LET THE MARKUPS BEGIN! Toyota Dealers already seeking INSANE addendums on 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser…
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- Опубликовано: 1 июл 2024
- In this video I share the discussion I had with my local Toyota Dealer… they are already slapping $10K markups on the 2024 Land Cruiser. Let me be clear, they are already trying to take advantage of people on inventory they don’t even have yet. Smh…
Greedy dealership tactics need to stop. With high interest rates and supply back to normal, they need to quit the games. I’m personally fed up with this, something has got to give. Toyota needs to hold their dealers accountable and ensure they are conducting fair business practices. I shouldn’t have to call 40 dealers and fly to North Dakota to buy my new 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser. MSRP should be their cap. Am I wrong to think this?
Let me know your thoughts. Let me know if you’ve worked with an honest dealer during the last few years, give them a shoutout in the comments!
Thanks for watching as always.
-Stay Untamed…
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I’m honestly grateful for your perspective and brave honest feedback. You’ve helped change the way we do business. Thank you, Untamed!
Thanks for being so receptive to this feedback, Kevin! 🙌
Tbh they should just phase out dealers and do manufacture direct.
If I can get a credit card with a $50K limit over the internet and a pre-approval for a house, I don't get why I can't buy a car online through Toyota.
I agree.
I mean the dealers will still make money when you come for service.
Oil change: $500 😮
Dealerships arent going to go away...them having 5 acres of new car inventory is. You will buy directly from Toyota, they in turn will deliver it to your closest Toyota "dealership" where you pick it up and get introduced to your "service advisor". Service dept is how they stay in business
@@wamdaddy yup dealership will never go away. But if we are just looking for msrp I rather be able to just buy direct and have them do the hand over.
@@wamdaddy Toyota won’t be participating in direct sales.
Shame there isn't a viable direct to consumer option. Buying a car from a dealership might be the worst costumer experience there is.
Toyota is working on it lol.
Then next time you want milk don’t go to store buy your own cow! 😎
@@BMLR1970 That's a really good apples to apples comparison. What's a caw?
@@Boblawlaw26 sorry man I meant cow wrong spell but I fixed it I was little drunk 😎
There is, it is called moving out of the USA.
This is exactly why I won’t get myself excited about any of Toyotas new offerings. The dealers have completely ruined the experience and I’m not playing their games. I truly hope they go under.
This ruined my excitement. I was big on the Ford Broncos. Dealerships want $12K on top of MSRP. I may just keep my current car for a couple more years
Exactly why I still drive my 2003 Tacoma
$100k sequoia TRD PRO /capstone in the San Jose / sfo Bay Area
@@youtubecarspottersguide16 figures for a Toyota? Just save up for a Porsche at that point😂
You’re fault for paying markups!
We all need to stand together and refuse to pay dealer markups, just walk out and find a dealer selling at msrp, it won't be easy because some people just have to have that special vehicle at what ever the cost
first kid 'oh look at me "
Write a letter to Toyota HQ. And the dealer/issues you’re having
@@gomezbr1 good ideal the large dealer groups should make deals as they sell in volume 2 ,we don't know what invoice is? hold backs and manufacture to dealer incentives so more $ in the dealers pocket
@@youtubecarspottersguide1 absolutely. i was originally going to buy the new sequoia but it was too big of a vehicle for my families needs. my local dealer was selling at MSRP but had to wait over a year. contacted a different toyota dealer 2hrs away and said $10k increase for customers not living in the zip code. made no sense to me. glad we waited since we're now in the market for the land cruiser....hoping to pay no more than MSRP.
@@gomezbr1 think you will like it, new tacoma , Lexus GX550 .the grand highlander , crown and the new Prius Toyota is on. roll , commercial s "who could ask for anything more. Toyota I love what you do for me love my Toyota oh what a . feeing to drive ..... todays toyota LOL
You should name the dealership. You and everyone should boycott any dealership who charges over MRSP. Let these dealerships know you will never buy a vehicle from them and you will tell all of your friends and family to do the same. Make it disadvantageous for any dealership to treat customers this way. They should be lucky to have your business. These greedy dealerships only think of the here and now and not customer satisfaction or their long term reputation.
Ken Garff Toyota, Cheyenne WY
Angela Kraus Ford, Alpharetta GA. Dealer added markups on a Bronco Raptor reservation only after the vehicle was delivered. Basically stole my reservation, claimed they had the right to refuse selling the vehicle. Dealer cared more about making more money with other customer than honoring the agreement. Didnt even try to fix the issue or offer a deal in other product. I step out and didnt look back, rather use my time helping build the reputation they truly deserve.
@@henrygraterol that’s a shame… greed is a powerful thing. Some dealers are just sharks out for blood unfortunately. Sorry you had to go through that. =\
Penske Toyota in Downey , CA. Does Mark ups.
Go to Longo Toyota in El Monte, CA.
@@UntamedMotorsdo you remember the name of the salesman you had a bad experience with?
If everyone would refuse any dealer markup they won’t be able to mark them up. It should be illegal.
The problem is that people will pay the mark up. We all need to refuse to pay markups.
Amen to that 🙏🏼
Unfortunately we live in a “gotta have it first.. gotta have it now” society
California Elk Grove Toyota bought a 2023 Toyota 4Runner TRD PRO at MSRP color Solar Octane
Toyota should sell through their website and have a carvana style delivery to your house lol. That will honestly shake the industry up so much
Bought my 2022 lime rush trd pro for msrp ($53k) back in february of 2022 from Firelands Toyota in Sandusky, Ohio. Great to deal with after dealing with $10K to $15K mark up attempts from other dealerships.
That's great to hear, congrats! Good dealers still exist. =]
Despite being a Toyota enthusiast, the excessive dealer markups are the main reason why I am unlikely to own another Toyota unless they start selling directly to consumers. I believe this behavior epitomizes greed, and it saddens me that they persist in doing so. I reside in California, and it appears that this practice is widespread here, with markups ranging from $7,500 to $10,000 being quite common
Happens to every brand not just Toyota
you should see the crazy markups with Ford, especially with its trucks and broncos
I would have laughed and hung up
Agreed.
I live in northern Wisconsin and I work with a doc who bought a Subaru Outback for 9K over MSRP and told me he got "a deal". It is happening everywhere.
*"whatever the market will bear"* ... if people take crap, _they'll keep getting fed more crap_
I really believe they should just convert all dealership locations to mechanic shops for warranty work/ repairs and oil changes, and maybe have one of each model on the lot for test drives. Then switch to direct to consumer from online like Tesla. I’m not a Tesla fan, and obviously that model isn’t perfect, but at this point it’s way too out of control with dealer greed. And they have no shortage of BS excuses for why they do it.
Never gonna work because you can't just send it back like a pair of shoes when they send you a vehicle with stuff you didn't order...making it way more difficult to return...a complete headache...who wants a 4cl turbo charged landcruiser anyway..let the problems begin!
IF THIS HAPPENS TO ANY OF YOU OUT THERE CONTACT TOYOTA DIRECTLY. ANY DEALER DOING THIS NEEDS TO LOSE THEIR FRANCHISE. IT IS PRICE GOUGING.
Not sure how things work in the states. I heard that in Canada, Toyota/Lexus will threatened to sever ties with dealerships for repeatedly mistreating customers. I had an incident with a Lexus dealership that I could not resolve and almost gave up. My last hope was to reach out to Toyota Canada to ask for advice. They didn’t say much to me, but to my surprise the dealership reached out to me the next and offered to resolve things on my terms. So my experience along with anecdotes from other people makes me think that Toyota actually cares about dealership issues and brand image, and we should bring our complaints with dealerships straight to Toyota. See if that works.
If only Honda can do such thing, but nope.
Respect you for not letting yourself. The audacity these dealerships have
It's beyond sad we're "excited" over the fact we can buy a Toyota at MSRP. Toyota really needs to do something about these absurd dealer markups. Why they allow they to do this is beyond me as it ultimately taints the brand.
People, do not forget to do one thing: leave a one-star comment on the dealer's google and yelp review page if they charge markups. let others see. That's your rights. I always left reviews for dealers on matter good or bad experiences I got to help others.
I like what you are doing Untamed.Shedding some sunlight on on these bad and good actors (dealerships)been lurking for awhile with this move youa gained a new Sub,from one Vet to another Thankyou.
Good on you for this! Until the markups stop I won’t be buying a new vehicle. Luckily my 5th gen isn’t even broken in yet w/ 65k on it
Thanks brother. Haha yeah you got another 250K no problem 😉
That’s happened to me too first the salesman said to me we probably going to get 500$ as a deposit but then he went and talked to his supervisor to ask him about the new vehicle details and when he came back he said I’m sorry but my supervisor told that due to rarity of the vehicle so we need to hold 5 to 10 k$ as deposit and we have to add 15k mark up and then I said this is crazy just insane and I didn’t even discuss the issue with him any farther and left and the reason I’m telling my story is for Toyota company to take note that I felt so sad after that happened to me because I was so excited and happy that I’m the near future I’m getting a land cruiser but these guys kill the dream and pull the smile out of our hearts and I hope Toyota will be very strong on demanding MSRP forced on dealer not to mark them up especially for a legendary vehicle like the Land Cruiser!!
Crown Toyota in Lawrence, KS. MSRP every time, they want to move vehicles in order to be a preferred dealer for Toyota.
this is my dream vehicle oddly enough now that i've seen it. But these markups are gonna make it remain a dream.
Thanks for making this video! It’s a shame that so many car dealerships just conduct themselves like crooks. They do not give a shit about people. Even if you avoid markup, be careful not to pay for dealer add ons, that can quickly add up to a few thousand dollars. Even more sad, that Toyota corporate also does not care about this practice, whatsoever. The more people speak up about this, the better. Here in the LA area, dealers to avoid for sure: Toyota North Hollywood, and Toyota Pasadena
You are spot on! I very much appreciate your transparency & honesty. Dealers only care about making the most money.
I am glad that you took the time to make first hand experience video which is very useful. This kind of situation are hurting brend the most by killing enthusiasm and excitement for their product! Car dealers are not punished for this behaviour but for instance expensive watch brands such as Rolex would strip franchise off their dealers.
Corporate office at Toyota should know that this is not right.
In central Ohio I have dealt with McDaniel Toyota and Byers Toyota since the pandemic started. Neither charge more than MSRP and no goofy required paint protection, poly shield, blah blah blah….I highly recommend them.
Immediately got my name on the list at Mark Miller Toyota. MSRP and no added “products”. Best dealer in Utah BY FAR.
I’ll add to it. Bud Clary Toyota in central Washington! MSRP and no added garbage either. Got my name down for the Tacoma Trailhunter
Get ready for a 1yr Waite 😂
@@joseperezpaz9986 Waite? Wait? Weight? What are you after?
@@KJT1220 you off your meds champ?
Longo in el Monte caif
I applaud you for all your videos. Great work, and thank you for keeping us in know.
It’s ridiculous out there
My wife and I love to buy cars and trucks from distant places -we make a mini vacation out of it-some dealers in past bought our plane tickets and had their runner pick us up at airport-saved 1000’s-got the one we wanted-we buy at best price and sell or trade At private party pricing which is between wholesale and retail-usually keep vehicles less 3 years which means really no dealer service beyond oil changes-always worked out
As long as you have people that are willing to pay any price, this will continue. I can't believe how they can charge over MSRP and essentially name their price with impunity. Manufacturers are also responsible for this situation given how little inventory they release to keep a delicate balance in favor of demand so it outpaces the supply.
Sad! Thanks for sharing. Dealers are still marking up!
Good for you in showing that sales rep what’s up.
As for Toyota dealerships selling for MSRP, that depends on the area of the country. Here in northern Virginia you will not find any dealerships selling for MSRP.
Another reason I’m buying American and not Toyota anymore. I was able to get a 2024 Suburban and 2024 Escalade ESV UNDER MSRP!
Meanwhile Toyota dealerships are marking up their Sequoias $20,000 plus. No thanks. Goodbye Toyota.
Yeah it’s a shame Toyota has allowed these ugly practices to continue… I don’t blame you for jumping ship. Congrats!
Great review! truly you have exposed the greedy dealerships! Thanks for creating awareness!!
I would have done the same. The greed now a days has gotten out of hand.
Also my guess is you dealt with Ken Garff in Cheyenne. Place is so slimy I can feel it from SLC.
im in so calif and can smell the scum dealers in San Jose and san Francisco. $100k Sequoia TRD PRO AND CAPSTONES these prices show up on the Toyota web sites vech locaters could just post call dealer
I usually just let the sales person know what price I’m willing to pay, currently that’s MSRP for hard to get vehicles. I have a different view on mark-ups. While I don’t like them (and won’t pay them), I don’t blame the dealerships for trying to get a higher price. Lots of people would just game the system, just look at cars and bids, they have 3 rivians a week, all sold over MSRP with under 500 miles.
Marysville Toyota in WA state sells at MSRP. Bought a 21 Tacoma TRD Off Road and just recently traded up to a 23 Tundra Platinum. Great dealership!
I’ve only heard wonderful things about them, thank you for sharing! 🙏🏼 Good honest dealers still exist. =]
Thank for the info and your honesty.
Liked the message behind this video. Thanks for the FYI!! 😎👍🏼
I’ve never worked at a dealership, but I did order a 2021 4Runner TRD Pro from Pauly Toyota (IL.), during the plandemic, and they were great. I paid MSRP for mine. I would buy from them again. I’ve called other dealerships in the Chicagoland area recently, and they’re tacking on ceramic coatings or other things that the customer doesn’t have a choice on. That’s not right, imo.
Thanks for sharing
Just bought my 2023 TRD ORP $4600 UNDER MSRP! Del Toyota in PA, even as an NYC resident purchasing from them 🎉
Great points! I’m bracing for the markup if we decide on LC…still bummed about tow rating not being a bit higher though. We bought a 2020 4Runner from local dealer (Bills Toyota) in Ontario, Canada and my wife’s work colleague bought same year and trim and Buffalo, NY dealer for a few thousand more and that was without doing currency exchange. We don’t often buy new so didn’t even clue in to dealer markup being a thing but now understand why someone just a few km’s across the border ended up paying way more- they found a greedy dealer.
Great video, as always. Thanks for sharing. Tony Divino toyota in Ogden UT was selling everything right at msrp. My family has bought 2 tacomas from them. Highly recommend them.
I hope Toyota can step in and address these markups at the dealer level but i know that may be wishful thinking.
It's going to be so hard for them to quit on the markup strategy, saying no to extra cash, mmm I haven't seen that happened.
I wish my company would rise my salary as fast as the mark ups in everting else, specially in the house and car market.
I bought a Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium at a dealer in rural Pennsylvania in January. Got the impression that there was much less demand in that area. Big metro areas seem to also have big markups.
The only way to stop this nonsense is to stop paying the markup. Everyone should just refuse to buy anything that’s marked up and search till you find a dealer who doesn’t markup their vehicles and buy from them.
Thank you for the information.
That is disgusting what they are doing.
They should beg us to buy ….
great video with facts. I just drove a land cruiser 1958 today and the sucker was marked up to 79k. couldnt believe it so i took a picture if anyone needs proof. 20k mark up describedd by the sticker. Im in northwest florida too, i was blown away.
please report that sales person and let Toyota investor relation. Thank for the heads up. We appreciate all you do. Thanks again.
I so wish we could by direct from manufacture. It’s tooo bad the folks in Washington won’t allow that to happen.
Addendums: “we added oem rain guards, that will be additional $1199”
We also applied ultrahyperspace ceramic underbody coating for $4999 and nitrogen pro plus ultra air for $599
@@grglyzen “We took the liberty to upgrade the tires to an All-Terrain , for an additional boost of performance for just another 1699” , “You are definitely getting the best bang for your buck”.
Thanks for this video
Great job Sir!
Good video, New Subscriber. Thank you! 🎉
The markups aren’t because of bills…it’s pure greed! Consumers need to walk away, but they won’t.
Did the same on my hybrid rav4 and there was an insane amount of additional stuff and games like its “unobtainium”. I Told them, you know what at 7% interest and additional mark-up, i’m going to keep my current toyota and get a hybrid velar. Never regretted it.
Mr.Untamed on camera! Nice change up buddy, keep learning! 100k subscribers in no time!!! :]
Excellent video❤
Hey brother love your channel. What dealership it was in Wyoming that said the mark up? Good for you for standing your ground.
I put a down payment yesterday on the Land Cruiser in TN. My dealership verbally promised to go by Toyota's suggest sales price. This particular dealership did point to a competitor in a town nearby and said they do exactly what you said here.
What part of TN are you in?
Well, there is a very simple remedy for these insane ADMs; Just don’t buy the vehicle! At least wait until prices come down. It isn’t the real Land Cruiser anyway..
I walked into a Toyota dealership in Chesapeake Va and was looking to purchase a new Tundra. When I sat down to talk price they gave me a price 20K over MSRP. My jaw dropped. I told the salesperson I have never in my life paid a market adjustment on a vehicle and it wasn't starting today. I have to also wonder because I pulled up in a 22 Escalade that they figured I had money to burn and was stupid enough to do it. Horrible, horrible people trying to take advantage of the public like that.
Was it priority toyota?
Bought a 2006 Tacoma new. I was hit by a semi in March and was a total loss. Went to two different dealers here in Metro Atlanta to look at buying a 2023 Tacoma. Both dealerships told me that the distributor in Jacksonville wanted to add packages that I didn't want and refused to let me order what I wanted. So, I'm done with Toyota
Lol
I will just buy a used one when it is time. Probably from EchoPark since they priced some stuff a bit more reasonable than other used lots. I got our 4Runner that way, $4k under comparable dealers. So I’m that case… I will wait.
If you are in the DFW area, Family Toyota in Arlington and Burleson. Both do MSRP and have been honest in my interactions with them.
Good honest dealers still exist! Thank you for sharing this insight. =]
Thanks for name dropping MacDonald, I live in Loveland and was thinking about the new taco. I will be chatting with them
How could a manufacturer allows a dealer to make more money per sold car than them?
It’s the dealers trying to line their pockets. Even at MSRP, a dealer is already making plenty. They’ve just gotten greedy.
I had a 6 yr business with a Chevy dealer. Then they played the market price game... Now I drive a ford... And I got the car 5000 miles away because local dealers play the same game
Great video! We share your sentiment.
I heard Toyota changed the way Dealerships acquire vehicles from them recently. Need to look into it.
wow what a beautiful view of the rolling hills and blue skies
Thanks man 🙏🏼
Good ole Wyoming! 🤠
Beginning of 2020 bought new Tacoma TRD from Cherokee County Toyota, Canton, Ga. got it below MSRP and it was loaded to the max. 2022 came around and bought a 4runner limited loaded for MSRP and couldn't believe it. Great staff to deal with plan on going back when new 4runner comes out.
this is with all dealerships but especially brands with trucks and off road vehicles. It’s time to just have an option to buy direct!
Not all dealership. We are all fine here in Europe. Actually we still get discounts and some free goodies here. Bullsht Americans.
I am fortunate that the dealership I've used for my Toyota products (Crown Toyota Lawrence, KS) did not participate in ADM's for the 4Runner TRD PRO I bought this year, unlike the other dealerships in my city to the west and in the Kansas City area that I checked. I went back to them after having a great experience with a Tundra I bought from them back in 2020. Very easy dealership to work with.
That is great to hear, thanks for sharing. Good honest dealers still exist. 🙌
We took our Camry to McDonald Toyota in Greeley for service. In addition to the top dollar pricing for some basic maintenance service they charged us a 17% dealership fee. They did do a great job. I looked at the stickers of various new models during our lengthy wait. ALL of the cars had dealer markups on them.
Their used inventory seemed overpriced but the new models were all at sticker when I’ve bought from them a couple times now.
I got my deposit and was lucky enough at my local dealer to be the 1st and they said they will get allotted for sure 1 1st edition and I have got it reserved when they do get it. They hope they get a couple but expect just 1 of those. I did have to agree and have it in writing that I will pay 1500 over msrp for this unit being the only specialty one they will get. If I choose to take 1st land cruiser other than the 1st edition it will be msrp. I also put another deposit at a dealer about half hr away and I am third on list for 1st addition and I will get it at msrp no Mark up but they only expect 1 maybe 2 of them being only 5000 total. But list gives us 1st choice on any land cruiser. I feel very lucky because this will be my last vehicle and being lucky to be 1st at local dealer they said I will get the one they will receive
I wanted a car so I got a dealer car that only had 700 miles on it. They cannot sell this as new this affects the interest-rate dramatically I was paying cash it only had a $1200 mark up. I walked off the lot with a brand “used” 2024 grand Highlander. In 45 min I needed a car. Now! I also got floor mats thrown in off-road formats and I paid for no extras so a lot of people say they got something for “” MSRP, but they paid for a lot of BS.
This is exactly why when they said “55,000” I said right tell that to the dealers. Why can’t toyota the company itself do something about this stuff is there something I’m missing ?
The dealers have lobbied to be allowed to do these things and have lobbied even harder to stop the manufacturer from preventing them from doing it.
Not surprised! I’m sure my local dealer will do the same thing. I thought about getting on list as well. But not 100% sure about the power plant
Yeah I’m not sold on the idea either. BUT I figured it wouldn’t hurt to get in a list and when the time came -if it ever came… I’d reassess and decide then.
@@UntamedMotors ya that’s a good plan for sure 👍
Thanks for posting this video. I'm in the market for a new Rav4 Prime. Really like the 2023 model (and may end up buying one) but have decided to wait for release of the 2024s. Like you, i want to buy one at MSRP. Don't know if I should try and get on a wait list just yet. Your thought?
Thanks for watching Gerald! It doesn’t hurt to call several dealers within your area to get on waitlists, but confirm that they are an MSRP dealer. Get them to text confirmation or email confirmation of their intent to sell at MSRP. So often, people will get on a wait list… wait several months, then when it finally comes in, the dealers slaps a 5-10K markup on it. Then the people feel added pressure to actually pay it since they’ve waited so long for it. Get on several wait lists but ensure sticker price in writing from the dealer.
@@UntamedMotors Thank you! Didn't expect a response so quickly. Appreciate you sharing your experience, and your advocacy on behalf of the consumer!
I'm a dealerships worst nightmare....the last car I bought I kept for 14 years. I now own a 2020 Toyota 4Runner...guess how long I'll keep this one.
14 years?
@@LGBFJB46 correct bought the Toyota 1 year before selling the old car.
Got to love the scummy dealers. I am sure there will be plenty to offer at msrp when you place your order.
This LC will be produced in a different plant with higher capacity so yes there will be more of them. I’ve been looking for a GR Corolla for months and the whole car buying process today makes me sick.
While dealerships sell less and make more doing this, there has to be an overall loss in the volume of sales for the company. At these markups, you could get into luxury car territory. Many of those cars don't have markups because they may be mid cycle or just don't sell well enough to pull it off. I'm surprised with that in mind, that Toyota, and others, haven't gotten a handle on this. Or maybe I'm just wrong and everything is fine for both the dealership and the dealer.
Edmark Toyota just outside Boise Idaho is charging me MSRP for one of their first allocated Grand Highlander Hybrid Limited. Highly recommend Nate as a rep. He contacted me at every single allocation and found exactly what we wanted on a dealer swap.
That’s awesome to hear, congrats man! Appreciate you sharing with the group here too. 👍
Firelands Toyota in Sandusky OH sold me a new Camry SE for Invoice. I had a Toyota employee certificate and they honored it.
These ADMs seem to be mainly a US practice. Here in UK it’s not a thing in my experience. Dealers ripping people off on the back of the Pandemic. According to @AutomotivePress the production numbers should relatively high, based on the Toyota Japan & Hino factory’s being used for production. As you say just avoid the dealers adding ADMs and good luck 👍
Yep, no F-in surprise.
I agree with you, we can’t normalize markups.
All the Murdock dealerships in Utah (Ford, Chevrolet, GMC, Cadillac, Hyundai, Genesis) refuse to charge ADM. They only charge MSRP - they consider it immoral to do otherwise.
That is great to hear, thanks for sharing with the group.
A lot of these places telling you you’re gonna get MSRP are going to pull a bait n switch when you actually show up and are ready to buy it. Just be ready for that.
Sounds like many dealerships are still under the assumption that they are in the driver's seat and customers are desperate for vehicles. Shout out to my local dealership, Vancouver Toyota, in WA state who sold me my '22 4Runner TRD Pro at MSRP during peak pandemic madness. Thanks, Untamed.
Toyota of Stanford, Connecticut, I bought my Land Cruiser in 2021 MSRP, when other dealers were asking for $115,000. Those guys were great!!
The dumbest thing about them doing these markups is that you can usually call other dealerships, get a MSRP price, FLY OUT ON A PLANE to that location and drive back with the car for less than the markup. When I look for a car, I tell EVERY dealership my buy range is 5 hours or less from my house. That means every dealership is Phoenix (where I live), Tucson, Flagstaff, Las Vegas, LA, San Diego and a few others are in play.
Just got our 2nd Toyota in the span of around three years from the same guys here in Helena MT. A Prius for 29k. I’ve never dealt with a better dealership in my life. Not even, in the good ol’ days of 2004-05.
That is great to hear, thank you for sharing this. Good dealers still exist 👌 💯
Respect ✊
I think we’re seeing the end to the shortage problems. My theory is that dealers are using this “better get it now or else you won’t get it for months” line because it’s another pressure pitch to sell cars. I picked up a Lexus iS 350 f sport recently with no markup and they actually came off sticker $3k. They want to move the vehicles. Maybe Toyota is different since more people want them. But I’m not convinced there’s still a true shortage in the sense we’ve been used to and led to believe. I looked at a platinum tundra last week. It was set to arrive this week. No markup. They wanted quite a bit more than the Lexus I got, but no markup. And lots of tundras were set to arrive.