This was literally my first thought when I read the title. But, I hadn't been able to play Fallout 3 using the steam version. Until, they did an update to the version you can download from the Xbox app. Whatever changes they made to that version finally made Fallout 3 playable on my desktop. If they do something similar to make New Vegas more stable, I'll be happy. Currently, it will start to crash after a few hours of play, I have to shut down, and discharge the capacitors in order to play for another few hours before it starts crashing again.
lol yeah, seriously. Im thinking of a ton of mods whos developers moved on ages ago thatll just be broken forever now. Hopefully the update wont do anything too severe. But, it being Bethesda, I wont hold my breath.
Just turn off auto updates. I was wondering why everyone cries like baby's when BGS updates their games, but people really don't know how to do that I guess.
@@chainsaw8507 It doesn't work like that. Even if you turn off auto updates, you can't play the game if there's a pending update. The only exception is running a Beta version of the game, but a lot of developers don't bother adding those in.
@overlorddoge1952 is that even how it works? Can you choose to avoid the update. Or can you go back. Because if it's a fresh download you get that update anyways
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 You can set steam or whatever platform to not autoupdate and as long as you run the game from the exe directly, steam shouldn't update it because you aren't really launching it through steam.
@@SGTcz90cz I know Skyrim has a downgrader. For the others oh well. Can't have everything in life. Besides, this is all speculation. Sure it's somewhat likely that FNV is getting an update, but that doesn't mean it's true. And honestly? It's not Bethesda's problem that mods will break. The main ones breaking are the ones that actually hack into the code of the game, right (eg. Script extender)? The mods that any other company would sue against? Just seems entitled to me. And I'm a massive Bethesda fanboy, the definition of entitled.
I backed up my mod list from FNV on Steam/Linux up by creating a collection before I added a second drive with Windoze on it and installed it there - cross-platform mod backup perfection.
They'd genuinely get more goodwill releasing anything like this as a new edition of New Vegas for $20 instead of as a free update to the existing edition. So I wonder what impulse will be stronger: getting more money or ticking off their fans?
@@Marco-wp9kw Ah, but in this case the "more money" option would entail doing what would make their fans happy - releasing whatever New Vegas remaster is coming as a new item on Steam rather than an update to the existing item.
I JUST modded New Vegas for a vanilla friendly graphics and gunplay overhaul. My first time modding anything and it was a 4 day project with 150+ mods and a day more with fixing small issues. If this update drops and makes all the mods not work I'm gonna' commit sudoku.
Look up how to change the game's app manifest file to read-only. That'll block it from being able to updated by steam, you'll need to launch the game without using steam.
@@joebenzz but how do i do that? all the tutorials i found are incredibly oudated, there is no option to choose a specific time of the day in settings/download in my steam version
LEAVE THEM ALONE, STOP BREAKING MODS, GO AWAY And no, keeping a downgraded version isn't a be all end all fix because the modding LANDSCAPE changes as a result of the update, version specific mods, etc. Please look at like, any modern skse plugins. It's wholly unnecessary and makes the end user AND modder experience worse. So no, I'd sacrifice paid mods and paid mods 2.0 for one version any day.
My thoughts exactly. It makes me think of how Rockstar butchered their old GTA games with the remasters. Nothing like ruining the legacy of a great game by giving it unnecessary updates.
So, here's what I see as the 'best case' scenarios out of this: 1. Bethesda making a free mini-dlc that ties in with the tv show, as an additional ESP, no different from the pre-order packs. 2. Bethesda using a beta branch for testing a separate remastered version. 3. Bethesda doing 64bit support for free, but keeping the existing game preserved via a public beta branch, so as to avoid breaking mod support and completely destroying the community. At any rate, they REALLY need to announce what they are doing BEFORE they do it, so those that care can make preparations.
Nr. 3 is very unlikely since it's not x64 who make the program working as a x64 program. The coding inside the program is made for x64. All pc works as a x86/x64 hybrid. It already runs at x64 you fool
yeah i agree, this is kind of stupid from a marketing perspective. but you know what i think of all of this updates of their older games is all about, it's that it's easier to update or enhance their older games over creating brand new games because it takes them so freaking long to make any game, so the best bet is to fix or enhance these older games so that they run with some enhanced newer engine fixes and things to make these older titles function more like their newest games because they already know people love these older games anyway so they might as well save some time and money on upgrading these older games. i just don't have a whole lot of faith in bethesda these days, i really hope they don't add something stupid to these older games like a texture update and just leave it at that only like some other game franchises out there.
Watching this almost half a year later and realizing it's been literally radio silent since and even before makes me question if I should even look forward to this. Seems like this is pure conjecture at best.
Worst case? Ads in the Main Menus advertising the Fallout TV show and nothing else. Medium Case? What Juicehead said about updating them to 64 for stability. Best case? Update to 64, Mod support for consoles, and all included in a full remaster that PC owners can get for free.
@@MatanZlatanit’s preventable but it’s fully Bethesda’s fault for consistently breaking many mods over the years by thoughtlessly changing things. It’s really annoying after a game hasn’t been updated in years for it to suddenly get a new update and that update breaks a ton of stuff.
You haven't even seen the update and you are already stupidly assuming they're... I can't even imagine what you think will happen. Pushing an update, maybe a fix to the game's code or something, is not and does not entail ruination.
@@TurtleShroom3 it probably has to do with the game not working anymore on steam, any new person who buys fallout 3 or newvegas are reqiured to install a few mods to get the game to work and this update might just fix that
Don’t care. Mod compatibility on the game is already volatile as is due to the game being updated and legacy mods. Less of that would be ideal for a game so old. And even if these are issues relating to compatibility in modern hardware, the community has created solutions that work smoothly (probably better than an official solution ever will tbh) and overall contribute to better health for the game and its community as a whole with the knowledge that mod support is still intact.
JuiceHead, could you please tell your fans that updates can be avoided by simply moving the game directory outside of the steam folder instead of waiting or needing to downgrade to save mods. It's recommended to make a copy of your fresh game files and just leave those somewhere putside of steam as your base game backup, then you can infinitely copy that to create modlists on copies of the backup without ever worrying abt updates. The only thing people will need to do is tell their mod organizers where their mod copy of the game files are instead of their backup or steam copy
This doesn't fix the problem. Updates forces some mod authors to update their mods, others have quit modding or moved to other games, and now both mod authors and users have to know exactly what update the mod is for, mod authors have to make sure to specify which file to download for which version, some authors won't do this and it's left to the user to figure out if it will work, etc. Just look at SkyrimSE. There's a plethora of examples of how much of a mess modding Skyrim is at the moment.
Supposedly in a leaked file that states bethesdas slotted upcoming titles, there’s one that was simply titled “Project Platinum” and I will die on the hill of hope, that it’s in reference to the platinum chip, and that it’s a remaster of new Vegas.
I don't think so. FNV is too old and I don't think they can simply add Creation Club on top of it. They might just patch it or add few things here and there.
If you're using NVSE mandatory mods, then you're likely launching it with a mod manager and NVSE launcher, and not running the actual New Vegas launcher itself. You can change the Steam setting for new vegas to only update on launch, and by launching with NVSE, it never triggers the update. The other solution is to download the depot cache of the last version of New Vegas, and move it to a separate directory so you can copy/paste it back into your working New Vegas directory if it does update, assuming that most/all the existing base of New Vegas mods aren't updated, which is an entirely plausible scenario.
@Leeloo_the_fox That's because you did something wrong, Steam never auto-updates for no reason. Sounds like your global settings just overwrote it. Same thing happens with cloud sync, you gotta make sure it's disabled everywhere.
I can just feel it in my gut that certain elements and ( hopefully not) songs that we all love about the game will be gone. I’ve been playing since release in 2010 at 9 years old and ever since I’ve never got the same good feeling NV had. And now they’re ruining games that are 14 years old... wow
Absolutely. The biggest frustration with old games is how they force resolutions and have terrible multi-screen compatability. Terrible load times are a concern, too.
And yet, updates most likely won't address these issues. Most that will happen with what you two regard is texture upscale (and badly, just like Skyrim), solving load times or other issues is on an engine level, they won't even touch these
Yes, it's very unfortunate but "a game that runs kinda okay on hardware widely available on release" is probably not likely. I would say that's basically bare minimum for games they're constantly reselling, but if Fallout 76 can't do it, then releasing a Mini-Nuke full of games won't.
Best case scenario it's a compatibility update for newer consoles. Otherwise it's just some behinds the scenes stuff. It's been 3 months now so it may have been nothing.
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywereherestarfield is on creation engine. Just because they slapped a 2 on the end to try to misdirect all the hate for CE, doesn’t make it a new engine.
iirc, Skyrim Special Edition was treated as a separate game from Steam's perspective, rather than a forced update. There might have been a discount for players who bought the original game and all dlc (or equivalently, bought the Legendary Edition). If they make 64-bit versions of FONV and FO3, I think that would be a good way of handling it, so players can choose whether to switch to the 64-bit edition or stick with 32-bit edition for the sake of mod support.
Its likely something like a stability change like Fallout 3 got where they removed the Microsoft Direct X games for Windows Live check to allow the game to run better on other non window devices such as consoles and things. Windows 11 has been wreaking havoc with older games making them unplayable in some cases. With the potential of new fans from the TV series coming in, Bethesda might just be doing some quality of life shoring up of the older titles. :)
I really hope we get a Half-Life 1 styled overhaul of the games that Valve did for the 25th Anniversary so that we can actually play the games without needing to mod them to just access them without breaking.
I still find it crazy that some of there older games are getting MORE content updates then Starfield. I am not complaining "too" much, but they REALLY should focus on fixing that or ES6 vs updating 15+ year old games.
it's an insignificant amount of resources going to these things. Even Skyrim Anniversary was just a repackaging of third-party mods, with a tiny bit of engine changes that probably took 1 dev a week to do. They'll probably release some new weapons and armor as a tie in promotion with the TV show. I hardly call those content updates. Obviously they're working on a full sized DLC for Starfield that's probably costing them 100x as much as all these little promotional things combined.
I am expecting a store front to try and sell mods for NV, thats the most likely thing that will happen, and with it I fully expect chnages that brak mods so you have to use the store for them -.-
In another episode of "Let's break every single mod created in the last fifteen years", watch as Bethesda annihilates the entire modding scene yet again to add a lame MTX shop and no meaningful content. Seriously, at some point you gotta leave it to the community to take care of the old titles. This especially sucks since mods work in clusters and have tons of dependencies, meaning if a single modder has quit the modding scene or just doesn't feel like updating his ten year old mods, the entire modding scene can essentially be destroyed for months.
@@TurtleShroom3 How is that a stupid mindset? THOUSANDS of mods will be broken from this update and most of those will never be updated to work ever again as they are many years old. As a person with over 40 active mods in my mod-list I would rather not have to uninstall/reinstall the very few mods that are updated or be forced to play the vanilla game.
personally, i think they are adding series easter eggs to the old games in order to resale to new players and attempting to canonize the live series into the old lore
They are really committed om breaking the legs of moding comunity hum? bad move if that is the case. ps: what mod is the one "overhaling underutilized locations of new vegas"?
dude sweet i LITEERALLY just downloaded fallout series and skyrim because growing up i never got to play them so this gives me even more reason to play
It does make some sense in updating the rating for a bundle offer as here in uk its still has the old classification board rating ie bbfc ratings not the pegi rating , we still use the pegi rating even when we are not politically in eu anymore . still makes very little difference because it rated at 18 , possibly to stream line the service
@@evilchild1851 I'm currently playing both NV and FO3 on my Series X, complete with 60fps updates. They play flawlessly. That being said, i'd love it if Bethesda would do to them what they did with Skyrim.
New Vegas is the one game that could more easily tie in with a west coast focused TV show. But watch them remove the NCR from the game so it more closely matches the TV show.
God I hope that if they do update New Vegas that they make it more compatible with modern GPU drivers. I am still trying to get New Vegas to run on my new GPU and I would be so happy to see a change.
I just hope they don’t actualt start changing anything in terms of the actual content as I’m very scared of them possibly damaging the integrity of it in terms of what the devs who made it intended
Nah they are smart and they know the TV show is going to bring millions back and new people alike to fallout new Vegas first then 3 and 4. They’re just making them more playable on modern systems is all. Fallout 4 gets its update the 25th apparently. Playing New Vegas until then
I would almost guarantee this is nothing. Youve made several videos about the old Fallout beta branches a few times now.l with nothing to show for it. But hey go off I guess.
Dont remember the name but iirc its the special weapon you build as part of the Crusaders quest in the Frontier. I am a bit nervous now with any update beth is planning - If they do a 64 bit update it likely would be a separate version to "sell" again like they did with skyrim. I just hope they don't break New Vegas like they did FO3 and try to add a mod store to that old game
Thought so. I've played this game religiously and have combed through every inch of every Map/DLC so I kinda got my hopes up in the thought I might have missed something(as you can tell I'm looking for any reason to start up my 2000th campaign) @@williambrown8686 Edit: eh I'll start another campaign just for the fun of it. Time to celebrate my return to the Mojave desert i wonder what RP I'll do this time around before I lose all sense of character and fall back into my old whimsical ways.
What is most likely the case is that they fix the "censored" versions of F:NV as the Ultimate Edition is also Uncut in germany, etc. which leads to many mod issues
Tangential! I started playing Fallout 3 last night for the first time! Stepping out from the vault and looking at the world beyond has to be one of the best sights I’ve ever seen this year in gaming!
"Fallout III" butchers the lore, people have told me. Namely, the stupidity of no trees or civilizations growing anywhere in eons, Megaton's pre-cult residents building a city in a crater, and the entire * SPOILER ALERT * * SPOILER BELOW * The entire quest where you go to get a Garden of Eden Creation Kit that works perfectly, AND THEY USE IT SOLELY AS A WATER FILTER. THIS IS IN A WORLD WHERE ROBOTS DRAW CLEAN WATER FROM THE AIR, AND THOSE ROBOTS STILL EXIST. YOU CAN GET ONE.
NO GOD NO!!!! Aside from breaking our mods this is probably a stealth edit to bring the game into ESG compliance that would explain the Pegi rating. God damned Children of Woktom cult members at it again.
My theory is that its an updated mod sdk for vegas. They realize that fallout new vegas is their most loved story, and fallout 4 has the best modding scene, so they're probably trying to add creation club or bethesda net mods.
Amazon just announced major layoffs in the entertainment branch of the company and are reportedly VERY unhappy with the Fallout TV series. They may abandon it, i.e. cancel it and dump all episodes on streaming, in order to focus more people and resources on Rings of Power Season 2 which has finished principle filming but seems to be in creative limbo right now.
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Watch it just be a patch to remove music they dont have a license for anymore.
Imagine they took out big iron or blue moon, the game wouldn’t feel the same anymore.
That would suck. I doubt it, though.
Nah... that would be pointless. Would be modded back in with a day at most.
This was literally my first thought when I read the title. But, I hadn't been able to play Fallout 3 using the steam version. Until, they did an update to the version you can download from the Xbox app. Whatever changes they made to that version finally made Fallout 3 playable on my desktop. If they do something similar to make New Vegas more stable, I'll be happy. Currently, it will start to crash after a few hours of play, I have to shut down, and discharge the capacitors in order to play for another few hours before it starts crashing again.
It could also be an update to the engine
Maybe to fix some form of security issue or making it work better with modern operating systems
The fallout new vegas update almost makes me wish for a nuclear winter
Ah, the nostalgic emotions bubbling up. 😊
@@KalousTheGuy I think it's more fear than nostalgia, we're talking about Bethesta Game Studios
When I got this update I was hoping there would be more gambling
the community wont go quietly
bethesda can count on that
whats there to be afraid of? just play old aka current version if you don't like new one@@weiserwolf580
Yikes. Mods everywhere screamed out in terror.
lol yeah, seriously. Im thinking of a ton of mods whos developers moved on ages ago thatll just be broken forever now. Hopefully the update wont do anything too severe. But, it being Bethesda, I wont hold my breath.
Nah it'd be worth it for what you could do with mods afterwards.
Better turn off auto updates and only launch via script extender haha.
@@eggy6857 who even buys singleplayer games, i can use whatever version i want whenever i want 😎
@@CanonOverseer Yea, see the bluescreen no man or woman has ever seen before
Steam needs to allow you to block updates for certain games. This is ridiculous.
You can. I have avoided all Skyrim SE updates. For 3 years. I still play on 1.5.97. I do not even get notified from Steam when there is an update. 😉
@@thepatriot6966 how do?
@@thepatriot6966 teach me your ways
Just turn off auto updates. I was wondering why everyone cries like baby's when BGS updates their games, but people really don't know how to do that I guess.
@@chainsaw8507 It doesn't work like that. Even if you turn off auto updates, you can't play the game if there's a pending update. The only exception is running a Beta version of the game, but a lot of developers don't bother adding those in.
If this ends up like GTA IV's giant music removal update I'm gonna be pissed.
Just…… don’t download the update?
@@overlorddoge1952 Steam literally autoupdates it.
@@overlorddoge1952 redditor moment
@overlorddoge1952 is that even how it works? Can you choose to avoid the update. Or can you go back. Because if it's a fresh download you get that update anyways
@@absolutelyfookinnobody2843 You can set steam or whatever platform to not autoupdate and as long as you run the game from the exe directly, steam shouldn't update it because you aren't really launching it through steam.
This concerns me, an update on a game this old means lots of broken mods that won't get updated
Set your game to not update automatically and only use the mod launcher. Easy bypass
@@vokqeYes, as long as you launch the game through a program like mod organizer 2.
And if I dont want to have Skyrim, FNV and who knows what else permainstalled? What if I get a new SSD and install a fresh OS?
Sounds like a you problem! This is their game after all. 😂😂😂😂
@@SGTcz90cz I know Skyrim has a downgrader. For the others oh well. Can't have everything in life. Besides, this is all speculation. Sure it's somewhat likely that FNV is getting an update, but that doesn't mean it's true. And honestly? It's not Bethesda's problem that mods will break. The main ones breaking are the ones that actually hack into the code of the game, right (eg. Script extender)? The mods that any other company would sue against? Just seems entitled to me. And I'm a massive Bethesda fanboy, the definition of entitled.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD IF I HAVE TO RE DO MY MOD LIST IM GONNA SCREAM
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Don't update and use a stock game (copy the game to a different location to remove it from steam updates/use mod organizer 2)
copy your mods to a folder, pirate the last version of the game, copy and paste the mods. don't forget to back up config files and saves
I backed up my mod list from FNV on Steam/Linux up by creating a collection before I added a second drive with Windoze on it and installed it there - cross-platform mod backup perfection.
@@Channel-io4xu orrr just don't download the update lol.
Bethesda is rabidly desperate to burn every last molecule of good faith and legacy they had.
They'd genuinely get more goodwill releasing anything like this as a new edition of New Vegas for $20 instead of as a free update to the existing edition.
So I wonder what impulse will be stronger: getting more money or ticking off their fans?
We tried to tell y'all years ago.
@@PhysicsGamer we already know the answer is money, it's always money.
@@Marco-wp9kw Ah, but in this case the "more money" option would entail doing what would make their fans happy - releasing whatever New Vegas remaster is coming as a new item on Steam rather than an update to the existing item.
You guys are getting mad they're probably going to make the game more stable? You're so ungrateful
I JUST modded New Vegas for a vanilla friendly graphics and gunplay overhaul. My first time modding anything and it was a 4 day project with 150+ mods and a day more with fixing small issues. If this update drops and makes all the mods not work I'm gonna' commit sudoku.
Look up how to change the game's app manifest file to read-only. That'll block it from being able to updated by steam, you'll need to launch the game without using steam.
I honestly don't know whether that sudoku joke was intentional or not but it is very funny.
U mean sepuku
Lol "sudoku" 😂
@@reggiereagan2214Missed it...
"If you want to see the fate of mods, look at the patch updates" - Mr House probably
Todd please, I JUST got back into FNV after six years 😭😭😭
Literally same, just started a new FNV playthrough 2 weeks ago for the first time in like 5 years.
Yeah turn off auto updates for any game you've modded
Make the app manifest read only
@@joebenzz but how do i do that? all the tutorials i found are incredibly oudated, there is no option to choose a specific time of the day in settings/download in my steam version
@@leonardorosadossantos9876 Right click the game in question > Properties > Updates > Automatic Updates > Only update this game when I launch it
And in that moment, a modding community let out a synchronous explicative.
they don't even have enough middle fingers for these updates lol
LEAVE THEM ALONE, STOP BREAKING MODS, GO AWAY
And no, keeping a downgraded version isn't a be all end all fix because the modding LANDSCAPE changes as a result of the update, version specific mods, etc. Please look at like, any modern skse plugins. It's wholly unnecessary and makes the end user AND modder experience worse. So no, I'd sacrifice paid mods and paid mods 2.0 for one version any day.
This is what happens when people cry about about the game being broken for years.
They start fixing them.
@@alexwalters35 bro hates passionate content made for free for the good of the players
he's probably just a salty console player@@innocentbystander1993
My thoughts exactly. It makes me think of how Rockstar butchered their old GTA games with the remasters. Nothing like ruining the legacy of a great game by giving it unnecessary updates.
@@rakentou And yet the irony just shines with the OP and probably you.
It's actually just another remaster of Skyrim disguised as New Vegas.
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So, here's what I see as the 'best case' scenarios out of this:
1. Bethesda making a free mini-dlc that ties in with the tv show, as an additional ESP, no different from the pre-order packs.
2. Bethesda using a beta branch for testing a separate remastered version.
3. Bethesda doing 64bit support for free, but keeping the existing game preserved via a public beta branch, so as to avoid breaking mod support and completely destroying the community.
At any rate, they REALLY need to announce what they are doing BEFORE they do it, so those that care can make preparations.
How about 4. Bethesda also preparing for updates for the Console versions?
I don't see them doing any of those things
Nr. 3 is very unlikely since it's not x64 who make the program working as a x64 program. The coding inside the program is made for x64. All pc works as a x86/x64 hybrid. It already runs at x64 you fool
they might as well remaster it
@@alexwalters35are you sure obsidian owns the rights to fnv? I would think BGS owns it, they just don’t really care for it
@@alexwalters35 Pretty sure both Bethesda and Obsidian are under Microsoft now so if Microsoft wanted it, it would happen.
@@bobross5439True, but it’s most likely not going to happen.
Well they should buy Obisidian then@@alexwalters35
@Erneld especially without a 4GB RAM limit that 32 Bit app's have
Why have we still not heard anything about the Fallout 4 update? The new show starts next month. Pretty wild.
Because they not very good keeping in touch with customers
yeah i agree, this is kind of stupid from a marketing perspective.
but you know what i think of all of this updates of their older games is all about, it's that it's easier to update or enhance their older games over creating brand new games because it takes them so freaking long to make any game, so the best bet is to fix or enhance these older games so that they run with some enhanced newer engine fixes and things to make these older titles function more like their newest games because they already know people love these older games anyway so they might as well save some time and money on upgrading these older games.
i just don't have a whole lot of faith in bethesda these days, i really hope they don't add something stupid to these older games like a texture update and just leave it at that only like some other game franchises out there.
Because F4 is complete trash
@@RUclipsCommenterYo nah, it's pretty good
It's going to be a flop they'll make fo4 as unplayable on next Gen as it is on previous Gen
Feels like Bethesda is just looking for a new cash cow to milk...
No, they’re doing something they should’ve done a long time ago. Making the game playable on modern PCs.
Feels like Bethesda is just looking for a new crash
@@alenmack3471 why? The VNV guide provide a super stable and smooth experience, they are going to break mods, thats what they will do
@@alenmack3471ya isn’t fallout 3 not playable on windows 11
@@alenmack3471 they're doing something they already did like 3 years ago? sure jan
Don’t let Bethesda anywhere near New Vegas!!
Mf, look at what obsidian did to outer worlds, they lost their touch. Bethesda isn’t good either, but they can’t to wrong with something like this.
@@NovahShark Ok and? Your point? Bethesda still shouldn't touch New Vegas, stop deflecting criticism.
@@NovahShark Also Outer Worlds is better than any Bethesda game post Skyrim.
@@Badookum It's exactly the f****** same
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere what is? Please explain since i have no idea what you're trying to say here.
Watching this almost half a year later and realizing it's been literally radio silent since and even before makes me question if I should even look forward to this. Seems like this is pure conjecture at best.
actually there might be some hope , cause the 2 season of foTv show takes place in new vegas but idk 🤷
I’m very skeptical of what Bethesda might do with this update as exciting it is I’m just wondering what they are going to do.
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@@innocentbystander1993oh thanks it’s just one I randomly found online
Toddy wants more paid mods so he can buy more yachts
Worst case? Ads in the Main Menus advertising the Fallout TV show and nothing else.
Medium Case? What Juicehead said about updating them to 64 for stability.
Best case? Update to 64, Mod support for consoles, and all included in a full remaster that PC owners can get for free.
I am not, almost everything they did in last decade only did damage
every time i hear new update, i get fearful.
Just don't update the game it's not that complicated man
stop panicking you don't have to have it, jesus why are people so scared of everything even things they can easly prevent.
@@MatanZlatanit’s preventable but it’s fully Bethesda’s fault for consistently breaking many mods over the years by thoughtlessly changing things. It’s really annoying after a game hasn’t been updated in years for it to suddenly get a new update and that update breaks a ton of stuff.
the updates might destroy your mod loadout though so it's good to be a little wary
They realized can’t make good games anymore so they want to destroy the old ones we love.
You haven't even seen the update and you are already stupidly assuming they're... I can't even imagine what you think will happen. Pushing an update, maybe a fix to the game's code or something, is not and does not entail ruination.
@@TurtleShroom3 it probably has to do with the game not working anymore on steam, any new person who buys fallout 3 or newvegas are reqiured to install a few mods to get the game to work and this update might just fix that
Don’t care. Mod compatibility on the game is already volatile as is due to the game being updated and legacy mods. Less of that would be ideal for a game so old. And even if these are issues relating to compatibility in modern hardware, the community has created solutions that work smoothly (probably better than an official solution ever will tbh) and overall contribute to better health for the game and its community as a whole with the knowledge that mod support is still intact.
@damsen978
What about "Fallout IV"? I heard that one was decent.
@@TurtleShroom3 todd howard gonna find some way to ruin new vegas
JuiceHead, could you please tell your fans that updates can be avoided by simply moving the game directory outside of the steam folder instead of waiting or needing to downgrade to save mods.
It's recommended to make a copy of your fresh game files and just leave those somewhere putside of steam as your base game backup, then you can infinitely copy that to create modlists on copies of the backup without ever worrying abt updates.
The only thing people will need to do is tell their mod organizers where their mod copy of the game files are instead of their backup or steam copy
This is the way. You can sidestep the update check by running the executable directly.
But then he can’t fearmonger!!
This doesn't fix the problem. Updates forces some mod authors to update their mods, others have quit modding or moved to other games, and now both mod authors and users have to know exactly what update the mod is for, mod authors have to make sure to specify which file to download for which version, some authors won't do this and it's left to the user to figure out if it will work, etc. Just look at SkyrimSE. There's a plethora of examples of how much of a mess modding Skyrim is at the moment.
Supposedly in a leaked file that states bethesdas slotted upcoming titles, there’s one that was simply titled “Project Platinum” and I will die on the hill of hope, that it’s in reference to the platinum chip, and that it’s a remaster of new Vegas.
TLDW: Just speculation due to a new beta branch on SteamDB (doesn't mean anything) and updated PEGI score.
yea, because its totally not like their going to ruin New Vegas. Right... >_>
@@MLPDethDealr32yeah, they won’t
Speculation, but timing is curious enough.
@@MLPDethDealr32 Yeah making the game stable is so horrible, right?
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg do you really believe that? That it will make it more stable?
More than likely, Bethesda wants to push creation club into it....
and break it in the process
If you truly believed that you'd bet money on it.
That's possible. If so it will just be their thoughtless mod breaking again...
I don't think so. FNV is too old and I don't think they can simply add Creation Club on top of it. They might just patch it or add few things here and there.
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This was my first thought as well.
can i just turn off auto updates on steam to stop it from breaking my mods?
@Leeloo_the_foxdamn ok i’ll just turn it on just in case
If you're using NVSE mandatory mods, then you're likely launching it with a mod manager and NVSE launcher, and not running the actual New Vegas launcher itself. You can change the Steam setting for new vegas to only update on launch, and by launching with NVSE, it never triggers the update.
The other solution is to download the depot cache of the last version of New Vegas, and move it to a separate directory so you can copy/paste it back into your working New Vegas directory if it does update, assuming that most/all the existing base of New Vegas mods aren't updated, which is an entirely plausible scenario.
@@terryfaugno9242 ahhh ok ty yes i’m launching it through vortex
@Leeloo_the_fox That's because you did something wrong, Steam never auto-updates for no reason. Sounds like your global settings just overwrote it. Same thing happens with cloud sync, you gotta make sure it's disabled everywhere.
Some of us use TTW and when TTW updates our saves get corupted
Guys, Backup your modded games,this is the number 1 rule for every modder or player who modded the game with passion during months
this is just rock solid advice
I can just feel it in my gut that certain elements and ( hopefully not) songs that we all love about the game will be gone. I’ve been playing since release in 2010 at 9 years old and ever since I’ve never got the same good feeling NV had. And now they’re ruining games that are 14 years old... wow
I would love to see 64-bit FNV supporting newer graphics features and aspect ratios.
Absolutely. The biggest frustration with old games is how they force resolutions and have terrible multi-screen compatability.
Terrible load times are a concern, too.
And yet, updates most likely won't address these issues. Most that will happen with what you two regard is texture upscale (and badly, just like Skyrim), solving load times or other issues is on an engine level, they won't even touch these
That would break pretty much every mod. It would need to be a seperate version.
Yes, it's very unfortunate but "a game that runs kinda okay on hardware widely available on release" is probably not likely. I would say that's basically bare minimum for games they're constantly reselling, but if Fallout 76 can't do it, then releasing a Mini-Nuke full of games won't.
I swear to god I better not have my mods broken, I'm not playing vanilla Dead Money ever again.
Why?
I'd be a little worried about this, the fallout 4 update trashed a lot of mods
If they just give fallout 3 steam achievements that alone would make my day.
Best case scenario it's a compatibility update for newer consoles. Otherwise it's just some behinds the scenes stuff. It's been 3 months now so it may have been nothing.
It’s absolutely criminal that we don’t have a remaster yet
This way they can break all the best mods, and sell creation club fixes.
Not when creation club is incompatible with the old engine
@@ChaseMC215 this isn't an old engine this is the same engine that runs Fallout 4 and Skyrim starfield is the only Bethesda game with a new engine
@@Doyoueverwonderwhywereherestarfield is on creation engine. Just because they slapped a 2 on the end to try to misdirect all the hate for CE, doesn’t make it a new engine.
the re-rating can do with improved graphics and/or new content, which would need to be re-evaluated to update the rating.
iirc, Skyrim Special Edition was treated as a separate game from Steam's perspective, rather than a forced update. There might have been a discount for players who bought the original game and all dlc (or equivalently, bought the Legendary Edition). If they make 64-bit versions of FONV and FO3, I think that would be a good way of handling it, so players can choose whether to switch to the 64-bit edition or stick with 32-bit edition for the sake of mod support.
Its likely something like a stability change like Fallout 3 got where they removed the Microsoft Direct X games for Windows Live check to allow the game to run better on other non window devices such as consoles and things. Windows 11 has been wreaking havoc with older games making them unplayable in some cases. With the potential of new fans from the TV series coming in, Bethesda might just be doing some quality of life shoring up of the older titles. :)
I really hope it's just bringing stability to the game. Its my favorite game and has crashed on me countless times, yet I keep coming back to it.
Surely BGS isn't just going to add creation club
This scares me more than anything.
Bugthesda : guess who’s getting updatedddd ?
The modding community : REEEEEEE !!!
So much for that update, huh?
I really hope we get a Half-Life 1 styled overhaul of the games that Valve did for the 25th Anniversary so that we can actually play the games without needing to mod them to just access them without breaking.
New Vegas is still the best Fallout game I've played.
That was my first fallout game, yeah it crashed a lot but damned if I didn't love every minute of it
I still find it crazy that some of there older games are getting MORE content updates then Starfield. I am not complaining "too" much, but they REALLY should focus on fixing that or ES6 vs updating 15+ year old games.
it's an insignificant amount of resources going to these things. Even Skyrim Anniversary was just a repackaging of third-party mods, with a tiny bit of engine changes that probably took 1 dev a week to do.
They'll probably release some new weapons and armor as a tie in promotion with the TV show. I hardly call those content updates.
Obviously they're working on a full sized DLC for Starfield that's probably costing them 100x as much as all these little promotional things combined.
*their
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Keep learning English.
Still the best 3d fallout. I will die on this hill.
the game needs an update for the AMD Adrenaline Edition 24.1.1 and 24.2.1
Fixing f4 for newer computers increased the playerbase. They are hoping for the same result for new vegs.
I am expecting a store front to try and sell mods for NV, thats the most likely thing that will happen, and with it I fully expect chnages that brak mods so you have to use the store for them -.-
Or you could just make your own mods
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pgnot everyone has the free time for that, dude.
@@DeezNuggz so maybe don't complain about other people not doing something
@@SubtotalStar850-uh8pg what? In english, doc.
@@DeezNuggz if you complainy about mod making then you're mad people don't have free time
Of course it is... just as I installed TTW...
As long as you don’t launch through steam and don’t have auto updates on steam for fallout 3 or new vegas and also only update when opening steam
Bro same. Spent 2 weeks after work testing and setting up.
wait this wasn't posted on april 1st...
In another episode of "Let's break every single mod created in the last fifteen years", watch as Bethesda annihilates the entire modding scene yet again to add a lame MTX shop and no meaningful content. Seriously, at some point you gotta leave it to the community to take care of the old titles. This especially sucks since mods work in clusters and have tons of dependencies, meaning if a single modder has quit the modding scene or just doesn't feel like updating his ten year old mods, the entire modding scene can essentially be destroyed for months.
My honest reaction to this information after installing all 200 of my mods with Viva New Vegas:
It would be nice if it was them adding the cut legion content. But I don't have too high of hopes.
they should add a mitten squad tribute while they're poking around in the code
Man, I miss that bloke..
This makes me glad I have the gog version of new vegas with no auto updates.
Watching this on April 1st and not realizing the date made me feel like an idiot
oh well, we still have the seven seas, if we want to play the version untouched (in no, no places) by Todd, The Game Destroyer, Howard
Updates are game destroyers now? Yeah, I doubt Mods will survive this, but that is a very, VERY stupid mindset.
@@TurtleShroom3 No it isn't.
@@TurtleShroom3 How is that a stupid mindset? THOUSANDS of mods will be broken from this update and most of those will never be updated to work ever again as they are many years old. As a person with over 40 active mods in my mod-list I would rather not have to uninstall/reinstall the very few mods that are updated or be forced to play the vanilla game.
I sure am glad I have the files and manifests backed up.
I'd say they're testing the waters to see if they can sell us another copy of old Fallout games like they did with Skyrim.
Now introducing creation club for your favorite classics.
Meanwhile on ps5 we are punished with vanilla versions without dlc
New update is the retcon destroying the NCR 💀
Shady Sands being nuked in 2277, despite the NCR occupation of New Vegas?
Yeah... what an "update" that was.
It wasn't a retcon please think for a moment and follow the timeline
Is Bethesda adding more loading screens?
idk, starfield didnt have much loading screens if any when I played. Maybe, just maybe, play on an SSD like what the recommended specs say.
16 times the loading screens! Eventually all of their games will be loading screen simulators.
I hope they fix the memory leak on the vanilla game
Mods have fixed that ages ago, Bethesda always fixes nothing and breaks everything
Better be a 64 Bit update, Star wars Empire at War got a 64 Bit update last year after 17 years of it being 32 Bit
personally, i think they are adding series easter eggs to the old games in order to resale to new players and attempting to canonize the live series into the old lore
that seems a little bit paranoid, but then again the updates don't seem to be mod friendly
They didn’t update it
When your company is creatively bankrupt, do a remake.
They are really committed om breaking the legs of moding comunity hum? bad move if that is the case.
ps: what mod is the one "overhaling underutilized locations of new vegas"?
dude sweet i LITEERALLY just downloaded fallout series and skyrim because growing up i never got to play them so this gives me even more reason to play
Todd’s gonna go for a script extender breaker hat trick.
It does make some sense in updating the rating for a bundle offer as here in uk its still has the old classification board rating ie bbfc ratings not the pegi rating , we still use the pegi rating even when we are not politically in eu anymore . still makes very little difference because it rated at 18 , possibly to stream line the service
Ffs stop messing with older games bethesda! We hate the Skyrim mod marketplace
It always surprises me that they haven't allowed mods for Fallout 3 and New Vegas on consoles, that would be better than an update in a lot of ways
Its because the last consoles they were on were the PS3 and 360, they probably havent been updated for years since the release of the PS4 & XB1
@@evilchild1851 I'm currently playing both NV and FO3 on my Series X, complete with 60fps updates. They play flawlessly. That being said, i'd love it if Bethesda would do to them what they did with Skyrim.
Can confirm fnv and fallout 3 on ps3 dont seem to get updates
New Vegas is the one game that could more easily tie in with a west coast focused TV show. But watch them remove the NCR from the game so it more closely matches the TV show.
God I hope that if they do update New Vegas that they make it more compatible with modern GPU drivers. I am still trying to get New Vegas to run on my new GPU and I would be so happy to see a change.
I just want them to fix the zero kilobits bug I got even on my PS5 for fallout 4
Ib4 it's a pronounce option on character creation.
Yeesh.
Hopefully new vegas is 64bit like skyrim se did over oldrim.On pc gotta download 4gb mod but if they make it 64bit won't need it and its just better.
GOG version comes with it so it's practically moot aside from a technicality.
I just hope they don’t actualt start changing anything in terms of the actual content as I’m very scared of them possibly damaging the integrity of it in terms of what the devs who made it intended
Bethesda breaking all the old mods so you'll pay for the new ones
bethesda on his way to ruin 23 years of mod to a update of 2 mb
It's literally to remove the good music they don't have the rights to anymore every old game has this update
Don't get excited
Nah they are smart and they know the TV show is going to bring millions back and new people alike to fallout new Vegas first then 3 and 4. They’re just making them more playable on modern systems is all. Fallout 4 gets its update the 25th apparently. Playing New Vegas until then
I would almost guarantee this is nothing. Youve made several videos about the old Fallout beta branches a few times now.l with nothing to show for it. But hey go off I guess.
2:03 that hast to be a modded gun right? If not what is it called and where can i get it??
Yes no way that is Vanilla.
Dont remember the name but iirc its the special weapon you build as part of the Crusaders quest in the Frontier. I am a bit nervous now with any update beth is planning - If they do a 64 bit update it likely would be a separate version to "sell" again like they did with skyrim. I just hope they don't break New Vegas like they did FO3 and try to add a mod store to that old game
Thought so. I've played this game religiously and have combed through every inch of every Map/DLC so I kinda got my hopes up in the thought I might have missed something(as you can tell I'm looking for any reason to start up my 2000th campaign) @@williambrown8686 Edit: eh I'll start another campaign just for the fun of it. Time to celebrate my return to the Mojave desert i wonder what RP I'll do this time around before I lose all sense of character and fall back into my old whimsical ways.
that gun is from some sort of ''lizard footjob slave kink mod'', don't search it.
What is most likely the case is that they fix the "censored" versions of F:NV as the Ultimate Edition is also Uncut in germany, etc. which leads to many mod issues
Thank God I still have a physical copy of the Ultimate Edition. Hard Copy, FTW!
I’m a little sad they might straight up patch glitches that we thought were never going to be addressed.
Tangential! I started playing Fallout 3 last night for the first time! Stepping out from the vault and looking at the world beyond has to be one of the best sights I’ve ever seen this year in gaming!
"Fallout III" butchers the lore, people have told me. Namely, the stupidity of no trees or civilizations growing anywhere in eons, Megaton's pre-cult residents building a city in a crater, and the entire * SPOILER ALERT *
* SPOILER BELOW *
The entire quest where you go to get a Garden of Eden Creation Kit that works perfectly, AND THEY USE IT SOLELY AS A WATER FILTER.
THIS IS IN A WORLD WHERE ROBOTS DRAW CLEAN WATER FROM THE AIR, AND THOSE ROBOTS STILL EXIST. YOU CAN GET ONE.
NO GOD NO!!!! Aside from breaking our mods this is probably a stealth edit to bring the game into ESG compliance that would explain the Pegi rating. God damned Children of Woktom cult members at it again.
Jesus what's your problem, touch grass
Ps5 remaster?
I am assuming that due to the Fallout show coming out, Bethesda is re-packaging the older games for new people getting into the series.
New Vegas would be good if they updated it on console to have some mod support maybe. Other than that it probably doesnt need an update
Great they can ruin all the fallout games not just fallout 4
My theory is that its an updated mod sdk for vegas. They realize that fallout new vegas is their most loved story, and fallout 4 has the best modding scene, so they're probably trying to add creation club or bethesda net mods.
Amazon just announced major layoffs in the entertainment branch of the company and are reportedly VERY unhappy with the Fallout TV series. They may abandon it, i.e. cancel it and dump all episodes on streaming, in order to focus more people and resources on Rings of Power Season 2 which has finished principle filming but seems to be in creative limbo right now.
Cancelling what I have been told will be Woke garbage for even WORSE Woke garbage? Genius!
I think that's a bunch of bullshit