You can actually process the mic in real time live using any number of plugins designed specifically for that purpose. Waves is one of the industry standards not only for the studio but also for live sound. Tons of touring acts use their stuff. Might be cool to do a video on some of their products for your live streaming purposes. I recommend something like the Horizon bundle which is currently on sale.
Have you compared this USB mic against the Blue Yeti that's in your gear list? Generally I find that on voice calls I dig it if on the other side there's little echo and if the 2k-4k frequency range for speech intelligibility is pronounced. Often times that's not the case when people use internal laptop mics or there is a lot of noise around them. But even if they use a decent USB mic this still doesn't mean the coloring of the voice is particularly pretty. It's just that we don't care much in that situation. As far as the Tonor is concerned even on my MBP speakers it did sound a little thinner than the other mic. I guess you wouldn't argue that the 416 (is that what you're using?) captures the frequency spectrum much better than a cheap USB mic.
The MKH416 was used in the intro and outro, the tonor was compared against the deity s-mic 2 which is arguable a much better mic, though a very different mic. I don't think I've ever used a blue yeti, it's certainly not in my gear list. I've used the spark and the baby bottle from blue, which are both good but significantly more expensive than the tonor
I'm gunna be honest, I don't think the Tonor mic sounded better. It is going to give an implied "better quality" over VOIP because it has more high-end frequencies and thus comes out clearer when compressed through VOIP, but is has some super harsh sibilance and general tinniness. Where your focus on the shotguns kinda cuts off the high end and has some boomy-ness, thus picking up the reflections that way, instead of sounding like you're in a wood box, the Tonor makes you sound like you're in a tin box.
I agree with you - the more expensive mic sounds better when both placed properly (in an ideal environment to capture the voice while rejecting the maximum amount of reflections from the sides and back), and the tonor sounds better to guests unprocessed because of the higher frequencies and better placement. That's kind of the point though - educating people about how placement and proximity will get you further than money, and until you have that down, spending tons of cash won't help.
Tommy: I've been pulling out my hair trying to put together a good audio preset. I have a particular client I do a lot of work for but his voice isn't deep low register voice. Would your preset still work well or is there something I should tweak for your preset to sound good for his voice type?
If you give it a go, and it doesn't work out for you, just let me know and I'll shoot out a refund. Also, after everything's done, you can edit the "favorites" preset and add an additional 20 band EQ in audition to the process at the end to make some final adjustments if the audio needs a little kick in the right direction, but that requires learning bit more about how audition works and how to edit macros and favorites. If you send me an example audio file, I can make a preset that works for that range of voice as well. I might have to go forward with making a whole site with before/afters of different sounding voices.
Nice! I was just wondering if there a cheap USB mic would be good for a Zoom meeting. I'm using a Deity v-mic connected to a camera, but someone asked me what I would suggest for their setup. I did not want to tell them to use an external camera or pro mic setup.
The tonor mic definitely does NOT sound better. That mic had a frequency response of 100hz to 16KHz. Absolutely unacceptable for a more base oriented voice but that's not the worst part. That self noise floor is atrocious. You can hear it in the unprocessed audio quite audibly. It is loud! There are other mics for that same price that are so much better.
What would you suggest for the budget mic around $40? This video's intention was to help educate about placement and proximity, and how spending more money isn't always the answer - I'm sorry if I misrepresented that point.
@@TommyCallaway oh my, no need for an apology. It was a fantastic video. And the point came across great. I'm all for teaching people how to get quality on a budget. With a tight budget like that though I'd go for a Fifine K669b... Or go even cheaper and get the K668 for Just 30$. Both mics are miles better than the tc-777. Just to clarify again, this was a fantastic video. The microphone recommendation itself is where the issue arises.
Ok. For $40, that rocks. “I’m recording my screen with a camera like an idiot. Deal with it.” 😂😂😂
Gotta do what you gotta do, lol
Tommy Callaway why didn't you just use Quicktime?😂🤔
@@CNMTCFilms I tried. Explained in the video.
Tommy Callaway ups sorry, I must have missed it. Now I've found it. My bad
Awesome video as always Tommy! It's always appreciate when a creator shares their process. Cheers man!
Thanks Bryci and JD! :)
Thanks for the suggestions.
No prob. 👍
You can actually process the mic in real time live using any number of plugins designed specifically for that purpose. Waves is one of the industry standards not only for the studio but also for live sound. Tons of touring acts use their stuff. Might be cool to do a video on some of their products for your live streaming purposes. I recommend something like the Horizon bundle which is currently on sale.
Have you compared this USB mic against the Blue Yeti that's in your gear list? Generally I find that on voice calls I dig it if on the other side there's little echo and if the 2k-4k frequency range for speech intelligibility is pronounced. Often times that's not the case when people use internal laptop mics or there is a lot of noise around them. But even if they use a decent USB mic this still doesn't mean the coloring of the voice is particularly pretty. It's just that we don't care much in that situation.
As far as the Tonor is concerned even on my MBP speakers it did sound a little thinner than the other mic. I guess you wouldn't argue that the 416 (is that what you're using?) captures the frequency spectrum much better than a cheap USB mic.
The MKH416 was used in the intro and outro, the tonor was compared against the deity s-mic 2 which is arguable a much better mic, though a very different mic. I don't think I've ever used a blue yeti, it's certainly not in my gear list. I've used the spark and the baby bottle from blue, which are both good but significantly more expensive than the tonor
I'm gunna be honest, I don't think the Tonor mic sounded better. It is going to give an implied "better quality" over VOIP because it has more high-end frequencies and thus comes out clearer when compressed through VOIP, but is has some super harsh sibilance and general tinniness. Where your focus on the shotguns kinda cuts off the high end and has some boomy-ness, thus picking up the reflections that way, instead of sounding like you're in a wood box, the Tonor makes you sound like you're in a tin box.
I agree with you - the more expensive mic sounds better when both placed properly (in an ideal environment to capture the voice while rejecting the maximum amount of reflections from the sides and back), and the tonor sounds better to guests unprocessed because of the higher frequencies and better placement. That's kind of the point though - educating people about how placement and proximity will get you further than money, and until you have that down, spending tons of cash won't help.
Well it's only $40 so u cant expect top notch quality. But it's pretty decent for the price it is
Tommy: I've been pulling out my hair trying to put together a good audio preset. I have a particular client I do a lot of work for but his voice isn't deep low register voice. Would your preset still work well or is there something I should tweak for your preset to sound good for his voice type?
If you give it a go, and it doesn't work out for you, just let me know and I'll shoot out a refund. Also, after everything's done, you can edit the "favorites" preset and add an additional 20 band EQ in audition to the process at the end to make some final adjustments if the audio needs a little kick in the right direction, but that requires learning bit more about how audition works and how to edit macros and favorites. If you send me an example audio file, I can make a preset that works for that range of voice as well. I might have to go forward with making a whole site with before/afters of different sounding voices.
@@TommyCallaway You sold me! Buying it now!
“Tommy Process” is a great name for an alternative hip hop artist. Just something to keep in mind in case this whole video thing doesn’t work out 😉
Can you make this preset for Final Cut Pro? I would be your first customer. Thanks mate.
Nice! I was just wondering if there a cheap USB mic would be good for a Zoom meeting. I'm using a Deity v-mic connected to a camera, but someone asked me what I would suggest for their setup. I did not want to tell them to use an external camera or pro mic setup.
Quite helpful :) I actually may give it a go for my voice overs
Also you totally CAN run your mic through audition then out to streaming software/calls, but it's a worse way to go than just using VSTs
Now i'm curious. Thanks. Wasting the next few hours... lol
by the way, would you pls explain what do you mean when talking about DD HD TX?
Diety HD-TX is a wireless XLR mic recorder/transmitter
@@TommyCallaway TKS!
Hey Tommy， why there are two shotgun mics?
I used several mics in this video. One was used in intro/outro, other (less expensive mic) was used during comparisons to the tonor mic
The tonor mic definitely does NOT sound better. That mic had a frequency response of 100hz to 16KHz. Absolutely unacceptable for a more base oriented voice but that's not the worst part. That self noise floor is atrocious. You can hear it in the unprocessed audio quite audibly. It is loud! There are other mics for that same price that are so much better.
What would you suggest for the budget mic around $40? This video's intention was to help educate about placement and proximity, and how spending more money isn't always the answer - I'm sorry if I misrepresented that point.
@@TommyCallaway oh my, no need for an apology. It was a fantastic video. And the point came across great. I'm all for teaching people how to get quality on a budget. With a tight budget like that though I'd go for a Fifine K669b... Or go even cheaper and get the K668 for Just 30$. Both mics are miles better than the tc-777.
Just to clarify again, this was a fantastic video. The microphone recommendation itself is where the issue arises.
@@KaganTech Thanks man! I appreciate the recommendations.
Wrong. Below 100 Hz is not for bass, 100hz and 300hz are best for bass.
@@unitedalliance2978- What? You just contradicted yourself…