What is Christian Nationalism, and why you better know about it
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No bill the savior is Jesus Christ ,AMEN✝️🙏❤️🕊
Genuine Christians believe that justice is justice no matter who it is for or
against, that this concept forms the cornerstone of all human rights, and
that human rights are universal! And I say this as a Christian myself!!
Justice based off what idea or rule??? Based off what idea of righteousness ?
Do you want justice or grace? Careful how you answer that.
About branding….how would anyone know what my positions are if I do not tell them? Personally, I never get into conversations about these things. There would be no point.
May-be you should have started with the Doctrine of Discovery.
“A-L-L Nations before HIM are as ‘Nothing’,
And they are counted to HIM LESS THAN Nothing, and ‘Vanity’.”
(Isaiah 40:17)
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Amen
@shawnambrisco4598 I'm pretty sure the 'Big J' was referring to the 4 Nations and had no concept of the rest of world. Very limited travels!
Why are you so concerned with what others might call you? Most people don't even know the definition of the words they're using. Zionism isn't Judaism. I have no concerns over other people's opinions of me. I'm to change them and not the reverse.
First, as an observation, there are very little comments on this important topic.
Second, the host accepts Christian Nationalism has a negative cannotation but implies that it shouldnt, simply because one is a christian and love their country. That is true, but that is not what Christian Nationalism is.
Christian Nationalism seeks to infuse Christianity into the character of the nation despite the pluralistic society we live in.
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the exercise thereof..."
The founding fathers had a notion to keep the church and state separate but Christian Nationalism seeks to blurry the line.
Bill Maher did not seem to criticize christians who love their country. It seemed he was criticizing those that stormed the capital on Jan. 6th. at the behest of Trump, many he points out happen to be evangelical christians influenced by QAnon. The host conflates the two as if Maher is criticizing all christians. Christianity, like all religions, in general, are forces for good, but post Jan. 6th in 2021 and the Dobbs decision in 2023, and months away from the 2024 election which may decide the character of the nation, Christian Nationalism seems to be nibbling at ones doorstep and one wonders if this is in keeping with the Democracy the founding fathers intended.
I respect your opinion however......... You're forgetting one thing prior to recent decades most people in America went to church and were Christians your grandparents and great-grandparents if they lived here in America many of them were god-fearing Americans especially in the 40s and 50s and into the 60s before the hippie movement in the Communist came in and infiltrated the country, (of course there were people who were not Christians or maybe they were atheists back let's say 30 to 70 100 years ago but they were far and few between because he back then we knew that Jesus was the real person and that all the blessings that our nation have been given were from Jesus not from the government, is you and I took the time machine back just a few decades the average person on the street at least believes something true about Jesus they may not have necessarily been a devout Christian they may have even been a backslider but they understood what their parents their grandparents in the great-grandparents had understood and what the pilgrims understood,did God had blessed them with this nation and that only a moral biblical people could rule themselves and choose people in the country to represent us who had the same morals and values that we did (an older type of conservatism and Christianity) so your argument is somewhat invalid because from the founding of the nation until really the 1960s and 70s into a smaller extent than 1980s what's the average person went to church and there was huge amounts of people who were Bible believing devout Christians, and alternative religions and the LGBT stuff was a minority as it should be (not to be flippant because Jesus loves everybody and wants to change people's hearts to not be into the LGBT or an atheist god can only change your heart if you let him though,)
Atheists and Muslims and different people of different faiths that are in our country working and playing and doing everyday things and speaking up on what they believe about Christian nationalism they have the right to say it but it's invalid just like your argument is because the average person here in America is still somewhat of a Christian; and especially in our grandparents and great-grandparents time if you went in that time machine like I mentioned earlier with me you would find out that people would disagree with you more often than not because they knew even when feminism was on the rise and when homosexuality was on the rise in popular culture that this was a Christian Nation and that we can't take that away from a heritage and that if we took it away fully and we embraced progressivism or Marxism or atheism that our country in the morality (or lack thereof) will fall apart even faster than it already is, if we do not put Bible and prayer back into schools then there's no going back because God will not bless our nation if we do not do all we can to come back atheism and other such ideologies peacefully of course but still sometimes you have to have a harsh word or a loving word that still tells the truth.
@SCORPION89199 The United States is a country that allows all religions to practice their faith without preferring one over another. It is a christian nation in the sense that there are more christians in America than other religions, but it is not a christian nation in the same sense as a theocracy like Iran. Article VI of the constitution states no religious test is required to serve in government. The US was built this way from the founding of the nation.
There are problems in this country and some of it could be due to progressivism, marxism, atheism, feminism or lgbtq-ism, although it would have to be pointed out to be clear. But not anymore than some of the problems could be due to conservatism, particularly extreme conservatism, as is exhibited by Trumps's Maga.
The country is being tested for sure. It is being tested because those who see decline and fear God's punishment seek to reverse what others see as progress even at the cost of democracy.
The country needs civil discourse and tolerance and realise the US is a more diverse country now than what it was 250 years ago, and that is the truth.
There's so much wrong with what you said I don't know where to begin, but a couple of points. The founders came from a country who had a state religion, the church of England. Therefore they didn't want any one denomination to have sway over the others, hence the quote you made. But if you look at state constitutions, every one included the protestant religion as the standard, and many required that office holders were protestant. Of course our founding documents said little on this, because the states were to have more power than the federal government. Next, Christian Nationalism wasn't in our vernacular until about 4 or 5 years ago, when churches began to push back against CRT being introduced to them. It was another distraction by Marxist influencers. They always use modifiers. Justice becomes social justice. Christian becomes Christian nationalist. No one had ever heard of it, so it worked well. Separation of church and state is never mentioned in our founding documents. Only in a letter to a church from Jefferson, I believe, regarding their concerns over having a state religion. The rest of what you said defending Maher and talking about January 6 isn't worth a rebuttal. Christian Nationalism is a made up term intended to demonize Christians. Bottom line. Your comment is quite superficial considering the baggage all these Orwellian terms carry. You're either ignorant of the forces that are coming against this country and its institutions, or you're complicit. I'd recommend Voddie Baucham and Doug Wilson. If you want a deep dive on this movement's roots and methods, James Lindsey has volumes on it. He's volatile, but he's done his research.
@FlyinBlind Your rebuttals leave out crucial details. Yes, the founding fathers did not want any one religion to have sway over others, but they also did not want the federal government to make any "...law respecting the establishment of a religion..." as your inclusion of protestantism in early state constititions seem to imply. While some states (5 of the original 13) did include some kind of patronism to protestantism (usually as qualification to hold office) in early US history, no modern state constitution includes protestatism as a "standard", today in order to comply with the 1st amendment.
The intent may have been for states to have more power than the federal government in the beginning, but this led to political and economic issues. Again going further, to address these issues, 11 years later in 1787 they created a new US Constitution to establish a stronger federal government to better handle the collective needs of the people while preserving certain powers to the states.
Christian Nationalism was not brought into public discourse recently. It was introduced as early as the 70s in reaction to the civil rights movement as witnessed by the rise of the Moral Majority led by Jerry Falwell. It has recently gained more attention, but it has been with us for a while.
Thank you for introducing sources for more info into the movement.
Bottom line:
The rebuttals are disingenuous, leaving out details that easily counter it. Making opinions by leaving out other facts would seem to invalidate any conclusions drawn from them and seem more in line with the spirit of ignorance and so contribute to the issues we face today.
Straw manning. Great job.
Who is Straw manning?
@@wlonsdale1 No one. He just learned the term strawman from Jay Dyer or some other sleeper agent and just needs some praying for. God bless you all, weird stuff happening
As Evangelical Christians, why do we align ourselves with far-right beliefs (with are not aligned with Christ). Doing so does not portray Christ. 2 Corinthians 4:2
Like what?
@@wlonsdale1 Donald Trump, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Vivek Ramaswamy, and many of the non-Christian politicians Christians seem to flock to. Finding ourselves pushing for gun laws (I'm not against that, just not without first living our beliefs). Much more that will not fit neatly into this reply.
Why then is it OK to align with the far left? Luther's "falling off the other side of the donkey."
@@exvan3571Is that the only other option? I believe they are both wrong.
You named people, then said gun control, which you don't necessarily disagree with. First of all, what is far right? Is there a far left? Are you using the WWII European definition of left and right, with left being Stalin and right being Hitler? That last one, I find, is often true. Don't get me wrong, we have a uni party. I can name on one hand the representatives in our federal government who I respect. But the left promotes absolute evil and is proud of it. The right promotes family and national values but doesn't live up to or protect them. Is conservatism "far right"? Is anti abortion? Nuclear family? Border control? Respect for religion, particularly Christianity? Is it killing 6m Jews? What specifically makes someone this nebulous "far right"? Define your terms.