I bought it a few days ago, a gift for myself, for my birthday on January 3rd. While I was watching your video, your voice became particularly familiar to me, then the face of King Joffrey from King's Landing came to me.
Comparing this to Moonswatch seems like an insult imho. Case of stainless steel, sapphire glass, Seiko quartz chronograph movement and it does not tick like an alarm. Better, more affordable and available.
This is a great watch for the price. Far better than the plastic, non maintainable, overpriced moonswatch. I love mine always looks sharp on the wrist. Didn't they give you a NATO strap?
I don't agree that the hands are big. I think Pagani did a great job regarding the hands size in this watch, even better than the original Omega's when it comes to proportion and legibility. The watch is very good for the price, but it's definitely not for small wrists.
On Amazon in the questions section of this watch, they indicate that it is available without a date window. They have a difficult (for me) to use link for this model. I can find no option for this anywhere. What can you tell me?
Hi there. The watch is available in different colourways. The black ones I believe all have date function. Other colours seem to have the option without. Looking at Amazon prices they are very steep so shop around :)
Good review! I've finally placed an order for one and can't wait to see it in person as I am a big fan of ceramic bezels. This will also be my first chronograph. I am curious and cannot find an explanation online as to what "1701" signifies, could you please explain? Thanks!
What's your wrist size? I heard the bracelet cannot be sized up to smaller wrists as not enough links can be removed - is that true? I got a 6 and a half inch wrist.
@@johnswatchjoint I see some stores are also offering it with a sail cloth strap now (black with white stitching), will probably get that one then. Thanks for the quick reply and best of luck with the channel!
It is as you say a chunky boy, but that's only cause the Speedy itself is, it's exactly the same size as an Omega Speedmaster, it could be loads thinner, that mech in tiny.
Yeah, gotta say, the cons seem to outweigh the positive on this one. I do however would prefer a badly implemented date window to no date window at all. It's one complication i'd rather not do without as it's very useful and convenient to have and I'm so used to having it, it's always startling to not find it there whenever I put my weekender on.
I love a date window also but on this one I found the face just over-cluttered...but that is only my opinion. Thank you so much for your comment and keep watching :)
@@johnswatchjoint I mean, I get it, but at least it's colour-matched. 😄 But in all seriousness, putting a date on a homage of a watch that didn't have it feels like it's just feature packing to make a homage seem like a more appealing product, then a conscious design decision. 🤔 That said, I find all chronos over-cluttered and hard to read (for me at least) and I guess I just don't like this type of watch. I have a Seiko chrono and I've never used it for it's "intended" purpose. I find a timing bezel to be absolutely enough in most cases and in cases where more precision needed i'd rather use a chrono function on a digital Casio or on my trusty old Timex T45181, which coincidently has both options. 😄
@@mr_bisley Chronographs are not usually on my radar either but I did wear one for nearly six years in the late eighties on...an Accurist with white dial, three blue subdials and gold highlights....and I wasn't even taking drugs haha! Watch collecting makes us do strange things :)
BE AWARE OF VARIATIONS IN 1701 V3 LINE! Pagani Design have change bezel and removed dots around 12 o'clock to make it less of a carbon copy. You are lucky to have the BEST 1701 V3 with accurate bezel and dots😊
I am not an actor. So let me get this straight. You walk into a shop and ask the assistant for a watch you can buy for £70 that has a bracelet you cannot use or resize when next to it you can buy a g shock, a Casio Edifice a Timex , a Lorus, a Pulsar that all function perfectly. You are missing the point. When you buy a homage of an iconic watch you want to have it on the iconic bracelet, not have it stuck in a drawer. I buy hundreds of watches, and time and again Pagani produce a brilliant watch followed by three that are just pants. They continue to do this when all others move on.
I personally would not be comfortable taking PD 1701 watch off my wrist for show and tell. I have no problem wearing MoonSwatch with Omega and Speedmaster brandings. If you want Moonwatch that is better than MoonSwatch than look at Bulova Lunar Pilot (2nd watch on the moon)
I have two iterations of this watch, both are V3 (at least). One is the AK Project homage and the other PD-1701A rose gold panda. Neither of mine feature a date window. I vehemently disagree with your assessment of the bracelet. This is - BY FAR - the best PD bracelet ever produced. All of the company's bracelets have felt cheap and jangly, like a 20EUR replica purchased on the beaches of Marbella. I currently own five Pagani Design watches and have held others.This five link bracelet is a thing of craftsmanship and beauty. Again, I have two examples and both of them are great. I would say that the edges of my AKP version are more severe than the rose gold, but even then, it wears like a dream on wrist. I wear these very infrequently. Consequently, if there were any discomfort, I would know straight away. To complain about the thickness of a PD bracelet is rich, considering they are famous for cheap bracelets, smh. I am also pleased with the substance of the watch: bracelet, clasp and case. The wearing experience removes any idea that you are wearing a cheap replica or homage. The PD clasp is glorious when compared to other AE brands. Could they lose the diver's extension? Definitely. I searched both that I have for the crude finishing or fitment that you highlighted. I was unsuccessful to discover any complaint. I do see a bit of a difference in the end link and the lugs of the AKP, but it is minor for a man that is anally retentive, such as I am. You moaned about the case thickness too, which I thought was a reach. You do realise that the Omega is 13.18mm versus the PD-1701 is 13.8, right? It is a chronograph! .62 mm - really? I was disappointed to hear this review from you, because my recollection is that you tend to review what you like and resultantly, we hear the same positive impressions. To me, it seemed like the brand upsets you in some way and it was reflected in this review. Alternatively, you were sent a piece of shit - now why would they do that? Because frankly, you were reaching to find something wrong and every niggle was insignificant. This doesn't change my opinion of your content, I'm just disappointed that you were disappointed, because Pagani Design have produced the finest homage to the Speedmaster, for the price, that exists.
Thanks for your opinion which is welcome and reflects your experiences. They do not mirror mine. I no longer review PD watches as I can no longer heartily recommend them. Out of the few issues I have had on AliExpress, PD are the brand that consistently fall way short, with watches broken on arrival, poor QC and mainly broken bracelet mechanisms. Of course these are my experiences and it would be awful if I recommended their watches just because they have sent a free one regardless of quality. I cannot account for your feelings as you obviously disagree. That's OK but your experience is not my experience and I will always be honest in my assessment. My reputation rests on that. If you want to insult me then that is your choice but I will simply hand your worded gift back so you can use it on someone else. Best regards
@@johnswatchjoint No insults from me, John. As I said, I am just disappointed that you are. I don't consider my luck to be any better than anyone else's. Of the five PDs that I own, only one disappointed me, but not because of the quality or workmanship, but due to the version change that swapped one crystal type for another - without informing its buyers. I guess I have been lucky, given your experience and that of others. After watching your vid, I went down a rabbit hole of recommended vids that featured problems other reviewers have had with their PDs. Oh well, we can have a laugh about all of this, because one day these watch brands will have sorted their QC issues and ours will be esteemed examples of the brands' salad days, when they cut corners and made mistakes. It is likely that holding on to these watches will reward us with ROI.
I am glad that this discussion did not disintegrate into a full blown argument as is so often the case. I started this as a hobby 15 months ago but because of my enthusiasm for watches it has now started to be more than that. I value people's opinions absolutely but there are so many closed off people out there who are not capable of reasoning. Since the beginning of the year I have been on the radar for more brands who offer me watches. Not all are accepted and not all that send me a watch get a good review. I have to be honest. Even If I have my favourites due to handling many of their watches, they still don't get off the hook. San Martin just won't send me a watch simply because I call them out for the raft of QC issues of late. Baltany were the darlings last year but I still give them a hard time as this year they haven't quite held on to the quality of before. I am honest and consistent and sometimes people see their watch being given a bad review as an insult. It is not. I am really happy if they get a good one. Of course I am...but I can only review what I have at my fingertips. I hope you continue watching. All the best. John :)
At last...someone who agrees. Had a lot of bile on this review which have had to delete. I always try to remain fair and honest but this particular watch, especially the bracelet, was well below par. If Tandorio and Baltany can produce high quality for budget money, why can't Pagani? Giving them another chance with 2 more designs coming in to see if this was an abhorrence! Thanks for the comment.
I have the same watch. I immediately took the nasty stainless steel bracelet off ( too sharp on edges ughhh ) and put on a bland black& blue seat belt style nato. Much better! Goes well with the blue AR Sapphire crystal. Hasn’t missed a beat after I set the time. Like it !
Sir, I'm going to send you £80 ..)OK..£20(?) ) as you've saved me that for dissuading me about this watch ( I have the same size wrist). I'll stick with my dan henry evil niña & a shiny blue Seiko chronograph that Oleg ( 24 hours at a time) dazzled me with. Cheers.
Erm did I say it was better than the moon's watch? Everyone else said it was...I disagreed. Watch it again and pay attention this time. I shall give you 100 lines. Please pay attention in class!
Hi Mr shopkeeper. I have £100 to spend on a watch with the worst bracelet in the world. Mr shopkeeper smiles to himself....I have just the thing for you.....
The extra nato strap you got wasn't great looking unlike the previous 2 stripes gray I got from the version 2 I had the watch dipped swimming for almost a year
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Just ordered one during the AliExpress anniversary sale. With discounts, it was less than $70 USD. Can't wait to get it in the post!
I bought it a few days ago, a gift for myself, for my birthday on January 3rd.
While I was watching your video, your voice became particularly familiar to me, then the face of King Joffrey from King's Landing came to me.
Comparing this to Moonswatch seems like an insult imho.
Case of stainless steel, sapphire glass, Seiko quartz chronograph movement and it does not tick like an alarm. Better, more affordable and available.
This is a great watch for the price. Far better than the plastic, non maintainable, overpriced moonswatch. I love mine always looks sharp on the wrist.
Didn't they give you a NATO strap?
Yep...as shown at the beginning of the video. It too was a monstrosity haha. Seems I keep getting Pagani Lemons!
Excellent honest review much appreciated 🍻 cheers
I don't agree that the hands are big. I think Pagani did a great job regarding the hands size in this watch, even better than the original Omega's when it comes to proportion and legibility. The watch is very good for the price, but it's definitely not for small wrists.
Thanks for voicing your opinion. They all count :)
That particular Bond NATO strap is a copy of the one Sean Connery wore in Goldfinger.
On Amazon in the questions section of this watch, they indicate that it is available without a date window. They have a difficult (for me) to use link for this model. I can find no option for this anywhere. What can you tell me?
Hi there. The watch is available in different colourways. The black ones I believe all have date function. Other colours seem to have the option without. Looking at Amazon prices they are very steep so shop around :)
Appreciate your honest review. Sharp edges are a big problem with these homages and even with watches from the major brands too nowadays.
Thanks for watching and your comment...remember to subscribe! ;)
Mine doesn't have a date window.
You mate chill for a under 100 pound whatch nothing beats this wathch
As long as YOU think that then it's up to you but I can think of quite a few :)
Even cheaper now. Bought it for 55 euros during the Ali express sale.
@@johnswatchjoint I'd like to hear it.
Good review! I've finally placed an order for one and can't wait to see it in person as I am a big fan of ceramic bezels. This will also be my first chronograph. I am curious and cannot find an explanation online as to what "1701" signifies, could you please explain? Thanks!
Hi there....I believe it is in reference to the Starship Enterprise. The number on the top of the helm of the ship ;)
@@johnswatchjoint That's neat! Thanks for sharing.
@@johnswatchjoint Ha ha, subliminal marketing aimed at Trekkies!
I own a PD 1701 and my favorite feature is the long minute hand reaching to the edge of the dial.
I have just got their V6 of this watch in for review. It's thankfully a lot better!
Great watch for $80. Really pays tribute to a Speedy. The Seiko movement is really good. I lose about one second over 17 days.
What's your wrist size? I heard the bracelet cannot be sized up to smaller wrists as not enough links can be removed - is that true? I got a 6 and a half inch wrist.
Ah, you answered it later in the video...haha! Thanks!
@@mayorofrlyeh8042 at 6.5inch you should be ok but the bracelet is pretty awful anyway :)
@@johnswatchjoint I see some stores are also offering it with a sail cloth strap now (black with white stitching), will probably get that one then. Thanks for the quick reply and best of luck with the channel!
How much does the watch weigh?
I no longer have it. It's one of my early videos.
Bracelet is not too thick, just should be a little better finish and tighter tolerances between links.😊
What you said AND it's too thick ;). The newer versions are better.
It is as you say a chunky boy, but that's only cause the Speedy itself is, it's exactly the same size as an Omega Speedmaster, it could be loads thinner, that mech in tiny.
I’d be more than happy to pay double or triple for them to work our a few more of the kinks
Yeah, gotta say, the cons seem to outweigh the positive on this one.
I do however would prefer a badly implemented date window to no date window at all. It's one complication i'd rather not do without as it's very useful and convenient to have and I'm so used to having it, it's always startling to not find it there whenever I put my weekender on.
I love a date window also but on this one I found the face just over-cluttered...but that is only my opinion. Thank you so much for your comment and keep watching :)
@@johnswatchjoint I mean, I get it, but at least it's colour-matched. 😄 But in all seriousness, putting a date on a homage of a watch that didn't have it feels like it's just feature packing to make a homage seem like a more appealing product, then a conscious design decision. 🤔
That said, I find all chronos over-cluttered and hard to read (for me at least) and I guess I just don't like this type of watch. I have a Seiko chrono and I've never used it for it's "intended" purpose. I find a timing bezel to be absolutely enough in most cases and in cases where more precision needed i'd rather use a chrono function on a digital Casio or on my trusty old Timex T45181, which coincidently has both options. 😄
@@mr_bisley Chronographs are not usually on my radar either but I did wear one for nearly six years in the late eighties on...an Accurist with white dial, three blue subdials and gold highlights....and I wasn't even taking drugs haha! Watch collecting makes us do strange things :)
@@johnswatchjoint well, I can actually imagine it working out pretty nicely, lol.
BE AWARE OF VARIATIONS IN 1701 V3 LINE! Pagani Design have change bezel and removed dots around 12 o'clock to make it less of a carbon copy. You are lucky to have the BEST 1701 V3 with accurate bezel and dots😊
You are not being fair in your review, you are acting like you paid $5000 for this watch.
I am not an actor. So let me get this straight. You walk into a shop and ask the assistant for a watch you can buy for £70 that has a bracelet you cannot use or resize when next to it you can buy a g shock, a Casio Edifice a Timex , a Lorus, a Pulsar that all function perfectly. You are missing the point. When you buy a homage of an iconic watch you want to have it on the iconic bracelet, not have it stuck in a drawer. I buy hundreds of watches, and time and again Pagani produce a brilliant watch followed by three that are just pants. They continue to do this when all others move on.
Wish PD made a reduced 38mm version of this, my guess it would be a huge hit
I agree with you. It wears a bit like a dinner plate!
Good review. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
I personally would not be comfortable taking PD 1701 watch off my wrist for show and tell. I have no problem wearing MoonSwatch with Omega and Speedmaster brandings. If you want Moonwatch that is better than MoonSwatch than look at Bulova Lunar Pilot (2nd watch on the moon)
Oh dear. There are many who would disagree. The MoonSwatch debacle has left many miffed as they are VERY poor.
I have two iterations of this watch, both are V3 (at least). One is the AK Project homage and the other PD-1701A rose gold panda. Neither of mine feature a date window. I vehemently disagree with your assessment of the bracelet. This is - BY FAR - the best PD bracelet ever produced. All of the company's bracelets have felt cheap and jangly, like a 20EUR replica purchased on the beaches of Marbella. I currently own five Pagani Design watches and have held others.This five link bracelet is a thing of craftsmanship and beauty. Again, I have two examples and both of them are great. I would say that the edges of my AKP version are more severe than the rose gold, but even then, it wears like a dream on wrist. I wear these very infrequently. Consequently, if there were any discomfort, I would know straight away. To complain about the thickness of a PD bracelet is rich, considering they are famous for cheap bracelets, smh.
I am also pleased with the substance of the watch: bracelet, clasp and case. The wearing experience removes any idea that you are wearing a cheap replica or homage. The PD clasp is glorious when compared to other AE brands. Could they lose the diver's extension? Definitely.
I searched both that I have for the crude finishing or fitment that you highlighted. I was unsuccessful to discover any complaint. I do see a bit of a difference in the end link and the lugs of the AKP, but it is minor for a man that is anally retentive, such as I am. You moaned about the case thickness too, which I thought was a reach. You do realise that the Omega is 13.18mm versus the PD-1701 is 13.8, right? It is a chronograph! .62 mm - really?
I was disappointed to hear this review from you, because my recollection is that you tend to review what you like and resultantly, we hear the same positive impressions. To me, it seemed like the brand upsets you in some way and it was reflected in this review. Alternatively, you were sent a piece of shit - now why would they do that? Because frankly, you were reaching to find something wrong and every niggle was insignificant. This doesn't change my opinion of your content, I'm just disappointed that you were disappointed, because Pagani Design have produced the finest homage to the Speedmaster, for the price, that exists.
Thanks for your opinion which is welcome and reflects your experiences. They do not mirror mine. I no longer review PD watches as I can no longer heartily recommend them. Out of the few issues I have had on AliExpress, PD are the brand that consistently fall way short, with watches broken on arrival, poor QC and mainly broken bracelet mechanisms. Of course these are my experiences and it would be awful if I recommended their watches just because they have sent a free one regardless of quality. I cannot account for your feelings as you obviously disagree. That's OK but your experience is not my experience and I will always be honest in my assessment. My reputation rests on that. If you want to insult me then that is your choice but I will simply hand your worded gift back so you can use it on someone else. Best regards
@@johnswatchjoint No insults from me, John. As I said, I am just disappointed that you are. I don't consider my luck to be any better than anyone else's. Of the five PDs that I own, only one disappointed me, but not because of the quality or workmanship, but due to the version change that swapped one crystal type for another - without informing its buyers. I guess I have been lucky, given your experience and that of others. After watching your vid, I went down a rabbit hole of recommended vids that featured problems other reviewers have had with their PDs.
Oh well, we can have a laugh about all of this, because one day these watch brands will have sorted their QC issues and ours will be esteemed examples of the brands' salad days, when they cut corners and made mistakes. It is likely that holding on to these watches will reward us with ROI.
I am glad that this discussion did not disintegrate into a full blown argument as is so often the case. I started this as a hobby 15 months ago but because of my enthusiasm for watches it has now started to be more than that. I value people's opinions absolutely but there are so many closed off people out there who are not capable of reasoning. Since the beginning of the year I have been on the radar for more brands who offer me watches. Not all are accepted and not all that send me a watch get a good review. I have to be honest. Even If I have my favourites due to handling many of their watches, they still don't get off the hook. San Martin just won't send me a watch simply because I call them out for the raft of QC issues of late. Baltany were the darlings last year but I still give them a hard time as this year they haven't quite held on to the quality of before. I am honest and consistent and sometimes people see their watch being given a bad review as an insult. It is not. I am really happy if they get a good one. Of course I am...but I can only review what I have at my fingertips. I hope you continue watching. All the best. John :)
You are reviewing it as if this watch was over $2000 🤣
Nope...just as a poor watch that I would not buy in a shop given its flaws
@@johnswatchjoint it is better than the swatch moonswatch that costs 3x more.
The bracelet sucks on this Pagani, I've owned 2.. Go for the newest sailcloth versions or change it out to anything else of your own choosing
At last...someone who agrees. Had a lot of bile on this review which have had to delete. I always try to remain fair and honest but this particular watch, especially the bracelet, was well below par. If Tandorio and Baltany can produce high quality for budget money, why can't Pagani? Giving them another chance with 2 more designs coming in to see if this was an abhorrence! Thanks for the comment.
Value for money? Great! Chunky 🤣😂 I think it’s a great sized watch and love the bezel especially for the price, I’m Scot’s and boy you can moan!
Merry Christmas to you too!
@@johnswatchjoint 😂🤣👍🎁🎊
I have the same watch. I immediately took the nasty stainless steel bracelet off ( too sharp on edges ughhh ) and put on a bland black& blue seat belt style nato. Much better! Goes well with the blue AR Sapphire crystal. Hasn’t missed a beat after I set the time. Like it !
The head is done well...good call binning that carbuncle of a bracelet! ;)
Honest but very picky review.
Can't be both....🤗
Sharp edges belong on knives and shavers. Deal-breaker for me.
I looked back at that video to see if I was too harsh ..but honestly I wasn't :( Thanks for watching.
Sir, I'm going to send you £80 ..)OK..£20(?) ) as you've saved me that for dissuading me about this watch ( I have the same size wrist).
I'll stick with my dan henry evil niña & a shiny blue Seiko chronograph that Oleg ( 24 hours at a time) dazzled me with.
Cheers.
The Evil Panda is a perfect size. Had mine for a year and loved it. Thanks for watching :)
I have never been able to understand what people look for in a Nato strap - dude says that one is 'bletch' but they are all levels of gaudiness
Ah OK.... We shall all change our opinion to yours shall we?
This is not better than a original moonwatch. Your review started with the poor quality and bad finishing- come on now 😂
Erm did I say it was better than the moon's watch? Everyone else said it was...I disagreed. Watch it again and pay attention this time. I shall give you 100 lines. Please pay attention in class!
where did he say it was better? pay attention John!
Haha 😆
Bla bla bla. By an Omega. This is a 80 Euro Watch, what you expected?
I review watches for ALL watch enthusiasts...not just those who turn their noses up at these pieces.
Wtf is going on? It's a watch that is less than a hundred pounds 🤯🤯
Hi Mr shopkeeper. I have £100 to spend on a watch with the worst bracelet in the world. Mr shopkeeper smiles to himself....I have just the thing for you.....
Actually, I think it's a great watch and fits me well.
At least u got an extra strap! I did not lol
Yeah but did you see it?...yuck haha:)
The extra nato strap you got wasn't great looking unlike the previous 2 stripes gray I got from the
version 2 I had the watch dipped swimming for almost a year
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