Hi guys. Dennis from Slagwerkkrant here. Great job on this video. A few add ons that i've seen over the years. . There have been at least a handful of 8" drums been made in 9 ply beech, but they are very, very rare. I have seen one (as in exactly 1) over the years. Original factory made. The first batch of Phonic Hitecs had the regular phonic badge. There are some non-rosewood phonic bassdrums out there with the external muffling system. I have seen a few. Sonor apparantly did this as a special order. I have come across 4 or 5 over the years. Mostly black. Sonor must have run out of small logo lugs somewhere in early 79. I had a single order factory kit that had small logo lugs on one tom, and large logo on everything else. (different times, I think no-one cared back then). Made in februari 79. Kits with small logo lugs and large logo badges and wingscrews are actually quite common.
Wow! Thanks a lot for the info! Yes, we also heared from some Sonor dealers that they had single 9ply 8 or 6" toms in hand at some point, but even more rare as the birch or 6ply beech ones. I will definately incorperate the information from your comment in Part 2 of the video 😁👍
Thanks a lot for the content! Well we made two videos on the Performer and Signature. We don't go as deeply into detail as we do here, but already you should get alot of information on them, if you haven't watched it already: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html
Great vid!!! So much fun to hear the history at to dive into one's own collection and see production dates, hardware and finish specs. Thanks guys ... and now for the beer'ing edges 😆
Thank you for the video. I am the owner of a very special Phonic Rosewood drumset with 22/12/13/16. I bought it from a guy who got this set as a present from Karl Heinz Menzel in 1978. I saw the photo and newspaper article including date with him and Menzel. So the story is true. I am pretty sure that this drumset is a prototype. There are no stamps inside the shell and there are several features which came with later series. There is the newer badge, the squared tom mount brackets. Also the signature bass drum muffling is built in. The toms and the floor tom has inside muffleling also on the reso heads.
Thanks a lot for the comment! Actually we did make two videos on the signature series before: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html ruclips.net/video/tV6PJAvQQyA/видео.html .... but I think a video on special endorser kits of Sonor including Nicko Mcbrains kits would be a very cool idea 😁
Outstanding video🔥! I have a Phonic kit, re covered with your purple Sonor wrap. The 10 and 12 toms are converted centennial concert toms and I confirm that the 10” shell is different - thinner and it kind of looks like a solid single ply shell.
Looking foreword to this! I have 8 Sonor kits, including 3 Phonics, one being my holy-grail rosewood. Thank ya for this vid, you guys! Merry Christmas!!! Shout out to Chris Giannakopoulos, the KING!
Amazing video guys! Very interesting to learn that my Phonic Plus 8x8" is actually birch- now I know who to contact when I'm ready to build a matching 6x8"!
Total genial 🙌 danke fuer euren 'Phonic' Enthusiasmus ❤🙏 und ich hab mal in nem Trommelforum gelesen das man nach der Apokalypse mit absoluter Sicherheit noch Phonic Hardware finden wird 🤣
Hi Colin! Interesting video! Well, I´m so glad I got rid of all these heavy 80´s stuff..... really glad 😂only thing I will regret until the end is selling the brilliant Phonic HiHat Pedal, the best thing I ever had! Simple construction, but though heavy, easy action and precise like a swiss watch! Thanx for the video! Merry Xmas to you and your family, in loving memory of Gerd 😇
Excellent video, I have a couple of Phonic tom toms in the garage. I knew they were made sometime in the mid 80s, always wanted to complete the set but never got around to. They are like canons, great sound.
Great mystery solved! My 8 inch rosewood in and out is the same thickness as my Lite 10 inch tom. I think it’s also birch. Much thinner than the tom at 15.02 in the video!
It would be very exciting to see an example of Ahorn or Nussbaum Phonics... or Memphis Red/Green Panthers... or any of the Oak Performer Plus... maybe they are out there somewhere!
So I just watched this fantastic video! Gonna play it again a couple more times.❤️ It did raise a question for me, however, and that is a curiosity about no mention anywhere, including the catalogs, of RED acrylic. I know of 2 sets of them, one of which I almost bought (22, 12, 13, 16) here in the States. The other was a large centennial badge (22, 22, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18) seen on a German (I believe) TV show. In one episode, they were being played by Phil Taylor (minus one rack tom) with Motörhead and another episode where the complete kit was being played by the drummer in a South African all-girl band called Clout.
Wow thanks a lot for the nice comment! In the catalogues only the clear, blue and smoky were depicted in the first one, and then in the later catalogues only smoky was left. But I have seen quite a few Champion kits with red acrylic shells before. I guess on request Sonor build Phonic hardware on these red acrylic shells aswell, or maybe they did offer the red ones for the US market... I am not completely sure but I learned there are always exceptions from the rule when it comes to vintage sonor 😁
There was a red acryllic available. German TV show Rockpalast had a set of red Phonics available as their 'house kit'. It can be seen in many video's from the early 80's. Like this one with Motorhead. ruclips.net/video/utLgqCiwwZ8/видео.html
Thanks a lot for the comment! we did cover a bit of the performer series in this video: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html But we might actually do a more detailled one looking at the catalogues like we did here in the future
yes, the "drummers drum" slogan is also used on other 80s catalogues. Also the 84 one that we mention in the video had "drummers drum" on it and a picture of a mahogani drum
I was playing my Tama Rockstar kit at a gig about 25 years ago. Some random dude in the audience kept telling me how awesome my Sonor kit was. I kept telling "him it's a Tama" I think Tama was trying to copy Phonics back then. (the kit was a 1989 model )
Does St drums offer slotted bass drum tension rods like the ones used on the bottom of the batter side on Signature bass drums ? I wanted to order some for my Phonic and Sonor Lite drums. Thanks.
Yes, it should be these ones stdrums.com/en/p/sonor51900601-130mm but we also have a 120mm version (Maybe you can measure the length of the screw without the head to know which one you want)
@stdrumsgmbhThanks . I could probably order a set of both. All of my bass drums are 24" diameter. 17 " depth for the Lite,18" depth for the Phonic and Signature. I would also need to know if I could get the option for currency exchange options, as I live in the U.S. As well as shipping options.
@@2002rude Could you please contact us via the contact form on the bottom of our page: stdrums.com/en Then we can let you know all the details about shipping and payment
I had an XK-9409 “Sound Machine” set at the end of the seventies and was the drummer in a German rock band. The band broke up in the course of the eighties. From then on, I had my Sonor Phonic in my living room. But I was young and needed money. So I sold it. That still makes me sad sometimes and I regret it.
Hi guys. Dennis from Slagwerkkrant here. Great job on this video. A few add ons that i've seen over the years. . There have been at least a handful of 8" drums been made in 9 ply beech, but they are very, very rare. I have seen one (as in exactly 1) over the years. Original factory made. The first batch of Phonic Hitecs had the regular phonic badge. There are some non-rosewood phonic bassdrums out there with the external muffling system. I have seen a few. Sonor apparantly did this as a special order. I have come across 4 or 5 over the years. Mostly black. Sonor must have run out of small logo lugs somewhere in early 79. I had a single order factory kit that had small logo lugs on one tom, and large logo on everything else. (different times, I think no-one cared back then). Made in februari 79. Kits with small logo lugs and large logo badges and wingscrews are actually quite common.
Wow! Thanks a lot for the info! Yes, we also heared from some Sonor dealers that they had single 9ply 8 or 6" toms in hand at some point, but even more rare as the birch or 6ply beech ones. I will definately incorperate the information from your comment in Part 2 of the video 😁👍
Please make a video this detailed about Performer series. Love it. Thanks for the content.
Thanks a lot for the content! Well we made two videos on the Performer and Signature. We don't go as deeply into detail as we do here, but already you should get alot of information on them, if you haven't watched it already: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html
Great vid!!! So much fun to hear the history at to dive into one's own collection and see production dates, hardware and finish specs. Thanks guys ... and now for the beer'ing edges 😆
🍻🍻🍻
Thank you for the video. I am the owner of a very special Phonic Rosewood drumset with 22/12/13/16. I bought it from a guy who got this set as a present from Karl Heinz Menzel in 1978. I saw the photo and newspaper article including date with him and Menzel. So the story is true. I am pretty sure that this drumset is a prototype. There are no stamps inside the shell and there are several features which came with later series. There is the newer badge, the squared tom mount brackets. Also the signature bass drum muffling is built in. The toms and the floor tom has inside muffleling also on the reso heads.
Wow! Sounds awesome! Could you maybe send us some pictures of the kit to use in part 2 of this video?
@ I will mail you some photos
keep it coming! great material!
Awesome!
next signature Series&Nicko Mcbrain Sonor Kit video😊
Thanks a lot for the comment! Actually we did make two videos on the signature series before: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/tV6PJAvQQyA/видео.html .... but I think a video on special endorser kits of Sonor including Nicko Mcbrains kits would be a very cool idea 😁
Great video helped me with my centennial kit
Outstanding video🔥! I have a Phonic kit, re covered with your purple Sonor wrap. The 10 and 12 toms are converted centennial concert toms and I confirm that the 10” shell is different - thinner and it kind of looks like a solid single ply shell.
Looking foreword to this!
I have 8 Sonor kits, including 3 Phonics, one being my holy-grail rosewood.
Thank ya for this vid, you guys!
Merry Christmas!!!
Shout out to Chris Giannakopoulos, the KING!
Sounds like an awesome collection! Thanks a lot for the comment 😁
Amazing video guys! Very interesting to learn that my Phonic Plus 8x8" is actually birch- now I know who to contact when I'm ready to build a matching 6x8"!
Total genial 🙌 danke fuer euren 'Phonic' Enthusiasmus ❤🙏 und ich hab mal in nem Trommelforum gelesen das man nach der Apokalypse mit absoluter Sicherheit noch Phonic Hardware finden wird 🤣
stimmt 🤣 man sollte das diesen Preppern empfehlen, Phonic Stative als Stützen für die Bunker zu nehmen
@stdrumsgmbh 🤣🤣🤣🙌
Hi Colin! Interesting video! Well, I´m so glad I got rid of all these heavy 80´s stuff..... really glad 😂only thing I will regret until the end is selling the brilliant Phonic HiHat Pedal, the best thing I ever had! Simple construction, but though heavy, easy action and precise like a swiss watch! Thanx for the video! Merry Xmas to you and your family, in loving memory of Gerd 😇
Excellent video, I have a couple of Phonic tom toms in the garage. I knew they were made sometime in the mid 80s, always wanted to complete the set but never got around to. They are like canons, great sound.
Awesome video!
Great mystery solved! My 8 inch rosewood in and out is the same thickness as my Lite 10 inch tom. I think it’s also birch. Much thinner than the tom at 15.02 in the video!
It would be very exciting to see an example of Ahorn or Nussbaum Phonics... or Memphis Red/Green Panthers... or any of the Oak Performer Plus... maybe they are out there somewhere!
Awesome!
So I just watched this fantastic video!
Gonna play it again a couple more times.❤️
It did raise a question for me, however, and that is a curiosity about no mention anywhere, including the catalogs, of RED acrylic.
I know of 2 sets of them, one of which I almost bought (22, 12, 13, 16) here in the States.
The other was a large centennial badge (22, 22, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18) seen on a German (I believe) TV show. In one episode, they were being played by Phil Taylor (minus one rack tom) with Motörhead and another episode where the complete kit was being played by the drummer in a South African all-girl band called Clout.
Wow thanks a lot for the nice comment! In the catalogues only the clear, blue and smoky were depicted in the first one, and then in the later catalogues only smoky was left. But I have seen quite a few Champion kits with red acrylic shells before. I guess on request Sonor build Phonic hardware on these red acrylic shells aswell, or maybe they did offer the red ones for the US market... I am not completely sure but I learned there are always exceptions from the rule when it comes to vintage sonor 😁
@stdrumsgmbh yessir, the “custom” stuff could probably make up its own video. lol
Thank you so much again for this one that you just posted.
There was a red acryllic available. German TV show Rockpalast had a set of red Phonics available as their 'house kit'. It can be seen in many video's from the early 80's. Like this one with Motorhead. ruclips.net/video/utLgqCiwwZ8/видео.html
Please do a Sonorlite video!
would love this!
Can you do a video of the performer series?...even if its short.
Thanks a lot for the comment! we did cover a bit of the performer series in this video: ruclips.net/video/Fgcx5sbjVRc/видео.html
But we might actually do a more detailled one looking at the catalogues like we did here in the future
Super.
👍👍👍
Ich mochte den "Zwinkersmiley"
😉
I definitely got my first The drummer's drum catalog in 1982. But I remember that there were two slightly different versions...
yes, the "drummers drum" slogan is also used on other 80s catalogues. Also the 84 one that we mention in the video had "drummers drum" on it and a picture of a mahogani drum
I was playing my Tama Rockstar kit at a gig about 25 years ago. Some random dude in the audience kept telling me how awesome my Sonor kit was. I kept telling "him it's a Tama"
I think Tama was trying to copy Phonics back then. (the kit was a 1989 model )
yeah I think the lugs look very similar, but the overall quality of these Tamas is also pretty good!
Does St drums offer slotted bass drum tension rods like the ones used on the bottom of the batter side on Signature bass drums ? I wanted to order some for my Phonic and Sonor Lite drums. Thanks.
Yes, it should be these ones stdrums.com/en/p/sonor51900601-130mm but we also have a 120mm version (Maybe you can measure the length of the screw without the head to know which one you want)
@stdrumsgmbhThanks . I could probably order a set of both. All of my bass drums are 24" diameter. 17 " depth for the Lite,18" depth for the Phonic and Signature. I would also need to know if I could get the option for currency exchange options, as I live in the U.S. As well as shipping options.
@@2002rude Could you please contact us via the contact form on the bottom of our page: stdrums.com/en Then we can let you know all the details about shipping and payment
I didn't realize how much ambiguity there was among the different models.
I had an XK-9409 “Sound Machine” set at the end of the seventies and was the drummer in a German rock band. The band broke up in the course of the eighties. From then on, I had my Sonor Phonic in my living room. But I was young and needed money. So I sold it. That still makes me sad sometimes and I regret it.