluid every 35,000- 40,000 miles. NO flush just drop the pan and replace fluid. Expect 4 - 500,000 miles out of this vehicle. Honda V6 still use timing belt, Toyota a chain on all engines.
I have a 2014 2.0L ecoboost. All kinds of issues quirks, problems and recalls. I also have a 2018 f350 6.7L diesel 4x4 with lots of quirks, issues and recalls. I'm a lifelong Ford guy, still am, but to be safe I'll never buy another ford newer than a 1995. 1996 and newer seem to have more and more problems as they get newer. Had a 1998 f150 brand new. Those are known to blow sparkplugs out the cylinder and a few other problems. I've had several showroom ford's and that's my experience with ford. If I ever buy another new vehicle it'll be a Toyota or Honda product.....but I don't plan to buy anything any time soon.
My 2018 Ford Escape did this exact thing at 10k miles. Fortunately, it was still under warranty and they replaced the engine. It took them five weeks to do this and would not give me a loaner vehicle. Outside of that, I loved the vehicle. I have since traded it in on a new Ford Maverick hybrid. Loving the 44 mpg I am averaging!!
You really didn’t learn your lesson did you? 🤦🏻♂️
Gotta 2017 Ford Fusion SE 1.5L ecoboost that just threw a P0303 code and overheated. Coolant intrusion burned all the coolant out of the reservoir resulting in overheating. Looking at 9k repair and am upside down with the bank. Saw TSB 20-2100 but the customer bears the cost after warranty expired. Ford is screwing over the customers. I agree with you, no Ford products ever again after this experience.
Hey - wrong service bulletin- look at TSB 22-2134. You should be covered. The warranty was extended to 7 years or 84,000miles for all 2017-2019 escapes with this engine. Should get it all covered.
That’s why I’m keeping my 2011 with the 2.5 as long as I can. 200k and other then being noisy which it always has it runs like new.
yeah my dad's 2014 has the 2.5 and I noticed it's a noisy powertrain. But it's been solid other than an EGR valve and a door latch mechanism
They are fine as long as you keep up with the "under body" maintenance. If not, they WILL RUST BADLY! Up here in Wisconsin, thanks to our diligent road maintenance people and PLENTY of road salt, the bodies are short lived!
Yep the 2.5L is excellent, my 2015 escape is just over 243k miles on the same engine/tranny rn
That's a nice looking Ford SUV, but I agree with you about the engine problem in this one. I bet my dad's 2000 Ford Taurus has a better engine in it than that one does. Unfortunately, it doesn't get nearly as good of gas mileage as my 2019 Honda Civic does.
I hear the 1.5 is junk, however I have a 2014 2.0 with near 200k miles on it, maintain it regularly (oill changes, transmission flush, coolant flush, fuel injector cleaning,) and still running great, nice little wannabe rocket. gonna keep it til the "wheels fall off"
My 2013 2.0 EB has been great also.
I don't think ford created that problem until after the earlier 1.5 and 2 L, I had 2013 1.5 with no problems.
It wasn't until Ford revised the engine to twin-scroll turbo (2016) that these started having coolant loss issues
You could part out the car. Big bucks for parts. Had my 2019 rear ended and needed another (used) hatch, $3,300 with paint. Crazy.
It was also done on the 2017-2020 2.0 Ecoboost
EcoBoom!
what was bad with the kent-motor?
I used Kseal coolant additive in 2.0. Cheaper than a new long block.
I have a 2019 Escape (BC Canada) and yup, got coolant leaking into two cylinders this past January. Took months for Ford to get all the parts but they replaced the engine on warranty. I am one of the lucky ones. (It had 37 000 km ~22 000 mi.)
@sharonlee664 hey if it happens again out of warranty, replace it with one of them 2.5L Duratecs motors, you can get them things cheap these days!!
I had the same problem over one cylinder (Quebec, Canada) last year. I had just a little over 70k miles on it. Ford actually changed the engine because it was a "waranty extension" as the tech told me. Took over a month to fix because of parts missing.
Been a Ford Escape guy for the last 15 years, my 3L V6 was a tank compared to this. Yep it was hard on fuel, but it kept me out of trouble for 10 years till it was rusted through. I can tell you, I'll keep this one till it dies (still over one year to pay it out) and I'm done. Enough with Ford. My dad bought Fords for almost his entire life, but not more than 3 years and he was changing them for a new one. I'm the kind who likes to keep his cars long enough to pay them and getba couple of years payments free. I'll buy a chevy or even a RAM before I'll buy another Ford.
2019 explorer sport owner here I bought the car with 39k miles I'm now at 43k I blew the trans twice with in 3 weeks because of break boosting with a really aggressive 93 tune but got it replaced under warranty everytime but after that the cars been great just sucks on gas and the tank is wayyy too small for a car this size but the car has been great other than those rather big issues
Scotty Kilmer has a video on this same issue with this same 1.5 liter Eco-Boost, as well.
My last was a 87 mercury gran marquis with paint peeling off.
I had a 2013 ford escape SEL 2.0L and the engine went on it. Said it was a factory default from the factory
"default"? You mean Ford failed to fulfill an obligation?
Ford took care of our 2017 and our warranty was also expired, it’s your dealership not Ford. And replacing the engine is not the only fix, replacing and head, rings and head gasket is the fix, total cost to Ford was $6822.00 it did take some time as the dealership had to wait on Ford to send the parts.
How is replacing the head a fix for this?
The block is where the design flaw is located. ( slots machined between cylinders 1and 2, 2 and 3, and 3 and 4) for coolant passage.
These passage ways left very little sealing surface between those cylinders and the head.
Never had a Ford, but really like the layout of the Edge. Am debating getting an older one with the 3.5 V6, but I know those have the internal water pumps too. My mechanic said he’s only replaced a few of those in all his years though, and there would probably only be about a 10% chance I would have that issue. Thoughts?
Being a technician here at Ford, 3.5 water pump leaks aren’t very common where I work but is gonna be an expensive repair if you end with one. To change one of those on a Edge we need to take out the engine. On Explorers they are more cheaper because we don’t need to take out the engine to take out the timing cover…
@@Pl4gue.D0ctor thanks…I appreciate the insight!
I worked at ford as a tech for a bit and realized that theres loopholes to save the tech estimated time fixing that you can jack up the engine by removing a motor mount get it up jist enough and you can slip the cover off but just barely. As long as it can be put together in minutes going down the assembly lines thats all they care abt. No engineers care enough nowadays to consider the shit mechanics have to go through to do the simplest of work
Consider a toyota
I own a 2013 Explorer Limited with the same engine and 182k miles. I’m not the first owner as I got mine from an auction with 167k, but I have not changed the water pump from the time of owning it.
I had the 1.6 which was prone to catch fire due to oil from the top leaking onto the exhaust manifold.
PLEASE, tell me WHERE. My '15 Escape (1.6L Eco-Boost) at 75K miles doesn't even show any seepage. I would like to be pro-active, so I won't DIE in a car fire like the KIA/Hyundai Korean juke-boxes.
Our Transit just experienced the same problem
Thank god I bought the same car but with the 2L engine. Never had a problem with it.
2.0 ecoboost is also a problem want to know how I know? I just had mine replaced under warranty for eating coolant. Want to know how much it would have cost out of pocket? 9k
Yep, I have a 2019, bought used " Ford Blue Oval" or whatever it is. it was at low 30K miles and boom. They replaced everything. Its my grocery car. Anyway all fince so far at 41k miles. As I said this it my go around car. I have always had ford trucks with no issues. My F250 is great.
Screw me once; shame on you; screw me twice; shame on me!
In 1977 bought a new Dodge Van, windows leaked and had electrical issues. I sold after one year, but I told the man all of the problems & yes took a loss but was dam happy to get rid of headache.
Have never considered a Chrysler or Dodge product since!
Was driving on to the highway, Had my (2017) fussion in sport mode. Suddenly saw white smoke come from the back end of my car. Then the smoke stopped. Anyone have any suggestions. Really don't want to sell the car, its only 82,000
Look at the description to this video, the link to the service bulletin is there. I think the fusions are covered but take a look to confirm
Same problem with 2017 Explorer Ecoboost 2.3 , just payed $5200 to replace the head Gasket just to find out a week later now the torque converter needs to be replace .
Ecoboost engines are garbage , Ford should be ashamed .
Would like to join the class action suit if anyone has information on it I would appreciate if you can share it.
It’s all 1.5 1.6 2.0 2.3 eco boost engines .. ford update engine block in 2020+ models .. we ll see how that will go … I think most problems are around 2016,2017,2018,2019s ,, early models have issues but not as much those years
I have a European version a kuga from 2014 1.6 Ecoboost.manual 82k on the clock runs fine. Built in Spain apparently. Let's see
I feel for you. I was always a Chevy guy too, (even though I mostly drove Chrysler products which I never had one problem with), but my last several cars have been Ford products (Lincolns) because I really like the looks. The 2.0L had the same problem and Ford knew about it but hoped that the engine would last long enough to make it to the end of the warranty before the customer had a catastrophic engine failure. I'm done with Ford too.
Here's the kicker, I live in Detroit and my whole family has worked for the big three in some fashion or another so we always bought American branded cars. Not anymore, the American companies have shot themselves in the foot too many times and most of us are done with them. I'd be willing to bet that Ford and GM are bribing congress with untold riches to keep the Chinese out of the US for as long as possible because if the Chinese EV cars get imported into North America, it's all over for Ford and GM - well the GM that we are familiar with, not the GM already owned by China.
All you folks that are "done with Fords", Ford doesn't give a shit with you. They don't have any vehicles to sell, due to MAJOR parts shortages and HIGH demand for vehicles. Dealers are already selling the Lightning at $150,000 (NOT a typo) because of all the pre-orders that had to be filled when parts were available. So a few disgruntled Ford owners not buying again, will make squat difference to Ford!
I drive a 18 Ford escape 1.5 and the mechanic I work with told me the issues rely on how you maintain it if you maintain it well it will treat you well he said he would always recommend an escape or explore to anyone better than a Chevy or a dodge but you're choice in taking business else where
your mechanic is lying to you FYI. its a defect in the design. so much so that the replacement blocks they put in are redesigned.
Bowtie much better.
1.6 fird escape is mine..many failed problems
I got rid of my 2017 focus 1.5 ecoboost estate before this happened and replaced it with a 2020 Kuga 2.0 Tdci.....
I have a 2016 and the transmission is trash. For refuses to help me
Happened to my 2015, warranty covered everything
Disappointing. I’ve had Thunderbirds and bought a 2020 Mustang with the 2.3T, now wondering if that engine has known issues. I haven’t uncovered anything yet.
2.3 ecoboost is a good engine
Just get a 5.0
The gen 3 5.0 engines consume oil.
So now it's a paperweight unless you put a new engine
I had this happen to me and it was covered under warranty...2019 1.5
Warranties may be different in USA than Canada
My mom has an identical one and her engine is fine at 70k but her transmission is jumpy. I told her to get rid of it asap I told her not to buy it to begin with.
Send this video to Scotty Kilmer
You can buy a Toyota if it makes you feel better but they did the same thing to me over a 2012 Camry slipping transmission. I was well under the mileage but 30 days over the time and they denied the claim. The dealer said we are replacing 3 of these a week! Sold that car to CarMax and moved on. Will I buy another Toyota? sure for the most part they are good cars and all car manufactures are the same. (Only pay if they have to) I do agree that the Echo-burst engines are crap for the most part. I had a 2019 Escape and dumped it as soon as I learned of this problem.
2014 AWD Escape Titanium, 64k. No issues yet...
Another happy Ford customer. The vehicle has only 22,000 miles on it and Ford won't do anything for him? They know the engine design/head gasket was a built in defect. I would go with Toyota products in the future. Good vehicles that last. Plus Toyota stands behind their product unlike Ford.
2016 1.6L same problem at 106k. Dealer ignored my complaints for 20 months. I was told we cannot replicate the problem , bring it in when it breaks down . The coolant leaked into Cylinder 4 misfires .
No evidence of leaks , no blue smoke, no oil issue. Replaced trans at 72k,
Total BS no offer to assist with rebuild
I have a 2008 Ford Edge. The PTU & rear differential does not have a drain plug. I have a 2018 Rav4 and it has a drain plug. In order to get this Edge to 200k miles it has cost me $10k. A lot of the problems were attributed to a poor design in my opinion. I would stick with Toyota they might cost a little more in the front end & with other makes you will pay for it in the back end.
Brother Look at a Honda Crosstour to replace this POS escape.
Specifically the 2.4 models. the v6 is nice but its a timing belt not a chain.
it will last you well into the future. As with all Hondas you only have to worry about oil changes, batteries, and cv axles.
That has to be under warranty with that low mileage. My 2016 Fusion with the same motor made it to 86k miles until someone spun out in front of me in the snow in 2019 and I broadsided them. Car did a great job of protecting me. If you think Chevy is better, read up on the Equinoxes with the Chinese built engines that burned a quart of oil every 1,000 miles, and GM said that was "normal"
2018 n up equinoxes totally different n better.
Nope. They are having engine problems as well.
Posted your video to face book. Ford wants to sell you your next car, Toyota wants to sell you your next 10 cars!
We should let's everyone know about this problem,
It still happen today on these motor in 2022 that why I got the 2.0 motor in my bronco
Omg…thank you for this video. I have a 2017 Ford Escape . I. Had 50,000 miles on it and my warranty was out 5 months. I had to have new engine. Ford paid 4,000 and I paid 2,000. They also had to put a new transmission. I will never buy another Ford vehicle, never!!!! I hope the class action lawsuit wins and I can be paid back what they should have paid on my engine. Also now I wonder what else may go wrong with my Ford SUV!!
Please look in the description. There was a service bulletin issued in June 2022… Ford is now covering the cost of this repair. But you have until November 30 to reach out.
Ford just approved my refund under the service bulletin - please reach out to your local dealership.
Same Ford that made the 5.4 3 valve boat anchor screwing over millions of F150 customers. I've still got a 50k lawn ornament from that disaster.
We purchased a 2018 escape. I intentionally got the 2.5 l naturally aspirated engine...old school. Like the car. Unfortunately to get that engine you had to forget some nice features like heated seats, because that engine was offered in the base S model only 😔
When i buy my 2016 fusion se i choose the duratec 2.5 why ?because its reliable like hell ...2.0 2.5 duratec are good for 500000 or 600000 miles with proper maint
Yea the 2.5 Duratec is insanely reliable. My 2015 Escape has the 2.5L in it and I have 243,000 miles on the same engine