Halo 4 - NEW Vehicle: Piloting the Mac Cannon Glitch
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- I show you a discovery of how to pilot an undiscovered vehicle in Halo 4 - The Mac Cannon. While, yes, Noble Six did pilot one of these bad boys to save the Pillar of Autumn on Reach, we haven't been able to use one of these in over 5 years (cannon wise, of course). But I guess the UNSC stopped the funding for Mac Cannons, because these things suck big time in Halo 4.
Song used: Revival - Mr. Straightface remix. Just google it, its the first soundcloud link on Google. It was for the Halo 4 remix contest
How do people FIND this crap? I mean how many people thought: "Oh, I'm going to punch this wall/ceiling for five minutes until I burst through. Hey! I can jump on the MAC cannon now!" I guess it takes one, but what possesses people to do some of this outrageous stuff?!
After playing much of campaign, sometimes its fun just to toy around and see how many cool glitches you can find. None of this stuff is usually found by accident, a lot of the time players are just searching for them.
Somebody probably found out how to go through the wall by, well, walking up and going through it. Punching the wall to delay checkpoints was discovered long ago. I assume the part with the phantom was just the person messing around since they figured out how to get on one, then another, then realized you could thrust jump to the Mac Cannon.
Shut up this is Damn cool
Caleb Brimhall I'm not saying it isn't cool, I'm just taken aback by how tenacious/bored people get on some of this stuff.
+Aagerds Halo's big on the glitching bits. Some players, first thing they do when playing, is try and find this stuff.
"I'm gonna leave you with some gameplay"
"ok cool"
*dubstep starts*
*leaves video*
Accurate
4:18 Rip headphone users
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This is a great example of how awesome Halo and it's creators are. Being able to jump in and use a weapon that was just meant to be there for show. I remember in Halo 3 you could get into the Anti-Air Wraith at the start of the mission 'The Covenant' and in Halo Reach on 'Long Night of Solace' you could drive a Seraph!
It's funny how your guy actually operates the cannon by sitting in mid air to the left of it.
I know this was 8 years ago but i think the mac cannon hitbox was reused from halo reach
I would call this a easter egg or extra fun from the developers becuase this seems to programmed to be a glitch
It's most likely the one from reach, chiefs even in the spot u would be in reach.
+slayer157536 ^^^^This
Maybe it was planned for us to control it but 343 scrapped it
Jam Jor Niaaa, they just were being lazy. It's literally the same asset from Reach with a new Texture slammed onto it!
ADE Marc Alexander Bungie did the same thing in Halo: Reach with the scarabs, they're just replastered from Halo 3.
4:03 for a second there i thought he got an achievement for this
Revival - Mr. Straightface remix. Just google it, its the first soundcloud link on Google. It was for the Halo 4 remix contest
The way the game works,the only way to make them do damage without graphical issues is give them a working UI. You can also do something similar in Reach to operate the pelican turret in "Long night of solace" when Jorge first enters the corvette
i stopped watching when he put on the dubstep in the background...
Same here that was obnoxious
+Ubersaltytwat .com yeah
me 2
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oof so did i
I love Halo 4, but imagine if it had a part where we controlled the mac cannon, it would be a great fan service for those who played reach, mainly because it had been the last Halo (excluding CEA), or instead of facing the Lich, had a Scarab at Reclaimer level, little things like that are missing and including a more like looking OG marines would have made the game perfect for me, but I still had a lot of fun with it.
Judging by where the player sits I assume the MAC in this is just the mass driver from Halo Reach, it wouldn’t be surprising judging by how much reach content is in the game files for Halo 4, I don’t know if this says anything about 343 or not
Its a copy and paste from Halo:Reach. Seating animation is exactly the same as the one you use during the last mission in Reach.
The phantom has a big chance of not spawning each attempt you jump, but I've done this three times, and It replicated each time.
I'm actually pretty certain all Halo games do run on the same engine as beforehand, but they are heavily upgraded each game.
Thank you, man
Common Sence: why didn't the UNSC not use the cannons to stop the incoming covenant? that's just weird
Everything happens so fast :(
The covenant eventually knew what the Mac Cannons were. For example, Reach had Orbital Mac Cannons that were all around the planet. The Covenant was sending troops to specifically disable the cannons so they proved to be rather useless without people to control it.
Reach used them but you spelled Knew wrong
Robloxchat123 . They did use them, I never said they did not. Just as I said, the Covenant was aware of the cannons so they were deploying troops to each cannon to disable them to allow Covenant fleets to enter Reach' atmosphere to glass it.
The point was, the Mac Cannons can only do so much before they're no longer usable thanks to Covenant forces. Plus, it usually takes 2 shots from a cannon to take down a Covenant vessel. One for shield, one to destroy ship.
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Spelled and Spelt are both correct,
one are most commonly used in England, the other in the US, but both are correct.
note: MAC in halo means Mass Acceleration Cannon not Magnetic acceleration cannon
+Tommy Holm It's Magnetic Accelerator Cannon. The MAC uses a massive electromagnet to drive a round of Tungsten through a ship.
+halofandude123Studio its wiki page says it's known as both halo.wikia.com/wiki/Magnetic_Accelerator_Cannon
Nope, it's magnetic accelerator cannon. But this case, he uses the wrong nouns, because that's a mass driver, or onager. Not a mac, either way.
How do people find these things...I swear LOL
yeah like wtf!
Jonathan Sanchez What sort of question is that?
This is by far the coolest glitch/easter egg/whatever you want to call it I've seen.
This is definitley an easter egg.
No it's not an easteregg.
+Kane Than it was unfinished
No it wasn't.
+Kane It was probably going to be used in the mission, but was cut and left for appearance.
Isn't that either.
Love that the designers put in that notification to operate the cannon
He obviously means pilot the cannons, another way of saying that would be Man the cannons.
Nothing wrong with his phrasing.
That's a good explanation. That could also explain why the cannon here is weaker. And considering neither cannons are orbital defenses, they certainly are weak against ships.
The glow makes it look like a giant rail gun.
Thanks for the vid, nice find :)
Chief just sitting in mid air next to the mac like "I aint gotta explain shit I'm Chief"
reminds me of the good old days of trying to get the banshee to follow you trough the tunnel then hijacking it at the last second as the checkpoint happens, then flying towards the bridge to get the Scarab Gun floating above a cone, then grabbing it then peeking over the edge. then the fun begins raping the living shit out of everything. ahh the good ole days of Halo 2
If you look closely you can see the player on the side of the mac cannon, this feature stayed from halo reach
Pretty sure it was 5 employees out of the entire studio.
It is an easter egg because the game was made by 343 Industries. Halo: Reach was the last version of Halo Bungie has released. There may be some code from the original Halo, but the game is a new engine made by a different company and put in something like this for fans to try out like Halo 3 in Crows Nest.
Bungie even said in a Vidoc that you can find left over code from when the engine was first used in 2001 even though the engine is fairly different nowadays. It is in fact the same one.
It is because that is the message that appers in every vehicule, "Hold X to get to the warthog" But as this is a copy from Reach, Reach had it like "Hold X to get to the Mac" but in Halo 4 the hold.... is just a retextured message and with his posision moved, and they eliminated the Mac cannon name.
Nop, you need to glitch out of the map etc.
Then it's considered a glitch, not an easter egg.
Also, the reason it actually says "Mac Cannon" is because 343 actually named it that, they probably had some scripting for it so that's why they named it anything.
That's not fair. they should've made it playable from the beginning. I know it's power and it can feel sometimes like an over kill. But this is UNSC's time to shine. They are the Big dogs in this universe now and the Covenants are not the boggy man they used to be.
But great discovery dude. Awesome.
Of yes this reminds me of long night of solace. I kept looking out that window hoping I could go out there and fight. But getting in a Mac Cannon, thats awesome
Music wise, I wasn't expecting that. I was actually expecting bass cannon haha
You both are right actually it still has the part of the basic engine from reach but modified to 343's specs which is why somethings are the same and others are different like the in game physics
they probably used the same entity as the halo reach cannon but they reskinned it to meet Halo 4's requirements, it will still have the same capabilities as the older version, thus allowing you to use it.
It probably wasn't meant to be used in game, mainly for the fact that it has the exact same animations as reach, just an updated model.
and lets not forget the Scarab Gun from Halo 2. most evilest thing in the world to try to get to but worth it
A lot of times during the making of video games like halo there are a lot of things that are created in development but then canned when it comes to the actual what is going to stay and what is going to be blocked off and unused 98% of the time what doesn't end up being used stays in the game these mac cannons during early development may have been a playable part of the campaign :)
Halo 4's using a highly modified Reach Engine. Same base engine, but lots of modifications. People have been finding a bunch of old Reach assets in the game.
Halo 4 is definitely not a "new from scratch" engine. You can literally find hundreds of assets from Reach in Halo 4. Every Halo game is off the same engine from the previous game, but heavily modified to be better and better.
People have been finding tons of things in Halo 4's code that weren't supposed to be in the game. It could be that they wanted to put us in there, but didn't end up doing it and just left it in there.
in composer when you go out of the map and go to the battle if you try getting the marine's weapons you will disarm them and they will walk only while getting shot. And underneath the platform you will find cortana there
you guys if you read the books or looked at cutscenes the actually MAC cannons are those big tubes at the ends of frigates. those mac guns would never bbe wasted on phantoms those are for punching through like 60 yards of solid metal and taking down shields. those this is basically just one big railgun. kind of like the one you can hold, but a lot bigger
Actually, it is Magnetic Accelerator Cannon or a Mass Driver. MAC guns are used by ships in ship to ship combat. Mass drivers are used for mining, but can be used for orbital defense. Same thing just different purposes.
Presumably at some point in the level there'd be a point where you'd have to get in it and defend from the Storm, just like in Reach. Then they had a rethink and decided the level didn't need it.
that checkpoint is impossible
A lot of the assets in the game are carried over from Reach, like the Mac Cannon, where you were able to use in Reach. They just never bothered disabling the player interaction since they never figured anyone would glitch the level and get to it.
Considering that it's a Magnetic Accelerator Cannon, the lack of atmosphere wouldn't affect it's effectiveness. The speed at which it's firing here, as well as the diminished size of the payload are likely the reason behind it. Canonically speaking of course.
adding to what TFHalo said, the research facility that houses the composer is not a large military compound, yes it has military personel but reach was THE best military planet and was known for this. this is reason that the covenent attacked it and also the reason why the mac cannons are better
Loving the dub step at the end said nobody
They probably were going to have a Mac cannon section but never actually put it in the game, this is probably whats left over from that.
Most likely something that was either left over from Reach or was planned to be used in the game but cut due to constraints.
The reason its weak here is because its one of the smaller crappier PDMACs, the heavy ones you see on starships are 10x as powerful, and the one in reach is a SMAC meant for accelerating cargo into space, but its still more powerful than the one shown here. A proper PDSMAC are ones near ONI and the like, those are meant for planetary defense. The one shown in halo 2 is a ODSMAC as it is mounted on an orbital platform;
This was a different engine used to create halo 4 than reach, things like that would only have been created for a reason, its probably more likely that there was going to be a sequence where you could use a mac cannon in game that got cut for some unknown reason.
I just love the animation of the spinning blue thing after the MAC has been shot
W_Zephyr_W i agree man :D
They probably prepared for you to be able to use a MAC cannon either in an earlier version or in a future DLC or game. They must have just put the same prefab instead of modeling a non functional MAC cannon just in case someone figured out how to use it. So sort of a mix between a glitch and an easter egg.
The individual MAC rounds are weaker, but they obviously have a much higher fire rate. I wouldn't call it a cut in funding, just a rapid-fire type of MAC.
Hate to break to to you, but that Cortana model was found ages ago. It's there as sort of a place holder when you put Cortana in the Console to activate the Mac Cannons.
That's really cool how they added being able to get in aii
MAGNETIC ACCELERATOR CANNON-basically a rail gun
It may not be entirely true, but we can still assume that because this cannon is so puny, and doesn't do what the Mac Cannon that we see in every Halo does. That thing shoots the equivalent of a scorpion shell, while a Mac Cannon is at least five times more potent (This cannon takes five shots to annihilate a phantom, while the Mac Cannon that we all know takes only one accurate shot to vaporize a phantom, as seen in Halo Reach)
This was a smaller more probable version of the Mac cannons not a larger one as seen on reach and the orbital defence ones.
And different sizes... The MAC gun fires a 600 ton projectile, the Mass Driver probably in the 10 to 30 ton area... And the Super MAC gun (Like the Cairo platform's...) fires a 3,000 ton slug at 40% light speed...
I think is just the asset from reach and some how the programming is in too, if you see, MC sit at the left of the weapon and if I remember in the mac cannon from reach, that's the place where the cabin is
As far as i can tell that place the level is on is in space attached onto an asteroid. Besides, that station is only to study the Composer and the Halo Installation 03 which was nearby. So theres no reason to have mass drivers for mining tbh.
It's like the wraith gun from halo 2. You had to get a banshee to a point in the game where one was not supposed to be present. If it wasn't an easter egg the guns would not be operational.
Wow one mass driver shot was able to scare away the didact but not kill a phantom
Its an Easter egg. If it were a true glitch then the Mac cannons would not have an operating function. They would simply be static parts of the level like a crate or a wall.
Because it's basically a copy and paste from the one in Halo Reach with a few notifications so they could properly put it in the game.
At first I thought this was going to be a troll video. But I was wrong. Thanks for posting :)
They did.
even the engine is a heavily modified version of the reach engine (you can tell just from the gameplay)
It's a glitch. The mac cannon is called the mac cannon because it's a shared asset and model from the Halo: Reach files. That's why it has the Halo: Reach script and animation. It uses the exact same animation that Reach uses, because Halo 4 uses a slightly modified version of Reach's engine. To be able to get to it involves a glitch in it self so no matter what it still a glitch.
He clearly said "In the next Spartan Ops season".
When that notification popped up i totally thought it was going to give an achievement along the lines of "Wait how did you even...?"
Yeah, there was a "hold X to enter Mac cannon" so 343 had programers to notify, so it's most likely a planned thing.
The animation does have something to do with the object.
The object's tags has the animation listed. Obviously, they just took the reach coding for MAC turrets and added into 4, like what they did with a lot of things.
Subbed and I flew the pelican and phantom in halo reach which was really cool.
Because there would have most likely been a removed area around them where you run up to them and put a button to get in, just like in Reach, I think getting to the Macs are a glitch that's why I don't feel like they are an Easter egg.
exactly he wasn't ment to find it
they just reused the mechanics of the mac cannon from Reach
they probably were wondering if it would have been a good idea to include mac cannons, put them in the level to see if it would work, left it to the community to figure them out
That's some awesome tricking pal. You are pro.
Wow, this is what happens when you use reach's engine in H4, afaik that level is the Pillar of Autumn level and the MAC cannon couldnt be moved from the game so they had to leave that there as a placeholder. Pretty cool if thats what it is.
i hope this glitch never gets patched
Like the buddy here already explained, MAC (Mass Cannons) are for orbital defense, much more powerful than MAC (Magnetic Cannons). This is explained better in the Fall of Reach book (I believe First Strike as well).
The MAC Cannon was going to be used in the second half of the mission but was replaced by the Mantis. As you can see, 343 didn't cut out the entire thing and accidentally made the MAC Cannon still playable.
It says press x to enter the mac cannon on Infinity. You just have to find the right spot.
It's not an easter egg, 343 just didn't put enough effort into preventing players from getting into things. They probably just took the Mac Gun from Reach and changed it here and there. That would explain why the operator seat is in the same spot as Reach's even though this one has no seat. 343 did a lot of this (examples: original DMR and the Hunter LMG that uses Jorge's turret as a model still in the code. Not to mention gametype announcements that are from past Halo games)
I wonder if we can pilot this vehicle legit now that Halo 4 is on MCC PC and included a lot of campaign-only vehicles to forge.
Its a glitch. Just because there are controls does not mean its not a glitch. He glitched to get out and the inclusion of control just means that it was intended to be in the game but did not make it into the final product. Just like the fortress across the lake in Goldeneye
Awesome work. Unbelievable how you even thought to try for this stuff.
Looks like 343 just copied and pasted the cannons in from Reach.
ffs why dubstep? Are you 12 or something?
Dumb step is good...
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Mr Random i must say, that was pretty funny...
Mr Random how are my pic and my name bad?
+Flash Back it's not bad at all, i mean, that was really funny bro, I'd like to talk to you sometime, no homo... of course
It wasn't meant to be found. Seeing as they had an actual animation for when you hop in, it's obvious 343i copied most of the code from Reach to save on time, all that happens is an invisible NPC hops into them when you push the button to activate them. If they were meant to be found, they wouldn't be using placeholder HUD icons and the like.
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I wouldn't call it an Easter-egg, it's most likely a vehicle the devs intended to make you operate in one of the levels, but took it out later in development, and didn't erase the code from the game
Yes, the drivable Pelican and Phantom easter egg in Reach. Awesome!
You can always learn from looking through forums and tutorials on the web.
I dot think he can say yes, because if he did everyone else would always pester him about it.
I think it would be because if it wasnt- well, you'd never be able to enter the cannons. They would just be- there.
The fact that the developers went through all that trouble with coding that gun to be fully functional by a player (and wasn't taken out after launch) implies that they expected players to use it, regardless of how they manipulated the map to get to the MAC.